kikuyu1:


The original Marauder and Casspir are my all time fav MRAPs! Protection,mobility and power are the best. There was a pic of a Casspir arse deep in mud somewhere in E DRC pulling out another Cass.

I too favour the Marauder, the customers are doing a great job with modifications.

A closer look at the Umkhonto IR, I'm actually surprised by it's size (if this is the actual scale).

Algerian navy will get 4 new OPV , Project 22160

The first one should be delivred this year according to reports .

1700 tons , 94 m equipped with the Club-N missile system and with the Palma anti-aircraft system, including the Sosna guided missiles.

GreenandGold:


I too favour the Marauder, the customers are doing a great job with modifications.

You forgot the mods done for the Singaporeans.

frumentius:


You forgot the mods done for the Singaporeans.

of course, the Singaporeans.

All the Denel missiles on show. First time seeing some of these;

- Ingwe ATGM
- Mokopa ASM
- A-Darter SRAAM
- Umkhonto-IR & Umkhonto-EIR SAMs
- Impi ASM (drone missile)
- Cheetah & Mongoose-3 C-RAM SAMs
- Marlin BVR AAM / LRSAM

Look at the size of the Impi missile, Shaka Zulu would be happy

Pics: Darren Olivier

There aren't too many pics of the Impi missile publicly available, and it was developed virtually in secrecy compared to the other missile programs. Mix & match of other Denel missile components.

One partially unrelated news...
ROSOBORONEXPORT, the main export arm for Russian hardware is under US sanction for propping up Assad.

What are the possible implications if Nigeria goes to Russia for weapons while we're still awaiting Tucano jets?

GreenandGold:
Communication equipment from a local supplier, which made me think of Namibian and Nigerian radio communications companies which I haven't seen on display

ssaengine:
There aren't too many pics of the Impi missile publicly available, and it was developed virtually in secrecy compared to the other missile programs. Mix & match of other Denel missile components.

I read the Saudis are using it in Yemen for "high value" targets.

Kilo 636 M , algerian navy

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ViceAdmirlAgain:

Thanks bro

Then there's the Denel Badger IFV Mortar Variat, I don't think we've seen this in public before. That's about 6km of mortar fire range.

Another mortar carrier in a form of the Hornet RDV for the SASFB. For the uninitiated, this is mostly a behind the enemy lines SF RD-ATV (hence the small size). So one can use it to sneak into concealed positions and launch mortar shells on an enemy target. Eg fuel stations, enemy aircrafts as soon as they leave hangers, communication centers, etc. Also, you can use it to cover retreating oparators or simply playing routine disruption on the enemy then vanish into some thicket.

They sacrificed range for warhead size. It's about twice the weight of its competitors.
You need lots of HE to kill some of the giant Russian anti-ship missiles out there.
That's why they wanted to modify it for surface-to-surface targets like small boats etc. I'm not aware of any naval missile that can also take on surface targets. The Raytheon SM-6 can ,but its the size of a exocet.

GreenandGold:
A closer look at the Umkhonto IR, I'm actually surprised by it's size (if this is the actual scale).

Problem with using the Ingwe motor from the parts bin is that you wont be able to hang 2 missiles next to each other. The rocket burn will damage the one next to it. I guess they'll use it on smaller UCAVS and market the one based on the Mokopa on bigger ones.

ssaengine:
There aren't too many pics of the Impi missile publicly available, and it was developed virtually in secrecy compared to the other missile programs. Mix & match of other Denel missile components.

61mech:
Problem with using the Ingwe motor from the parts bin is that you wont be able to hang 2 missiles next to each other. The rocket burn will damage the one next to it. I guess they'll use it on smaller UCAVS and market the one based on the Mokopa on bigger ones.

Yes. On the Seeker 400 they sit on opposite hard points away from each other.

SAAF instructors

A Darter displaying its intended design agility

ssaengine:


Yes. On the Seeker 400 they sit on opposite hard points away from each other.

Yep. The Seeker Snyper carries 2 on opposite hard points.
Fun fact: what's the name of the "Saudi armed UAV" that's suspiciously very similar to the Seeker and has been using Impis to take out HVTs in Yemen ?

