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Inricash:
You guys are typing out of ignorance...


Fahlz said the bitter truth without any sugar coating...


You mention cost of running a University as maybe a profit making venture not as a missionary..


Those missionaries that came to preach the gospel had several secondary school they ran for free, which one is your church running for free? And in your comparison to Government, ask yourself if the government is not also struggling to fund Secondary or even primary schools....


How do you even Justify fees in excess of a million or two in a bid to Justify the Church...

Nothing is free in this world. The missionary schools were paid for by contributions and funding from the parent churches abroad. The aim of missionary education was to produce literates who could administer the govt and business structures the colonialists had on ground. How would the colonialists have run their administrations, courts, police forces, etc, if not from having locals who could speak and write English and so form a bridge between the colonial powers and the local people?

You need to have some common sense mister. What has the white man ever given you for FREE?

CoolAmbience:
Please, clarify on clergymen / churches that own Airlines that provide charter jet services, such as Dominion Air Company and Emmanuel Aviation, and help reconcile it with your submission on the mandate of the Church.

Churches have no business running airlines. If they own jets they can rent it out to cover maintainance cost. But owning full commercial airlines is going too far..

HigherEd:
We are simply asking many of these entitled folks to tell us where you got your ideas of an utopia where church uni run without charging fees. Yale, Princeton, Harvard came into the argument because they were founded by churches of their clergies. But if you think that is too hard to process then tell us how Yonsei, regeant, pepperdine, Oral Roberts uni, biola uni, Loyola Marymount uni, oakwood uni, villanova uni, leeward, Georgetown uni, St Andrews uni all founded and in many cases still run by churches charge millions of naira that dwarf the tuition of Nigerian church unis.
Why are people in those countries not screaming like many of the idiots in Nigeria. Maybe it's because they understand a thing or two about what it cost to run a university.

Why are their poor not screaming blue murder against the church for allowing their unis charge them thousands of dollars in fees which results in ppl taking back breaking loans to pay. Their poor also pay tithe and offerings, not to talk of the huge financial aid their govt still gives to private universities. Catholic uni of Notre dame collected millions of USD from US every year yet the school fees is 45,000USD.

The best private uni in Africa is American Univ of Cairo which charges 14,000USD while Covenant is the second and charges about 3,000USD. Let that sink in.

DrayZee CodeTemplar made important point on the so called call for industries. And let me reiterate that many universities funded by churches even have more employees than some industries. But be rest assured that when churches go into industries you would hear demonic things like "how can church build an auto industry when members can't afford the cars they make." That's the insanity of the Nigerian populace they deliberately forget the churches to employ ppl through universities and draw out the fact that poor people can't attend. Covenant for instance has over 2000 families feeding from it. But no let's forget that and focus on the 850,000 fees that the poor cannot pay.

THIS IS A CASE OF ROBBING PETER TO PAY PUAL
ROBBING POOR MEMBER TO BENEFIT RICH MEMBER
Is either you are a pastor or one of their family,,,, because I don't know why you should forget about the church member that contributed for the establishment of these university, Catholic, Anglican, and all these autodox churches are the face of education in Africa, and most of this pastors are part of the beneficiary of the free education that was established by those Catholic, Anglican and other ages churches then, and you have a gut to ridicule the middle class and the poor that can't avoid this evil universities that was build with their hard earned money, don't forget there is God oooo(in mama p voice) the money that Rccg make in just a month is ×2 of what Oyo state government used to received as there monthly allocation, so why it is now difficult to run this universities with the price that the poor member will be able to avoid, don't forget you and your evil pastor belong to hell if you don't review this price and let it available for all member in your church,,,,,

loswhite:
ok let us go to secondary schools since the missionaries did not built university....
The secondary schools are they affordable?
Is it cheap to run a secondary school? In your lane reasoning u think running those missionaries secondary schools where cheap right ? U ppm are just so blind. The most annoying part is the comparison with US and other countries without considering the parity of purchasing power in each of the countries

We thank God for his mercies
Now, simply, simply, give me an example of any "missionary" secondary school with quality remniscent of those run by the churches that is free. Just like one or two examples will do.
Purchasing power eh? They brought missionaries to me as an example, and I said, okay, show me a "missionary" university that is free. Is that too much to ask?

okuwehcris:
Try and view it from another perspective, where it says if the advantages of a thing far supersede the disadvantage, then it's worth investing.
How much does a professor earn as monthly pay, multiply it by say minimum of 50, cost of maintenance and running cost you would realise running a standard University is not cheap...

