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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by valarinz: 12:39pm On Jul 24, 2018
GoldHorse:


I'm not using it again. A friend is enjoying it now. Fuel consumption, AC, Engine, etc perfect!

I used to do one funny thing I will not dare try with some cars. During those hot months when running the house AC with gen is not funny I will enter the car start the engine switch on the AC and sleep off; for over an hour at times. Car stays normal. No over heating or whatever.

Safety? Volvo is one of the safest and rugged cars. It's studded with metals, chassis is strong. Just compare the weight of the door with your average Toyota.

Parts? That's even the funniest part of the myths about parts being expensive. The few parts I changed are just normal-shock absorber and that triangular thing it's attached to (can't remember the name). I travel a lot on bad roads especially that Otukpo Enugu axis and others .....and I don't usually pity the car grin. I also would not know about the engine parts cos I didn't change or work on any.

My argument is now that if a part cost 1k and I have to change it about twice in a year and one cost 3k and don't change it within 3 years which is better? Don't forget the mechanic's fee and most especially the breakdown disappointments.

My S40 was the only car I used that never broke down or stopped me during a journey and please believe me I am more than worse with car maintenance so no be say I Sabi maintenance o. The only thing I do is greet the car after each journey grin grin. I will pat it and respectfully and thankfully say "Esin!! Well done! Lol!

One stupid panel damage my radiator and I usually have over heating (plenty) as a result of that but the volvo will just shut down when the engine is hot. I will park, wait for it to cool (at times grin.), put water, then off we go again. I never change any top gasket or whatever.

I bought it 2007. Not many in the country then and stopped using it around 2014. It was like letting go of a wonderful babe.... cheesy

The car dey speed too. And respond to touch sharp sharp. That sound when I rev the engine...hmmm..... it's Ike when you just had a great time in za oza room! cool

So please, from my own experience o, Volvo is good. Benz is great also.

cool cool

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by Officer101(m): 3:52pm On Jul 24, 2018
GoldHorse:
Try Volvo products or German brands. Most Nigerians buy Toyota and Honda products because of second hand sales value.

I don't. I buy my cars and use them for the present value they can give me not because of what they will give someone else in the future. Imagine using a car for 7 years without one single engine problem. Didn't even change the plugs.... and na tokunbo o.
Nice one!!! Please which car and model is that?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by GoldHorse(m): 4:34pm On Jul 24, 2018
Officer101:
Nice one!!! Please which car and model is that?
Volvo S40
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by WeirdWolf: 5:21pm On Jul 24, 2018
dru23:
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Yes o just ordinary 4k -4500 only... look at what ordinary 4k to 4500 did to my car .. I have fleet of cars on uber, it cost me 25k each on two cars to remove the sludge, and after that I started importing USA spec Mobil oil for my fleet.. That cheap oil u are using now , you will be the cost of it down the line.. So either you going to be penny wise or pound foolish either one you go find out ...people are getting wiser now ,I tell people before you buy any used cars, especially naija used.have your mechanic drop the oil pan of that car ..if you see any signs of sludge in that car ,run for dear life.. It means the car has been abused. That is why I will never encourage anybody to buy naija used cars, all because of 4k oil , you will than damage the car on the long run..
Am sure you go advice person with a 2018 range rover to buy 4k to 4500 oil too or better yet ignore the manufactures advice and use 0w30 instead of 5w20 .. I will keep your moniker on my warning list to avoid you in case you trying to sell cars on these forum.. Smh
Young man, every container, tank, engine that holds fluid (oil) in contact with movable mechanical components must generate sludge or the years, irrespective of the quality of oil. That's why sludge tanks are integral components of engines. Wear and tear occurs in every engine that's what contributes mostly to sludge formation, oil only cools and reduces the we Arabs d tear rate. In my post, I was referring to camry not RangeRover. I don't sell cars, if I will at all in future, it wouldn't be on Nairaland.
The less viscous the oil, the more it has the tendency to pull out debris... Yes, that's why I service regularly and warm the vehicle well before removing the oil. Enjoy.
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by WeirdWolf: 5:22pm On Jul 24, 2018
Kewtt:

