https://www.compellingtruth.org/amp/human-soul.html says about Soul

"The human soul is eternal and imperishable, and every human soul will be somewhere for eternity. This is a sobering thought— every person you have ever met is a soul, living in a body, and that soul will last forever. "


Gotquestion, another popular website says regarding the soul



" The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/human-soul.html

From the definitions above, The human soul is the Person . as compelling truth analyses You are only " living in a body "

Using this context for this discussion:

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

If the above postulations are Correct, Can you prove that the person called Jesus Died for your sins ? Or ordinary body ?

Cc : AlBHAGDADI , vocnewsblog , suregallove , Emusan , premiumwriter , OneJ , Tatime , dreality , charliboy654 , firebomber , Truthhurts100 , Jesse01

Barristter07:
https://www.compellingtruth.org/amp/human-soul.html says about Soul

"The human soul is eternal and imperishable, and every human soul will be somewhere for eternity. This is a sobering thought— every person you have ever met is a soul, living in a body, and that soul will last forever. "


Gotquestion, another popular website says regarding the soul



" The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/human-soul.html

From the definitions above, The human soul is the Person . as compelling truth analyses You are only " living in a body "

Using this context for this discussion:

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

If the above postulations are Correct, Can you prove that the person called Jesus Died for your sins ? Or ordinary body ?

Cc : AlBHAGDADI , vocnewsblog , suregallove , Emusan , premiumwriter , OneJ , Tatime , dreality , charliboy654 , firebomber , Truthhurts100 , Jesse01

Jesus was born a living soul, by Mary his mother. He lived for about 33 yrs & became a dead soul (he died for the ransom of mankind from sin & death) but God resurrected him.("thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ,Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27,31 KJV).

Any living person is a living soul & a dead person is a dead soul. James 2:26. ( Pls Google"soul in the Bible" wikipedia) . The Wikipedia gives U the historical antecedents of immortal soul belief & what the Bible says about the soul. ).
Your body & soul na the same,according to the Bible ,(Eccl 3:18-20,Gen 3:19, "For dust you are to dust will return" or U wanna claim that God lied to Adam ?
Eccl 12:7 did not say the soul goes somewhere, but the breath of life (the spirit,life force) returns to God who gave it at creation of Adam. Gen 2:7, James 2:26.

The soul that sinneth shall die.
In like manner, the soul that is justified righteous (by Christ Jesus) shall live.
No be rocket science.
Shalom.

Barristter07:
https://www.compellingtruth.org/amp/human-soul.html says about Soul

"The human soul is eternal and imperishable, and every human soul will be somewhere for eternity. This is a sobering thought— every person you have ever met is a soul, living in a body, and that soul will last forever. "


Gotquestion, another popular website says regarding the soul



" The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/human-soul.html

From the definitions above, The human soul is the Person . as compelling truth analyses You are only " living in a body "

Using this context for this discussion:

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

If the above postulations are Correct, Can you prove that the person called Jesus Died for your sins ? Or ordinary body ?

This is the actual part I want to address because here is your mistake, you added your own assumption where the writer didn't.

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

From the above two link you provided I came with this part that either you deliberately ignored or couldn't understand.

compellingthetruth.org "The human soul is that part of a person that is eternal —the part that lives on after the body dies and decays."

gotquestions.org "Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical."

What was your own assumption? You assumed that THE PERSON is mainly the SOUL whereas both articles established that the SOUL is PART of that person.

NOTE: Emphasis must be placed here, the only condition SOUL can be also referred to as PERSON is after DEATH where the SOUL is now the actual person in the SPIRIT REALM.

You got it wrong when you think people only refer to soul as person including when the person is still alive.

gotquewtions.org said this "The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being.

To your question, Jesus person died for our sin by giving His BODY!

Now my question, if SOUL is just the person, why did Bible never use the word SOUL for Jesus sacrifice?

OneJ:
Jesus was born a living soul, by Mary his mother. He lived for about 33 yrs & became a dead soul (he died for the ransom of mankind from sin & death) but God resurrected him.("thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ,Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27,31 KJV).

You agree that Jesus BODY was not left in hell...

Why do you also agreed that ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection?

