Madrid no even get up to 4 centre backs self.

We are just overcrowding positions with players. and leaving emergency areas. just like we did with left back.
Both mourinho and man utd board are not thinking clearly. I pity dem.

JayKayMaybachz:
Barca, Real Madrid, Juventus and Even City to some extent

Name the 5 solid CBs tat Madrid and Barcelona have

odizeey:
Madrid no even get up to 4 centre backs self.

We are just overcrowding positions with players. and leaving emergency areas. just like we did with left back.
Both mourinho and man utd board are not thinking clearly. I pity dem.

We have a manager obsessed with defending and ranting.

patrickmuf:
How Levy manages to keep such world class players on a modest wage is beyond me...See how they are dealing with the Alderweireld issue, no panic whatsoever, last season he was benched for a greater part of the season yet he didn't complain...
Levy is the real boss...How I wish we had someone like Levy, Martial and the other lads wouldn't be messing around...

World what? Don't overhype Spuds players, mbok. I'm sure that average Joe called Alli is world-class in your eyes. For proving himself for over 3 seasons now, Kane is the only world-class player at Spurs and Eriksen as well. There's is a difference between a good player and a world-class player. Spurs have good players, not world-class players. The likes of Dier, Trippier, Sanchez, etc are not world-class. Let's not be deceived.

And what Levy does to keep his players that are considered very important is to slam exorbitant money as their buy-out clauses, same way Chelsea is insisting on 200m for Madrid to get Hazard. That way, clubs will think long and hard before coming to price any of them away. If we're interested in Wayama who's surplus to requirement at White Hart Lane, or the ageing Dembele, they won't cost us much. But if we inquire about Eriksen and Co, na from 80m upwards.

sinizia:


World what? Don't overhype Spuds players, mbok. I'm sure that average Joe called Alli is world-class in your eyes. For proving himself for over 3 seasons now, Kane is the only world-class player at Spurs and Eriksen as well. There's is a difference between a good player and a world-class player. Spurs have good players, not world-class players. The likes of Dier, Trippier, Sanchez, etc are not world-class. Let's not be deceived.

And what Levy does to keep his players that are considered very important is to slam exorbitant money as their buy-out clauses, same way Chelsea is insisting on 200m for Madrid to get Hazard. That way, clubs will think long and hard before coming to price any of them away. If we're interested in Wayama who's surplus to requirement at White Hart Lane, or the ageing Dembele, they won't cost us much. But if we inquire about Eriksen and Co, na from 80m upwards.

sorry to ask, if it was that easy why do other clubs not put high price too. like on ronaldo wen we sold him. its more than that joor

slimghost:


We have a manager obsessed with defending and ranting.

make then do chase am out abeg.

patrickmuf:
Is Pogba better than Erikson?
Is Sanchez better than Kane?
Your definition/idea of world class is so wrong on several levels, trophies won doesn't define the rating of a player...

bro hw is pogba not better than Eriksson or Sanchez that has been balling right from Udinese,barca,Arsenal not better than harry kane..

we should stop underrating our players.... anyhow u want to look at it Pogba is better than Eriksson and Alexis Sanchez is better than Harry Kane


Andif trophies won doesn't define players ratings tell what are they playing for...

onyeomaonyeoma:
bro hw is pogba not better than Eriksson or Sanchez that has been balling right from Udinese,barca,Arsenal not better than harry kane..

we should stop underrating our players.... anyhow u want to look at it Pogba is better than Eriksson and Alexis Sanchez is better than Harry Kane


Andif trophies won doesn't define players ratings tell what are they playing for...

see person wen say dem no dey back mourinho. see as u enter trap now.

Interesting read. Other top teams are in no better condition than Utd, except Liverpool. Do you hear Poch and others complaining?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45017413

Is Mourinho laying the ground for a long exit from Man Utd with his recent jamtalks?

odizeey:
sorry to ask, if it was that easy why do other clubs not put high price too. like on ronaldo wen we sold him. its more than that joor

You put high price on a player that's considered valuable, whether the person is worth the valuation is another case. Dele Alli has a high valuation and hype around him, if you come for him, he will cost you from 100m upwards unless he loses form and his valuation drops. But for me, even for 50m, I won't touch Alli with a 50ft pole. He's very average and one of the numerous overhyped English piece of shît littering the EPL. We saw how he looked clueless without Eriksen at the World Cup.

Coutinho is very valuable and will cost a lot, while Digne that's been sold to Everton is less valuable. Both play for this same club, but their valuations are different.

