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| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by MuttleyLaff: 9:15am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:Which okcornel's post? Reproduce it here |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:15am On Mar 04, 2018 |
off to church |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by BlackManta(m): 9:16am On Mar 04, 2018 |
danvon:based on Darwin's claim. This is what Darwin himself wrote in one of his letters. In what is perhaps his most revealing response, a letter in 1879 to John Fordyce, an author of works on scepticism, Darwin writes: "[My] judgment often fluctuates…. Whether a man deserves to be called a theist depends on the definition of the term … In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. — I think that generally (and more and more so as I grow older), but not always, — that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind." Darwin is agnostic not an atheist. Here is what he wrote in one of his letters. He clearly expressed agnoticism. In a letter to a correspondent at the University of Utrecht in 1873, Darwin expressed agnosticism: "I may say that the impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for the existence of God; but whether this is an argument of real value, I have never been able to decide. I am aware that if we admit a first cause, the mind still craves to know whence it came from and how it arose. Nor can I overlook the difficulty from the immense amount of suffering through the world. I am, also, induced to defer to a certain extent to the judgment of many able men who have fully believed in God; but here again I see how poor an argument this is. The safest conclusion seems to me to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of man's intellect; but man can do his duty" |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 9:16am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:And he showed you Acts 15 and I explained to you that Jesus shifted the foundation and gave you several references with explanations yet you do not understand what OkCornel was trying to say despite all I said in detail? I even told you that the law is the shadow while Christ is the reality. I told you the law brought sin while Christ brought righteousness of God I told you the law brought death while Christ brought life etc Yet you still could not understand anything? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by MuttleyLaff: 9:17am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:Is this it? If it is, then dont change career for comedy because it is a poor joke |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by MuttleyLaff: 9:17am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:So? Make we shout Hallelujah or go fry beans? |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:19am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:muttleylaff |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:20am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:muttleylaff |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:21am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:muttleylaff |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:23am On Mar 04, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:then you made me realize that my previously held view about homosexuality was wrong. you made me realize that Christians are not bound by the law of Moses. |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 9:26am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:https://i.imgur.com/KR93TA2.gif |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:27am On Mar 04, 2018 |
muttleylaff you see, he did not even address the issue. he used the fact that they were practicing Judaism not Christianity as an excuse. even when it was the same God. that was what brought me to my inference. everything that happened in Judaism is irrelevant and inconsequential to Christians. according to okcornel |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 9:29am On Mar 04, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:your image did not load. I can't see it. |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by MuttleyLaff: 9:56am On Mar 04, 2018*. Modified: 10:38am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:I earlier yesterday, noticed the whole thing started with wirinet's weak logic but you didnt know before jumping into the rabbit hole, that the argument wirinet was putting forward was not only weak but was inaccurate too Now, after going through past posts, it is as clear as day, you didn't understand what OkCornel was trying to say and despite all butterflyl1on tirelesly said in detail, you still werent any the wiser OkCornel, even asked you, to try and show him where in the Bible Christians were commanded to kill their enemies... You didnt respond to the question nor did you give sh!t, maybe its because you're constipated. 1 Like |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Nobody: 10:24am On Mar 04, 2018 |
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people. And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the LORD of Midian. Numbers 31:1-3 "And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males." Numbers:31:7 "And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword." Numbers:31:8 "And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods." Numbers:31:9 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?" Numbers:31:15 "Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD." Numbers:31:16 This is the offence no assault or anything "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him." Numbers:31:17 "But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers:31:18 All this killing just because they tried to convert them Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelt in the land of Midian : and he sat down by a well. Exodus:2:15 The same Midianites helped Moses " And Moses was content to dwell with the man: and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter." Exodus:2:21 Moses wife was from Midian ---------My god is a good is a god yes he is------- |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:02am On Mar 04, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:the question was not whether it was Christians or Jews. it was the God who commanded the act. is it not the same God Christians and Jews serve? is it not YHWH that gave the Jews instructions in the old testament? do you not agree or are you not in support of his action in the old testament? are you against the way he ran things in the old testament, can you speak against it? since it was not Christians but Jews. wirinet was wrong in stating it was the Christians that God was instructing in the old testament. but my own issue is not whether it was Jews or Christians. my own issue is that it was God |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:18am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:The answer to your question is in Acts 15...read it for understanding again... |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:20am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:I've read it. it says mosaic law does not apply to Christians. am I right or wrong? |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:24am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:Is this your understanding of what I've been saying all the while? That EVERY ACTION (not even instruction) of God in the Old testament is irrelevant? When did Law (Instruction) and Action mean one and the same thing? 1 Like |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by ScienceWatch: 11:25am On Mar 04, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:Lol, You again chose the right actor to express your true feelings about THIS madness. I am rolling on the floor with laughter. 2 Likes |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:27am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:what did you mean when you said it wasn't Christians that God commanded but Jews. |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:30am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:I thought giving an instruction was an action.  OK the instructions God gave Israelites are irrelevant to Christians... |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:35am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:The answer to your questions are in Acts 15... |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:36am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:One basic example... When God gave instructions to kill those who worshipped the golden calf...was God instructing the Christians or the Israelites? |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:39am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:he gave it to the Israelites. |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:40am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:I've read it. it says mosaic law does not apply to Christians. am I right or wrong? |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:42am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:Yup... the Mosaic Laws do not apply to Christians... Before the Mosaic Laws came into existence, man knew what was good and evil... The Mosaic Laws however instructed the Jews on how to go about doing good and shunning evil... Jesus not only fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law...He gave His followers a new covenant to work with... The Old covenant fulfilled by Jesus is not binding on Christians... Don't make the mistake of using the Mosaic Laws as the only standard that was in place to identify good and evil... Good and evil has been there before, during and after the Mosaic Law... In summary, stay away from evil and do good... |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:45am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:Hence, it does not apply to Christians... Unless you are saying Christians were also commanded to kill their enemies... |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:45am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:follow up question. what might be good to you may be bad to me. is homosexuality evil? there are people who believe it isn't bad. if it is, how do you know? |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 11:49am On Mar 04, 2018 |
Gggg102:The people of Sodom and Gomorrah have the answers to this question...and they didn't need to know the Mosaic Laws to know what they were doing is evil... Homosexuality and "Sodom"y |
| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:50am On Mar 04, 2018 |
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| Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Gggg102(m): 11:50am On Mar 04, 2018 |
OkCornel:I know the command was not given to Christians. that was wirinet's opinion. my issue is with the God who gave that instruction. how do you justify the killings of indigenous residents of the land by the Israelites who where strangers and had not been offended by the indigenous? |
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