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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 4:52pm On Sep 05, 2018
Yes, I know Yahya was born by Zakariya.

My curiosity is in his request, I want to know if perhaps what he asked for wasn't really a biological offspring hence his surprise and request for a sign.

What I'm saying is, according to me, Zakariya asked for someone to succeed and Allah out of his kindness decided to blow his mind by making that "someone" a biological offspring. Hence Zakariya's doubt of how is it possible? My wife is barren. I'm an old man.... Etc I just want to know if I'm right or wrong


I don't even know if I've effectively passed my message cheesy
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:40pm On Sep 05, 2018
I get what you are saying. I do not have any intuitive knowledge beyond what is expressly revealed in this ayah. He(angel) said: So shall it be, your Lord says: It is easy to Me, and indeed I created you before, when you were nothing. He said: My Lord! give me a sign. He(angel) said: Your sign is that you will not be able to speak to the people three nights while in sound health. Qur’an.Surah Maryam 19:8-10.

Like for instance, Isa ibn Maryam(as) was expressly profiled by Allah that he was born without father but mother. In the case of nabi Zakaria, both parent were present but non-functional seductively. The ayah above was in response to his prayer that Allah could still make them produce. We can take nabi Ayyub(as) for instance. He was sick for long that one might think he would not make it but Allah restored him in second...something that would have took years at hospital to recover from. I hope you get my point?.

So far, i see no indication that nabi Yahya came from unknown background beyond his biological parents mentioned in the Quran. His birth was also miraculous because he was born of a barren mother and an aged father while Jesus was born of a virgin mother. They both came from women. Even if you explore intuitive shuyukh, the sufis, they said the same. Like Sheikh Sasili in his lecture titled "Story of Zakariya", he did not differ from this ayah.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 10:51pm On Sep 05, 2018
Egbon, it seems you didn't get me. See the bolds


Hka'na:
Yes, I know Yahya was born by Zakariya.

My curiosity is in his request, I want to know if perhaps what he asked for wasn't really a biological offspring hence his surprise and request for a sign.

what I'm saying is, according to me, Zakariya asked for someone to succeed and Allah out of his kindness decided to blow his mind by making that "someone" a biological offspring. Hence Zakariya's doubt of how is it possible? My wife is barren. I'm an old man.... Etc I just want to know if I'm right or wrong
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:57pm On Sep 05, 2018
This was his request. Let's analyse (3:38)

“There did Zakariyya pray to his Lord; he said My Lord! Grant me from Thee good offspring; surely Thou art the Hearer of prayer.”


original Arabic word used by Allah in the ayah is thurriyyatan (offspring or seed). Offspring by definition indicate biological son he requested for. Did i get you right this time?.

If i may ask what are you thinking?. Why did you decide to question this?.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 9:06am On Sep 06, 2018
I'm thinking if there's a possibility that "dhurriyat" means something besides the "offspring/seed" it is usually translated as.

I'm not questioning, per se, I'm just trying to see if I can understand why He asked for a sign.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 9:44am On Sep 06, 2018
Hkana:
Assalamu alaikum Fam. It's been a while I posted here. I hope everyone is in good health and iman.

There's something I want to share. The story of Prophet Zakariya has had me thinking for some time. You know how he prayed for a "son" and was eventually blessed with Yahya... Peace be on them both.

My thought on the story is that He actually didn't pray for a biological offspring but more like for a successor, someone He'd groom to carry on with the religious duty of calling people after him, hence his making mention of the fact that his wife was barren, and then his asking for a sign after he was given the good news of Yahya.

Because I'm like "you prayed for a "son", you're told your request would be granted and you're now doubting and asking for a sign?" it doesn't quite add up for me.

So, I'll appreciate inputs from my Seniors... Tbaba1234, Albaqir, Empiree, Sino and you my boss smiley


# Wa alaykum salam dear brother. Otojometa. Hope you and family are doing fine. Khayr in sha Allah.

First, it is clear from the Qur'an that Nabi Zakariyyah's request was a biological son who will inherit his position and responsibility in delivering Allah's message. That is, his request was a "successor son".

It is the dream and wish of every Prophet and messenger that his lineage continues in servitude to Allah. This is testified to in the case of Nabi Ibrahim.

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 124:

And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam of men. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He."