And you are proudly spewing nonsense
STFU. Lb.
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by WeirdWolf: 5:25pm On Jul 24, 2018
FestacGirl:

Who said 20w50 is the recommended for Nigerian temprature?
Using Google you'll know more about engine oil rating. It has to do with viscosity and temperature.
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by Kewtt: 6:25pm On Jul 24, 2018
WeirdWolf:

Using Google you'll know more about engine oil rating. It has to do with viscosity and temperature.

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 8:43pm On Jul 24, 2018
WeirdWolf:

Young man, every container, tank, engine that holds fluid (oil) in contact with movable mechanical components must generate sludge or the years, irrespective of the quality of oil. That's why sludge tanks are integral components of engines. Wear and tear occurs in every engine that's what contributes mostly to sludge formation, oil only cools and reduces the we Arabs d tear rate. In my post, I was referring to camry not RangeRover. I don't sell cars, if I will at all in future, it wouldn't be on Nairaland.
The less viscous the oil, the more it has the tendency to pull out debris... Yes, that's why I service regularly and warm the vehicle well before removing the oil. Enjoy.

I see ,even if what u you said was true. Which I highly doubt.. So with your 10kobo oil ,you rather have the sludge to occur in two months than in two years ? Smh bottom line bro use good oil full synethic oil, wheather nay mobil or any brand of oil that has a good track record.. Please don't tell me that you will use 10kobo oil for a brand new car ,well at the end of day please continue using your road side oil. Eventually when your engine starts to act up , that is when we go see people like u asking for advice on how to fix your car ..u will now be at the mercy of mechanic looking for solution to a problem that could have been easily avoided.. Thank you sir and good luck.. I will make sure not to either buy a car from you or advice anyone not to buy from u

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by WeirdWolf: 10:55pm On Jul 24, 2018
dru23:

I see ,even if what u you said was true. Which I highly doubt.. So with your 10kobo oil ,you rather have the sludge to occur in two months than in two years ? Smh bottom line bro use good oil full synethic oil, wheather nay mobil or any brand of oil that has a good track record.. Please don't tell me that you will use 10kobo oil for a brand new car ,well at the end of day please continue using your road side oil. Eventually when your engine starts to act up , that is when we go see people like u asking for advice on how to fix your car ..u will now be at the mercy of mechanic looking for solution to a problem that could have been easily avoided.. Thank you sir and good luck.. I will make sure not to either buy a car from you or advice anyone not to buy from u

Save d time, I don't sell cars...
Goodluck with ur full synthetic abi Mobil 1.
If I'll need a piece of advice I'd email Toyota.

Regards.

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by PearlStreet(m): 1:41am On Jul 25, 2018
WeirdWolf:


Save d time, I don't sell cars...
Goodluck with ur full synthetic abi Mobil 1.
If I'll need a piece of advice I'd email Toyota.

Regards.

The guy you quoted is an engine oil hawker. Unfortunately, he lacks manners and persuasive skills.

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by PearlStreet(m): 1:44am On Jul 25, 2018
dru23:

Thank you sir and good luck.. I will make sure not to either buy a car from you or advice anyone not to buy from u

My friend, stop making noise here. Not everyone sells their properties or hawks counterfeit oil to eat.

I don't have a problem with you selling fake oil, just don't force it down the throats of others.

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 1:54am On Jul 25, 2018
PearlStreet:


My friend, stop making noise here. Not everyone sells their properties or hawks counterfeit oil to eat.

I don't have a problem with you selling fake oil, just don't force it down the throats of others.


Sorry bro ...Walmart does not sell fake oil ,and Yankee government will not allow it in their market..