Any living person is a living soul & a dead person is a dead soul. James 2:26. ( Pls Google"soul in the Bible" wikipedia) . The Wikipedia gives U the historical antecedents of immortal soul belief & what the Bible says about the soul. ).
Your body & soul na the same,according to the Bible ,(Eccl 3:18-20,Gen 3:19, "For dust you are to dust will return" or U wanna claim that God lied to Adam ?
Eccl 12:7 did not say the soul goes somewhere, but the breath of life (the spirit,life force) returns to God who gave it at creation of Adam. Gen 2:7, James 2:26.

The soul that sinneth shall die.
In like manner, the soul that is justified righteous (by Christ Jesus) shall live.
No be rocket science.
Shalom.

Why was ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection then? According to your belief!

OneJ:


Jesus was born a living soul, by Mary his mother. He lived for about 33 yrs & became a dead soul (he died for the ransom of mankind from sin & death) but God resurrected him.("thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ,Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27,31 KJV).

Any living person is a living soul & a dead person is a dead soul. James 2:26. ( Pls Google"soul in the Bible" wikipedia) . The Wikipedia gives U the historical antecedents of immortal soul belief & what the Bible says about the soul. ).
Your body & soul na the same,according to the Bible ,(Eccl 3:18-20,Gen 3:19, "For dust you are to dust will return" or U wanna claim that God lied to Adam ?
Eccl 12:7 did not say the soul goes somewhere, but the breath of life (the spirit,life force) returns to God who gave it at creation of Adam. Gen 2:7, James 2:26.

The soul that sinneth shall die.
In like manner, the soul that is justified righteous (by Christ Jesus) shall live.
No be rocket science.
Shalom.

JW?

Barristter07:
https://www.compellingtruth.org/amp/human-soul.html says about Soul

"The human soul is eternal and imperishable, and every human soul will be somewhere for eternity. This is a sobering thought— every person you have ever met is a soul, living in a body, and that soul will last forever. "


Gotquestion, another popular website says regarding the soul



" The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/human-soul.html

From the definitions above, The human soul is the Person . as compelling truth analyses You are only " living in a body "

Using this context for this discussion:

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

If the above postulations are Correct, Can you prove that the person called Jesus Died for your sins ? Or ordinary body ?

All these JW guys, I thought we already settled this.

Jehovah's witnesses say the human is the soul and that when a person dies, that is his end because the soul dies. They believe the soul doesn't go on living. That means if a man kills a Jehovah's witness, he has destroyed his soul. But is that what Jesus said?

Mathew 10:28

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

If the soul can be killed by humans, why then did Jesus say they can't destroy the soul? The above verse shows Jesus putting a clear distinction between the body and soul. But heretic Jehovah's witnesses say the soul dies when a man dies.

His Body.

Little by little people are researching and asking questions.. Sooner or later the scam will be laid bare.. Christianity can not survive the next 25 years in Nigeria.. And even the world..

Our dark age will soon end.. That I am 100% sure of.

Emusan:


This is the actual part I want to address because here is your mistake, you added your own assumption where the writer didn't.



From the above two link you provided I came with this part that either you deliberately ignored or couldn't understand.

compellingthetruth.org "The human soul is that part of a person that is eternal —the part that lives on after the body dies and decays."

gotquestions.org "Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical."

What was your own assumption? You assumed that THE PERSON is mainly the SOUL whereas both articles established that the SOUL is PART of that person.

NOTE: Emphasis must be placed here, the only condition SOUL can be also referred to as PERSON is after DEATH where the SOUL is now the actual person in the SPIRIT REALM.

You got it wrong when you think people only refer to soul as person including when the person is still alive.

gotquewtions.org said this "The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being.

Shows how confused they are , I never assumed anything.

Based on this statement made by compelling truth , " every person you have ever met IS A SOUL , living in a body . emphasis on " living in " shows clear distinction that the body is not the person.

The person is that Soul , living in that body ... Do you agree with this ?

To your question, Jesus person died for our sin by giving His BODY!

Means he never died .

He was living in a body , Agree ?

Now my question, if SOUL is just the person, why did Bible never use the word SOUL for Jesus sacrifice?

It did . Isaiah 53:11,12

alBHAGDADI:

[s]
All these JW guys, I thought we already settled this.

Jehovah's witnesses say the human is the soul and that when a person dies, that is his end because the soul dies. They believe the soul doesn't go on living. That means if a man kills a Jehovah's witness, he has destroyed his soul. But is that what Jesus said?

