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| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:33pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Really? Then why did Paul the Apostle Preach to Ceasars household? I hope you have 1tim1 in ur Bible 1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. note 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. Meanwhile, i noticed how you have avoided all the questions i asked up there.. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:36pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
danvon:Well i'll answer from the perspective of my Master Lord and King (Jesus Christ). There's nothing wrong in protecting myself and my family by making sure i'm living as simple as possible not a "materialistic or notice me lifestyle"! So that i won't have to be worried about defending the things that the nations are eagerly pursuing. These are what they're trying to accumulate and protect that's leading them to killing whoever is coming to steal from them. Now if i should kill an unbeliever and i'm sure i've jeopardized his chances of repentance just because of worldly possessions, of what benefit is my Faith? So according to Jesus it's better to be killed as a Christian than to kill! Because a Christian is saved but the murderer must repent to be saved. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by danvon(m): 8:38pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:So if there's an armed robber in your house you have a gun in your hand....you won't use it? |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:49pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
salvation101:That's why i said wisdom and understanding is needed to fully grasp God's word.Our God is not interested in this world's politics since HIS government under His prince Jesus will soon wipe off all these governments.Daniel 2:44 But Satan was beaten in his own game,he wanted to disorganise orderliness gradually by making people to detest virtue, yet he still wants to keep them under his control,he lost by promoting America who worship money and promiscuity but forgot that with his system of freedom of expression God's people will be freed to start preaching and teaching freely again. Please God only used America to free HIS people but it's still the devil that's controlling them! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:58pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
danvon:Armed rubbers go out for material things so with lesser material things they won't notice me because they go on operations through info,they're business men as well so they don't just go to people's homes without a certain target. So you can see that as a true Christian i'm protected since they don't value my cherished treasures which of course are not stored on this planet! Matthew 6:19/20 That's why i'll never need a gun! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:and you think your organization alone has d wisdom? But i just pointed out some facts which you av skillfully avoided. Facts like the name Jehovah never existed until the 19th century. The name was derived by the same people u accuse as being controlled by the devil. Our God is not interested in this world's politics since HIS government under His prince Jesus will soon wipe off all these governments.Daniel 2:44 But Satan was beaten in his own game,he wanted to disorganise orderliness gradually by making people to detest virtue, yet he still wants to keep them under his control,he lost by promoting America who worship money and promiscuity but forgot that with his system of freedom of expression God's people will be freed to start preaching and teaching freely again. Please God only used America to free HIS people but it's still the devil that's controlling them!you seem to be an expert at reading the devils mind |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Maamin(m): 9:12pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Nice Thread so far. I'm Not a JW but I think they are more grounded in scriptural knowledge than those who oppose them . I might not also agree with all their teaching either Some people just hate them for no specific reason. But if you look at all the seven churches in Revelation none really got it 100% right either. So don't sweat it guys ![]() |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:14pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
salvation101:America is the last world power that both Daniel and Revelations prophesied about, remember the last worldly government will be passing rulership from one person to another and one tribe to another as in at appointed times. Daniel 2:44 That's the feet of iron that can't mix with clay. Unlike those prior to that time ancient Kings do have absolute power so they don't need to consider what the people think before they act but under America's democracy, rulers are looking unto their people for re~contesting. All of them are useless because Satan is using them to oppose God's authority, that's why having a human King sound so evil in the sight of Samuel because all those Nations having Kings Satan can easily manipulate! 1Samuel 8:6 |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by danvon(m): 9:25pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:So every armed robbery victim was materialistic including those attacked by fulani herdsmen? |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:32pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
salvation101:Sir i've told you before but perhaps i should rephrase it. I'm not a Jew so i've got nothing to gain for debating over there language or names, what interests me is the invincibility and wisdom of their God. I want to worship a God that can explain to me Why i'm here?Why people are dying?What happens at death? When will crime,injustice and suffering ends?Why are there so much religions? What will be the end of all badness? And many more. Well i've found answers to all these questions in a book that they claim to have been inspired by their God! So that's why i'm determined to worship their God. Jehovah,Yahweh or whatever their God is called by name will be my God. But the name Jehovah has been accepted generally for centuries and it's evident that those championing this name are doing so well to me that's why I have no objections, you can choose to call any name you feel i'm comfortable with Jehovah and HIS witnesses! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
