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absoluteSuccess:
So shall it be,

"Oturupondi yi eyin o p'omo re, eri bi Orunmila gbe soro bee si?"

Ibi t'ologbon meji gbe nsoro, okolo tin be nibe adofo."

Amen.

Aashé.

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Olu317:
obalufonIII, I have reposted mine. Kindly post your ancestors name amongst the ruling houses because your investigation on my ancestors will always meet a barricade...

Proof your originality with your ancestors documented in ILEIFE.

I am waiting for you to do the needful by posting your ancestors name as mine has appeared.

Post it & leave it for some of us who have a life outside NL to see it whenever we have the time to get on.

Post it again & leave it.

Check the post histories of my several temporary handles, I have ever shyed away from posting records & orikis.

I escalated it, fxxk oriki, come to Ife, let us prove your ancestry on camera. . And you’ll also hear my lineage orikis from elderly ones in person at the compounds.

Olu317:
As you can see, I have not lied about my ancestors. And as far as I am concerned, he obalufonIII has offended my ancestors and until he apologize to them before I can think of forgiveness toward him.

Forgiveness keh? Eni to ba hold bad thoughts or evil grudges towards an Omo Iya a ri ija Onile Ogbodu ora. Don’t die before your time o, Olu. .

Post your oriki & leave it. I will post all of mine & leave it.

Rep your prince-status further & come to Ife, it will further boost your internet relevance .

Obalufon:
you need to visit ile-ife Olu ... Ibi is evil negative energy. Ire positive energy as human we are born with evil and good . we have edi ....we don't have Satan that rival authority with God ..Eledumare is too supreme we are pious people .. i don't doubt the east connection because i know alot about it than you thought with route of migration from my maternal lineage i also embrace my paternal oral history more base on physical evidence

Don’t mind that man jare, using ‘Crowther’s’ Yoruba instead of taking note of the fact that Yoruba sub-groups speak different dialects with different words.

You are very correct, Edi is that god that causes man to do evil. Your friend Olu wants so much to fit Yoruba into Hebrew culture & will do anything to get it done.

Olodumare o ni jeko rija Esu.

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Esu has no power against anyone that hasn't gone against the will of God and Witch can't attack you without you offending them before a witch /wizard attack you they will play trick on you to offend them if you fall for it and offend them then you are in soup . Esu is the medium between God and human.. All etutu and Ebo Sacrifice must be given to esu Oju Esu /Esu Altar to take it to Heaven without Esu your prayers can't reach heaven

Esu is extremely important in Ifa tradition.. Esu comes in different form..Every orishas has its own Esu

0balufonlll:
LOL, again, all noise no substance. However, it is indeed true that ogbon ma nya inu ashiwere lo ni igba mi - you made a little sense by asking to blur the Oduduwa angle & approach Yoruba history differently. You should take your own advise. Now tell your boy Olu to bench the Mecca migration of Oduduwa & approach his stories from a non-migration & non-Oduduwa angle. Like I said before, there were Yoruba people before Oduduwa & Yoruba did not start with Ile-Ife.

Arakunrin, lo ogbon inu re lati dahun awon ibeere ti o ti inu atako re jade wa.

You are a fraud, a fake entity without value system. kindly answer the allegations you raised with your first post, nobody is interested in your wit as at now. It add no knowledge nor insight to no one. Clear your view about what you claim with my first post before you start on another hypnotic course.

Olu is not my boy, he is an intelligent person keen enough to draw insight from his oriki. If you have one comparable to the one he shared, you might come to similar conclusion, but all you have is records of trash, everything your professor thought you is how to trash anything unlike your opinion.

I have given you the clue to the Odu Ifa as the family of Osun, if you can't tell what it is after this post, then you are but a serious pathological case, I'm waiting.

0balufonlll:
Don’t mind that man jare, using ‘Crowther’s’ Yoruba instead of taking note of the fact that Yoruba sub-groups speak different dialects with different words.

You are very correct, Edi is that god that causes man to do evil. Your friend Olu wants so much to fit Yoruba into Hebrew culture & will do anything to get it done.

Olodumare o ni jeko rija Esu.

