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bloodofthelamb:
How can I admit what is not stated? Their identity was not revealed. You are just speculating and guessing.

solite3:
good so onesimus is Paul's brother. Is your son your brother?
Did Paul literally give birth to onesimus or it was figurative

solite3:
Isaac was the referred to as the only begotten son of Abraham Sarah was not mentioned there following your logic Isaac was the only son Abraham gave birth to.

I was just following your logic not that I agree with you


All are sons because all are created
Such flawed reasoning



Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?


God has never said to any angel you are my son. This rules Jesus out as an angel
Which means Jesus is not a created being

Peacefullove:




And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling - Jude 1 vs 6

Who are the angels that left their dwelling place according to the Bible verse ?

Now the world will know how deluded it is to defend a lie .

Peacefullove:




And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling - Jude 1 vs 6

Who are the angels that left their dwelling place according to the Bible verse ?

Now the world will know how deluded it is to defend a lie .

bloodofthelamb:
Bro we are following their logic. Now, they are crying and lamenting. Peaceoflove and removeturban come and show me where angels are called sons of God and, also show me where Jesus is called an angel.

bloodofthelamb:
First and foremost Jesus is never called an angel, or you can as well show me were Jesus is called an angel?

bloodofthelamb:
The sons of God in Noah days were not angels for they cannot marry neither can they reproduce. The blessing of reproduction are only for creatures under heaven. Righteous men are the sons of God being referred to in Gen2:6.

bloodofthelamb:
The word Nephilim in Hebrew means a bully, tyrrant. They are not offspring of an angelic invasion upon the earth.

removetheturban:
Hebrews 1:4 How did Jesus BECOME better than the angels? From what position was he elevated to having a superior name and becoming better than the angels?


Hebrew 1:4_ The Son was made greater than the
angels. He didn't say the Son is an angel. So you have not answered my question.

The Bible says that the sons of God took up wives for themselves.

Why have you chosen to dispute the word of God?


You are the one disputing the word of God and interpreting to suit your agenda for Jesus gave us a clue about the nature of angels when he said believers will be like his angels in heaven in terms of not marrying.


Job 38:7 says that the sons of the true God shouted in applause at Jehovah's wonderful creations.


Hebrew 1:5_ For God never said to any of his angels: You are my son; ( emphasis added throughout) God has never said such.

Job 1:6 says that the sons of God took their positions BEFORE Jehovah. Referring to Satan specifically (his name mentioned as one of the sons who took their positions),


The scripture is not referring to satan. He was found to be among the council of the sons of God because he obtained that right through
Adam the son of God who fell.


Jehovah asked where he had come from. Satan said that he came from the earth showing that the location in question is not the earth but the heavens. Therefore, the sons of God as used in those verses are heavenly creatures.

What other creatures are there revealed to exist in the heavens?

Do you agree with me that there are things yet to be revealed to us beyond the clouds and even in our earth?

How are they (sons of)men? Are you attempting to re-write the Bible?

I never said the sons of God in the book of Job are men or you can show me where I said such?

Jesus said that sons of men had never been to the heavens when he was on earth. How then, did they take their stations before Jehovah while one of them claimed to HAVE COME from the earth(location of men)?
Your bilateral opinion is shrouding your ability to absorb the clinquant scriptural veracity that is being presented to you. Initially, you claimed that 'Jesus is the sons of God'.
Show me were I made this claim?

Now, you are toning down to righteous MEN being the sons of God.

You could have proceeded with your former thought, but due to the negative actions recorded in the Bible carried out by the sons of God, you are unable to find a closure to your thought. Especially, when we asked you if Jesus was the one referred to in Genesis 6:2. It dawned on you that you were in a deadlock hence your latter thought.

If you argue that Nephilims are not hybrids, who am I to judge you but to leave you to your belief?

Why not check up the meaning of Nephilim and stop being ignorant?

As it stands already, many Trinitarians will not agree with you on many points. So, what Church do you represent in fact?

bloodofthelamb

The sons of God in Noah days were not angels for they cannot marry neither can they reproduce.

The blessing of reproduction are only for creatures under heaven.

Righteous men are the sons of God being referred to in Gen2:6.

bloodofthelamb:
I am the Church of the Living God.

Peacefullove:
I know it would get to this:





Can they eat ? Answer! This is a vital area.



But you admit they can come to earth in MALE form ? So what stop them from having reproductive organ ?