danvon:Well after obeying His commands what He promised me is "if i'm alive when His Kingdom comes i'll never die again and if i'm dead by then He will call and i will answer Him". John 11: 25/26, 5:28/29 Please that's what Faith can mean for you! Hebrew 11:1, 2Thessalonians 3:2 For your information all humans are sinners meaning we're all walking copse( Matthew 8:22) notice how Jesus "God's Son" referred to those without Him! whether old age,sickness,accident,murder,natural disaster,genocide or suicide all are ways to die. God is only been merciful to Adam's descendants with HIS gift of everlasting life.Romans 6:23 |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:47pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Your founder never used Jehovah witnesses. Rutherford second leader started using the name in 1935. It took your jehovah 60years to reveal his name to his followers.your jehovah is a Very slow god |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:48pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Assumption assumption assumption. You guys will take one verse and use it out of context. Shame on your cult |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:52pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
removetheturban:You forgot to write 1914. Abi there is new light or 1914 is now a false date? You did not talk about 1935 the year your leader Rutherford said that his god closed the gate of heaven to all followers joining after 1935. You forgot to write about 1975 that your leaders prophesied a false date for end of the world. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:03pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:I've told you my friend, nothing do you! Just go and eat your catfish pepper soup with your drink and sleep. You're a born again Christian already so keep doing the work of the Lord,can somebarry help me shout Hallelujah because of this born again Christian called Hairyrapunzel? Hallelujah 7 times! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:06pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
removetheturban:Interesting. If you show me a bible passage where Jehovah or Jesus Christ preached neutrality I will join your religion today. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:20pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
removetheturban:You believe no clergy class as all are equal in God's sight? You have the governing body to branch overseers to circuit overseers to congregation overseers. You have elders, ministerial servants, pioneers (auxiliary or regular) And you say there is no clergy class? Your organization in law courts claim they have clergy because they want the privileges given to the clergy. You say all are equal in God's sight yet your governing body teaches you and forces you to believe that they and the ones that claim to be abnointed will go to heaven while you their followers will inherit earth. Haba who do you want to lie to? You say there is high moral standard. I need a reference for this claim that isn't a watchtower organization. Do you know watchtower harbours and support pedophiles, rapists and women beaters? Do you know they punish the victims and let the perpetrators go free? High moral standards indeed. For over 140 years you have been preaching end is near. You have even given different false dates. Its no news. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:20pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:ok. You have found these answers, have you also found the answers to how you can be free from sin even as a human? Hope you realize without Holiness, no man shall see God? Heb12:14 Jehovah,Yahweh or whatever their God is called by name will be my God. But the name Jehovah has been accepted generally for centuries and it's evident that those championing this name are doing so well to me that's why I have no objections, you can choose to call any name you feel i'm comfortable with Jehovah and HIS witnesses!you accept the name that was not derived by you "Jesus chosen" society but from a" devil controlled" church?.. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:39pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:so u know a little about Daniel prophecy but feigned ignorance to the fact dat the Grecian empire existed before Roman empire? Well dat ur interpretation is even false. And by the way, America is only a world power and not and empire.. Right now there are so many world powers.. G8, G20 etc Daniel 2:44 That's the feet of iron that can't mix with clay. Unlike those prior to that time ancient Kings do have absolute power so they don't need to consider what the people think before they act but under America's democracy, rulers are looking unto their people for re~contesting. All of them are useless because Satan is using them to oppose God's authority, that's why having a human King sound so evil in the sight of Samuel because all those Nations having Kings Satan can easily manipulate! 1Samuel 8:6how come the so called world power doesn't have enough power to stop the killing of Christians and promote freedom of expression in Islamic societies? Or did Jehovah only sent you to places where freedom of expression exists |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:51pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Riofidelio:When did the bible say Jesus Christ refused to be a politician? You just assume anything and think it is true. Jesus Christ asking an incumbent politician to follow him doesn't mean he (Jesus Christ) refused to be a politician. Saying Jesus Christ refused to become a politician is cunningly deceitful. It's not stated in bible. Because you want your idea to sound true, you argue from silence so you assumption will look true to people who are ignorant about the bible. Stop peddling false statement Be mixing scriptures with assumption so it will sound right in your ear. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by deebrain(m): 1:50am On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:So why would , for example, Jesus use the term I AM (John 8 vs 48-59) to describe Himself , similar to God's statement in Exodus 3 vs 14? God continues to tell Moses, "tell them, I AM has sent Me to you"..... That was the reason for the opposition he faced. You pick scriptures were Jesus deliberately distances himself as God (cause of people he was discussing with at a point) and ignore the scripture He fully express his divinity. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 8:30am On Apr 13, 2018 |
deebrain:If we're just picking scriptures and leaving other scriptures,that means we're just like any other religious group claiming Christian,well that's our own understanding of the scriptures so you can present your own understanding of the scriptures too.One thing that distinguish US is we're standing out as unique and never going to agree with interfaith meaning we can live together peacefully, we can work together diligently, we can eat together but as regards SACRED SERVICES will do ours separately. God bless you Sir! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:05am On Apr 13, 2018 |
