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Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by HigherEd: 9:05pm On May 22, 2018 |
Please read patiently. Tales of "Defined" Justice/Right I'm a product of Lagos State University, and if one must talk about religion injustice, Lagos State University, particularly Faculty of Law, is a classical example. So much to talk about but of most prominence is the line up of Courses we were made to learn. This hasn't changed till date. In my first year, Islamic Law was made compulsory for both Christians and Muslims. We all took the Course because we had no choice. The rule was that it's either you take the course or you drop out. To make it more deadly, it's the only Course that was 4 units. All other Courses, including Nigeria Legal Method were 2 units. The implication is that, if you fail the Course, there is a high tendency that you may drop out. So, the helpless Christians were made to study Islamic Law Course so hard, and in this way, were forced to learn Islamic principles which is against their faith. As a rule, if you mention the name of the prophet, you must add "Praise Be Unto Him". Our lecturer warned us that anyone who attempts his exam questions without this indication stands a risk of failing the Course. It was "adhere or you fail". In 200 level, the only elective Course made available by my institution was Islamic Transaction Law. And the system is designed in a way that you must pick at least one elective Course to complete your units for the session, otherwise, you risk a chance of been withdrawn for under registration. We were "compulsorily" made to learn a subject that's against our faith as Christians, an act which is clearly in breach of our fundamental right as eshrined in the Constitution, the same law those against the Body of Benchers are canvassing. I remember how my lecturer rebuked me for daring to raise such issue. Heaven didn't fall! Some of my able lecturers and colleagues who are running this campaign online now supervised this act against us (with utmost respect sirs). They didn't remember the very right they are canvassing. The policy was against Christians and since Christians are not humans, they have no such constitutional right. Even as I write, the situation is the same in my alma mater. Christians are still technically forced to study Islamic Law. Again, heaven is not falling. No one is talking about it. I was going to tag some of my lecturers here but I suspect they may feel embarrassed. I know they are reading this. And so wish to pass this message. If you feel not allowing your Muslim sisters to wear hijab for 2 hours is against their fundamental right, what do you have to say about forcing the Christian faithfuls in your institution to learn Islamic principles for 2 years? Do we have two sets of Constitution governing us? By the wordings of the Constitution, the right not to be forced to learn principles against one's faith is almost absolute and as such, the Christians in faculty of law, Lagos State University have more beautiful fight than the lady whose religion excesses were curtailed. How come we overlook the one whose right is almost absolute and are weeping over the one whose right is subjective? We must learn not to create unnecessary tension in this country. I'm not a religion bigot. I'm only raising these issues to balance the equation. Justice, equity and fairness is all we seek. If we must talk about the Body of Benchers, we must also talk about the injustice in my LASU! I.K. Okhai https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208434483259933&id=1841911108 Lalasticlala CodeTemplar TheVictorious |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by kindy51(m): 9:13pm On May 22, 2018 |
Hmm |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by HigherEd: 9:14pm On May 22, 2018 |
Cast out religion from the Government, cast out religion from Law! It is interesting to note that the people who fought for the separation of state and religion in the USA and in the west generally where fervent Christians. They knew and understood that while Christians should be involved in Politics it was dangerous for the Church to be enmeshed in politics. They also understood that it would be unfair to evolve a Christiano - centric government structure just to accommodate Atheists and people of other faith. Therefore it is not a coincidence that the "most christian" nations of the earth are the most tolerant. It however seems that the Islamic mind is still very primitive, they evolve every cheapish and shameful behaviour to express dominance over the other. Every where they exist in great numbers they constitute a threat to every one else. From Saudi, Indonesia, Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt their repressive behaviour is well known to all. 5 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CodeTemplar: 9:17pm On May 22, 2018 |
Pathetic! This pattern is so evident. If non-muslims tag this an attempt to islamize they, the kick against us and go on a new sinister campaign. Who is Mohammad to a non-muslims that they must add "praise be unto him" when mentioning his name. Even here on Nairaland they have a way of segregating themselves to advance their cause. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CodeTemplar: 9:24pm On May 22, 2018 |
HigherEd:If not for primitive minds what will make a Muslims claims actions of another man infringes his own beliefs as a Muslim and then go ahead to infringe the law that permitted Muslim by killing that man. Religion is suppose to be a personal thing but it is shocking how Muslims bring theirs to the fore and override the right of others to it. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by HigherEd: 9:41pm On May 22, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Islamic religion is never personal. It always wants to assume the status of "State Religion". Of recent a well performing Christian governor in Indonesia was charged to court for making a non-blasphemous reference to Islam. Years ago a Sudanese Muslim convert was arrested for marrying a christian and converting. Sometime ago an atheist was sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia. Evidences abound everywhere that this religion is very toxic and very unmanageable. But everybody is trying to be politically correct so we don't offend.... They say let's get rid of the terrorists so terrorism can end and leave Islam alone. But they fail to realise that the terrorists are just the first victims of a deadly ideology. Chances are if we made this kind of discussion in an Islamic country like Sudan and Saudi both our heads would have relocated from its neck. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by AtYourCervix: 2:11am On May 23, 2018 |