Mathew 10:28

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

If the soul can be killed by humans, why then did Jesus say they can't destroy the soul? The above verse shows Jesus putting a clear distinction between the body and soul. But heretic Jehovah's witnesses say the soul dies when a man dies [/s] .

Kindly address the question asked

Do you agree with the quotes from got question and Compelling truth website ?

orisa37:
His Body.

Oh, not Jesus right ?

Emusan:


You agree that Jesus BODY was not left in hell...

Why do you also agreed that ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection?




Why was ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection then? According to your belief!

Emusan, God did not leave Christ soul in hell."Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31.(KJV). Proof that the soul is mortal. At the risk of exposure of your falsehood, U refused to admit that Jesus was a dead soul ,who was not left in hell.

"...Christ died for sins once for all....was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit" 1 pet 3:18. 1 Cor 15:43-47.
Christ was resurrected as a spirit being (like angels), not with that physical body he had before died.
He had already given his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice for our sins. Mark 10:45. Emusan, what has been sacrificed, or U have sacrificed, is it taken back ? Yes or no.
The holy scriptures is precise about it.


"Jesus himself stood among them& said to them: peace be with you". They were startled & frightened thinking they saw a spirit".... Look at my hands& my feet. It is I myself." Luke 24:36-39.

Emusan, Christ apostles knew Jesus very well , but after his resurrection, they couldn't recognize him. Why ?

Because in order to be visible to them, Christ took on a human body without any wound,not the same body he had before death (recall that the angels who appeared to Lot, Mary Magdalene etc, took on a human bodies. Gen 19:1-3.

Barristter07:


Kindly address the question asked

Do you agree with the quotes from got question and Compelling truth website ?

I thought Emusan just exposed your dishonesty with those sites?

OneJ:


Emusan, God did not leave Christ soul in hell."Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31.(KJV). Proof that the soul is mortal. At the risk of exposure of your falsehood, U refused to admit that Jesus was a dead soul ,who was not left in hell.

"...Christ died for sins once for all....was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit" 1 pet 3:18. 1 Cor 15:43-47.
Christ was resurrected as a spirit being (like angels), not with that physical body he had before died.
He had already given his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice for our sins. Mark 10:45. Emusan, what has been sacrificed, or U have sacrificed, is it taken back ? Yes or no.
The holy scriptures is precise about it.


"Jesus himself stood among them& said to them: peace be with you". They were startled & frightened thinking they saw a spirit".... Look at my hands& my feet. It is I myself." Luke 24:36-39.

Emusan, Christ apostles knew Jesus very well , but after his resurrection, they couldn't recognize him. Why ?

Because in order to be visible to them, Christ took on a human body without any wound,not the same body he had before death (recall that the angels who appeared to Lot, Mary Magdalene etc, took on a human bodies. Gen 19:1-3.

You are contradicting yourself. You must be high off GB brainwashing.

You said Jesus was resurrected as a spirit being. Yet he made the below statement when he appeared to his disciples after resurrecting.

Luke 24:39

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

You also said after the resurrection Jesus was given a different body from the one he had before death. This contradicts your talk of him resurrecting as a spirit. Now, if Jesus got a new body quite different from what he had before death, the. how come he still had those scars he got during crucifixion?


John 20:25 & 26 27
The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Emusan:


This is the actual part I want to address because here is your mistake, you added your own assumption where the writer didn't.



From the above two link you provided I came with this part that either you deliberately ignored or couldn't understand.

compellingthetruth.org "The human soul is that part of a person that is eternal —the part that lives on after the body dies and decays."

gotquestions.org "Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical."

What was your own assumption? You assumed that THE PERSON is mainly the SOUL whereas both articles established that the SOUL is PART of that person.

NOTE: Emphasis must be placed here, the only condition SOUL can be also referred to as PERSON is after DEATH where the SOUL is now the actual person in the SPIRIT REALM.

You got it wrong when you think people only refer to soul as person including when the person is still alive.

gotquewtions.org said this "The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being.

To your question, Jesus person died for our sin by giving His BODY!

Now my question, if SOUL is just the person, why did Bible never use the word SOUL for Jesus sacrifice?

