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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:14am On Jun 24, 2018
Kog45:
Sir,Simy Nwankwo is not a high profile striker in Italy,not only in Italy even when he was in Portugal,his invitation was due to his performance in the latter end of the league.

7 goals striker in a season is not a high profile striker though i wish to see more of him cos of that moment against Congo.
it depends on what you call a high profile striker...
to me for a striker to have scored 7 goals for an average team in a league like seria A where you have some tough defenders...and even against juventus scored a CR7 kind of goal...tells alot about his abilities...

I rate him highly compare to Ighalo...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:20am On Jun 24, 2018
Odunayaw:
Ah! Some on here would be shaving Rohr for starting him
He is just being academic. It's not even in accord with commonsense. Musa scored the goal. That's all that matters!

The talk about 'doing things the right way' in this context is arid idealism.

Goal wey dem don score na im person dey bewail against saying a pass to Iheanacho is the right thing to do. What if Iheanacho misses?


This talk I must say with respect doesn't hold water.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:32am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I do not understand what you are saying. I said Rohr should talk to Musa about passing to someone in space next time. What is the bed in hand there?
'Passing would have increased our chance to score. Even though he scored, Musa took the harder and less safe option'

Gerrit?


This is the comment I responded to.

No coach with a whiff of intelligence in his brain will tell Musa to pass the ball in that situation next time.

If that situation plays out a million times Musa should play that ball and not pass to anybody. Did you not see him pause for a fraction of a second to pick his angle before shooting? Do you know that that was a 'moment'? Footballers can sense a goal moment and that was one!

The question you have not been able to answer is:what if he had passed then or even next time(as per the coach's instructions) and the person he passed to, misses? Such a crucial match fa. Kai


I read your one time (xavi interview if I recall correctly) that Gaurdiola though dictates everything his players do from their own box till into half of the opponents, he nevertheless gives his players total freedom to do whatever they like once they are in the 18 yard box of the opponent?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:41am On Jun 24, 2018
Mujtahida:

'Passing would have increased our chance to score. Even though he scored, Musa took the harder and less safe option'

Gerrit?


This is the comment I responded to.

No coach with a whiff of intelligence in his brain will tell Musa to pass the ball in that situation next time.

If that situation plays out a million times Musa should play that ball and not pass to anybody. Did you not see him pause for a fraction of a second to pick his angle before shooting? Do you know that that was a 'moment'? Footballers can sense a goal moment and that was one!

The question you have not been able to answer is:what if he passes then or even next time and the person he passed to, misses? Such a crucial match fa. Kai



A sane striker in such a position won't pass


Besides, those clamouring for him to pass to iheanacho,want d latter name to be registered with a goal in dis competition,maybe to spite ighalo cheesy cheesy grin grin,

Let him wait for his turn,he will score too cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:51am On Jun 24, 2018
Mujtahida:

'Passing would have increased our chance to score. Even though he scored, Musa took the harder and less safe option'

Gerrit?


This is the comment I responded to.

No coach with a whiff of intelligence in his brain will tell Musa to pass the ball in that situation next time.

If that situation plays out a million times Musa should play that ball and not pass to anybody. Did you not see him pause for a fraction of a second to pick his angle before shooting? Do you know that that was a 'moment'? Footballers can sense a goal moment and that was one!

The question you have not been able to answer is:what if he had passed then or even next time(as per the coach's instructions) and the person he passed to, misses? Such a crucial match fa. Kai


I read your one time (xavi interview if I recall correctly) that Gaurdiola though dictates everything his players do from their own box till into half of the opponents, he nevertheless gives his players total freedom to do whatever they like once they are in the 18 yard box of the opponent?

Look again and read the bolded. Then tell me passing is not the better option. Really.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:52am On Jun 24, 2018
elyte89:




A sane striker in such a position won't pass


Besides, those clamouring for him to pass to iheanacho,want d latter name to be registered with a goal in dis competition,maybe to spite ighalo cheesy cheesy grin grin,

Let him wait for his turn,he will score too cool

If that was Iheanacho with the ball, I would have preferred him to pass than shoot or dribble keeper. The team winning is more important than individual glory.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:55am On Jun 24, 2018
Humility017:

it depends on what you call a high profile striker...
to me for a striker to have scored 7 goals for an average team in a league like seria A where you have some tough defenders...and even against juventus scored a CR7 kind of goal...tells alot about his abilities...