Second, Nabi Zakariyyah's question to God was not as a result of doubt. Never. All he wanted was reassurance of faith. Such a thing also happened to Nabi Ibrahim

Baqara: 260:

And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [ Allah ] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [ Allah ] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."


He simply want to know "how will God do it".

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 2:15pm On Sep 06, 2018
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Okay Bosses. I appreciate.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:35pm On Sep 06, 2018
Hkana:
I'm thinking if there's a possibility that "dhurriyat" means something besides the "offspring/seed" it is usually translated as.

I'm not questioning, per se, I'm just trying to see if I can understand why He asked for a sign.
"dhurriyat" is used for offspring in this ayah too, and it refers to Mary(as)


But when she delivered her, she said, "My Lord, I have delivered a female." And Allah was most knowing of what she delivered, "And the male is not like the female. And I have named her Mary, and I seek refuge for her in You and [for] her descendants from Satan, the expelled [from the mercy of Allah ]." Q3:36

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 5:43pm On Sep 06, 2018
Empiree:
"dhurriyat" is used for offspring in this ayah too, and it refers to Mary(as)


But when she delivered her, she said, "My Lord, I have delivered a female." And Allah was most knowing of what she delivered, "And the male is not like the female. And I have named her Mary, and I seek refuge for her in You and [for] her descendants from Satan, the expelled [from the mercy of Allah ]." Q3:36


Oh, okay. Thanks Boss wink

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:57am On Sep 08, 2018
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:13pm On Sep 11, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:15am On Sep 12, 2018
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FIRST CATEGORIES :- Islamists Boko Haram
AIM:- Western education is sin & to Implement Shari’ah
SPONSORS:- Yusuf (Killed)
REWARDS: Heaven or Hell
EXPOSSED AGENTS:- Shekau
EVIDENCE:- Known and dealt with


SECOND CATEGORIES :- Politicians Boko Haram
AIM:- Desperate Politicians in order to perpetuate their political control over some people

SPONSORS:- GEJ through Tompolo & MEND, PDP said by Azazi

REWARDS: Indefinite political control

EXPOSSED AGENTS:-
• PDP through Asari Dokubo
• Tompolo, MEND
• Sunday Eze from Anambra State
• Samuel Taiwo from Ogun State
• Three Ghanaians


EVIDENCE:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HfkH82TaEk
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/jonathan-gives-%E2%80%98tompolo%E2%80%99-contract-supply-20-marine-patrol-vessels-navy

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AIM:- Christians with the motive of using it to tarnish the name of Islam.

SPONSORS:- Funded by GEJ and controlled by Pastor Oritsejafor; CAN President &

PASTOR'S REWARDS; Private Jet & 50 billion Naira already given.

EXPOSSED AGENTS:-
• Emmanuel King, Yanagua Church bombing - camouflaged in Islamic attire on December 28, 2011
• Lydia Joseph Bauchi St. Johns Catholic Church Bombing on 12 Sept. 2011
• Igbo traders gunned down a dozen fellow Igbo businessmen inside the Christ Apostolic Church, in Adamawa State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
Christ Embassy Church blast by a fellow worshipper Suleja, Niger State on February 21, 2012
Samson Mangai bombing, a church in Plateau state
• Eight Christians bombing, COCIN church in Bauchi on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
• Madam Ruth, bombing, ECWA church, Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
• A Christian bomber, at Jos
• Two Christian, Hassan Ojudu and Samaila Yakubu
• BASSEY, B.U.K, Church
• A Christian lady from Bauchi State trying to enter FCDA Area 11 with explosives.
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• Monday Davou, (IED) in market.
• Four Christians (atmpd) bombing Catholic Parish, Markudi
• Emmanuel Atanda, Peter Oyedepo and Ogunniyi Babatope, disguised as Muslims, attempted bombing of church in Osun
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EVIDENCE:-
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/war-can-pastor-oritsjejafor-accused-ganging-against-bishops-who-visited-atiku-aggrieved-pd

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/raw-copy-obasanjos-historic-letter-president-goodluck-jonathan

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/08/police-arrest-prostitute-over-alleged-attempt-to-burn-down-church/

http://allafrica.com/stories/201202200035.html

LEADERSHIP Sunday, January 15, 2012, p. 9.
http://naijaloudspeaker./2014/07/05/must-read-boko-haram-using-multi-dimensional-approach-princess-marian-awolowo/

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:12am On Sep 12, 2018
Piece of history.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:15am On Sep 12, 2018
God bless our mothers, especially during hard economy during Abacha'stove 1996

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:20am On Sep 12, 2018
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If these bottles cracked the company would not recycle them. Retailer looses

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:50am On Sep 12, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:30pm On Sep 12, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:24am On Sep 13, 2018
Dutch Government Faces Outcry over Reported Support for Syrian Rebels


The Dutch government faced a storm of protest from lawmakers on Monday after a news report said it supported a Syrian opposition group which Dutch prosecutors had labelled a "terrorist" organisation.


