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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Lalas247(f): 6:38pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Dem don turn thread to fight.

Man's out!
come bk jot make we debate .. was actuaw enjoying it
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Amarabae(f): 6:38pm On May 27, 2018
mhisbliss:
Good thing you said there about not being able to study a baby's sexual orientation, because they're not intelligent to the point of knowing what sex is all about at that age, when people get mad, you cant easily cure them, thats how homosexuality is, its a mental problem, we're talking about homosexuals and excluding those who're stuck in between gay and straight, they're bi sexual, what would you say about such people? They're two people in one body? One is into guys and another is into girls? These are the rare oddities you get to see in nature
You really believe in the stuff called bisexual?
I don't.
It's either a guy is straight or gay.
A bisexual guy is a gay just trying to pretend as straight.
.
All the same, the focus should be on how homosexuality can be eradicated in a person if really it is abnormal.
Any suggestion
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by UDUJ(m): 6:39pm On May 27, 2018
OneSentence:
the first thing we must all accept is that it is an abnormality irrespective of the cause, whether a person is born like that or whether it's by exposure or genetic...it is an abnormality. it might not be a person's fault that he/she is like that but it is a deviation from the norm.

The bold faced, that's just what I've been waiting to read. Good one smiley

Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by hopefulLandlord: 6:40pm On May 27, 2018
mhisbliss

to answer your question

"gay people can't have anal sex with females, it makes them not gay, why is that? An anus is an anus right?"

Actually they can have anal sex with females, they just don't derive pleasure from it (from indications)

however this question doesn't answer my question at all cuz my question was derived from your using reproductive sex as natural sex which anal sex doesn't fall under

in the post I quoted you argued for reproduction and companionship

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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Draei: 6:41pm On May 27, 2018
Amarabae:

Well you can't study a child sexual behaviorials until they enter into teenage age.
Then from teenage age you can judge.
There is no way you can study a child of 10years down of this stuff.
When homosexuals say that the feeling started from birth, I think they mean that when they became conscious of the sexual being in them, they discover that they do have affection for the same gender.
.
If homosexuality is unnatural, then it can be easily stopped
But many of them just can't stop it, I suspect something natural to it.
I may be wrong
Really, many of them can't put a stop to it? That's fallacy. They can't put a stop to it and yet many of them are scared of making a public statement about their unreasonable sex life.

You see armed robbery, homicide, rape, etc, you see them as what, unnatural and can be halted right? but you see homosexuality as natural which cannot be stopped by most of these psychologically impaired beings? okay ride on.
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by IamPlato(m): 6:42pm On May 27, 2018
Lalas247:

like a woman will carry child for 9 months and be saying yup this child gonna be gay .. even she doesn't know the future if the child ..
why is it called coming out .. cause they later discover hang on.. I like asshole Berra ..that's not natural from birth..
was slavery natural ? no people who felt superior decided they need cheap labour ... what do that do..get chains
like someone saying we were born slaves if that's the case and it was natural why ain't we all picking cotton ...
if u want to be gay be gay no one cares .. but don't say I was Born Gay no such thing ...
...


Thats The Point There Dear. You Cant Be Born Gay
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by mhisbliss(f): 6:43pm On May 27, 2018
Safiaa:
Okay. They’re some individuals from childhood, they’re sexually attracted to males. The same ‘natural’ feeling that you have as a child to be attracted to a female, when you play kiss and chase in the playground with your female classmates, are the same natural feelings they have towards a male. They grow up from a very young age feeling different from the norm. This is before the influence of society, environments or anything. To be sincere how could society influence homosexuality, especially in Nigeria where everything is totally against it? Why would a child choose to be homosexual when there’s so much stigma agaisnt gay people in our culture? So how do we describe this unnatural case? It’s a feeling that they cannot necessarily control.
You start getting sexual awareness from your adolescent age and above, and it's just the basics like this one is a girl and this one is a guy, but not when you're a toddler, theres every clear indication you're classifying effeminate people, crossdressers and homosexuals as same and its not what you should be doing,

He shows female attributes doesn't mean he's gay, hormones are solely responsible for effeminacy, oestrogen in guys give them female attributes like busts and bums, but spermatozoa in girls give them manish behaviors, beard and what not, would you classify them as gay too?

You know someone is gay when he or she is attracted to someone of same sex, they know who is gay just by looking at that person, why is that? Is it because of thier natural reproductive instinct? Despite the stigma against them they Still do it on a low key, that feeling is coercing them to, and that feeling is not from birth, it was absorbed at some point from the people around them and it got worse because it wasn't tackled at infancy

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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Amarabae(f): 6:44pm On May 27, 2018
Draei:

Really, many of them can't put a stop to it? That's fallacy. They can't put a stop to it and yet many of them are scared of making a public statement about their unreasonable sex life.