I rate him highly compare to Ighalo...
My point is not Ighalo and Simy comparison
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:56am On Jun 24, 2018
elyte89:




A sane striker in such a position won't pass


Besides, those clamouring for him to pass to iheanacho,want d latter name to be registered with a goal in dis competition,maybe to spite ighalo cheesy cheesy grin grin,

Let him wait for his turn,he will score too cool
I sensed that undertone.

When that guy scored against athletico goodjoe did not come to say he should have passed the ball to his teammates..

Players do it all the time. Michael Owen's goal against Argentina at France 98 WC is one of the best goals ever scored in a WC. He could have passed. He didn't. The most important thing is that he scored. Finito!

The talk no even make sense to me one bit. Maradona goal's of the century, na so buruchagga and another Argentina player tanda for correct position to score but Maradona knew it was a goal moment. If he had passed the ball and buruchagga even scored, the world would have been denied the opportunity of seeing such a wonderful goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojL7p4vR8bU

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:58am On Jun 24, 2018
elyte89:




A sane striker in such a position won't pass


Besides, those clamouring for him to pass to iheanacho,want d latter name to be registered with a goal in dis competition,maybe to spite ighalo cheesy cheesy grin grin,

Let him wait for his turn,he will score too cool


Nigeria’s Kelechi Iheanacho played only the last seven minutes of Manchester City’s away league clash with Stoke City, but it was his assist that helped Nolito confirm victory for Pep Guardiola’s side.

Iheanacho worked the ball past two Stoke defenders before passing the ball to a teammate. When he received it back, he rounded goalkeeper Shay Given. However, with the ball to his weaker right foot, the angle acutely narrow and two defenders recovering to block the goal mouth, Iheanacho squared the ball to the better-placed Nolito, and the former Celta Vigo striker made no mistake from close range to move the scoreline to 3-1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2y1d2Ajeo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:59am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Look again and read the bolded. Then tell me passing is not the better option. Really.
Scoring is the better option even if that situation plays out a million times not passing.

I have made my point. I no dey for roundabout talk.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:00am On Jun 24, 2018
Mujtahida:

I sensed that undertone.

When that guy scored against athletico goodjoe did not come to say he should have passed the ball to his teammates..

Players do it all the time. Michael Owen's goal against Argentina at France 98 WC is one of the best goals ever scored in a WC. He could have passed. He didn't. The most important thing is that he scored. Finito!

The talk no even make sense to me one bit. Maradona goal's of the century, na so buruchagga and another Argentina player tanda for correct position to score but Maradona knew it was a goal moment. If he had passed the ball and buruchagga even scored, the world would have been denied the opportunity of seeing such a wonderful goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojL7p4vR8bU

Players do it all the time. That does not make it right. If there is a player in better position to score. No need shooting or skinning keeper. Pass to the person to score. Team glory beats individual glory.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01am On Jun 24, 2018
Mujtahida:

Scoring is the better option even if that situation plays out a million times not passing.

I have made my point. I no dey for roundabout talk.

Story.

picture is clear. Passing is the better option.

Finito.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:03am On Jun 24, 2018
Humility017:

it depends on what you call a high profile striker...
to me for a striker to have scored 7 goals for an average team in a league like seria A where you have some tough defenders...and even against juventus scored a CR7 kind of goal...tells alot about his abilities...

I rate him highly compare to Ighalo...
ighalo is our best striker ooo
the only thing i want him on the bench is because of his poor form

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:07am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe is becoming more of a British analyst who only see things from a single angle. He reminds me of a certain Michael Owen who played down one of Nacho's goals instead of praising his brilliance in taking that curler from outside the 18 yard box. He kept saying he should have passed to gray because he was better positioned.

Musa scored and that's all that matters. He did it in style and so deserves all the praise. No need to check and analyze an alternate route that does not guarantee a goal. What if he passed it to Nacho and while trying to hit it he shoots it against the defender/goalkeeper or even falls or Musa himself hits the pass to much and ends bouncing off Iheanacho's feet. Maybe that his when you would have appreciated Musa's ingenuity. That goal was class.