The argument is not if running university is cheap or not it goers more than that. Why are those church university property of the top MOG?, cant they guild other things that can benefit the contributors of the money like true missionaries did? Those are more important issues.

CoolAmbience:
I see nothing wrong with them investing in industries, like FMCGs, agriculture and minning. I mean of what use is enhancing quality education in an environment of rapidly diminishing job opportunities?

While I commend your articulate and sensible defence of the Church in some areas, I still think that there are certain 'indefencibles' which even you should acknowledge, just as this one.


If you have mandate to build schools for improved learning you should also have mandate to support in creating good jobs for some of these quality human products that you have generated.

That is simply rational.

it is ok for them to build hotels and halls for rent but industries is an abomination..lol

kennypoka2:
You are a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting evil even when you don't have much knowledge on the matter being discussed. I pity people like you.. The world would be better if only you choose to follow the right path.. Please, choose to. Thank you

I choose to use my brain instead of ranting uninformed.
YOU should be ashamed of yourself. You came here pouring insults up and down, one would think you had something reasonable to say. All your replies, empty, and now you ended with further insults. Obviously, you had no point from the beginning.

Private universities provide a needed service in Nigeria. For a good standard, they need money to function as tithes cannot sustain it.
Should they be closed down then? I have a freind who is so embittered about the tuition of these universities because he wants his child to go there, but this same person doesn't even go to any of these churches, has never paid tithes in his life yet wants to benefit from private uni.I simply came to the conclusion that it is the love of freebies that are making people salty over this issue.They believe you've struck gold when you pay 100k total in tithes all your life and you get an education of over 12 million for your 4 children.

R3garding churches creating industries- Personally, I think schools are more important than industries in the grand scheme of things. They churn out employable graduates who can think outside the box, who can create several industries with the right mindset.

DrayZee:
These people asking the church for industries, please just name some of the "industries" that would be appropriate to be built by a church.
Should the church begin to manufacture steel? Or assemble cars? Or sell cement?
Really, what do you people want? Or is it that you people just feel like typing?

Catholic is running a vitamin A cassava farm in my home town. And it benefit the poor

And they have a filling station

DrayZee:
Abeg, jet no concern me here, ehn. Now, you mean it is viable to tell a Christian congregation to donate money towards upgrade of schools where cultism, prostitution and corruption abound. Along with the fact that there is no way the church can have authority over the occurrences on campus. Is that really logical

Upgrade is in many forms. If a church set up a security or logistic outfit , rehaps for cultists and prostitutes, to help tackle cultism in universities thats something. If they are interested improving existing universities they will achieve it.

princfred:
That is wrong of them so should christians emulate them?

Christians are not emulating them, rather they are the ones trying albeit weakly to emulate us. There is not missionary university that is profit driven in it registration.
Every revenue raised in the missionary sch, is plunged back to the sch because investment in education never ends. I'm running a doctorate program in Uniport and I had to visit a lecturer at covenant university for clarification. In a chat with the lecturer, she said she was lured from a university in the UK, and cannot work in a govt funded university in Nigeria. The one week I spent in covenant I did not see power go off.

CoolAmbience:
What is your point?

I just said that there isn't anything wrong with the Church creating wealth and jobs, simple.

More efforts in that regard is expected in the face of rising unemployment and restiveness among the youths.

What do you mean by 'exposed to the public', is it something that should be kept a secret? If it is done in the open, then the public is privy already.

Importantly, the ostentatious lifestyles of some of these clergymen go a long way in spurring these negative perceptions too.

Who do we blame for this?

I say exposed to the public in the sense that if the media doesn't report it, a vast majority of the populace won't know about it.
I don't care about the pastors lifestyle. They'll receive full repercussions for all their actions.
My point and business here is, you can't run a privately funded university cheap (or free) and that the universities are actually involved in minor aspects of industrialization. That's all.

Inricash:
You guys are typing out of ignorance...


Fahlz said the bitter truth without any sugar coating...


You mention cost of running a University as maybe a profit making venture not as a missionary..


Those missionaries that came to preach the gospel had several secondary school they ran for free, which one is your church running for free? And in your comparison to Government, ask yourself if the government is not also struggling to fund Secondary or even primary schools....


How do you even Justify fees in excess of a million or two in a bid to Justify the Church...