You see armed robbery, homicide, rape, etc, you see them as what, unnatural and can be halted right? but you see homosexuality as natural which cannot be stopped by most of these psychologically impaired beings? okay ride on.
Well I am talking from what I have seen.
Homosexuals find it hard to stop it.
Some of them even continue doing it even after marrying an opposite gender.

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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Nobody: 6:46pm On May 27, 2018
LivingFree:
Dead on arrival grin

Dead on arrival.
with a full stop.
Thank me later.
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by mhisbliss(f): 6:47pm On May 27, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
mhisbliss

to answer your question

"gay people can't have anal sex with females, it makes them not gay, why is that? An anus is an anus right?"

Actually they can have anal sex with females, they just don't derive pleasure from it (from indications)

however this question doesn't answer my question at all cuz my question was derived from your using reproductive sex as natural sex which anal sex doesn't fall under

in the post I quoted you argued for reproduction and companionship
Why are they not deriving pleasure? Is it not the same anus?

Your answer is in the question itself, our primary aim of having sex is reproduction, MR NIGER D in secondary school, remember? Pleasure is our secondary aim, the anus is not structured to accommodate a penis nor is it designed for sex or reproduction, homosexuals are fully aware of that, yet they insist its the only way they can have sex, is that not a mental problem?
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by N0favors: 6:48pm On May 27, 2018
Lalas247:

no one is born Gay...
so many reason. why people opt for that lifestyle..

rape
insecurities
social media
society
the list is endless

look if tomorrow killing becomes legal ..some will say they knew they were murderers from birth

I want someone to tell me how a fetus knows its gay ?
mist gays will tell you they first had an encounter with the opposite sex and found nah they are not attracted..

its a preference same as doing anal, banging while she is on her reds, some like ass .. some like breast ..some like skinny some like fat..

it is not determine when u come into this world what you are.. we make that choice !
we have transexual here jack .. what do they always say in Docs.. when I was 5 my mum dress me in pink I knee I was meant to be a girl ..
go to Thailand that osome lot to be lady boys why .. is very lucrative business you think they came out of the womb knowing they will be Gay or Trans ...
I have gays n tranny living next to me .. the tranny told me its due to bullying he she didn't say when I was a baby I knew I was going to be a trans ..dafuq
@bold perfectly put. It's just preference.

Some of these gays even get married and make babies only to come out later to say they are gays. Doesn't that show something went wrong somewhere along the line?

Is eating shït natural? Is it natural for a carnivore to eat grass? No! But some do. Is it natural for some animals to eat other animal of same specie? No! But some do. The fact all these abnormal things happens doesn't make them natural. Something went wrong

I understand it's there choice and I have no problem with that but I won't accept it's natural
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Nobody: 6:49pm On May 27, 2018
Safiaa:
Okay. They’re some individuals from childhood, they’re sexually attracted to males. The same ‘natural’ feeling that you have as a child to be attracted to a female, when you play kiss and chase in the playground with your female classmates, are the same natural feelings they have towards a male. They grow up from a very young age feeling different from the norm. This is before the influence of society, environments or anything. To be sincere how could society influence homosexuality, especially in Nigeria where everything is totally against it? Why would a child choose to be homosexual when there’s so much stigma agaisnt gay people in our culture? So how do we describe this unnatural case? It’s a feeling that they cannot necessarily control.

Let me tell you of an angle where males tend to have feminine characteristics right from childhood. Aside the fact that some peeps may grow up in a household predominantly females making them the only son in such family, this doesn't necessarily makes them gay in future. There are cases where mothers go through spiritual length to turn the sex of a child to male.

Once they get pregnant and signs have shown that it is "another" female, they will involve native practices to turn the sex of a child to male. The child will be born male but his chararcteristics will be essentially female. Even the choice of colors, things he will be drawn to as toys will be feminine. In some very intense cases, his voice will be feminine too. I have seen such cases very well.

Some cases people seek children from certain sources in their quest to escape barrenness instead of waiting on Gods time, and nothing the devil gives will be as that which God gives.

There is also this idea where certain women go to meet native practises either when the child has a terminal illness or whatever. Those concoctions those people mix are evil and for the moment will cure or remedy whatever cases but it's effect will tell in future. This how some peoples soul become corrupted and thus become possessed.

It is better a person's child dies from whatever ailment,sickness or deformity than for the person to involve native practices to save the live of such child. It's more like giving the devil the body to put in his own evil source to sustain the life of the child. The moment one does so, that which was from God has left such child. Therefore, such child can come up with all sort of characters that deviate from the norm.
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Lalas247(f): 6:49pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
@bold perfectly put. It's just preference.