salvation101:If you're asking a question, why not ask without accusations? These are the world powers from 1-7 respectively Egypt, Assyria(Southern Iran),Babylonian(Iraq),Medes and Persia(Orientals with Northern Iran),Greece,Rome,England and America. The seven heads of the beast means seven dynasties and ten horns means there are some of them that formed Alliance as two in one government.Destruction of innocent souls is the main intention of Satan(John 10:10) so it will continue until Jesus overthrow Satan. Daniel 2:44,Matthew 6:10 But the most important feature of the end time is that despite all the killings going on God's people will be preaching throughout the Earth either formally or informally(Matthew 24:3-14) well for your information Jehovah's witnesses are in every country on Earth but we're only noticed where there's freedom of expression.That's why God's Spirit is manipulating the United Nations to enforce freedom of expression throughout the world and any country not in agreement with that condition is sanctioned. As for the G2 or G8 please read that account of the wild beast in the book of Revelations again, you'll notice that the scriptures says all those falling Nations aren't totally dead but instead they're ruling together as one under the leadership of the eight and last world power! Revelations 17:11 |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:36am On Apr 13, 2018 |
salvation101:We only explain what God revealed when we see humble ones but i'm doing this for the sake of those who may pick interest and decided to know more! If you read Revelations 6:1-8 there are four riders, the first is our Master Lord and King (Jesus Christ) in the Spirit realms He's conquering all forms of false worship with the message of His servants that's why we're penetrating everywhere with the good news of God's Kingdom. The second rider is the Spirit of war that's manipulating people to kill one another, that's why there is killing every second because of religion! Well i'll stop there if anyone wants to know more, this forum says "who are Jehovah's witnesses?" so when next you see us coming you can decide to allow us in for more information on the sacred secrets in God's word or as usual send us away! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by deebrain(m): 10:10am On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:That's not the answer to the question asked... Since you are supposedly Christians . I will be really shocked if you avoid this Bible common truth. Jesus Christ used a God term for himself in the scriptures I quoted. kindly answer. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:05am On Apr 13, 2018 |
deebrain:We're not for arguments but setting matters straight with the aid of the scriptures,(2Timothy 3:16/17)if you're not interested in setting matters straight then we're asked to avoid unnecessary arguments!(Phillipians 2:14)This is the Answer. After Adam and Eve have demanded privacy from God, HE sent them out of Eden,and that's when Jesus started acting as God because of all the creatures God used Jesus to make He loved humans most. Proverbs 8:30 Whenever people hears any voice,vision or dreams the voice they're voice Jesus' that's why He's called the word because every sacred secret heard got to us through Him, So when you read anything about Jehovah in the Old Testament the Spirit representing the Almighty is another mighty Spirit(Jesus) His assignment as God stopped when God transformed Him into a child in the womb of Mary. So if Jesus say I AM know that His voice was heard then but because after His earthly assignment He has to stand at the right hand of His God and John wrote the Gospel years later that's why John could say "the word (Jesus) WAS God" he can't say "is God" as Jesus is no more serving that purpose again since God has anointed or adopted humans as Sons with the Spirit. But we shouldn't forget that all these reconciliation couldn't have been possible without the one who stood for US before God and that person is no other than our redeemer "Jesus". He WAS God during the reconciliation process. John 1:1/14 |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:21am On Apr 13, 2018 |
deebrain:Jesus becomes the most important person both in Heaven and on Earth because HE was able to reconcile humans back to His father who created us in HIS image through the self sacrificing Spirit He displayed.(Matthew 28:18) When God said "let us make the last creature in our image" the person HE was taking to was HIS first creature the only one created directly by God HIMSELF that mighty Spirit being is Jesus. Genesis 1:28 compare to Proverbs 8:22-31 So when He said "before Abraham was born i existed" He was talking about His prehuman existence as a mighty Spirit being! But there is someone who created Him. Jesus is also called the Alfa and Omega meaning Beginning and Ending because He's the beginning of creation but the Almighty God has no beginning! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:56pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:where on earth did Daniel see 7kingdoms? Was there any time the Egyptians ruled the whole world? In that vision Daniel saw 5 kingdom... The Babylonian, Medo-persian, Greecian, Roman and Coming kingdom of the messiah..The Roman empire only disintegrated and there has been several attempts to unite it wch has failed.. The antichrist will succeed in uniting all the kingdoms of the world again and the Kingdom of Christ shall break his kingdom to poeces |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by deebrain(m): 2:07pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Wrong. the first person He created was Adam. vs 27. And He created them two. MALE AND FEMALE. So in your explanations, Jesus and His female version? Second bolded wrong again. Jesus knew some grammar and the Jews also. He said, before Abraham was, I AM ( NOT I WAS, OR I EXISTED . The Jews knew what he said! |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:21pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
salvation101:Well if you want to know more just signify by asking! Egypt and Assyria have fallen when God show Daniel the vision, Nebuchadnezzar is the head of gold but if you compare what Daniel saw with that of John you'll notice that five have fallen and the one present during the time John was writing the book of Revelation is Rome. Revelation 17:10 So you can now try to find out how the fallen numbered up to five if you're not convinced about Egypt and Assyria. |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:27pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:well i do not usually send ir folks away but i ask dem alot of question.. Does being a jehova withness give one the ability to be free from sin? U know wat Heb12:14 says |
| Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:28pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Riofidelio:is there anytime in history that the world was under the rule of Egyptians or Assyrians? |
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. I might not also agree with all their teaching either 