The missionary schools were not free. That's why Jakande took them over.

worlexy:
Why not let's finish talking about the issue you raised first before we talk about other things

"Whites had real missionary schools and people didnt have to apply to lecture without salary for theirs to be tuition free"

Back this claim up with facts, just mention any missionary university in the world that is free

I did not say universities i said schools. And i can mention lots of free primary and secondary schools by missionaries . Can you for thesame by your modern day black pastors?

If the church wants to imbibe discipline and godliness in youths, do you really think building universities is the best?
At the end of the day, no,matter how way ward I am, I still find myself going back to the teachings I received from my primary and secondary education. Why don't dey build more primary and secondary schools that can be (maybe almost) free. That way, everyone can be guided by the perfect law of the Christ.

Build good schools in villages (like all those missionary schools) and see less yahoo boys, waec frauds e.t.c

DrayZee:
Wow. You purposefully blinded yourself to the fact that they're always talking about missionaries and their free secondary schools. I'm simply asking, since those missionaries are the reason you think universities should be free, why couldn't they make their own universities free ehn or cheap?
I don't believe prayer solves problems. So there. Stop generalizing.

Why do churches build uni at first place if not to secure thier wealth or enhance it...did christ come for the rich alone because it seems the gospel is only for people who can afford the tuition... Why the poor seat at home hearing it...why own private jet when 90% of the citizen are hungry ...cant all churches co.e together and use thier wealth ti raise the economy i bet if the di so many traditionalist will sed ressons to convert

phetto:
Catholic is running a vitamin A cassava farm in my home town. And it benefit the poor

And they have a filling station

That's reasonable.
Landmark University runs commercial agriculture, and where does the produce go to? The environs of Omu Aran. Who does it help? The people of Omu Aran.

CodeTemplar:
You are the one parading ignorance here.
Let me try tracing it from the church to the poor for you.
The church schools and are established to deliver a certain standard of education which has its own level of required funding. Now let's say that funding translate to # 10, 000 per student per year.

The church can't pay 10,000 for all student so decide to pay for only those they can through à scholarship arrangement that targets a blend of the best and the poor. After covering those within their immediate capacity they open the floor for best(academically) who can afford the whole 10,000 on their own.

This is the reality for most church unis but people don't want to hear that. They think the church is their government. As long as the government receives your tax the government is the sole provider of every other things you share in common with nonbelievers.

You talk of taxes when church followers pay tithes (one-tenth of their monthly earnings) every month, besides the weekly and bi-weekly offering contributions they make. What is that if not tax!?

Churches build schools with money collected from the poor. Rich kids can afford the schools but don't go to church. Poor kids can not afford the school but they go to church.

HigherEd:
It is sad that once again a Nigerian who ought to be a responsible mentor for Nigerian youths has towed the unfortunate path of Ignorance. In his recent music video, Fahlz called out Nigerian Churches for building universities with money of the poor yet made it unavailable for the poor due to "expensive" tuition.

This is one of the numerous emotional blackmail that churches in Nigeria are being subjected to. It is sad because one wonders if much of these accusers even realise what it takes to fund a mediocre university not to talk of a good one. In much of these debates and attacks against churches, most seem to abandon the facts rather they go feed on the lies and propaganda against the church which is an easy target because most churches rightly do not have PR teams or many individuals knowledgeable enough to defend them.

How Much Does It Cost To Run A Nigerian University
We would be using federal and state universities as a guide here due to the unavailability of data from mission universities.
In their underfunded states, the University of Ibadan's annual wage bill stands at 800 million naira/month translating to 10 billion naira/annum. Capital allocation to the university also stands at 1 billion naira/annum. While Tetfund's annual allocation stands at 2 billion naira per annum. Therefore all FG induced funding stands at 13 billion naira for a total number of 29,783 students which put total FG subsidy of UI at N437,000.00 per annum. This is excluding the IGR made by the university.
State universities on the other hand have a typical wage bill profile of about 5 billion a year. Example would be the likes of Lautech and EkSu with 390> million naira and 450 million naira as wage bill respectively.

If Governments are finding it hard to fund universities how would fahlz expect churches to do so exclusively?
Until recently Lautech was enmeshed in a serie of Industrial actions which was a result of the two owner state's inability to pay subvention for the university. Adekunle Ajasin on the other hand witnessed an internal crisis when state government had to hike the fees students where paying. All these are testament to the fact that university education is severely expensive to fund. So the intelligent questions that Fahlz should be asking is how state governments funded with Oil revenue, Compulsory Tax and a predictable income regime are finding it nearly impossible to properly fund single universities across their various states. Not why should churches who are funded by Voluntary donations and a nonconsistent income regime must fund free education.