Parliamentarians demanded answers after the report aired by the national public broadcaster said the Netherlands gave "non-lethal assistance" (NLA) to 22 armed opposition groups battling Syrian government forces.


The television programme, which worked together with the respected Trouw newspaper, identified one group as Jabhat al-Shamiya, which it said had been supplied with pick-up trucks, uniforms and other equipment last year.


But at the same time, Dutch officials in the port city of Rotterdam were prosecuting a suspected militant for belonging to Jabhat al-Shamiya, which they labelled in court papers as a "Salafist and jihadist movement striving for a caliphate".


It was nothing more than a "criminal organisation with a terrorist aim", the prosecutors added in the court papers.


Jabhat al-Shamiya, also known as the Levant Front, is an umbrella group for Turkey-backed rebel fighters based in northern Syria. In 2016, Amnesty International accused it of carrying out summary executions and establishing courts that enforce a strict Islamic-based penal code.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/september/12/dutch-government-faces-outcry-over-reported-support-for-syrian-rebels/
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 5:54pm On Sep 16, 2018
What are your thoughts on Muharram being the first month of the Islamic year?

Empiree
Albaqir.
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I'm sure Egbon Empire.e would be like "why is this guy asking "weird" questions these days?" grin
Truth is, I thought about the Islamic year and I wondered why Muharram is taken as first month and not Rabbiul Awwal, since the Islamic year is reference to the Hijra. And from the little I know, Hijra was in Rabbiul Awwal and not Muharram.

Anyone else who knows the story should feel free to contribute to the discourse.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:52pm On Sep 16, 2018
Hkana:
What are your thoughts on Muharram being the first month of the Islamic year?

Empiree
Albaqir.
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I'm sure Egbon Empire.e would be like "why is this guy asking "weird" questions these days?" grin
Truth is, I thought about the Islamic year and I wondered why Muharram is taken as first month and not Rabbiul Awwal, since the Islamic year is reference to the Hijra. And from the little I know, Hijra was in Rabbiul Awwal and not Muharram.

Anyone else who knows the story should feel free to contribute to the discourse.
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This is really pondering question. You know more than I do. For you to have a deep thought like this is really something credible.

My only answer is I have no idea. Will wait for reputable answer as well.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 9:32pm On Sep 16, 2018
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Let's wait together Egbon. Hopefully someone will come through for us.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 12:05am On Sep 19, 2018
https://herald.report/saudi-diplomocy-in-the-horn-of-africa-just-brought-peace-between-

They won't see this o, but if it's bad news, you'll see them doing the (attached image) on Saudi

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:29am On Sep 19, 2018
Alhamdululah, the same efforts devised to solve this will be appreciated btw ksa/Iran/Qatar/Yemen.

Eritrea and Djibouti's conflict wasn't hot topic. So perhaps, the reason they solved it amicably. Thanks to them anyways
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 10:59am On Sep 19, 2018
Hkana:
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Let's wait together Egbon. Hopefully someone will come through for us.
I found this on shii website but it contains both Sunni and Shia sources

http://www.marefateahlebait.com/miscellaneous/first-month-of-the-islamic-year




And these are links to choose from too for different views


https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&q=why+Muharram+is+taken+as+first+month+and+not+Rabi+Ul+Awwal&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC56SM5sbdAhVLVd8KHbbZA-sQBQghKAA&biw=360&bih=560
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 8:16am On Sep 21, 2018

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:19pm On Sep 21, 2018
Got knocked down for no apparent reason sad


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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:52am On Sep 25, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:55am On Sep 25, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:57am On Sep 25, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:04am On Sep 25, 2018
Usermane,

perhaps there are "ahadith" these folks followed too that instructed them to carry out these acts in their traditional beliefs angry

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:08am On Sep 25, 2018
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:12am On Sep 25, 2018
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