These your wayo assumptions were addressed in my first post on this thread. The bible does not support pagan ideas of ancient Greek philosophical thought.
Take your time to read & digest the truth.
To your last question:
Isaiah 53:11,12
"After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life..... my righteous servant will justify many and will bear their iniquities.... "

Barristter07:
Shows how confused they are , I never assumed anything.

Based on this statement made by compelling truth , " every person you have ever met IS A SOUL , living in a body . emphasis on " living in " shows clear distinction that the body is not the person.

The person is that Soul , living in that body ... Do you agree with this?

I have said it here times without number that the way you JWs show your dishonesty to someone's article is the same way you do to Bible.

The articles have already established that SOUL is PART OF a PERSON! So if the article later went further to talk about soul LIVING IN A BODY, how do you suppose to interpret it?

But you neglected the first point of the article and hold on to next phrase in the same breath, is that not dishonesty?

What if article like this was found in Watchtower or Awake and people quote the part that suit them, will you have agreed with them?

Means he never died .

He was living in a body , Agree ?

What is the name of that BODY?

It did . Isaiah 53:11,12

Because of his anguish, he will see and be satisfied. By means of his knowledge the righteous one, my servant, Will bring a righteous standing to many people, And their errors he will bear. For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:11-12 NWT

Where does the word SOUL appear in your own translation?

My question still remains unanswered!

Emusan:


I have said it here times without number that the way you JWs show your dishonesty to someone's article is the same way you do to Bible.

The articles have already established that SOUL is PART OF a PERSON! So if the article later went further to talk about soul LIVING IN A BODY, how do you suppose to interpret it?

But you neglected the first point of the article and hold on to next phrase in the same breath, is that not dishonesty?

What if article like this was found in Watchtower or Awake and people quote the part that suit them, will you have agreed with them?




What is the name of that BODY?


Because of his anguish, he will see and be satisfied. By means of his knowledge the righteous one, my servant, Will bring a righteous standing to many people, And their errors he will bear. For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:11-12 NWT

Where does the word SOUL appear in your own translation?

My question still remains unanswered!

Emusan is asking a question that should not arise if he had read my first post on this thread. Pls go back & read it.
U & Google dey quarrel?
https://www.biblehub.com/hebrew/5315.htm
The Hebrew word "nephesh" meaning life, soul , living being, self ,person etc.
Its Greek equivalent is 'psyche'.
A living soul is an animal or thing that breathes.

U & your crew are SERIAL LIARS.
Si eba puo....

OneJ:
God did not leave Christ soul in hell."Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31.(KJV).

Where was the body if Jehovah didn't leave it in hell?

Or simple question hard for you to answer?

Proof that the soul is mortal. At the risk of exposure of your falsehood, U refused to admit that Jesus was a dead soul ,who was not left in hell.

Imagine, I refuse to admit. why should I admit what the scripture didn't say?

Jesus says we should fear only God who can destroy bith the BODY and SOUL if both are one then Jesus is lying

"...Christ died for sins once for all....was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit" 1 pet 3:18. 1 Cor 15:43-47.
Christ was resurrected as a spirit being (like angels), not with that physical body he had before died.
He had already given his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice for our sins. Mark 10:45.[quote]

Yet Jehovah said he won't leave the SOUL (Body-according to you) in the hell (grave according to you)

So what did Jehovah do with Jesus body, if He didn't leave it in hell?

[quote]what has been sacrificed, or U have sacrificed, is it taken back? Yes or no.
The holy scriptures is precise about it.

But you quote a passage where Jehovah said He won't leave the SOUL(BODY) in hell, if Jehovah didn't take the body back WHY DIDN'T HE leave the SOUL in hell?

"Jesus himself stood among them& said to them: peace be with you". They were startled & frightened thinking they saw a spirit".... Look at my hands& my feet. It is I myself." Luke 24:36-39.

Christ apostles knew Jesus very well , but after his resurrection, they couldn't recognize him. Why ?

Because in order to be visible to them, Christ took on a human body without any wound,not the same body he had before death (recall that the angels who appeared to Lot, Mary Magdalene etc, took on a human bodies. Gen 19:1-3.

@color...still made my question unanswered.
What did Jehovah do with Jesus body since He didn't leave it in hell?

The passage you quoted in Luke 24:36-39 exposes your lie...Jesus said in the passage "Look at my hands & my feet. It is I myself."