HigherEd: Fundamentalism is the problem not the religion itself. Fundamentalist Christians in those "Most Christian" nations too are fighting against the liberalism view of others. It just becomes a problem when the fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals/modernists as is the case in Islamic countries and laws are made based on theocratic view. It also begs the question "Who are the true believers? the Fundies or Liberals" While you claimed those that supported separation of church and state were Christians but you ignored the fact that those that fought against it were also comprised almost entirely of Christians. Look for any issue that divides humans generally and you're bound to find Christians fighting for each side of the divide. Christians were protesting against invasion of Iraq and Christians were also in support. Christians fight against abortion and Christians support it. Christians support Christian communism and Christians also argue against it. Christians fought for slavery and Christians fought for it's abolishment. Christians support Capitalism and Christians support socialism. Even LGBT rights are supported by Christians and argued against by Christians. its almost as if Christians are as human as the heathens too cuz these issues divide humans generally speaking so saying Christians supported separation of church and state is not wrong but its a very biased view stated with an agenda in mind reducing everything down to the religion itself is not very wise 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 9:41am On May 23, 2018 |
HigherEd:You are on point in every area of this submission. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 9:42am On May 23, 2018 |
Islam demands respect but never gives to others. They use state power rto push their religion whenever they can. It's the antichrist. And they will be the first to call others bigots for pointing out their bigotry. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 9:45am On May 23, 2018 |
AtYourCervix:No, islam is the problem . Its always naturally fundamentalist. All 57 islamic states points to that. How many countries call themselves christian countries as a matter of state rule and impose anti muslim policies ? |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by AtYourCervix: 10:23am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: I don't know if you're buttressing my point or countering it Christianity also went through a period of killing who they perceive as outsiders, see: 30 year war amongst other wars fought on religious grounds Islamic states employ theocratic rule and that's where the problem is, any nation that base their laws on what a particular god wants is always going to cause lots of troubles for people who don't buy into their god idea. If the developed nations adopt theocracy using any religion be it islam/Christianity/ifa worship it would turn bloody quickly too When Fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals and the modernists it leads inevitably to theocracy and theocracy would leave destructions in its wake no matter the religion involved I agree islam has its own doctrinal issues but what's happening in Islamic countries goes beyond doctrines 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 10:27am On May 23, 2018 |
TAKING ISLAMIC LAW (JUST THE SAME WAY CRK IS BEING FORCED ON STUDENTS) IS VERY NECESSARY. KUDOS TO THE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by AtYourCervix: 10:33am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED: this is so true, you're to pick one of CRK and IRK when in primary and secondary schools. you can't opt for none. You do assembly and they pray to Jesus from Monday to Thursday then allah only on Fridays. you have no choice than to be there and take part with them and if you're not partaking well enough you'd be flogged or punished through other means by prefects or teachers 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 10:38am On May 23, 2018 |
AtYourCervix:Islam cant be reformed because their founder-Mohammed is the cause and source of their nature unlike Christianity where the killings were an aberration to what Christ preached and lived by. Am trying to point out to you the huge opposite difference between the two and for you to stop viewing them as similar. Just because Christians (mainly Catholics) stooped killings does not automatically mean or infer that islamists will because the two religions are operating from different, even opposite, ideological source and parameters. Whats happening in islamic countries is first doctrines than politics of autocracy. Quite opposite to Christian dominated states even before now . 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by Nobody: 10:45am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED: I hate that CRK back then in high school! |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 10:53am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: HOW DO YOU RESPECT ME EACH TIME YOU SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE WITHOUT INVITATION, AND TRY TO FORCE YOUR SCRIPTURES DOWN MY THROAT? HOW DO YOU SHOW RESPECT EVERYTIME YOU START TO CHANT YOUR WORSHIP HYMNS, AND DISTURB COMMUTERS WITH YOUR PRAYERS? YOU REMEMBER THE TIMES YOU WOKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY 4AM WITH THE NOISE FROM YOUR MEGAPHONE? WHERE WAS THE RESPECT? WHEN IT COMES TO DISRESPECT AND INVASION OF PRIVACY, MUSLIMS ARE LIKE NURSERY SCHOOL PUPILS COMPARED TO CHRISTIANS, THE CHAMPIONS. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by AtYourCervix: 10:53am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: Doctrines when taken to the extreme by the majority (aka fundamentalism) leads to theocracy I think I've said enough already 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 10:55am On May 23, 2018 |
