adonis89:


https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/muslims-groups-demand-holiday-for-islamic-new-year.html

Waheed odeyimka
Ishaq sanni
Ok oh
Cc immhotep greenback gmbuharii

Last two decades, Yoruba people suggested that the Sultan of Sokoto be renamed Sultan of Nigeria - that is Nigeria becoming a Sultanate.

So when I saw this headline, my mind quickly told me the demand might first come from Yoruba group.


But tell Yoruba to form a new country with north of Nigeria and leave the East of Nigeria alone to form a separate country from Nigeria, the average Yoruba shall say no.


Crude oil in the Nigerdelta for one Nigeria.

amaniro:



I don't hate Muslims but I hate the fact that most of them are hypnotized so therefore they need liberation.



We Christians were never taught to hate any religion rather win them for Christ. I wonder what religion would preach hatred and terror

What of years where you were killing yourselves like animals? Years you where hungry for Muslim and Jewish blood whilst shouting "God wills it"?

OkaNaUbe:


You can observe that in Northern States.

Check every country at war now, are they Christian Countries

South Sudan, Colombia, Ukraine,Honduras, Nicaragua are all Muslim nations? Was it not Christians that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? You Christians have no shame, for the Brits, this is the 3rd time they're invading Afghanistan in the last 200 years. Leave muslim lands alone Yoruba christian

Motion123:
So Gregorian Calendar as now become Christian calendar U can imagine some professors heading some of the groups. Abi Na buy dem buy the professorship

You're a dummy, if Gregorian calendar isn't Christian, what is it then? Sanyo worshippers calendar abi

bigocean:
Everything about Islam is fight/quarel. Christians too have their calendar in which January 1st, is not even their New Year... I don't just understand the spirit behind this Islam.

Olorun maje! *spits*

Yoruba Christian, I thought Muslims are one with you. Why are now criticizing what should concerned ordinary since Christians new year is 1st of January? This is one of the hypocrisy of Yoruba Christians, you're not deceiving anyone.

I'm so sorry for your not brainless self. Assuming it's true that some states in the US permit 13 year olds get married, which I doubt, when did the US - the headquarters of infidel - become a standard for u. I hope you know they have gays n strip clubs too.

When the purpose of a thing is not known, abuse becomes inevitable. When a child who's innocence is meant to be preserved, now becomes a sex thing, let's go on to blame poor medical facilities, guess it's all part of being brainy.

IbnAbdullah1:


Some of you are really brainless.
You were the ones who started the digression, so why blame me?
Did the girls complain to you.
VVF is not as a result of a young girls getting married it is a as a result of lack of health facilities to take care of such healthy complications.
There are states in the USA presently were young girls as old as 13 years get married and have children successfully without problems.

You can accuse the North of this, but not so in Saudi Arabia where people still get married early.
please, look for another lie.

YorubaMuslims:



THE KILLINGS WON'T STOP EVEN IF NIGERIA BREAKS UP, MUSLIMS WILL START KILLING THEMSELVES

The whole irony is Christians have for generations be killing and persecuting other Christians.

The orthodox Christians persecuted and killed Nestorian, Unitarian and Coptic Christians.
The orthodox and Catholics were known to kill each other, with one even sacking Constantinople.
Orthodox Croatian Christians were known to kill and persecute Serbian Catholics during World war 2
Serbian Catholics returned the favor during the Bosnian war but also included Muslims who had nothing to do with the feud.
Catholics and Protestants are known to kill each other, in fact I'm the 16th century, the killed 8 million people from amongst themselves. Catholics and Protestants even had clashes as recent as 2013 in Ireland.

Go and read your history slowpoke, even if Muslims fight amongst themselves, it cannot be compared to Christians.

ollah2:


https://www.nairaland.com/4716800/pastor-daniel-udoh-arrested-raping


This thread made front page yesterday and nobody attacked Christianity or what they hold dear. A simple thread about a request from a Muslim group has resulted into curses or everything that has to do with Islam
These are the same people that say they are tolerant. They are the same people that ask se.un why there is an inscription on Islamic threads. They are the same people that shout Islamisation agenda yet they attack Muslims on every thread that hits the front page. No single Islamic thread has been on front page without Muslims being attacked. They are the same people that still turn around and call Muslims bigots and intolerant people. .