Why is Jesus pointing their attention to in His hands & feet?
And lastly, Jesus said "IT IS I MYSELF"
why is Jesus lying when He's not the very person(body-according to you)

I have told you several times that you should stop spamming my mention, once you've already quote my post stop mentioning my name in the same post. last warning!

OneJ:
is asking a question that should not arise if he had read my first post on this thread. Pls go back & read it.
U & Google dey quarrel?
https://www.biblehub.com/hebrew/5315.htm
The Hebrew word "nephesh" meaning life, soul , living being, self ,person etc.
Its Greek equivalent is 'psyche'.
A living soul is an animal or thing that breathes.

U & your crew are SERIAL LIARS.
Si eba puo....

I'll only expose your ignorance about one word with different meanings especially in Hebrew as this relates to our discussion.

1. The word shemayim: it means; heaven, sky, visible heavens, heaven as realm of the stars.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

2. The word • ’eretz: can mean; land (1543 times in KJV), earth (712 times), country (140 times), way (3 times), ground.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

3.The word raqia: can mean; extended (solid) surface, vault of heaven supporting waters above, firmament, dome, vault.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

Let me stop here because they're many.
Now. you can see the reason why one Hebrew word can have different meanings for different purposes depending on the content but you people will ignore the content and cherry pick anything that suit you.

Lastly, one thing you failed to realize is that Hebrew word both have the same view for physical and spiritual, this can be seen from example I gave above.

Can you see now that the word "nephesh" have different words with different meanings including physical and spiritual?

Emusan:


Where was the body if Jehovah didn't leave it in hell?

Or simple question hard for you to answer?



Imagine, I refuse to admit. why should I admit what the scripture didn't say?

Jesus says we should fear only God who can destroy bith the BODY and SOUL if both are one then Jesus is lying

.
"Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31 gives U, Emusan, the precise answer: God resurrected Jesus from hell on the 3rd day , to live as a spirit being.
"He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit " 1 pet 3:18. 1 cor 15:43-47.
Christ offered his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice Mark 10:45.

Christ offered his soul, perfect life as a sacrifice to ransom mankind from bandage of sin & death.
Emusan, if made a sacrifice, can U take your sacrifice back ?
The person who pays a ransom to secure the release of his friend, does he get that ransom back ?
what Jesus paid as ransom sacrifice, he did not take it back.
Emusan, why is this so hard for U to understand?
Jesus said be afraid of the One who can destroy both body & soul. Matt 10:28. By that, Jesus already confirmed that the soul is NOT immortal.
Pls note the word Christ used : "both body & soul " , he emphasized that both are together , still the same thing.
Christ is showing us that his Father has the authority to destroy the soul,that is termination of the wicked man's prospect of eternal life.
For instance, the destruction of the wicked souls of Noah's day with a great deluge.
Abeg go enrol for English language tutorial. U need am well well.
Pray to receive God's spirit of understanding & wisdom .

Emusan:
I have told you several times that you should stop spamming my mention, once you've already quote my post stop mentioning my name in the same post. last warning!



I'll only expose your ignorance about one word with different meanings especially in Hebrew as this relates to our discussion.

1. The word shemayim: it means; heaven, sky, visible heavens, heaven as realm of the stars.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

2. The word • ’eretz: can mean; land (1543 times in KJV), earth (712 times), country (140 times), way (3 times), ground.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

3.The word raqia: can mean; extended (solid) surface, vault of heaven supporting waters above, firmament, dome, vault.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

Let me stop here because they're many.
Now. you can see the reason why one Hebrew word can have different meanings for different purposes depending on the content but you people will ignore the content and cherry pick anything that suit you.

Lastly, one thing you failed to realize is that Hebrew word both have the same view for physical and spiritual, this can be seen from example I gave above.

Can you see now that the word "nephesh" have different words with different meanings including physical and spiritual?

Context is key. Nephesh or soul in the bible is strictly about the earthly realm of life. That word nephesh,soul never refers to spirit being

OneJ:


Emusan, God did not leave Christ soul in hell."Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31.(KJV). Proof that the soul is mortal. At the risk of exposure of your falsehood, U refused to admit that Jesus was a dead soul ,who was not left in hell.