Some of these gays even get married and make babies only to come out later to say they are gays. Doesn't that show something went wrong somewhere along the line?

Is eating shït natural? Is it natural for a carnivore to eat grass? No! But some do. Is it natural for some animals to eat other animal of same specie? No! But some do. The fact all these abnormal things happens doesn't make them natural. Something went wrong

I understand it's there choice and I have no problem with that but I won't accept it's natural
exactly ....
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by N0favors: 6:49pm On May 27, 2018
iamJ:
same here but if we see our brother that likes it the other way around we should let him be and not say he is mad
Bro, I don't think I'll like to be close friend with any gay. I'll rather keep them far away to avoid stories that touch
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by N0favors: 6:50pm On May 27, 2018
Lalas247:

come bk jot make we debate .. was actuaw enjoying it
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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by mhisbliss(f): 6:50pm On May 27, 2018
Amarabae:

You really believe in the stuff called bisexual?
I don't.
It's either a guy is straight or gay.
A bisexual guy is a gay just trying to pretend as straight.
.
All the same, the focus should be on how homosexuality can be eradicated in a person if really it is abnormal.
Any suggestion
Yes they're bisexual people just like transgenders.

It can be curtailed from infancy, when we stop the stigmatization and allow them to come out openly, you'll realize theres more of them than we thought, this way we can treat it as a mental problem, therapy and education
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by FluidQueen(f): 6:51pm On May 27, 2018
IamPlato:
...


Who Can Answer This?



Why Do Guys Feel Comfortable Watching Lesbian Sex But Feel Uncomfortable Watching Gay Sex? Yet We Stand Against Homosexuality
hypo-fuckingcrisy!
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Draei: 6:52pm On May 27, 2018
Amarabae:

Well I am talking from what I have seen.
Homosexuals find it hard to stop it.
Some of them even continue doing it even after marrying an opposite gender.
Same way some find masturbation hard to stop. Still doesn't make it natural a bit. It's just a chronic psychological habit that needs to be stopped either by proper counseling or threat(law)
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Lalas247(f): 6:52pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Back
can I ask this... be honest
if you have a son that decides he wants to be Gay how will you take it..
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by N0favors: 6:54pm On May 27, 2018
Lalas247:

can I ask this... be honest
if you have a son that decides he wants to be Gay his will you take it..
Okay I know this sounds terrible but honestly, the day I figure he's gay is the day he leaves my house or I leave for him
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Henkor: 6:55pm On May 27, 2018
mhisbliss:
You're welcome.

Firstly I'd love to point it out that unnatural in this case means "Not in accordance with Nature, artificial, typical, abnormal, aberrant, vicarious and freakish.

We were born with sex organs that are designed to complement each other, we're normally wired to be attracted to members of the opposite sex for companionship and reproduction, in a case where an individual start getting attracted to a member of same sex it becomes unnatural.

Sorry for the delay.

Based on your response, if by homosexuality being unnatural you mean it not being in accordance with nature, it then begs the question of your notion of what it means for something to be in accordance with nature. You seem to forget that nature is incredibly diverse and it manifests in a plethora of ways. Not only do complex organisms like ourselves and other life forms that comprise nature manifest an array of traits, there is also variation within the manifestation of a particular trait. How then can you separate natural traits from unnatural traits, especially bearing in mind all the factors that influence the flourishing of particular traits in a given environment, most of which are externally mediated?

I think the problem is that you seem to be construing the predominance of a behavior as an indication of it being natural, while you construe other variations of that behavior that aren't as prevalent, as unnatural. This couldn't be further from the truth in my estimation. Is heterosexuality the only natural expression of human sexuality? How about asexuality? Are people who aren't naturally attracted to either sex abnormal? What you fail to realize is that variations within behaviors ALWAYS exist, and of course some variations aid the proliferation of a species, but this doesn't make them the only natural form of expression. This notion erroneously assumes that nature tilts towards the sustenance of life, which also isn't true, as nature is inherently self contradictory and most of the time moves to destroy itself, as is evidenced by natural disasters and deadly viruses. I mean, would you say cancer is unnatural since it doesn't aid the perpetuation of the human race? Or are sexually transmitted diseases unnatural since they are by their very nature against sexual reproduction?

If heterosexuality is natural, then are all various forms of it also natural? By your definition, all variations of heterosexual behavior are in fact natural. So an attraction to the opposite sex that's fueled by a desire to rape and abuse during copulation is also natural right? The desire of a man to have sex with a 12 year old girl is also natural right, since it falls within heterosexuality?

