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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by awesomeJ(m): 10:05pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
Seun:It's not why can't he? It's "Why won't he" He won't cos, he doesn't have to. You think he reckons that much with fools? Mind you, only fools and apes are convinced by Charles Darwin. Any man who believes the proposition actually needs help with his mental faculty. If you were not a disgrace to education, The earth rotates to cause day and night, The male reproductive organ is a perfect fit for the females, The brain detects harmful substances from just smell and taste, Evaporation exists to make for a perfect water cycle, When plants eject Oxygen, animals take it in and vice versa, There exists terminal Velocity in fluids that prevent raindrops from hitting humans with a destructive momentum, The DNA contains one of the most complex codes, These are few of the millions of things a rational person would consider and be more than convinced that there must be an author. Yet you're there wallowing in foolishness saying you, and your family are monkeys. Mental blindness is a disease of the worst order. Goodluck coping with it. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 11:20pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
What is our world coming to? Has Christians read post No 360, we have an atheist preaching out of the bible . Here we witness Budaatum standing on the atheist pulpit warning Christians to turn the other cheek and to be kind and loving as these atheist swine rob them of their precious pearls and mock, insult and ridicule their God and Jesus. Budaatum strongly appeals to Christians to stand with their hands behind their backs while atheist trolls mock God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and by direct implication all Christians should surrender to evil. What I see in post No 360 is well worn cheap psychology commonly used by atheists to prepare their targets for slaughter. Christians beware, satan can also read the bible, he can appear as light. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 11:29pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
ScienceWatch:Shame on you, where do you get the idea that satan can appear as light? Are the Christians you know so blind that they can't differentiate between darkness and light? Buda is preaching absolutely nothing to you. Buda is not your Lord Jesus Christ nor did she write the Bible. Perhaps you might serve yourself better by actually reading it instead of relying on the twaddle preached to you by your mentor! I, buda, categorically mock you, sc! |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
rekinomtla: Christians lie heavily more than the Atheists because Christians have already been promised that no matter how many times they lie, All they have to do is go inside their room and ask God for forgiveness n thus they become white as snow. Same goes with murder and stealing and etc This is why Christians are very deadly people. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
awesomeJ: Even though am not an Atheist. I KNOW THAT THERE'S NO CORE EVIDENCE THAT GOD EXISTS. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 2:40am On Jul 28, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: Those are the christians that become atheists. They eventually come to believe they just apes who invented morality. Thats why most atheists believe morality is subjective and is an invention of humanity. That the belief that murder, stealing etc is wrong is just an invention of soceity, in their reality there's nothing objectively wrong with murder, rape, pedophilia etc. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 3:35am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:Don't be silly! What do you mean by "atheists believe that there's nothing wrong with murder, rape, paedophilia"? Are you suggesting that just because I am an atheist, and according to you, believe that morally is subjective, it's therefore ok for you to murder me, or rape me or screw my underage daughter, and that I should wait for society to decide it's not okay before I decide I'd rather you didn't? You seriously need to have your head checked and stop typing words you don't really know the meaning of or haven't thought about at all! |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 5:04am On Jul 28, 2018 |
budaatum: Stop being silly, I specifically said atheists believe there's nothing objectively wrong. You for some weird reason left out the word objective when you misquoted me so that you could twist my words to mean what you want it to mean. Nowhere did I say atheists are OK with criminals abusing their children. I said they see nothing objectively wrong with pedophilia or murder or rape or anything else for that matter. You seriously need to have your head checked and stop typing words you don't really know the meaning of or haven't thought about at all! Put your reading glasses on next time you before you attack strawmans. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 6:18am On Jul 28, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Atheism is adept at brainwashing gullible people. Just look how atheism has convinced popular atheist author Dan Barker that something can come from nothing and that" through natural selection a car can turn into an airplane." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK2yNkTuJkY so not only are we apes that came from fish but apparently our cars can evolve into airplanes thanks to natural selection. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by hopefulLandlord: 7:59am On Jul 28, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: ))"Let the weak say I am strong" Some even added "Let the poor say I am rich" |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 8:44am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla: ""Those are the christians"" They are Christians and their understanding about ultimate forgiveness was taught to them by the religion Christianity.. Simple. "" atheists believe morality is subjective and is an invention of humanity"" Morality is an invention of man, Only a self inflicted blind man does not know or sees this. Morality differs from village to village, tribe to tribe, nation to nation. For example it is an Abomination in Igbo culture for someone to marry his or her cousin, But in Fulani culture, it is quite normal. Back in the days, It was normal in the old calabar (Ibibio and Efik tribes) to kill twins, but in those same time it was an Abomination to kill twins in Igbo land. It is an Abomination for someone to marry their blood brother or sister in Nigeria, But in China it is normal to 2 siblings to get married and have children together. In the past, Wen a man dies in Igbo land, And he has a wife n children, The wife isn't allowed to marry outside the family. One of the dead man's brother will marry the widow and she will stillgive birth to more legitimate children for his dead husband, It was a norm. But now it has become an Abomination. The list of examples is endless. Each people on earth make their rules, laws, They decide what to call good or evil. "" in their reality there's nothing objectively wrong with murder, rape, pedophilia "" It seems that u were an Atheist before. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 8:54am On Jul 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 9:05am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla: Your God ordered people to not only murder others but to carry out genocide according to the bible, he also ordered his chosen men to rape people in the bible, the Koran saw nothing wrong with Mohammed marrying a 9 years old child. So with God all these vices you listed were permissible. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 9:13am On Jul 28, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: Thanks for explaining why atheists and supposedly non-atheists like yourself believe morality is an invention and that "there's nothing objectively wrong with murder, rape, pedophilia etc." 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 9:24am On Jul 28, 2018 |
dalaman: Why is it that every I mention what atheists believe about morality they get so defensive? Usually replying by confirming what I said about their beliefs about morality but at the same time trying to convince me that morality is all subjective? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 11:05am On Jul 28, 2018 |