"...Christ died for sins once for all....was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit" 1 pet 3:18. 1 Cor 15:43-47.
Christ was resurrected as a spirit being (like angels), not with that physical body he had before died.
He had already given his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice for our sins. Mark 10:45. Emusan, what has been sacrificed, or U have sacrificed, is it taken back ? Yes or no.
The holy scriptures is precise about it.


"Jesus himself stood among them& said to them: peace be with you". They were startled & frightened thinking they saw a spirit".... Look at my hands& my feet. It is I myself." Luke 24:36-39.

Emusan, Christ apostles knew Jesus very well , but after his resurrection, they couldn't recognize him. Why ?

Because in order to be visible to them, Christ took on a human body without any wound,not the same body he had before death (recall that the angels who appeared to Lot, Mary Magdalene etc, took on a human bodies. Gen 19:1-3.

Perfect reply, but he will still come and twist it

OneJ:
.
"Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31 gives U, Emusan, the precise answer: God resurrected Jesus from hell on the 3rd day , to live as a spirit being.
"He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit " 1 pet 3:18. 1 cor 15:43-47.
Christ offered his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice Mark 10:45.

Christ offered his soul, perfect life as a sacrifice to ransom mankind from bandage of sin & death.
Emusan, if made a sacrifice, can U take your sacrifice back ?
The person who pays a ransom to secure the release of his friend, does he get that ransom back ?
what Jesus paid as ransom sacrifice, he did not take it back.
Emusan, why is this so hard for U to understand?
Jesus said be afraid of the One who can destroy both body & soul. Matt 10:28. By that, Jesus already confirmed that the soul is NOT immortal.

Pls note the word Christ used : "both body & soul " , he emphasized that both are together , still the same thing.
Christ is showing us that his Father has the authority to destroy the soul,that is termination of the wicked man's prospect of eternal life.
For instance, the destruction of the wicked souls of Noah's day with a great deluge.
Abeg go enrol for English language tutorial. U need am well well.
Pray to receive God's spirit of understanding & wisdom .

So, as Jesus has paid the ransom for our sins, he can't have his body back. That means his body is with who now? Satan?

God didn't leave Jesus body in hell, He resurrected it. Otherwise it would mean Jesus didn't conquer death and our hope is in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:14

And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

You believe Jesus resurrected. Then how can you say what resurrected is different from what died? Isn't that a scam?

What you are saying is that Satan is now in possession of Jesus, so God formed a new Jesus and sold that to us as the resurrected Jesus. Let man be a liar.

@bold Why are you lying on Jesus like this? You say Jesus said the soul is not immortal. Then how come some will have everlasting life and others everlasting punishment?

Mathew 25:46

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 13:41-43
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

@bold2

If you say Jesus confirmed that both body and soul are together, and that when one is killed, the other dies in the process, how come Jesus said we shouldn't be afraid of those who can only kill the body but not the soul? Doesn't that show that after the body dies, something goes on living?

During the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked, the wicked are then thrown both body and soul into hell, which is the second death where they face eternal punishment. The righteous face the opposite which is eternal life. The word eternal which you find in ETERNAL PUNISHMENT shows that they won't die. If they were just gong to die off, then there would not be anything eternal about the punishment.

Eternal life means life everlasting, it doesn't end. Eternal punishment means everlasting punishment, it doesn't end. How then can the Bible say God is punishing someone eternally when the person is dead and no longer existing? Can you see your flaw?

Barristter07:

Oh, not Jesus right ?

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Right. He shed the Earthly Mould and had The Heavenly Apparel to resurrect with.

Barristter07:

Oh, not Jesus right ?

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Right. He shed the Earthly Mould and had The Heavenly Apparel to resurrect with.

Barristter07:

Oh, not Jesus right ?

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Right. He shed the Earthly Mould and had The Heavenly Apparel to resurrect with.

alBHAGDADI:
So, as Jesus has paid the ransom for our sins, he can't have his body back. That means his body is with who now? Satan?

God didn't leave Jesus body in hell, He resurrected it. Otherwise it would mean Jesus didn't conquer death and our hope is in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:14

And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

You believe Jesus resurrected. Then how can you say what resurrected is different from what died? Isn't that a scam?

What you are saying is that Satan is now in possession of Jesus, so God formed a new Jesus and sold that to us as the resurrected Jesus. Let man be a liar.