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 1:56am On Jul 25, 2018
PearlStreet:


My friend, stop making noise here. Not everyone sells their properties or hawks counterfeit oil to eat.

I don't have a problem with you selling fake oil, just don't force it down the throats of others.

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 1:58am On Jul 25, 2018
PearlStreet:


My friend, stop making noise here. Not everyone sells their properties or hawks counterfeit oil to eat.

I don't have a problem with you selling fake oil, just don't force it down the throats of others.

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 1:59am On Jul 25, 2018
PearlStreet:


The guy you quoted is an engine oil hawker. Unfortunately, he lacks manners and persuasive skills.

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by dru23(m): 2:02am On Jul 25, 2018
WeirdWolf:


Save d time, I don't sell cars...
Goodluck with ur full synthetic abi Mobil 1.
If I'll need a piece of advice I'd email Toyota
.

Regards.

Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:21am On Jul 25, 2018
WeirdWolf:

Young man, every container, tank, engine that holds fluid (oil) in contact with movable mechanical components must generate sludge or the years, irrespective of the quality of oil. That's why sludge tanks are integral components of engines. Wear and tear occurs in every engine that's what contributes mostly to sludge formation, oil only cools and reduces the we Arabs d tear rate. In my post, I was referring to camry not RangeRover. I don't sell cars, if I will at all in future, it wouldn't be on Nairaland.
The less viscous the oil, the more it has the tendency to pull out debris... Yes, that's why I service regularly and warm the vehicle well before removing the oil. Enjoy.

sadly this is not entirely true. u need to do some research in mineral, semi synthetic and full synthetic oils.

some oils will ensure your engine stays sludge free over the course of usage while some have a natural tendency to break down causing sludge.

it is also important to note that regular servicing (engine oil and oil filter change) is also necessary to ensure a sludge free engine.

also city driving or only weekend driving can also facilitate and/or accelerate the formation of sludge.

these reasons above are the major reasons for the inception of full synthetic oils, unlike their brother.. mineral oils which are gotten as a byproduct of refining crude oil, they are manufactured in the lab and basically consists of polymers. also they are equipped with detergent compounds which tend to ensure u have a sludge free environment.

having said that, u cannot still decide not to change ur oil because it is synthetic, the duration of the life span is significantly higher than the minerals but after a calculated period of time, they tend to lose their viscosity and start acting like a single weighted oil which is not also too good.

sadly dru is right, I hate it when he is right though... he is as arrogant as a peacock having it's beard shaved!

the major cause of sludge is not wear and tear of the engine parts, it's actually the break down of the oil(usually mineral) in use.... either due to engine under-utilization (engine doesn't reach operating temp) or due to neglected oil service intervals.

now imagine a car bought tokunbo with 200k+ miles WITHOUT SLUDGE due to proper maintenance, when the car arrives Nigeria, they bypass the fans to run direct and delete the thermostat..... engine never reaches operating temperature... as if that's not enough, someone somewhere will then service with Mobil xhp 20w50 with N500 Chinese knock off filter.

in less than 2years or 20k. miles in Nigeria, u open that engine..... it'll look like someone was moulding clay inside..... this is why the Honda engines are more rugged.... they can withstand these terrible abuses without breaking a sweat..... sadly Toyota can't.... dunno about Volvo but I'm sure Hyundai and Kia no fit take am too.... Mercedes, Audi and BMW can all take it

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Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by WeirdWolf: 2:26pm On Jul 25, 2018
obekediamondfuto:


sadly this is not entirely true. u need to do some research in mineral, semi synthetic and full synthetic oils.

some oils will ensure your engine stays sludge free over the course of usage while some have a natural tendency to break down causing sludge.

it is also important to note that regular servicing (engine oil and oil filter change) is also necessary to ensure a sludge free engine.

also city driving or only weekend driving can also facilitate and/or accelerate the formation of sludge.