Finito(in TheGoodJoe's voice)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:07am On Jun 24, 2018
Icon4s:


Oga the picture you display here is not same scenario as what played out yesterday
How can someone make such a barren point and still have the mind to drag it even after many worthy interventions?

The lady of the house once said that some calling Rohr rigid are already bongafish themselves. Abeg help me with the meme of that coach wey dey clap his two hands. Na wa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:11am On Jun 24, 2018
AIG07:
TheGoodJoe is becoming more of a British analyst who only see things from a single angle. He reminds me of a certain Michael Owen who played down one of Nacho's goals instead of praising his brilliance in taking that curler from outside the 18 yard box. He kept saying he should have passed to gray because he was better positioned.

Musa scored and that's all that matters. He did it in style and so deserves all the praise. No need to check and analyze an alternate route that does not guarantee a goal. What if he passed it to Nacho and while trying to hit it he shoots it against the defender/goalkeeper or even falls or Musa himself hits the pass to much and ends bouncing off Iheanacho's feet. Maybe that his when you would have appreciated Musa's ingenuity. That goal was class.

Finito(in TheGoodJoe's voice)

I praised Musa for the goal and genuinely celebrated the win. I just said Rohr should work on Musa passing to the player in better option for next time sake. Just as we hammered on Moses to reduce his selfish play.

I wonder why something as simple as that should be a problem.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12am On Jun 24, 2018
Mujtahida:

How can someone make such a barren point and still have the mind to drag it even after many worthy interventions?

The lady of the house once said that some calling Rohr rigid are already bongafish themselves. Abeg help me with the meme of that coach wey dey clap his two hands. Na wa

Many worthy interventions thought Ighalo was the best thing since chin chin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:15am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I praised Musa for the goal and genuinely celebrated the win. I just said Rohr should work on Musa passing to the player in better option for next time sake. Just as we hammered on Moses to reduce his selfish play.

I wonder why something as simple as that should be a problem.
I'm sure he will make use of his instinct next time when he finds himself in a more tighter position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:15am On Jun 24, 2018
promzyphyno:
With due respect to everyone here,please what I am about to say should not be taken as a dig at some people but just my tiny observation.

Sometimes when we argue,its technically speaking not at the right time....i mean imagine arguing who didn't pass to who? We have a really important and massive game ahead of us and here we are thinking of what could have happened if some things happened the other way...we all clamoured for a win and got a win....."if i took road one and became rich,who cares what road two would have looked like?"

The truth about Musa's goals is that his striking instinct worked well,if you watched closely he even had to steal the first of his brace....for the second,Even messi most times finishes his solo runs .....let's just enjoy his courage. Because some times,you must not make the right decision to win games.


with this in mind,let's focus our energy on the next game cause this victory would mean nothing if we don't dispatch my beloved Messi and his country men.

Thank you!
I didn't even know that you have put your gavel to this sterile point being bandied around. Instincts is what I termed footballers sensing a goal moment. You just know you will score. Thanks Bro.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:17am On Jun 24, 2018
Joebie:
I’m an Ebuehi fan, but that performance yesterday was not “outstanding” at least I’m my opinion. Let’s leave it at that.

You are right, very right

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 8:19am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Story.

picture is clear. Passing is the better option.

Finito.
you are looking at this picture alone,, their are different angles you could have used.
1) the position of the defenders are not seen I this picture
2) the goal post is not seen, how do you now want to judge if anyone of them is in the right position.

Take a look this screenshot don't mind the quality. I feel Musa was still in the best position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:21am On Jun 24, 2018
charlesemeka85:
bros you dey talk sometimes like e get special players to you wey we no suppose criticize even when they shun out abysmal perforamnce. idowu with all due respect is the worst 9ja player in russia. dude is too lethargic to my liking and looks confused and scared with or without the ball. as a wingback one of his primary duties is to join the attack when the team is attacking and whip in crosses but i cant remember him crossing the other side of the pitch against croatia and iceland. his play looks too amateurish that sometimes i doubt if he is an european based player. -penalty blunders to happen to the best defenders in the world so an upcoming and promising one as ebuehi should not be an exception. no allow tribalism cloud your sense of reasoning and judgement
It's politically correct to always make the point at the bolded and you didn't let it pass you. Lame, very lame.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:23am On Jun 24, 2018
shogz89:
you are looking at this picture alone,, their are different angles you could have used.
1) the position of the defenders are not seen I this picture
2) the goal post is not seen, how do you now want to judge if anyone of them is in the right position.