@bold Why are you lying on Jesus like this? You say Jesus said the soul is not immortal. Then how come some will have everlasting life and others everlasting punishment?

Mathew 25:46

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matthew 13:41-43
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

@bold2

If you say Jesus confirmed that both body and soul are together, and that when one is killed, the other dies in the process, how come Jesus said we shouldn't be afraid of those who can only kill the body but not the soul? Doesn't that show that after the body dies, something goes on living?

During the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked, the wicked are then thrown both body and soul into hell, which is the second death where they face eternal punishment. The righteous face the opposite which is eternal life. The word eternal which you find in ETERNAL PUNISHMENT shows that they won't die. If they were just gong to die off, then there would not be anything eternal about the punishment.

Eternal life means life everlasting, it doesn't end. Eternal punishment means everlasting punishment, it doesn't end. How then can the Bible say God is punishing someone eternally when the person is dead and no longer existing? Can you see your flaw?

"Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" meaning God will not abandon me,Jesus in hell (the grave),Christ resurrected on the 3rd day.

"He was put to death in the body but made alive (resurrected) in the spirit ( as a spirit being ,a spiritual body like that of angels. U know he was already a spirit being in heaven before he was born on earth by Mary. ) 1 pet 3:18. 1 cor 15:43-47.

The definition of the Hebrew word "nephesh" meaning soul already made a mess of your false beliefs. (Go research on the actual Hebrew/ Bible meaning of soul,u're getting it wrong.)
The soul is the whole man, not a part that survives & goes elsewhere. PS 146:3,4. Eccl 12:7. James 2:26. Gen 2:7. The breath of life, the life force from God leaves the soul & that soul is confirmed dead.
Go find out the definition of ransom & sacrifice, u seem not to fathom how it applied to Christ role in the salvation of man

OneJ:


"Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" meaning God will not abandon me,Jesus in hell (the grave),Christ resurrected on the 3rd day.

"He was put to death in the body but made alive (resurrected) in the spirit ( as a spirit being ,a spiritual body like that of angels. U know he was already a spirit being in heaven before he was born on earth by Mary. ) 1 pet 3:18. 1 cor 15:43-47.

The definition of the Hebrew word "nephesh" meaning soul already made a mess of your false beliefs. (Go research on the actual Hebrew/ Bible meaning of soul,u're getting it wrong.)
The soul is the whole man, not a part that survives & goes elsewhere. PS 146:3,4. Eccl 12:7. James 2:26. Gen 2:7. The breath of life, the life force from God leaves the soul & that soul is confirmed dead.
Go find out the definition of ransom & sacrifice, u seem not to fathom how it applied to Christ role in the salvation of man

How many times do I have to tell you to stop acting as if you are a Greek or Hebrew? Someone already showed you that Nephesh means several things, yet you came back with this lame argument.

Go and look for the meaning of resurrection before you go about saying Jesus didn't resurrect bodily but as a spirit. That will only mean he didn't conquer death.

OneJ:
Context is key. Nephesh or soul in the bible is strictly about the earthly realm of life.

After I burst you ignorance about how word can have different meanings, you fall back to context.

Now you're talking about context, did you put that into consideration before?

Again, if context is the key then it's you who violated it but you're trying to play smart now.

The reason why even your own TRANSLATION NWT uses LIFE in that verse is very simple, the CONTEXT wasn't about PHYSICAL BODY that's why in KJV it read "...because he hath POURED out his soul"

Mind you one of the reasons JWs rejected the personhood of the Holy Spirit is because they said Bible said Holy Spirit was POURED upon people.

That word nephesh,soul never refers to spirit being

Lastly, you lied here again and I'll continue to expose your ignorance about scripture until you break yourself lose from the bondage of your GB

Everyone reading this should look at the attached picture

OneJ:
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"Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31 gives U, the precise answer: God resurrected Jesus from hell on the 3rd day, to live as a spirit being.
"He was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit " 1 pet 3:18. 1 cor 15:43-47.
Christ offered his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice Mark 10:45.

Now see the irony of your post!
1. Humans (Including Jesus) don't have anything that lives on after they died.
2. Jesus died and gave His body(SOUL)...meaning, the day Jesus died nothing on Him was live.
3. Jesus' body was never found...since Jesus didn't take it back...
4. Yet Jehovah didn't leave Jesus body in hell...which you tactically change to RESURRECTION...
5. Also, Jehovah RESURRECTED Jesus Christ...