Believe me, Nigerian Christians (Yoruba and Igbo) are bigots of the highest order. Can you imagine this nonsense? What exactly have we done to deserve this? Gosh, this is getting too much!

goshen26:


The major trouble in the world is caused bydescedant of Ishmael....except u don't wanna say it

So descendants of Ishmael started the 1st and 2nd world war that killed more than 150million people?

Descendants of Ishmael were the ones that enslaved and killed thousands of Africans, native Indians and other aboriginals?

EmirAbj:
They won't, Xtians are rebel, hypocrite, I hate dem

Yoh wont live long with all that hate. Im sure most christians will lile the idea . An opportunity for an extra day of rest.

TheLogicalMind:


Abraham had one wife, Sarah. Hagar was a surrogate whose only duty was to bear a child for him,which was actually Sarah's idea, NOT Abraham's.
Abraham only married Keturah after Sarah's death. He NEVR had more than one wife at a time.
As for sexual perversion, we know who the main culprits are:

abraham had three solid wives (Sarah, Hagar and keturah) according to your bible and there's no place in your bible that tells you to marry one wife. I challenge you to disprove me

ollah2:


https://www.nairaland.com/4716800/pastor-daniel-udoh-arrested-raping


This thread made front page yesterday and nobody attacked Christianity or what they hold dear. A simple thread about a request from a Muslim group has resulted into curses or everything that has to do with Islam
These are the same people that say they are tolerant. They are the same people that ask se.un why there is an inscription on Islamic threads. They are the same people that shout Islamisation agenda yet they attack Muslims on every thread that hits the front page. No single Islamic thread has been on front page without Muslims being attacked. They are the same people that still turn around and call Muslims bigots and intolerant people. .

Cant blame them. Its not like they get shown much love from Muslims. You cant be calling people infidels and expect them to love you in return

Demmzy15:
Believe me, Nigerian Christians (Yoruba and Igbo) are bigots of the highest order. Can you imagine this nonsense? What exactly have we done to deserve this? Gosh, this is getting too much!

I guess they learnt from the best

masseratti:
Nigeria already had one of the highest rate of holidays in a calendar year, besides granting this holiday to the Muslims will make them have one extra holiday because a pope designed the Western calendar does not make it Christian it has more to do with academic than religious gregorian calendar secular, its the nearest accurate records for the earth revolution around the sun.

You see why many of you don't have sense, a pope designed a calendar yet it isn't Christian. Does that even mak any sense to you? The calendar was by pope Gregory to keep record of important Christian holidays like Easter, Christians ,etc

nextstep:
January 1 is not a religious holiday, so why are these groups demanding a "muslim holiday" for the the marker of a complete orbit around the Sun*? They should go and ask Julius Caesar, of Roman times, why he made that decision, to which he might reply:

"I thought it would be appropriate for the god Janus (from which January is derived) to be the usher to a new year. The actual position in the year is rather arbitrary, but perhaps midway between when the days are shortening to when they are getting longer again (Winter vs Spring in Rome) seems a logical choice."

Some cultures celebrated New Year in March, and others in September (equinox depending on if you're in the Northern or Southern hemisphere), and some on the shortest day of the year (Winter Solstices, around December 20). However, those cultures didn't have the dominance of the Roman Empire, so...

*Though due to a miscalculation (actually not keeping enough decimal places) in the number of days in a year (Romans thought 365.25, it's 365.242199), Jan 1 slipped by 11 minutes every year. That was fixed by the Gregorian civil calendar (named after Pope Gregory XIII), who introduced it in October 1582. ... To deal with the 10 days of accumulated drift, the date was advanced so that 4 October 1582 was followed by 15 October 1582.

DUmmy, this calendar is pope Gregory not Julius Caesar. That of Julius Caesar is known as the Julian calendar, while the one we use is by Pope Gregory. Know the difference.