winner01: This is the point I have been trying to make,what serves as evidence to one person my seem foolish to the other so the only way to get around it is for "God" to reveal himself to everyone if that happens,no one needs to assume anything or convince anyone rather everyone will be saying the same thing,unless that happens you would always have atheists,agnostics and different faiths and even different denominations and tenets within the same fairh 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 11:07am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:ROTFL ( rolling on the floor laughing) What a MOCKERY ! When atheists mock God and Jesus, they end up mocking themselves for comic relief. Can you see why atheists revival meetings and leadership conferences always draw tiny groups of followers, while Christian revival meetings overfill the worlds largest Olympic stadiums worldwide ? Only the criminally minded would enjoy practising the satanic doctrines embedded in the horrific ATHEISTS TRAINING MANUAL. This manual effectively prepares the disciples mind for the practical devastation they will be called on to unleash on an unsuspecting world. When I closely re-examine atheist Budaatum's preaching here to appeal to all Christians to surrender to the brutal and cowardly onslaught from atheist swine, the hairs raise on my neck as he uses Holy Scripture to deceive his chosen target into submission. Budaatum's tactics is nothing new, these tactics have been used for thousands of years including the tactics mentioned above by the esteemed Rekinomtla. CHRISTIANS ARE NOT PUSHOVERS, THEY HAVE SUPREME POWER BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALY CONNECTED to the greatest spirit known to mankind. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 11:15am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:He is an atheist who's only disguise is a different label to appease a deluded ego. If you study the two page Atheist Training Manual you will see why they are chronic liars. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 11:27am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla: You've not show how morality is objective at all. You've only said it. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 11:32am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:"Nothing objectively wrong" ! Does that even mean anything? Either way you wish put it. Pray tell where objectivity or subjectivity comes into you killing me, or raping me or my daughter and my not finding it wrong. If I don't like you doing those things to me, do you think I'd like to do them to you and find it okay, just because I am an atheist? The point is that whether objectively or subjectively right or wrong, not many people, atheist or not, would like those things done to one, and people sure don't willy nilly go about doing them to others despite the news one hears of such doings! I strongly advice that you go learn what is actually meant when morals are said to be objectively and subjectively derived instead of throwing words around in such a way that shows you are parroting what you've heard other equally ignorant people say. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 11:40am On Jul 28, 2018 |
dalaman: It was never my intention to show morality was objective, I never even said it was in any of my posts here. I merely stated what some atheists believe about morality. So far all atheists here have agreed with me about what they believe about morals. They just seem to be bother about someone stating their position for some reason. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 11:49am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla: I've shown you that morality is not objective, cos even with God slavery, genocide, incest etc were all allowed. 1 Like |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 11:51am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:Because you don't understand the words you yourself utter! All morality is determined by subjective human beings. This is the reason why even in the bible what is ok at some point in time is no more permissible now, and some things that aren't permissible now were permissible in the past. We may then objectify that morality, that is, make it absolute, but it does start off with subjective human beings! Garry Goldberg says it better than I can so I'll just copy and paste perhaps that might help you understand. He is an atheist, mind. An Essay On Objective Vs Subjective Morality |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 11:56am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:Have you heard about the Barber that said he can't believe there is a God? The Barber : There was a man who went to a barber shop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: “I don’t believe that God exists.” “Why do you say that?” asked the customer. “Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine a loving a God who would allow all of these things.” The customer thought for a moment, but didn’t respond because he didn’t want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barber shop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: “You know what? Barbers do not exist.” "How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!” “No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.” “ The Barber said, "Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me.” “Exactly!”- affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don’t go to Him and do not look for him. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 11:56am On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:You strawman it, to borrow your word rekinomtla. And its the misuse of it that's annoying. Couple that with the fact that it's part of some long held erroneous view of morality itself, we can't help but jump on you. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 12:01pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
rekinomtla:See, here you go again. If I were to say morally was invented by God and handed to Moses, would I be so wrong? Now go read what was handed to Moses and see how much of it we have discarded already! Does that not show that is is not absolute, but relative? |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 12:04pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
budaatum: Go read my post again or just quote (or misquote like before) where I said atheist are ok with people abusing them or their children. I strongly advise you to stop tackling strawmans when replying to someone. 2 Likes |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 12:08pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Atheists do that, claim (lie) they not atheists so they can aviod any counter arguments or criticism theists present when refuting their misrepresentations of religion, science, morality etc. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 12:23pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
budaatum:Some of Gary Goldberg's arguments remind me of the tactics used by the Gay and Lesbian Movement to legitimize their immoral demands and their rights to marry in a Christian church. They used the same arguments to gain position as pastors to confuse and befuddle the sensibilities of entire congregations. Only a madman can claim that the 10 Commandments are subjective morality and therefore subject to change at the whims of mere man. I do think that your brief explanation made more sense than the mental gymnastics and copious ramblings of Gary Goldberg. |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 12:23pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
dalaman: I've already discussed this with you and other atheists before, I have no intention of repeating myself or trying to convince you morality is objective or that all your arguments for relativism, subjectivism (whatever you want to called it) is flawed and fallacious. I'm merely stating the atheist position on morality, which funny enough most atheist so far have agreed with. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Seun(m): 12:40pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
Can’t we deal with the actual topic? |
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by rekinomtla(m): 12:41pm On Jul 28, 2018 |
budaatum: I suggest you stop reading articles by atheist apologists such as Garry Goldberg. Even a Wikipedia page does better job than him. Like him you confusing objective morality with absolute morality. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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