Olodumare o ni jeko rija Esu this quote is christian ..there is no conflict between eledumare and Esu ...Once you are evil Esu won't let you rest because he will prick your conscience till you unknowing voice out you secrete..

absoluteSuccess:
Arakunrin, lo ogbon inu re lati dahun awon ibeere ti o ti inu atako re jade wa.

You are a fraud, a fake entity without value system. kindly answer the allegations you raised with your first post, nobody is interested in your wit as at now. It add no knowledge nor insight to no one. Clear your view about what you claim with my first post before you start on another hypnotic course.

Olu is not my boy, he is an intelligent person keen enough to draw insight from his oriki. If you have one comparable to the one he shared, you might come to similar conclusion, but all you have is records of trash, everything your professor thought you is how to trash anything unlike your opinion.

I have given you the clue to the Odu Ifa as the family of Osun, if you can't tell what it is after this post, then you are but a serious pathological case, I'm waiting.

the irony

OlaoChi:
the irony

LOL as in ehn, slapping unrelated words together & taking twists/turns after being caught with several false claims is ‘intelligent’ . The post is a reflection of what that man, absolute is.

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OlaoChi:
the irony

The joke is on you fella, you are the one at your wits end, using false cognates to embellish your claims at every turn but asking others to expose theirs to scrutiny of semantics, because your boy tell them so. Why don't you do exactly the same thing with your false cognates?

Olu is very intelligent, fanning the ember of knowledge further to wherever knowledge can be fetched, but you are in a ditch with your Yoruba/Japanise false cognate because you can do nothing with it, it ends in nairaland.

Olu has hope:

False Cognates

False cognates are pairs of words that seem to be cognates because of similar sounds and meaning, but have different etymologies; they can be within the same language or from different languages.[1] For example, the English word dog and the Mbabaram word dog have exactly the same meaning, but by complete coincidence.

This is different from false friends, which are similar-sounding words with different meanings, but which may in fact be etymologically related. (For example: Spanish dependiente looks like dependent, but means sales assistant or clerk as well.)

Even though false cognates lack a common root, there may still be an indirect connection between them (for example by phono-semantic matching or folk etymology).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate

I've once gave you an equation to make something out of the false cognates you often share, but at the end you turn it on me for the reason best known to you.

Phono-semantic matching (PSM) is the incorporation of a word into one language from another, often creating a neologism, where the word's non-native quality is hidden by replacing it with phonetically and semantically similar words or roots from the adopting language. Thus, the approximate sound and meaning of the original expression in the source language are preserved, though the new expression (the PSM) in the target language may sound native.

Phono-semantic matching is distinct from calquing, which includes (semantic) translation but does not include phonetic matching (i.e. retaining the approximate sound of the borrowed word through matching it with a similar-sounding pre-existent word or morpheme in the target language). At the same time, phono-semantic matching is also distinct from homophonic translation, which retains the sound of a word but not the meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phono-semantic_matching

This is from a reliable source and a framework for linguistics and its practitioners. Need I say more? Enigbon to l'enikan o gbon, oniyen gaan ni baba ogo. Agba ofifo lo maa ndun muhoromuhoro.

0balufonlll:
OK so Olaochi came through with his Japanese style to show what is being done can be tried with any culture & also, your boy Olu was upset by the Japanese angle. Can folks throw their foundations out of the window & just roll out ideas even connection between Yoruba & Native Americans?

Who exactly were the professionals that claim the narrative were not written in the Bible? Yet I sited an archaeological evidence that conform with the biblical narrative. And your only defence was, you aren't ready to confirm if what I reference was true! Very shocking as it may seems from you because you have not for once reference any of these your GHOST professionals. Oga Please mention the following :

1.Mention the professionals who are Nigerians and non Nigerians that said Biblical narrative isn't older than Quran's.
Mind you, Professor Ogundowole, once posited this view in when he taught me in one of his lecture. He was once a long time lecturer at the university of Lagos.

2. Since you are the one one a defence line, kindly post fossil humans that support your narratives of white occupiers of all NINEVEH.