Now, in line of this, WHAT ACTUALLY DID JEHOVAH RESURRECTED from the dead Jesus Christ? Since, Jesus body is gone and no soul that survived the death....

Look at what your own organization has to say about resurrection "In the Bible, the word translated as “resurrection” comes from the Greek
a·naʹsta·sis, which means “raising up” or “standing up again.” A person who is resurrected is raised up from death and restored to life as the person he was before. —1 Corinthians 15:12, 13

Christ offered his soul, perfect life as a sacrifice to ransom mankind from bandage of sin & death.
if made a sacrifice, can U take your sacrifice back?
The person who pays a ransom to secure the release of his friend, does he get that ransom back ?
what Jesus paid as ransom sacrifice, he did not take it back.
why is this so hard for U to understand?

If Jesus didn't take the body back, what then did Jehovah take out of hell since he didn't leave Jesus soul(body) in hell?

Why is simple English so hard for you to understand

Jesus said be afraid of the One who can destroy both body & soul. Matt 10:28. By that, Jesus already confirmed that the soul is NOT immortal.
Pls note the word Christ used : "both body & soul " , he emphasized that both are together , still the same thing.

Imagine, and you can lie without shame like this.

Jesus means both BODY and SOUL are the same.. yet the preceding statement read... "and fear not THEM which KILL THE BODY, but are not ABLE to kill the SOUL: KJV

And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna. NWT

This verse is so self explanatory enough that people can KILL the BODY but can't KILL the SOUL but it's only God who can destroy both Body and Soul.

So why did Jesus separate body from soul in the first part?

Christ is showing us that his Father has the authority to destroy the soul,that is termination of the wicked man's prospect of eternal life.
For instance, the destruction of the wicked souls of Noah's day with a great deluge.
Abeg go enrol for English language tutorial. U need am well well.
Pray to receive God's spirit of understanding & wisdom

But the preceding statement was cleared that Jesus spoke about people who kill the body but CAN'T kill soul...

Why would Jesus contradict himself by saying the BODY can be kill but the soul can't be kill by people if both soul and body mean the same thing?

I believe you never see this coming....

The spell from GB must clear from your eyes...it's so evident that watchtower and awake has blocked your eyes from Biblical truth.

Emusan:


Now see the irony of your post!
1. Humans (Including Jesus) don't have anything that lives on after they died.
2. Jesus died and gave His body(SOUL)...meaning, the day Jesus died nothing on Him was live.
3. Jesus' body was never found...since Jesus didn't take it back...
4. Yet Jehovah didn't leave Jesus body in hell...which you tactically change to RESURRECTION...
5. Also, Jehovah RESURRECTED Jesus Christ...

Now, in line of this, WHAT ACTUALLY DID JEHOVAH RESURRECTED from the dead Jesus Christ? Since, Jesus body is gone and no soul that survived the death....

Look at what your own organization has to say about resurrection "In the Bible, the word translated as “resurrection” comes from the Greek
a·naʹsta·sis, which means “raising up” or “standing up again.” A person who is resurrected is raised up from death and restored to life as the person he was before. —1 Corinthians 15:12, 13



If Jesus didn't take the body back, what then did Jehovah take out of hell since he didn't leave Jesus soul(body) in hell?

Why is simple English so hard for you to understand



Imagine, and you can lie without shame like this.

Jesus means both BODY and SOUL are the same.. yet the preceding statement read... "and fear not THEM which KILL THE BODY, but are not ABLE to kill the SOUL: KJV

And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Ge·henʹna. NWT

This verse is so self explanatory enough that people can KILL the BODY but can't KILL the SOUL but it's only God who can destroy both Body and Soul.

So why did Jesus separate body from soul in the first part?



But the preceding statement was cleared that Jesus spoke about people who kill the body but CAN'T kill soul...

Why would Jesus contradict himself by saying the BODY can be kill but the soul can't be kill by people if both soul and body mean the same thing?

I believe you never see this coming....

The spell from GB must clear from your eyes...it's so evident that watchtower and awake has blocked your eyes from Biblical truth.

Thank you for this post.

They have been brainwashed, that's why they go about parroting what GB told them without researching for themselves.

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