AtYourCervix:Have you also learnt enough? It is not a fluke that all 57 islamic countries have anti Christian policies based on fundamentalism while it hard to mention a handful of Christian dominated countries with such. Unless you prefer to be naïve about such glaring facts. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 10:58am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:So the loud speakers blaring from mosque to miles away is not included? No christian forces themselves on you when they come to preach most times they leave if you indicate your lack of interest. Christ even gave specific instructions to that effect. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 11:09am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: LOUD SPEAKERS ARE GENERAL. I REMEMBER HOW LAST DECEMBER I HAD TO HIRE SPEAKERS BECAUSE OF THE CHOSEN CHURCH OPPOSITE MY GATE. BRO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TYPE OF NOISE IN MY LIFE. IT SOUNDED LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS. TRIED TO TALK TO THEIR PASTORS BUT THEY SAW ME AS AN ENEMY OF THE WORD OF GOD. I EVEN HAD TO INVOLVE THE LAW BUT NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I HIRED SPEAKERS THE NEXT WEEKEND AND MOUNTED THEM IN FRONT OF MY GATE, FACING THEIR SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH. YOU KNOW THAT CRAZY GHANAIAN SONG THAT REIGNED AROUND THEN, I MADE CONNECTIONS AND THE SONG WAS ON REPEAT.. FOR JUST ONE DAY. THAT WAS HOW I GOT THEM TO TUNE IT DOWN... LIKE TO THE LOWEST LEVEL, AND NEVER TRIED THAT SHÎT AGAIN. THEY ONLY INCLUDED NEW PRAYER POINTS WHICH SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE MEANT FOR ME, BUT I'M YET TO "DIE BY FIRE" SO I GUESS IT DIDN'T WORK. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:19am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:Now,what have you done about the even loud speaker of mosque in early morning? Try that same tactics and see the difference between Christians and Muslims if you come out alive. You will see that general is not "general" 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:19am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:Now, what have you done about the even loud speakers of mosques which disturb entire neighborhoods in early morning? Try that same tactics and see the difference between Christians and Muslims if you come out alive especially if you are not a muslim. Then we will see who is learners is privacy invasion. You will see that general is not "general" 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 11:27am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: THERE'S NO MOSQUE IN THIS AREA. THE LAST ONE WAS BURNT IN 2011. I'D RATHER LIVE 1 CENTIMETER AWAY FROM THE MOSQUE SPEAKERS THAN 1 KILOMETER AWAY FROM THAT CHURCH I TALKED ABOUT. DEATH IS BETTER THAN ENDURING SUCH HORRENDOUS SERMONS. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:31am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:So will someone living far away from the church say. Now imagine living 1 centimeter to it coupled with the fear that trying to apply your tactics to stop it can easily lead to your death. Imagine what those living close by suffers given how loud the mosque blare sounds from miles away. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 11:38am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: WHAT MY LAST POST MEANT... THE NOISE FROM SPEAKER A (1KM AWAY) IS 10X WORSE THAN THE ONE FROM SPEAKER B (1CM CLOSE). PLUS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ARABIC SO.. IT'S A LITTLE BIT PLEASANT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOISE. WHILE THE OTHER ORGANIZATION KEEPS SPITTING WORSE THINGS AT THE HIGHEST UNBEARABLE FREQUENCY. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by Nobody: 11:38am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED: ![]() ![]() Funny man! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:43am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:You can say that because youve not lived close by to mosque loudspeakers or you prefer to lie. Imagine what those living close by suffers given how loud the mosque blare sounds from miles away. Talking about privacy invasion, what can be more "privacy invasive" than the bombs flying off in mosques from/ by muslims or the random killings over mundane things? I guess that will be the icing on the cake for you or whoever decides to live near a mosque. ![]() ![]() Now, you prefer noise to a language you can comprehend. Quite interesting 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 11:51am On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: BOMBINGS ARE ACTS OF TERRORISM. THERE ARE CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD, AND ALSO IN OTHER SECTS. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:58am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD? Do you have charcoal for brains or are you a muslim? Do you even know what BH means? Tell me secretly with a whisper, do you sniff dung secretly? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:58am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD? Do you have charcoal for brains or are you a muslim? Do you even know what BH means? Tell me secretly do you sniff dung? I pledge i want tell anyone |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by princfred(m): 11:58am On May 23, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD? Do you have charcoal for brains or are you a muslim? Do you even know what BH means? Tell me secretly do you sniff dung? I pledge i want tell anyone. |
Re: Lagos State University Forces Christian Students To Take Islamic Law by CAPSLOCKED: 12:02pm On May 23, 2018 |
princfred: YOU'VE SHOWN YOUR COLOURS AND IT'S CLEAR NOW THAT YOU'RE UNINTELLIGENT. I'M TELLING YOU RN THAT NOT ONLY MUSLIMS MAKE UP TERRORIST GROUPS. I'M DONE WITH YOU. 1 Like |
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