3. Did you not know he is deceitful with his Japanese, and comparison to Yoruba? Google it and screenshot it.

4. How did TSUKI—Osukpa become OSUPA?

5. Between Agbongbon and OniFa -OliFa, which is older?

6. In as much as Araba had been part of yoruba proverbs-expression , Since you know the history of Araba. Kindly share the first Araba

7. How do you explain this, Éni à báà là'bá ní Báa báa ... Àrábà ni Bàbà Ábáa.

8. How old is this above saying ?

9. Do you know the meaning of Omo Arugbo Ìlè?

10. Esu thought orunmila or not isn't the focal point but who among the two personality is responsible for the duty mentioned as onibodè orun?

11. Between the two orun-Oru in Yoruba history, which of the two is Esu is the guiding as Onibodè?

12. Where is the evidence of the Oru-Orun being depicted in Yoruba land in Nigeria?

13. Did Orunmila met Èlèdúùmàrè from your knowledge of IFA?


Mr... man, break this inform in the same way I site evidence with western information as I usually do.


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0balufonlll:
Your knowledge about everything including your own ancestry is always up for questioning & if we talk now, na rabid nonsense we go begin see all over the place.

Esu gets a share of every etutu/ebo because he is said to have taught orunmila how to divinate starting with palm-nuts from which he (Esu) will find his own food/upkeep through Orunmila’s application of it in solving human problems.

Get knowledge, no. Na to sit on NL all day talking glibs & fraudulently twisting things when called out.

You are always triggered everytime I post. Is Esu not taking a share of what is being sacrificed to him? Is the 1/5 of it a problem? But What ever you had for supper or dinner isn't my cup of tea because you are always inconsistent for not posting your ancestors name ....as I did to mine.

Again, I repeat, post your ancestors oriki,so that you will proof your ancestry. I swear, you disrespected them,right from olofin to Luusi except I had ever used your ancestors before you fi my ancestors tà'yín online. Despite the fact, I am far older than you..

Mind you,I don't need to place a curse on you because Iwapele has always being with us for immemorial , so no matter how you hide your identity , all the orisas you appease shall fight against you unless you apologise online because you have no respect for me through your provocative view on my ancestors, that had fought alongside side their cousins to sustain ILEIFE from being destroyed . Unless you apologise and acknowledge my ancestors online, you will know no joy— Aasé ooo, except I am not oranmiyan descendant through Ooni Lajamisan,this will not affect you.

Even Ajalaiye(-Ajamaiye ) still fought to set ILEIFE free during 1860s-1892/1893 war which was fanned by Ibadan through -Modakeke to destroy ILEIFE .So I have not hidden where One of my ancestors migrated toward. After the civil war, he even migrated to to settle the problem in that town. The town where the crown, Luusi's body was reburied. Go figure it out.


Henceforth, I won't quote you again because you have no regard for people and their ancestry evidence.

absoluteSuccess:
The joke is on you fella, you are the one at your wits end, using false cognates to embellish your claims at every turn but asking others to expose theirs to scrutiny of semantics, because your boy tell them so. Why don't you do exactly the same thing with your false cognates?

Olu is very intelligent, fanning the ember of knowledge further to wherever knowledge can be fetched, but you are in a ditch with your Yoruba/Japanise false cognate because you can do nothing with it, it ends in nairaland.

Olu has hope:



I've once gave you an equation to make something out of the false cognates you often share, but at the end you turn it on me for the reason best known to you.



This is from a reliable source and a framework for linguistics and its practitioners. Need I say more? Enigbon to l'enikan o gbon, oniyen gaan ni baba ogo. Agba ofifo lo maa ndun muhoromuhoro.

You even try ooo bro. This is because, you have exposed them to the knowledge of linguistic cognates

In cognate, there are

1. Doubles

2. Triplets

1. Doublets in English Language -

In English grammar and morphology , doublets are two distinct words derived from the same source but by different routes of transmission, such as poison and potion (both from the Latin potio, a drink). Also known as lexical doublets and etymological twins. When the two words are used together in a
phrase they are called coupled synonyms or binomial expressions.

2. Three words of this kind are called triplets : e.g., place, plaza, and piazza (all from the Latin platea , a broad street).