Demmzy15:
You're a dummy, if Gregorian calendar isn't Christian, what is it then? Sanyo worshippers calendar abi

Mr. Man. Dont let hatred cloud your judgement. There is nothing chirstian about that new year. If it is , show us where in the bible it was writte that January 1st is a holy day. Christians use that day to go thank God for another year.

PrecisionFx:


They should first leave nigeria, Form an islamic caliphate and then declare Friday every week mosque public holidays

Very stupi'd statement from a fool. They should leave nigeria? Are they not indigenous to nigeria? Abi the forex you're doing is affecting your brain?

Jaqenhghar:

Mr. Man. Dont let hatred cloud your judgement. There is nothing chirstian about that new year. If it is , show us where in the bible it was writte that January 1st is a holy day. Christians use that day to go thank God for another year.

Can you also show me where it is written that December 25th was the day Jesus was born and also why do y'all celebrate his birthday when he never mentioned or encouraged you to do such

Demmzy15:
DUmmy, this calendar is pope Gregory not Julius Caesar. That of Julius Caesar is known as the Julian calendar, while the one we use is by Pope Gregory. Know the difference.

Funny, I thought I'd explained the origin for New Year, and also why the month is called January. I didn't state that we currently use the Julian calendar, and explicitly mentioned the changes and reasons why we use the Gregorian calendar now. To reiterate:

Janus, Julius, Augustus are names, among others, given to months by Julius Caesar, who established the basis for the calendar we use now. By the time of Pope Gregory, the slight inaccuracy of calculating the exact number of days (down to a few thousandth) in a year led to Spring/planting season happening later and later (relatively to the equinox, and onset of Spring thaw, among other concerns). To fix the error, Pope Gregory commissioned a refinement to more accurately reflect the length of a year. From the wikipedia article on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

"The Gregorian calendar ... is named after Pope Gregory XIII, who introduced it in October 1582. The calendar spaces leap years to make the average year 365.2425 days long, approximating the 365.2422 day tropical year that is determined by the Earth's revolution around the Sun. The rule for leap years is as follows:

Every year that is exactly divisible by four is a leap year, except for years that are exactly divisible by 100, but these centurial years are leap years if they are exactly divisible by 400. For example, the years 1700, 1800, and 1900 are not leap years, but the year 2000 is.

The calendar was developed as a refinement of the Julian calendar, shortening the average year by 0.0075 days to stop the drift of the calendar with respect to the equinoxes. To deal with the 10 days of accumulated drift, the date was advanced so that 4 October 1582 was followed by 15 October 1582."

Of course, even this is not as precise as we'd like in the modern age, which is why we have the concept of leap seconds which accounts for the fact that Earth's rotation is slowing down... very important when talking about precise timekeeping, GPS, and satellites orbiting fast enough where the effects of "Special Relativity" start being noticeable.

I happen to know this because I spent three years working on time-precision embedded computer systems, almost a decade ago, so I can assure you that I know the difference.

Gloriagee:
I'm so sorry for your not brainless self. Assuming it's true that some states in the US permit 13 year olds get married, which I doubt, when did the US - the headquarters of infidel - become a standard for u. I hope you know they have gays n strip clubs too.

When the purpose of a thing is not known, abuse becomes inevitable. When a child who's innocence is meant to be preserved, now becomes a sex thing, let's go on to blame poor medical facilities, guess it's all part of being brainy.

Children as young as 13 years get married in America, this is a country where more than 70% are Christians. And he's not using it as a standard, he was exposing the hypocrisy of you and your ilks. And in case you don't Know, young marriages was a norm during the old times. The Jews, Muslims and even Christians practiced it. So don't be a hypocrite.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/13/yes-children-still-legally-able-married-all-across-united-states/419419002/

Jaqenhghar:

Cant blame them. Its not like they get shown much love from Muslims. You cant be calling people infidels and expect them to love you in return

Muslims don't call you infidels, the reverse is the case. Christians were the ones who called Muslims, Christians from other sects and Jews infidels. We call you Kuffar which literally means "one who covers". The night covers the day, so don't erroneously assume something, you people started calling us infidels. And Kuffar doesn't mean infidel

nextstep:


Funny, I thought I'd explained the origin for New Year, and also why the month is called January. I didn't state that we currently use the Julian calendar, and explicitly mentioned the changes and reasons why we use the Gregorian calendar now. To reiterate:

Janus, Julius, Augustus are names, among others, given to months by Julius Caesar, who established the basis for the calendar we use now. By the time of Pope Gregory, the slight inaccuracy of calculating the exact number of days (down to a few thousandth) in a year led to Spring/planting season happening later and later (relatively to the equinox, and onset of Spring thaw, among other concerns). To fix the error, Pope Gregory commissioned a refinement to more accurately reflect the length of a year. From the wikipedia article on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

"The Gregorian calendar ... is named after Pope Gregory XIII, who introduced it in October 1582. The calendar spaces leap years to make the average year 365.2425 days long, approximating the 365.2422 day tropical year that is determined by the Earth's revolution around the Sun. The rule for leap years is as follows:

Every year that is exactly divisible by four is a leap year, except for years that are exactly divisible by 100, but these centurial years are leap years if they are exactly divisible by 400. For example, the years 1700, 1800, and 1900 are not leap years, but the year 2000 is.

The calendar was developed as a refinement of the Julian calendar, shortening the average year by 0.0075 days to stop the drift of the calendar with respect to the equinoxes. To deal with the 10 days of accumulated drift, the date was advanced so that 4 October 1582 was followed by 15 October 1582."

Of course, even this is not as precise as we'd like in the modern age, which is why we have the concept of leap seconds which accounts for the fact that Earth's rotation is slowing down... very important when talking about precise timekeeping, GPS, and satellites orbiting fast enough where the effects of "Special Relativity" start being noticeable.

I happen to know this because I spent three years working on time-precision embedded computer systems, almost a decade ago, so I can assure you that I know the difference.

The reason for the adjustment by Pope Gregory was because of Christian holidays:

The Gregorian calendar was a reform of the Julian calendar. It was instituted in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by papal bull Inter gravissimas dated 24 February 1582.[4] The motivation for the adjustment was to bring the date for the celebration of Easter to the time of year in which it was celebrated when it was introduced by the early Church. The error in the Julian calendar (its assumption that there are exactly 365.25 days in a year) had led to the date of the equinox according to the calendar drifting from the observed reality, and thus an error had been introduced into the calculation of the date of Easter. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

So I'm still very much correct, and as for the names not being changed, the the only possible reason is the pope was okay with it. As it is known that early Christianity adopted many pagan customs and so they saw nothing wrong with this. So the Gregorian calendar is a Christian calendar because it was developed solely on Christian holidays!

Motion123:
So Gregorian Calendar as now become Christian calendar U can imagine some professors heading some of the groups. Abi Na buy dem buy the professorship

Demmzy15:
You're a dummy, if Gregorian calendar isn't Christian, what is it then? Sanyo worshippers calendar abi

Jaqenhghar:

Mr. Man. Dont let hatred cloud your judgement. There is nothing chirstian about that new year. If it is , show us where in the bible it was writte
that January 1st is a holy day. Christians use that day to go thank God for another year.

Demmzy15:
Can you also show me where it is written that December 25th was the day Jesus was born and also why do y'all celebrate his birthday when he never mentioned or encouraged you to do such

These significant dates are a result of the interplay between institution/civil administration, traditional culture based on nature/planting/harvesting/seasons, as well as work by the Church.

January 1 gets its origins from the Romans/civil administration.

December 25th has its origins in a pagan celebration of the Sun (just after the Winter solstice and the days are now getting longer, and makes people hopeful for a brighter Spring, after three months of short, cold, dark Winter days). There was already a festival way before the Church adopted it for the celebration of the birth of Jesus.