Going by your logic , they should not eat as well, but they do when they come in human form ... Eating . If they could possess mouth and intestine , what made you think they can't reproduce in that MALE form ?



So Noah wasn't the only righteous man on earth , bible lied ?

Can angels appear as human ?

Who are those angels that sinned mentioned in connection with the world of Noah in 2 Pet 2 : verse 4 and 5

Am waiting ...

Peacefullove:
I know it would get to this:





Can they eat ? Answer! This is a vital area.



But you admit they can come to earth in MALE form ? So what stop them from having reproductive organ ?

Going by your logic , they should not eat as well, but they do when they come in human form ... Eating . If they could possess mouth and intestine , what made you think they can't reproduce in that MALE form ?



So Noah wasn't the only righteous man on earth , bible lied ?

Can angels appear as human ?

Who are those angels that sinned mentioned in connection with the world of Noah in 2 Pet 2 : verse 4 and 5

Am waiting ...

removetheturban:
Yeah, right!

I mean, let me get you right. Is this your website https://www.clgfgm.org/

bloodofthelamb:
Let us go back to Gen 6:5- And God saw that the wickedness of MAN{ not angels, or Half angel and Half man} was great in the earth, that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6: And it repented the LORD that he had made MAN{ not angels} on the earth. Did GOD forgot to mention angels?

bloodofthelamb:
Look again. I said, I am the church of the Living God. The habitation of God through the Holy Ghost.

bloodofthelamb:
Let us go back to Gen 6:5- And God saw that the wickedness of MAN{ not angels, or Half angel and Half man} was great in the earth, that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6: And it repented the LORD that he had made MAN{ not angels} on the earth. Did GOD forgot to mention angels?

Peacefullove:
He mentioned that some spirit sin in the days of Noah , How exactly did these angels sin by LEAVING their proper dwelling place ? Jude 1 vs 6

bloodofthelamb:
How did Jude 1 vs 6 relate to Gen 6 vs 2? Jude never mentioned Noah in his epistle. You were the one that inserted and brought in Noah.

Jude is simply saying this angels like their master the Devil, left the truth which was their habitation and estate { John 8 vs 44}.

bloodofthelamb:
How did Jude 1 vs 6 relate to Gen 6 vs 2? Jude never mentioned Noah in his epistle. You were the one that inserted and brought in Noah.

Jude is simply saying this angels like their master the Devil, left the truth which was their habitation and estate { John 8 vs 44}.

bloodofthelamb:
How did Jude 1 vs 6 relate to Gen 6 vs 2? Jude never mentioned Noah in his epistle. You were the one that inserted and brought in Noah.

Jude is simply saying this angels like their master the Devil, left the truth which was their habitation and estate { John 8 vs 44}.

bloodofthelamb:
How did Jude 1 vs 6 relate to Gen 6 vs 2? Jude never mentioned Noah in his epistle. You were the one that inserted and brought in Noah.

Jude is simply saying this angels like their master the Devil, left the truth which was their habitation and estate { John 8 vs 44}.

Peacefullove:
Defending a lie is not easy at all.

I thought their proper DWELLING place is heaven.

Truth is their habitat and estate NOT heaven?

Peacefullove:
Defending a lie is not easy at all.

I thought their proper DWELLING place is heaven.

Truth is their habitat and estate NOT heaven?

removetheturban:
You have to lie or cook another doctrine to cover up a lie. It is the hardest thing to defend. Especially, when you are dealing with people who have the truth.

bloodofthelamb:
The sins of the angels is rebellion and pride, wanting to have what God did not give them.

There is no link between this verse and Gen 6:2.

Meanwhile, are you guys saying the angels created for themselves body capable of engaging in sexual intercouse with women? Or did Jehovah assist them in giving them body? Is the angels equal in power with Jehovah?

I will like to know.

removetheturban:
Let me reverse your thought. It may allow you see things perfectly.

How did Satan become a serpent in the Garden of Eden?

Did God give him that Body?

Is Satan's power equal to Jehovah's?

Are you saying that Satan created for himself bodies capable of speaking and deceiving perfect men? Your answers are as good as your demand.

bloodofthelamb:
Oga you have not answered me. You are playing the Jehovah witness game. Did the angels create body for themselves composed of flesh and blood with humanlike chromosome capable of mating with a woman and producing an offsprings? Or were they incarnate?