Pogba has a high buy-out clause on his head, while Darmian won't cost more than 15m. De Gea is worth over 100m while Grant will be sold free of charge if we intend to sell him. There are levels to this shît. All players are not equal.

sinizia:


You put high price on a player that's considered valuable, whether the person is worth the valuation is another case. Dele Alli has a high valuation and hype around him, if you come for him, he will cost you from 100m upwards unless he loses form and his valuation drops. But for me, even for 50m, I won't touch Alli with a 50ft pole. He's very average and one of the numerous overhyped English piece of shît littering the EPL. We saw how he looked clueless without Eriksen at the World Cup.

Coutinho is very valuable and will cost a lot, while Digne that's been sold to Everton is less valuable. Both play for this same club, but their valuations are different.

Pogba has a high buy-out clause on his head, while Darmian won't cost more than 15m. De Gea is worth over 100m while Grant will be sold free of charge if we intend to sell him. There are levels to this shît. All players are not equal.

ok

Leyqute:
Interesting read. Other top teams are in no better condition than Utd, except Liverpool. Do you hear Poch and others complaining?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45017413

Is Mourinho laying the ground for a long exit from Man Utd with his recent jamtalks?

He is just trying to give himself a softlanding incase he messes up again this season.

slimghost:


He is just trying to give himself a softlanding incase he messes up acai this season.

We already know him for that.

odizeey:
sorry to ask, if it was that easy why do other clubs not put high price too. like on ronaldo wen we sold him. its more than that joor

We sold CR7 to Madrid for a world record fee. SAF did put a very high price on him.

slimghost:


He is just trying to give himself a softlanding incase he messes up again this season.

Hope Ed is already shopping for a replacement.

odizeey:
see person wen say dem no dey back mourinho. see as u enter trap now.

baba which trap bdat....? is it we having world class players or Mourinho not having enough to work with

sinizia:


World what? Don't overhype Spuds players, mbok. I'm sure that average Joe called Alli is world-class in your eyes. For proving himself for over 3 seasons now, Kane is the only world-class player at Spurs and Eriksen as well. There's is a difference between a good player and a world-class player. Spurs have good players, not world-class players. The likes of Dier, Trippier, Sanchez, etc are not world-class. Let's not be deceived.

And what Levy does to keep his players that are considered very important is to slam exorbitant money as their buy-out clauses, same way Chelsea is insisting on 200m for Madrid to get Hazard. That way, clubs will think long and hard before coming to price any of them away. If we're interested in Wayama who's surplus to requirement at White Hart Lane, or the ageing Dembele, they won't cost us much. But if we inquire about Eriksen and Co, na from 80m upwards.

I didn't mention Alli, I made reference to Kane, Erikson and Alderweireld in my subsequent post to buttress my point and there's no denying that they are indeed world class...
3---4 players of world standard in a teams qualifies you to term them a team of world class players...Kane, Erikson, Alderweireld and heck even Vertoghen will earn two to three times the amount they're currently earning at Spurs if they played for us, City, Chelsea or any of the big guns.
For the records, I don't rate Alli that high.

Leyqute:

Hope Ed is already shopping for a replacement.

I hope so too. I don't see a future with that guy.

onyeomaonyeoma:
baba which trap bdat....? is it we having world class players or Mourinho not having enough to work with

How many players in City and Liverpool are world class?

eph12:
How many players in City and Liverpool are world class?

Bro stop engaging that guy. He knows nada about football.

onyeomaonyeoma:
bro hw is pogba not better than Eriksson or Sanchez that has been balling right from Udinese,barca,Arsenal not better than harry kane..

we should stop underrating our players.... anyhow u want to look at it Pogba is better than Eriksson and Alexis Sanchez is better than Harry Kane


Andif trophies won doesn't define players ratings tell what are they playing for...

Erikson has outshined Pogba is the last 3 years just as Kane has produce better output in the same period over Sanchez...
Talking about trophies, it's subject to the collective contributions of a team and not just a player...

Jose is now the favorite manager to be sacked next season. Already, some US fans are calling for his head

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/manchester-united/11452687/us-fan-wants-jose-sacked

patrickmuf:
I didn't mention Alli, I made reference to Kane, Erikson and Alderweireld in my subsequent post to buttress my point and there's no denying that they are indeed world class...
3---4 players of world standard in a teams qualifies you to term them a team of world class players...Kane, Erikson, Alderweireld and neck even Vertoghen will earn two to three times the amount they're currently earning at Spurs if they played for us, City, Chelsea or any of the big guns.
For the records, I don't rate Alli that high.