If Islam had been more dominant (it's about 700+ years younger) - and had continued to pursue science and maths instead of becoming ultra-conservative - it might have determined the dates and when the celebrations happened around the world. After all we owe a lot of things to the medieval Islamic world - geometry, trigonometry, algebra, the numeric system, logic, and so much more. It just so happened that Islam entered it's own Dark Ages just as the Christian West was exiting its own, and didn't go on to provide the standard for commerce, shipping, navigation, or modern science. Perhaps around the year 2400, the Islamic ultra-conservatism will exit the Dark age.

nextstep:








These significant dates are a result of the interplay between institution/civil administration, traditional culture based on nature/planting/harvesting/seasons, as well as work by the Church.

January 1 gets its origins from the Romans/civil administration.

December 25th has its origins in a pagan celebration of the Sun (just after the Winter solstice and the days are now getting longer, and makes people hopeful for a brighter Spring, after three months of short, cold, dark Winter days). There was already a festival way before the Church adopted it for the celebration of the birth of Jesus.

If Islam had been more dominant - and had continued to pursue science and maths instead of becoming ultra-conservative - it might have determined the dates and when the celebrations happened around the world. It just so happened that Islam entered it's own Dark Ages just as the Christian West was exiting its own.

So you're saying Islam had nothing to with science, maths, medicine, etc?

There's nothing hypocritical about me. I don't subscribe to under 18s getting married and I'm not interested in looking for cases that are the exception rather than the norm to defend something that is beneficial to greedy n self depraved men.

Demmzy15:
Children as young as 13 years get married in America, this is a country where more than 70% are Christians. And he's not using it as a standard, he was exposing the hypocrisy of you and your ilks. And in case you don't Know, young marriages was a norm during the old times. The Jews, Muslims and even Christians practiced it. So don't be a hypocrite.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/13/yes-children-still-legally-able-married-all-across-united-states/419419002/

Demmzy15:
So you're saying Islam had nothing to with science, maths, medicine, etc?

Actually, a lot of the basis for modern scientific thought, maths, and medicine were formed by the Islamic world while the Europeans were ultra-devoted to religion. I've edited my post to reflect this. As the Christian world stopped thinking only of the afterlife and religion (and started thinking about the here and now), the Muslim world reverted from it's enlightened age into suppression and conservatism.

Demmzy15:
The reason for the adjustment by Pope Gregory was because of Christian holidays:

The Gregorian calendar was a reform of the Julian calendar. It was instituted in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by papal bull Inter gravissimas dated 24 February 1582.[4] The motivation for the adjustment was to bring the date for the celebration of Easter to the time of year in which it was celebrated when it was introduced by the early Church. The error in the Julian calendar (its assumption that there are exactly 365.25 days in a year) had led to the date of the equinox according to the calendar drifting from the observed reality, and thus an error had been introduced into the calculation of the date of Easter. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

So I'm still very much correct, and as for the names not being changed, the the only possible reason is the pope was okay with it. As it is known that early Christianity adopted many pagan customs and so they saw nothing wrong with this. So the Gregorian calendar is a Christian calendar because it was developed solely on Christian holidays!

... and Easter is a Spring festival ... rebirth, new baby rabbits, green tree branches, planting season... things that happen way before anybody died and rose (conveniently during the festival of rebirth, after the death of winter). They're all quite intertwined, really.

So yes, it's a "Christian calendar" in that the Church was the government of the day. I don't think the decision was made in isolation of pagan traditions nor of the cycles of nature in northern Europe (which is quite different from the climate of Jerusalem, which maybe sees 1 or 2 days of snow per year).

If it had happened - say during Roman times (or the Romans were able to stamp out the upstart religion called Christianity), or later at the behest of the British Empire... we wouldn't necessarily call it a "Christian Calendar".

As you point out, the Gregorian Calendar kept most of the elements of the Julian one, because the Julian actually made sense from the start, just a few adjustments due to inaccuracies. The change would have happened with or without the Church eventually.

This people keep on causing Problems all over the World and they are not even tired of causing more problem. This is ignorance from the highest order. It will impress you to know that Buhari will grant it.

Pls is 1st January for Christians or any Religious Group? This guys are ignorance indeed

January 1st have no religious affiliation...

GoTV:
Even though I'm a born again Christian I believe Islam is the best religion That pleases almighty Allah

Please, what does it mean to be a born again Christian?