Brings to mind this story, which I think is the most note-worthy to come out of AAD2018 (apparently AAD as one of the top 15 military shows on the planet is comparable to some shows held on the continent ): a potential game-changer for the SA Defence Industry if this come to fruition.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53184:saudi-arabia-turns-to-south-africa-to-bolster-its-defence-industry&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

ssaengine:
A Darter displaying its intended design agility

Was about to attach this: Successful A-Darter Guided Qualification Flight Test

http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9930#p120277

ssaengine:
SAAF instructors

I actually approve of our peace-time practice of sending 2 Squadron Gripen pilots down to the various schools to work as instructors, leaving 9-12 pilots at 2 Sq. The top command element of the air component currently here in the DRC, for example, are all 2 Sq Grip pilots.

Where I do quibble however, is that the 6 months they're supposed to go back to 2 Sq to maintain currency, is now 9 months .

GreenandGold:


The approach angle is good, the front wheels are far forward. The only concern is that low bumper where the registration plate is at, its unnecessary.

yeah that's the approach angle mate......the low bumper decreases the approach angle.

GreenandGold:
Another mortar carrier in a form of the Hornet RDV for the SASFB. For the uninitiated, this is mostly a behind the enemy lines SF RD-ATV (hence the small size). So one can use it to sneak into concealed positions and launch mortar shells on an enemy target. Eg fuel stations, enemy aircrafts as soon as they leave hangers, communication centers, etc. Also, you can use it to cover retreating oparators or simply playing routine disruption on the enemy then vanish into some thicket.

The mortar system on Hornets is currently being upgraded to the Scorpion system which was acquired in 2017. Details:

The Scorpion mobile mortar system is now ready for production and can be delivered to the South African armed forces. The mortar system and the onboard fire control system was fully developed by Thales South Africa.
At AAD 2016, the Thales Scorpion mortar system was mounted on a 4x4 Toyota Land Cruiser, but the mortar system can be easily fitted on other similar vehicles.

Scorpion is an integrated automated mobile mortar platform, capable of target acquisition, onboard fire control, and automatic laying of the mortar tube.

Mounted on a single palletised platform, it fires from the back of a vehicle in less than 15 seconds. This is made possible through ballistics calculations, orientation methods and recoil absorption.

The Scorpion can operate in day or night conditions. It boasts direct and indirect fire capabilities with high accuracy (pointing and positioning), improved responsiveness and rapid target switching (shoot, shift, shoot).It has a high first round hit probability and is digitally connected to the battlefield.

The scorpion can be networked together into a fire group to provide an highly effective force multiplier.

61mech doesn't like the automatic loader and neither do the Recces. They're only opting for the automatic laying and aiming, which is why the project isn't yet complete as Thales SA now has to rejig the fire control system.

jln115:
yeah that's the approach angle mate......the low bumper decreases the approach angle.

All of this is academic, as I suspect Milkor will only be selling grenade launchers and armour sights for the conceivable future.

frumentius:


All of this is academic, as I suspect Milkor will only be selling grenade launchers and armour sights for the conceivable future.

imo i don't think they ever intended to enter the mrap market.....think this was more of a vanity project to see if they actually posses the technical know how to produce a mrap if they wanted to.

jln115:
imo i don't think they ever intended to enter the mrap market.....think this was more of a vanity project to see if they actually posses the technical know how to produce a mrap if they wanted to.

It's not just APCs. UAVs, boats, EW, and battle management systems are all products they've recently launched. Ever since the Turks -accused of embezzling $500m by Erdogan - bought a sizeable stake in the company.

I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the new owners. I think they dumped a lot of money into the company to turn it into Paramount "light"

jln115:
imo i don't think they ever intended to enter the mrap market.....think this was more of a vanity project to see if they actually posses the technical know how to produce a mrap if they wanted to.

Nigeria

61mech:
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the new owners. I think they dumped a lot of money into the company to turn it into Paramount "light"

Yep. What I still can't puzzle out is why they're sinking so much wonga into prototypes with no prospects of orders. Unless they've inflated their R & D costs in some sophisticated scam to launder the $500m that the dictator Erdogan accused them of embezzling out of Turkey.
They're seemingly exactly the sort of investors our defence industry doesn't need!

PICS: SANDF unrelated

BlackBaron:
One partially unrelated news...
ROSOBORONEXPORT, the main export arm for Russian hardware is under US sanction for propping up Assad.

What are the possible implications if Nigeria goes to Russia for weapons while we're still awaiting Tucano jets?

Our military would be sanctioned by the US. They did same to China recently.

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