I don't agree that 3-4 world-class players are enough to make a team world-class because judging with your benchmark, with Pogba, De Gea and Sanchez, why are we still wailing about our team being average?

And I also disagree that Vertoghen and Alderweireld are world-class defenders. The likes of Ramos, Pique in his prime, Godin, Chellini, etc., are several levels above any Spuds CBs.

Leyqute:


We sold CR7 to Madrid for a world record fee. SAF did put a very high price on him.

going by the logic of keeping players with high fee. we would have kept Ronaldo by putting 300 million on him.

sinizia:


I don't agree that 3-4 world-class players are enough to make a team world-class because judging with your benchmark, with Pogba, De Gea and Sanchez, why are we still wailing about our team being average?

And I also disagree that Vertoghen and Alderweireld are world-class defenders. The likes of Ramos, Pique in his prime, Godin, Chellini, etc., are several levels above any Spuds CBs.

Is Barcelona a team of world class players currently? How about Real Madrid, we are going somewhere with this discussion, Chelsea nko?

We are not wailing about our team being average, we are asking for good players and specifically specialist to be signed to man each position, Mahrez is good and not necessarily world class, Rebic/Perisic are not world class but they can do a job and do it well and that's what we crave for, not super signings...This is what a greater number not folks here imply from their comments here.

Your last paragraph is true but you must also realize that whilst Robben in his prime was world class, he was several levels below Messi just as Rakitic is several levels below Modric and so on...

eph12:
How many players in City and Liverpool are world class?

checkmate.

odizeey:
going by the logic of keeping players with high fee. we would have kept Ronaldo by putting 300 million on him.

You don't get the point, do you? 80m then is like 300m+ now.

How is Jose trying to demoralise players? Players who have a fragile heart doesn't need to be at this ruthless club. If criticism doesn't make you strong, I don't know what a real man needs to grow as a person and as a professional.

Who feels bad and is disheartened by Jose's comments like most of this so called manutd fans ,then seriously you need to man up and needs to fight. Support manager no matter who the player is, everyone wants to win but not more than the manager.

Everything he does or say,it's for Manchester United and players who aren't willing to die for him needs to go without filling the space of our squad. We need fighters who are ready to die for team and manager,not stars and fan favourites.

Another angle.

Ben Wire: Jose Mourinho. The stats never lie. Alex Ferguson's longevity was rooted in his continual ability to renew his style and always evolve; Mourinho needs to learn this.

Leyqute:


You don't get the point, do you? 80m then is like 300m+ now.

you are the one not getting. since Tottenham are using ridiculous amount to keep their average players then other can keep their world class by setting unreachable amount on the player.
this thing is about the player majorly if he wants to leave he will force it.

Dan Jones: Jose Mourinho is right to call players out when they under perform! If I consistently did my job as poor as some at Man Utd I'd be sacked! Too much player power, Mourinho damned if he didn't say anything & damned when he does!

Duncan: There really is far too much being made out of this Jose Mourinho situation. OK he's more miserable than he used to be, but he's still a top manager with top players who finished second last year. Once the season starts and Manchester United get on with winning, people will lose interest

Pundits view

patrickmuf:
Is Barcelona a team of world class players currently? How about Real Madrid, we are going somewhere with this discussion, Chelsea nko?

We are not wailing about our team being average, we are asking for good players and specifically specialist to be signed to man each position, Mahrez is good and not necessarily world class, Rebic/Perisic are not world class but they can do a job and do it well and that's what we crave for, not super signings...This is what a greater number not folks here imply from their comments here.

Your last paragraph is true but you must also realize that whilst Robben in his prime was world class, he was several levels below Messi just as Rakitic is several levels below Modric and so on...

Madrid team are world-class, even that of Barcelona. I said this because apart from having "3-4 of world-class players" (let's go with your benchmark), they also have GENERALLY TOP/GOOD PLAYERS. It's highly improbable to see a team populated with world-class players all through. What you're going to get are 3-4 world-class and more top players. That's where I think you got it wrong (thinking just 3-4 world-class players ONLY are enough to make a team world-class)

Madrid has world-class players but the first-eleven is filled with top players. How can you not think a team that has/had Ororo, Bale, Kroos, Modric, Varane, Ramos, Isco, Marcelo is not world-class. These are top players.

But United are filled with deadwoods like Young, Shaw, Rojo, Jones, Mctominay etc. If we had a good and sensible coach first and foremost, with a team that's generally good in most positions alongside 3-4 world-class players, we'd be a top team like Madrid and Co.


Yes, I agree that even for world-class, there are levels. But for me, Vertoghen and Alderweireld never reach that world-class level.