djon78:


My first sister that went to deliver her baby, do you know my relatives over there collected her daughters social security number because her baby got her American passport after delivery. It really caused serious problem between she and her husband. The second one that went. That my sister dey mean she told them point blank never. They reported her to my mum that they will deal with her.

The only relatives I know that are doing very well two of them are top medical doctors. It took them time but presently they are big time professionals

Travelifucan:
Nigerians, don't believe people always saying life is more difficult in USA for example. Without exaggeration, it took me just one year in the States to achieve what I never achieved for over 30 years of my life in Nigeria. Believe me, this is without exaggeration. I hate it when people living abroad and enjoying the privileges our beloved country never provided. Do you know that at age of 18 kids in the USA are expected to leave their parents house? Start living a good life of their own.

May be we should ask the lady what she did with her life. Ask what she did with the student loan. She probably saw the loan as free money and she sqanderd it. I wonder why she would have no place to live or food to eat after collecting student loan. The loan is expected to cover all expenses and tuition while studying in the US. Besides, there are a lot of organizations in the US that give free food or clothes to people in need, even though food is the cheapest stuff in the USA.

Well, may be she is suffering due to ignorance. She probably needs information. If that's the case, she should search for knowledge.

My advice to all Nigerians, travel if you can!

Thanks...

I don't have a problem with all you have written as to help debunk what the twitter story says.

My only problem is you had to create a new account to place your point here. Out of desperation may I please know why?

Remember Nairaland by virtue of it facelessness has already protected you from every other user and you can't say you're creating a new account to veil your identity.

PS
NO OFFENSE OR DISRESPECT INTENDED, SHOULD YOU FIND ANY PART OF MY QUOTE OFFENSIVE AND DISRESPECTFUL.

PEACE..

yemiosinbajo:


I'm sure no one has ever said you can never make it overseas. This is just what people in Nigeria try to accuse us of doing whenever we just try to tell them some truths. And regarding overseas being hell, trust me, it can be worse than hell sef if you are not here with legal papers. And when I say legal papers, I mean green card. Now, how many people in Nigeria are trying to come to the US with green cards. Most people in Nigeria trying to come to the US do not have the money needed to support themselves here, they are actually coming because they are suffering in Nigeria and need a better life. So, when you say be financially prepared, how many people are indeed financially prepared? Thing is, even without being financially prepared, you can still make it here, however, you will need to get involved in illegal stuffs such as working without authorization. During this time, you will experience a little bit of the hell. If you are lucky, you will pull through, otherwise, omo, life fit be tough o especially if you no find woman wey you wan marry, because that's your only escape route.

yemiosinbajo:


I'm sure no one has ever said you can never make it overseas. This is just what people in Nigeria try to accuse us of doing whenever we just try to tell them some truths. And regarding overseas being hell, trust me, it can be worse than hell sef if you are not here with legal papers. And when I say legal papers, I mean green card. Now, how many people in Nigeria are trying to come to the US with green cards. Most people in Nigeria trying to come to the US do not have the money needed to support themselves here, they are actually coming because they are suffering in Nigeria and need a better life. So, when you say be financially prepared, how many people are indeed financially prepared? Thing is, even without being financially prepared, you can still make it here, however, you will need to get involved in illegal stuffs such as working without authorization. During this time, you will experience a little bit of the hell. If you are lucky, you will pull through, otherwise, omo, life fit be tough o especially if you no find woman wey you want marry, because that's your only escape route.

Babyvet:


Okay so have you secured any visa?

Babyvet:


That’s very dangerous , they can damage that baby girl by using her social security , they can open account and credit in her name.

lefulefu:
i am not making plans to travel to the US

Babyvet:
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I never mentioned any country name , I simply asked have you a secured visa? Meaning to any country since you want to leave the Nigeria.