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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by iamJ(m): 6:55pm On May 27, 2018
Safiaa:
Okay. They’re some individuals from childhood, they’re sexually attracted to males. The same ‘natural’ feeling that you have as a child to be attracted to a female, when you play kiss and chase in the playground with your female classmates, are the same natural feelings they have towards a male. They grow up from a very young age feeling different from the norm. This is before the influence of society, environments or anything. To be sincere how could society influence homosexuality, especially in Nigeria where everything is totally against it? Why would a child choose to be homosexual when there’s so much stigma agaisnt gay people in our culture? So how do we describe this unnatural case? It’s a feeling that they cannot necessarily control.
gbam tell them
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by FluidQueen(f): 6:55pm On May 27, 2018
mhisbliss:
Yes they're bisexual people just like transgenders.

It can be curtailed from infancy, when we stop the stigmatization and allow them to come out openly, you'll realize theres more of them than we thought, this way we can treat it as a mental problem, therapy and education
mental problem?


Seriously, dude... Who made you queen of all things homosexuality?

It's ludicrous and plain contradictory how straight, Clueless folks think they got homosexuality all figured out.
You don't know the struggle.
You don't know shit.
You need to read more. Enlighten yourself.
You need to surround yourself with queer people and ask them if they 'CHOSE' to be gay.
Pick up a book bruh. REAAAAAAAD!

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Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by hopefulLandlord: 6:56pm On May 27, 2018
mhisbliss:
Why are they not deriving pleasure? Is it not the same anus?

Your answer is in the question itself, our primary aim of having sex is reproduction, MR NIGER D in secondary school, remember? Pleasure is our secondary aim, the anus is not structured to accommodate a penis nor is it designed for sex or reproduction, homosexuals are fully aware of that, yet they insist its the only way they can have sex, is that not a mental problem?

apologies I didn't chose my words as carefully as I should

What I meant by primarily is that overwhelming majority of sex that is had everyday is done by couples who don't intend to reproduce from it which is why even couples use birth control methods as they like the pleasure but don't want the possible reproduction. This is why prostitution is everywhere and sex or its promises are used to obtain advantage over others.
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by iamJ(m): 6:56pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Okay I know this sounds terrible but honestly, the day I figure he's gay is the day he leaves my house or I leave for him
burst my belle, if it's ur daughter that's pregnant what will you do? We know ur answer u see how bias u're
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Lalas247(f): 6:56pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Okay I know this sounds terrible but honestly, the day I figure he's gay is the day he leaves my house or I leave for him
for real? deep
but like your honesty.... most so t tolerate it either
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by FluidQueen(f): 6:57pm On May 27, 2018
Amarabae:

You really believe in the stuff called bisexual?
I don't.
It's either a guy is straight or gay.
A bisexual guy is a gay just trying to pretend as straight.
.
All the same, the focus should be on how homosexuality can be eradicated in a person if really it is abnormal.
Any suggestion
I do because I'm a living proof. undecided


This people!
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by mhisbliss(f): 6:58pm On May 27, 2018
FluidQueen:
mental problem?


Seriously, dude... Who made you queen of all things homosexuality?

It's ludicrous and plain contradictory how straight, Clueless folks think they got homosexuality all figured out.
You don't know the struggle.
You don't know shit.
You need to read more. Enlighten yourself.
You need to surround yourself with queer people and ask them if they 'CHOSE' to be gay.
Pick up a book bruh. REAAAAAAAD!
Seems like you're screaming like a banshee with the REEAAAD cheesy

Enlighten me instead of assuming everyone is clueless just because you're clueless, how about that?
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by iamJ(m): 6:58pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Bro, I don't think I'll like to be close friend with any gay. I'll rather keep them far away to avoid stories that touch
hahahaha gays usually back away when u make it clear to them that ure not, they don't force and rape like men do cheesy


Abeg I'm not gay just trying to make a point biko
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by highqueen(f): 6:58pm On May 27, 2018
FluidQueen:
I do because I'm a living proof. undecided

This people!
jamariwolf!!!
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by FluidQueen(f): 6:59pm On May 27, 2018
Heterosexuals telling homosexuals what to do with their sexuality is just Amazing. grin


Y'all need to sleep abeg.
Re: A Conversation With Mhisbliss On The Subject Of Homosexuality. by Lalas247(f): 6:59pm On May 27, 2018
N0favors:
Okay I know this sounds terrible but honestly, the day I figure he's gay is the day he leaves my house or I leave for him
I think I will still accept in the long run...
but will still try my best to change it... make him see the light ..

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