There Are No Free Church Universities Anywhere In The World.
While most of the advocates of free church university education are quick to cite old missionaries as the reason why today's church must give free education it is curious as to why they refuse to cite free church universities in adavanced nations of the world today which currently practices free education. They cunningly make it sound as though tuition fees was invented by Nigerian pastors. But it is indeed far from the truth. The fact is that majority of the conventional churches across the globe funded or founded by churches charge way higher than their counterparts in Nigerian universities. Exceptions would be made of university cum seminaries which are usually also funded by churches.

"Church Universities Are Funded By The Poor" - A lie invented by Mischievous individuals
Half truths are equal to lies, to say that church universities are funded by the poor is to insinuate that they are exclusively funded by them. But that would be a lie because the obvious truth is that they are equally funded by the rich and middle class who in some cases don't even bother applying. Much of these self appointed advocates of the poor are in the reality hypocrites using poor people as a pawn in a dirty war game against the church.
University education is expensive everywhere and where it is free someone must be paying for it. Many of the hyocritic advocates of the poor make it seem as though poor people sell off their inheritances to gift to churches so as to build schools "that are for the rich". But in reality what most church members give to churches or university donations are negligible funds such as 50 - 500 naira. How many 50/100 naira notes are you going to pull together to replace one 800,000 required to educate one kid?


Nigerian Churches Should Continue Their Good works In The Higher Education Sector And Ignore Detractors.
The fact of the matter is that Nigerian churches provided over 30 universities which has given thousands of Nigerian youths the opportunity to study in a country with one of the lowest university per populations in the world. They've done that and have equally saved Nigeria millions in foreign exchange which erstwhile was lost to education tourism. They've funded researches in millions, owned research institutes which helped in curbing infectious disease and now even one now has a startup laboratory.


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HigherEd:
It is sad that once again a Nigerian who ought to be a responsible mentor for Nigerian youths has towed the unfortunate path of Ignorance. In his recent music video, Fahlz called out Nigerian Churches for building universities with money of the poor yet made it unavailable for the poor due to "expensive" tuition.

This is one of the numerous emotional blackmail that churches in Nigeria are being subjected to. It is sad because one wonders if much of these accusers even realise what it takes to fund a mediocre university not to talk of a good one. In much of these debates and attacks against churches, most seem to abandon the facts rather they go feed on the lies and propaganda against the church which is an easy target because most churches rightly do not have PR teams or many individuals knowledgeable enough to defend them.

How Much Does It Cost To Run A Nigerian University
We would be using federal and state universities as a guide here due to the unavailability of data from mission universities.
In their underfunded states, the University of Ibadan's annual wage bill stands at 800 million naira/month translating to 10 billion naira/annum. Capital allocation to the university also stands at 1 billion naira/annum. While Tetfund's annual allocation stands at 2 billion naira per annum. Therefore all FG induced funding stands at 13 billion naira for a total number of 29,783 students which put total FG subsidy of UI at N437,000.00 per annum. This is excluding the IGR made by the university.
State universities on the other hand have a typical wage bill profile of about 5 billion a year. Example would be the likes of Lautech and EkSu with 390> million naira and 450 million naira as wage bill respectively.

If Governments are finding it hard to fund universities how would fahlz expect churches to do so exclusively?
Until recently Lautech was enmeshed in a serie of Industrial actions which was a result of the two owner state's inability to pay subvention for the university. Adekunle Ajasin on the other hand witnessed an internal crisis when state government had to hike the fees students where paying. All these are testament to the fact that university education is severely expensive to fund. So the intelligent questions that Fahlz should be asking is how state governments funded with Oil revenue, Compulsory Tax and a predictable income regime are finding it nearly impossible to properly fund single universities across their various states. Not why should churches who are funded by Voluntary donations and a nonconsistent income regime must fund free education.

There Are No Free Church Universities Anywhere In The World.
While most of the advocates of free church university education are quick to cite old missionaries as the reason why today's church must give free education it is curious as to why they refuse to cite free church universities in adavanced nations of the world today which currently practices free education. They cunningly make it sound as though tuition fees was invented by Nigerian pastors. But it is indeed far from the truth. The fact is that majority of the conventional churches across the globe funded or founded by churches charge way higher than their counterparts in Nigerian universities. Exceptions would be made of university cum seminaries which are usually also funded by churches.