Babyvet:
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I never mentioned any country name , I simply asked have you a secured visa? Meaning to any country since you want to leave the Nigeria.

lefulefu:
its like e don tey wey u leave naija.. When did u leave nigeria?..1996? 1998? 2001?. If u come back to nigeria u will know what real hell is all about.those things u take for granted in the USA are a luxury in nigeria? Is it light?..stable internet service? Or security?. Bros we have epileptic power supply and its now worse than how it was in the early 2000s and late 90s. Security here is dead. Ppl are dying like fowls in nigeria.everyday u switch on d news u hear stories about boko haram bombing one community or d other and fulani herdsmen raping women goin to d farm and invading villages.SARS arresting innocent ppl..police shooting ppl cos of 20 naira bribe. That is nigeria we have now. Welcome to nigeria where human life is worthless than that of the life of a chicken.

resurgent2019:


But why do you wanna discourage people from leaving Nigeria? Is it that your misery loves company or what?

You know we have argued this issue on another thread?

resurgent2019:


Why do you want people to stay in Nigeria while you are not in Nigeria yourself?

resurgent2019:


Why do you want people to stay in Nigeria while you are not in Nigeria yourself?

resurgent2019:


Don’t worry, we will come and find wives to marry. I don’t like what you are doing on this thread. You are constituting an hindrance(psychological) to Nigerians who want to emigrate to America. Stop discouraging people who want a better life for themselves.

lefulefu:
i was given admission by a foreign univ. Thats all i will say.this is nairaland where u dont air ur personal plans too much.

djon78:


See this is just a medium but let me tell you I schooled abroad. I have my B S from a UK university. It is not that they are telling me. I have first hand account of how Nigerians, blacks are going through hard times.

I wrote my last exam December by the next January I packed my belongings and came back home. It was not easy, but it was the right decision. My brother in law that overstayed he was later deported.

Coming back was the right decision for me because if not I may not be back again here. And I am progressing little by little by God's Grace. Abroad is not made for everybody.

I know many people in the UK that are living without papers that anyday they are deported , they will never get to any western country again.
If you go abroad you will see people that sold their inheritance to travel and they are stuck.
Except you peddle drugs or do fraud making it over there is just very few.

Babyvet:


That’s very dangerous , they can damage that baby girl by using her social security , they can open account and credit in her name.

resurgent2019:


Don’t worry, we will come and find wives to marry. I don’t like what you are doing on this thread. You are constituting an hindrance(psychological) to Nigerians who want to emigrate to America. Stop discouraging people who want a better life for themselves.

yemiosinbajo:


They will soon start accusing you of trying to discourage them from going.

djon78:


The dude thought he is talking with a novice. If there are 100 people abroad maybe 5 may be successful but the other 95 will be full of regrets. Even the drugs and fraud is still very hard because oyibo done wise up.

The truth is that many Africans have sold there birthright for a porridge. Many don't even have pride about themselves. Life is not easy. There is no shortcut to success it is all about hard work. People are still making it here. True our government is bad but change is coming gradually. Many Nigerians are becoming aware politically. 2019 election will redefine a lot of things and finally many of our people don't know that underdevelopment is a big opportunity for economic growth.

Nigeria is not poor. Nigeria's is rich in natural resources. Rich in human resources just bad government. Only.

yemiosinbajo:


And you know that marrying for papers is a fraud, right?

yemiosinbajo:


God bless you. You mentioned things many people never think about. I just talked to my family back in naija, and it's not like things are getting really worse for them. Nigeria is like an untapped talent, some people sieze the opportunity of its underdevelopment to make it big there. Many of those who come to America and make it do not even it big, they just live average, normal lives, and that's all.

resurgent2019:


Why don’t you come back to Nigeria if you believe so much in her potentials?

resurgent2019:


Now you just exposed yourself as an enemy of progress for millions of Nigerians who want to leave Nigeria.