these reasons above are the major reasons for the inception of full synthetic oils, unlike their brother.. mineral oils which are gotten as a byproduct of refining crude oil, they are manufactured in the lab and basically consists of polymers. also they are equipped with detergent compounds which tend to ensure u have a sludge free environment.

having said that, u cannot still decide not to change ur oil because it is synthetic, the duration of the life span is significantly higher than the minerals but after a calculated period of time, they tend to lose their viscosity and start acting like a single weighted oil which is not also too good.

sadly dru is right, I hate it when he is right though... he is as arrogant as a peacock having it's beard shaved!

the major cause of sludge is not wear and tear of the engine parts, it's actually the break down of the oil(usually mineral) in use.... either due to engine under-utilization (engine doesn't reach operating temp) or due to neglected oil service intervals.

now imagine a car bought tokunbo with 200k+ miles WITHOUT SLUDGE due to proper maintenance, when the car arrives Nigeria, they bypass the fans to run direct and delete the thermostat..... engine never reaches operating temperature... as if that's not enough, someone somewhere will then service with Mobil xhp 20w50 with N500 Chinese knock off filter.

in less than 2years or 20k. miles in Nigeria, u open that engine..... it'll look like someone was moulding clay inside..... this is why the Honda engines are more rugged.... they can withstand these terrible abuses without breaking a sweat..... sadly Toyota can't.... dunno about Volvo but I'm sure Hyundai and Kia no fit take am too.... Mercedes, Audi and BMW can all take it

Largely, I believe u.
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by megacontrol(m): 2:56pm On Jul 25, 2018
Are you in Lagos?
Where do you do maintenance of your chevrolet? I'm considering picking one up and wondering how readily available is the support services around here.

1daboi:
My Chevrolet optra issa goal!
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:30pm On Jul 25, 2018
megacontrol:
Are you in Lagos?
Where do you do maintenance of your chevrolet? I'm considering picking one up and wondering how readily available is the support services around here.


cc oluwaseunla
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by oluwaseunla(m): 8:06pm On Jul 25, 2018
obekediamondfuto:


cc oluwaseunla

Thank you sir.

@megacontrol, what year are you looking at?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by megacontrol(m): 4:17am On Jul 26, 2018
2008 - 2010 or thereabout

oluwaseunla:


Thank you sir.

@megacontrol, what year are you looking at?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by radautoworks: 7:29am On Jul 26, 2018
megacontrol:
Are you in Lagos?
Where do you do maintenance of your chevrolet? I'm considering picking one up and wondering how readily available is the support services around here.


We'll take care of the Chevy no problem
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by Apple2: 7:46am On Jul 26, 2018
FestacGirl:

Ikenna351 comes to mind

Madam Sorry?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by Kewtt: 8:50am On Jul 26, 2018
radautoworks:


We'll take care of the Chevy no problem
Then you'd have the engine for the Pacifica?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by 1daboi: 6:59pm On Jul 26, 2018
megacontrol:
Are you in Lagos?
Where do you do maintenance of your chevrolet? I'm considering picking one up and wondering how readily available is the support services around here.

i'm in Lagos. The parts are available at ladipo. The car is durable trust me
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by megacontrol(m): 9:48pm On Jul 26, 2018
good to know.

1daboi:
i'm in Lagos. The parts are available at ladipo. The car is durable trust me
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by megacontrol(m): 9:50pm On Jul 26, 2018
that's great. thanks

radautoworks:


We'll take care of the Chevy no problem
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by radautoworks: 7:21pm On Jul 27, 2018
Kewtt:

Then you'd have the engine for the Pacifica?

Why do you think you need an engine for the Chrysler?
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by Kewtt: 8:30pm On Jul 27, 2018
radautoworks:


Why do you think you need an engine for the Chrysler?
Overheating
Re: Is Toyota As Reliable As Nigerians Make It Seem. by radautoworks: 3:32am On Jul 28, 2018
Kewtt:

Overheating

if that's it, you don't need an engine. what other symptoms?

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