"Church Universities Are Funded By The Poor" - A lie invented by Mischievous individuals
Half truths are equal to lies, to say that church universities are funded by the poor is to insinuate that they are exclusively funded by them. But that would be a lie because the obvious truth is that they are equally funded by the rich and middle class who in some cases don't even bother applying. Much of these self appointed advocates of the poor are in the reality hypocrites using poor people as a pawn in a dirty war game against the church.
University education is expensive everywhere and where it is free someone must be paying for it. Many of the hyocritic advocates of the poor make it seem as though poor people sell off their inheritances to gift to churches so as to build schools "that are for the rich". But in reality what most church members give to churches or university donations are negligible funds such as 50 - 500 naira. How many 50/100 naira notes are you going to pull together to replace one 800,000 required to educate one kid?


Nigerian Churches Should Continue Their Good works In The Higher Education Sector And Ignore Detractors.
The fact of the matter is that Nigerian churches provided over 30 universities which has given thousands of Nigerian youths the opportunity to study in a country with one of the lowest university per populations in the world. They've done that and have equally saved Nigeria millions in foreign exchange which erstwhile was lost to education tourism. They've funded researches in millions, owned research institutes which helped in curbing infectious disease and now even one now has a startup laboratory.


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is it by force for churches to own universities or schools? I know you will say they're building better equipped schools for sound education. True, but it's inhumane for you collect monies from the less privilege in the name of building university and at the end these ppl can't send their children to the schools. If maintenance would be hard for these churches, don't build the schools in the first place.

stagger:
Nothing is free in this world. The missionary schools were paid for by contributions and funding from the parent churches abroad. The aim of missionary education was to produce literates who could administer the govt and business structures the colonialists had on ground. How would the colonialists have run their administrations, courts, police forces, etc, if not from having locals who could speak and write English and so form a bridge between the colonial powers and the local people?

You need to have some common sense mister. What has the white man ever given you for FREE?

Germany, Finland, some other European countries run free education. Somethings are free bro.

loswhite:
Every body is talking about free education...lol. what is the relationship between expensive tuition and free education? Of does it mean when something is less expensive it is automatically free?
My question is how was it possible for the missionaries to run standard secondary schools back in the days for free?

It's about making it accessible to those who have contributed or not taking money from them for this particular project. Either don't ask for offering for the university from the poor or use the money in part for something they can actually benefit from.

I don't get why some people are trying to defend the wrong thing. Has their religion clouded their sense of justice that much?

Even Jesus scattered the temple when it was taken over by money changers. There are lots of parallels between that temple and it's so called religious leaders and today's church in Nigeria and elsewhere.

falz is a waftid

no one is talking about the line in falz lyrics.. crusade for nyt, in your small salary you pay your tithes come go holiday abroad hin de robust private jet is about to land

HigherEd:
You ask why churches build universities? That I'm sorry to say is very funny. The churches build universities to be able to pass the Christian ordinance into a youthful population. Having the opportunity to teach students the ways of God under the platform of secular education is too great an opportunity to pass by. To correct ills of the society by taking folks at their formative stage and serving as an incubation for their developments into morally equipped individuals with reverence and knowledge of God.

Now churches have been building universities even before the person who named Nigeria was born and even preceded the US government and European nations to establish them. The Harvard's, Yale, Notre dame, yonsei would never have existed without the church.



As per industry the church has no mandate in it. Why should the church build industries? To create wealth - it is not the role of the church to create wealth, To provide jobs - It is not the role of the church to provide jobs. Unlike Universities, industries don't serve any relevance to the mandate of the church or her gospel. Let Kings remain kings and priest remain priest.

The church continues to have a mandate in creating schools(especially primary and secondary), Orphanages, Rehabs and Hospitals. Skill acquisitions for members is ok, building income generating companies is taking it too far.



No church university in Nigeria today is for profit making. The most expensive one, Babcock is subsidized by 2% of her total budget by the adventist church. Apostolic church gives Crawford 350 million subsidy every year, CU gets above 2 billion grants from winners every year. Landmark has gotten 6 billion in the past few years(I can go on!)



Are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Yonsei, Notre dame affordable to the poor? Shouldn't they have been created(by the church) because the poor couldn't afford them? Do you even know the purpose of creating universities. You think it is to share admission for people. Do you know the poor too would benefit most when the universities turn out great research, discoveries and product for the benefit of society?