Take a look this screenshot don't mind the quality. I feel Musa was still in the best position.
Baba just leave the point if not you will talk till saliva dry for your mouth on top of a point that is clear to everyone but him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:23am On Jun 24, 2018
shogz89:
you are looking at this picture alone,, their are different angles you could have used.
1) the position of the defenders are not seen I this picture
2) the goal post is not seen, how do you now want to judge if anyone of them is in the right position.

Take a look this screenshot don't mind the quality. I feel Musa was still in the best position.

Show tthis angle just before he beat the Goalkeeper and then tell me that passing was not the better solution. This thing is very basic and should not even be a debate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RoyalBlak007: 8:24am On Jun 24, 2018
shogz89:
you are looking at this picture alone,, their are different angles you could have used.
1) the position of the defenders are not seen I this picture
2) the goal post is not seen, how do you now want to judge if anyone of them is in the right position.

Take a look this screenshot don't mind the quality. I feel Musa was still in the best position.


Musa was in the best position. No arguments.

Nacho might have taken an extra touch to find the top corner. He would have been closed down quickly

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 8:29am On Jun 24, 2018
Argentina players 'will decide team' for World Cup clash with Nigeria as camp descends into anarchy with boss Jorge Sampaoli stripped of power

Giusti said: 'The players will decide the team, that's a fact. If Sampaoli wants to sit in the bench, he can do it. If not, no problem.'
Sampaoli was reported to be in talks with Argentine FA president Claudio Tapia late on Saturday night but looked like keeping his job, though having to take account of the players' concerns.

Messi and Javier Mascherano, as the senior players, would be most likely to be consulted to revive the campaign, with Argentina needing a win over Nigeria to take second place in the group, assuming that Iceland don't beat Croatia and better Argentina's goal difference.

wwwdotdailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5878183/amp/Argentina-players-decide-team-World-Cup-clash-Nigeria-camp-descends-anarchy.html

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30am On Jun 24, 2018
shogz89:
you are looking at this picture alone,, their are different angles you could have used.
1) the position of the defenders are not seen I this picture
2) the goal post is not seen, how do you now want to judge if anyone of them is in the right position.

Take a look this screenshot don't mind the quality. I feel Musa was still in the best position.

You want us to believe passing is not the better option. Really.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:33am On Jun 24, 2018
goldfish80:


Lots of penalties have been flying around in this world cup. I'm guessing FIFA's major sponsors pushed FIFA to make rules which will encourage more goals.
Another day, it could have been 2 pens against Ebuehi.
I don't even know what to say with all the penalty calls. Football will soon become a no contact game. Touch a player small, preeeeee goes the ref's whistle.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:33am On Jun 24, 2018
simeon nwankwo high profile striker in serie A? the way wey we take dey hype our players a times makes me to have a rethink that we hype way too much than the english soccer fans and press cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. bros easy abeg
Humility017:


you even wanna see Ighalo...me don't wanna see him at all...let rohr give other players the opportunity to impress..... especially simmy...he is a high profile striker in Italy
let's see what he has to offer

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:34am On Jun 24, 2018
If we go back to watch the first goal, we can all see that Musa won the air ball contest in the middle which was then passed to Moses before making the run straight into the box. He was everywhere that day.
tbaba1234:


Ighalo does not work the channels, Kelechi and Musa did.

Musa was running all over the place, the defenders could not pin him down. For the second goal, Ighalo would have been in the center not in the position where Musa was, to take advantage of Omeruo's clearance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 8:34am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Show tthis angle just before he beat the Goalkeeper and then tell me that passing was not the better solution. This thing is very basic and should not even be a debate.
baba I am tell you at the point he scored the goal he was in the best position. Why are you even hitting hard on this passing to iheanacho.. With two men to beat and a wide net with the ball on my stronger foot I wouldn't pass the ball to KC. just a split second and that goal opportunity could be over. At that position Musa was the defenders will never have predicted where the ball could end. Passing the ball to KC buys them time and closes the angle based on where KC was positioned.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 8:36am On Jun 24, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


You want us to believe passing is not the better option. Really.
from this your pix, he could equally have fired a shot to the right.. The net is wide open and the ball is on his stronger foot.

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