Why don’t you want progress for other Nigerians? Is it fair? I leave you with your conscience.

yemiosinbajo:


Lol, you keep missing my point. I understand what life in Nigeria is, and I know how it is in the US. Now, the issue with the US is this: all the luxury things you mentioned are not free. You pay for every damn service you get here. You cannot compare the electricity bills we pay here to what you pay in nigeria. How about all the insurance fees that we don't even use but are compulsory? Rent nko? Now, if you have a good job, you will be able to pay for these services comfortably. But how will you get that good job? It starts by being here legally, and by having all the legal papers it requires to get a job. If you come here on a student visa, you will need to pay for all these services, but you will not be allowed to work to be able to pay for them. Imagine, as a student, you got to pay for everything you get, but you are not allowed to work! So, where will you find the money to pay for them? You will need to depend on money from naija, which you and I know will not be possible because of the exchange rate and the fact that you left naija because you had no money. So, what happens when you live in the US with all the amenities you enjoy but are unable to pay for them? Bills start to fly in, your credit report is affected. You are evicted, taken to court. Remember you have no legal papers to work. Your punishment will be a deportation. So, in order to prevent this situation, what do you do? You try to work by all means despite not having the authorization. Then, you will have to do fake SSN, fake work permits, etc, just to survive. You still have to pay your tuition also. Therefore, you will begin to feel what it really means to be in hell in america. Then, if you get caught, you will be deported. If not, you cannot pay your tuition, so you will fall out of status. Then, you will start looking for someone to marry. Trust me, you don't want to find yourself in this situation because it's worse that I described. At this point you are already stuck in the US and cannot return to naija. If you complain, people in Naija will start why can't you come home if life is hard for you there? They will think you are lying. They don't know you are stuck. I know Nigerians are really determined, and you may still pull it through. But man, you will wish you were in naija when this reality sets it. It will take a while before you pull it through. This is why you need to plan very well before you come here as a non-immigrant. If you are coming as an immigrant, it's a different scenerio bro. People like Franknetter and other sweet threads you read about America here on NL came to America as immigrants so life is different for them. Do you have what it takes to come here as an immigrant? So, don't compare yourself with them. As a non-immigrant which most Nigerians try to come here through, it's something else. You just have to take your time and plan very well.

resurgent2019:


Now you just exposed yourself as an enemy of progress for millions of Nigerians who want to leave Nigeria.

Why don’t you want progress for other Nigerians? Is it fair? I leave you with your conscience.

yemiosinbajo:


God bless you. You mentioned things many people never think about. I just talked to my family back in naija, and it's not like things are getting really worse for them. Nigeria is like an untapped talent, some people sieze the opportunity of its underdevelopment to make it big there. Many of those who come to America and make it do not even it big, they just live average, normal lives, and that's all.

djon78:



Let me say it again Africa is blessed. It is just that her citizens are just blind. We have excellent natural resources. We have even well educated workforce. The problem is just bad government.

The potential for massive growth is so massive, even better than Europe and US. Why do you think people like aliko dangote are growing massively? People may talk bad about that man but I have great respect for him. He has leveraged on the needs and demand here.

People should wake up. You are telling that guy the truth, point blank and he is saying that you are bad belle. Truth can be bitter but truth is truth.

Presently I am building my self bit by bit. I am working very hard and my target is to help as many people as possible escape poverty. I am also now finding ways to start advising government. I am not there yet. As long as God gives us life, we will reach our destiny. My personality I don't just live for myself. I am a kind of person that works for overall good. It pains me that Africans will go through Sahara desert, over Mediterranean sea all to go to Europe. Many lose there life, many pay fortune some even sell their inheritance and in the end it is just waste.

So that's why we must keep on educating then and warning them of dangers ahead. So that they will be aware.

Babyvet:


You have not secured any visa then , I’m not even asking you to mention a country . I’m just trying to figure how you are encouraging people to leave the country when you have not left yourself . You are not even sure of the proper steps to take.

yemiosinbajo:


So, you all actually think that non-citizens are eligible for all those food stamps you hear of? Do you know the implication of receiving those benefits at all?

lefulefu:
illegal immigrants are being fed by soup kitchens run by churches and philantropic groups in the US.Now for someone who studying there as a foreign student and she's a legal migrant...is she saying she's uneligble to the free soup kitchens? Yes there are problems in the West but food will be the least of their problems. They dont fight and kill themselves over food the way we nigerians fight and stab ourselves over jollof rice,pounded yam, and chicken in parties and naming ceremonies.