Mockery? You sir are beginning to spout nonsense. The church universities which have run uninterrupted academic calendars, housed students like actual human beings, provided amenities the govt can't provide are suddenly the ones who are making a mockery of education. To take it further you are quite confused also. You just accused the church of profit mongering after slandering them for not investing in industries which are huge money spinners. It is safe to assume you would end up accusing the church of anything your imagination can create if they actually go into building industries. I know your type sir you would also accuse the church of building car industries with money of the poor while the poor can't afford it. Abi what are we supposed to do when we build cars that the poor can't afford. We should share the cars for free abi. After all with una thinking the church receives tithe and should be able to share free cars it produces

stop talking trash. Missionaries that came to Africa build thousands of schools which where run free of any charge. Which one has the church built for free? Churches have various means of multimillion income so what stops them from taking from their other sources of income to run universities owned by them to enable the poor amongst them who contributed to the building of these universities to send their kids there? Truth they always say is bitter and the bitter truth is what Falz spat out.
Even if they must charge any money, is there anything wrong in giving scholarships to the poor among them or drastically reducing what a certain class of people among them have to pay?

gregyboy:
Why do churches build uni at first place if not to secure thier wealth or enhance it...did christ come for the rich alone because it seems the gospel is only for people who can afford the tuition... Why the poor seat at home hearing it...why own private jet when 90% of the citizen are hungry ...cant all churches co.e together and use thier wealth ti raise the economy i bet if the di so many traditionalist will sed ressons to convert

Why are you bringing me consistently into a conversation I didn't talk about. Jet is not my business. Ahh.

Look, some things just can't happen. You're a human. If you feel that's what needs to be done, then advocate for it and bring the churches together. Don't come here saying you want a private university to be free. It's just not possible. Is the money for maintainance falling from heaven?
That's my take.

DrayZee:
I choose to use my brain instead of ranting uninformed.
YOU should be ashamed of yourself. You came here pouring insults up and down, one would think you had something reasonable to say. All your replies, empty, and now you ended with further insults. Obviously, you had no point from the beginning.

If you are open-minded, based on those posts I quoted and those I countered, you'll know my point. I don't need to write an epistle before I make my points CLEAR. It's only unintelligent folks like you that find it hard to see my point.

N. B: I still stand on my other point that you are not wise!!

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slydog:
Christians are not emulating them, rather they are the ones trying albeit weakly to emulate us. There is not missionary university that is profit driven in it registration.
Every revenue raised in the missionary sch, is plunged back to the sch because investment in education never ends. I'm running a doctorate program in Uniport and I had to visit a lecturer at covenant university for clarification. In a chat with the lecturer, she said she was lured from a university in the UK, and cannot work in a govt funded university in Nigeria. The one week I spent in covenant I did not see power go off.

if only our govt could start here at least. Whether we like it or not some sort of kudos has to be given to the church

BiggyB242:
Germany, Finland, some other European countries run free education. Somethings are free bro.

I think Sweden too and when my 3 elder sisters went to university in the UK tuition was free for them. When I was in my third year they introduced means tested contributions to university fees, although now it's a set yearly fee.

Inricash:
You guys are typing out of ignorance...


Fahlz said the bitter truth without any sugar coating...


You mention cost of running a University as maybe a profit making venture not as a missionary..


Those missionaries that came to preach the gospel had several secondary school they ran for free, which one is your church running for free? And in your comparison to Government, ask yourself if the government is not also struggling to fund Secondary or even primary schools....


How do you even Justify fees in excess of a million or two in a bid to Justify the Church...

secondary school and university no be the same oga stop shifting the argument in most countries secondary school education is free even in naija too stop this your black mentality of free things .How many staffs does a secondary school have compared to a university ? Most secondary school staffs are not even up to 50-100 in total I don't want to know the amount of students ,but for a university we are talking of hundreds each faculty non teaching academic staffs even our own government universities now some pay close to 200k so what is it

DrayZee:
I say exposed to the public in the sense that if the media doesn't report it, a vast majority of the populace won't know about it.
I don't care about the pastors lifestyle. They'll receive full repercussions for all their actions.
My point and business here is, you can't run a privately funded university cheap (or free) and that the universities are actually involved in minor aspects of industrialization. That's all.

Then run something else less costly to uplift the poor who contribute. How does it makes sense to collect their money to build something they don't benefit from? If whites do that to you, you will be making noise now your fellow blacks do that but are saints for it.