Furthermore ,there are

False, Accidental, and Partial Cognates

(a). False cognates are two words in different languages that appear to be cognates but actually are not

Example :

olachi's
Japanese :Tsuki x
Yoruba : Osupa x
English : Moon x

Japanese :Le
Yoruba : Ìlè
English : House

(b). Accidental cognates are not etymologically related but just happen to share form.

(c). Partial cognates are words that have the same meaning in some contexts but not others.


Submission:

Sir,forget them, these people's knowledge are retrogressive because if Hebrew's aleph is pronounced in youuba's À(Ah) etc yet they failed acknowledge it. And through Ogun stone, it is said to be of Phyiliac origin and Oranmiyan's hieroglyphs is undeciphered. I wonder what the problem with these people who can't but drag intellectuality to the mud



Cheers

stop fighting

Olu317:
You are always triggered everytime I post. Is Esu not taking a share of what is being sacrificed to him? Is the 1/5 of it a problem? But What ever you had for supper or dinner isn't my cup of tea because you are always inconsistent for not posting your ancestors name ....as I did to mine.

Again, I repeat, post your ancestors oriki,so that you will proof your ancestry. I swear, you disrespected them,right from olofin to Luusi except I had ever used your ancestors before you fi my ancestors tà'yín online. Despite the fact, I am far older than you..

Mind you,I don't need to place a curse on you because Iwapele has always being with us for immemorial , so no matter how you hide your identity , all the orisas you appease shall fight against you unless you apologise online because you have no respect for me through your provocative view on my ancestors, that had fought alongside side their cousins to sustain ILEIFE from being destroyed . Unless you apologise and acknowledge my ancestors online, you will know no joy— Aasé ooo, except I am not oranmiyan descendant through Ooni Lajamisan,this will not affect you.

Even Ajalaiye(-Ajamaiye ) still fought to set ILEIFE free during 1860s-1892/1893 war which was fanned by Ibadan through -Modakeke to destroy ILEIFE .So I have not hidden where One of my ancestors migrated toward. After the civil war, he even migrated to to settle the problem in that town. The town where the crown, Luusi's body was reburied. Go figure it out.


Henceforth, I won't quote you again because you have no regard for people and their ancestry evidence.

Don't fight you are brothers E ma binu Sir..

Obalufon:
Don't fight you are brothers E ma binu Sir..

OK Sir. Mo ti gbo ooo.

Cognates are words in two languages that share a similar meaning, spelling, and pronunciation
Example :

Hebrew : ooph

Yoruba : oofo/oonfo

English : fly

Are these not cognate?

Contrary to these set of people with no known knowledge of ancient occupiers of Middle East, the Sumerians, Ancient Hebrews were dark skin -Brownish and Light skin people with negroid features.


Below is discovered archaeological picture of ancient Hebrew that lived in the Middle East...

A typical head with this kind of replica in the Middle East such as this example, were made to be freestanding (not attached to a full figure). Ancient Ife art was often found by locals centuries after its initial use and abandonment and then reused in various ways.

This pattern of Terracotta has been found to depict some of ancient Hebrew sculptor and Middle East people, which hasn't been found in West Africa or Subsahara Africa. Are these people blind to see reason to verify these claims? Even Susan Blier did tremendous work on the field even if the total information isn't accurate.

This is the same reason someone on this platform was saying Araba isn't too strong as regards Yoruba Cosmology world because ,the period of the usage of the name as if Araba begun with the foundational Hebrew ancestors( *mumu* attitude isn't done with them?). As far as Yoruba IFA religion is concerned, Araba is a position for the revered and learned IFA PRIEST, with an advanced knowledge of being chosen and called leader and teacher. Funny enough, below is the kind of caps adorn by ancient Hebrews teachers found among Yorubas ancient leaders.

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ORIKI Kabiyesi Ooni Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi Ojaja Keji Omo Ojaja fidi ote jale Omo Ayi kiti Ogun Omo etiri Ogun Kare o Leyoo aje okun Ooni Ajere aboju jojo New Ooni of Ife, Enitan Ogunwusi Oke leyin Moore O taye so bi igba Omo Laade Omo Ibi ro Omo ajongbodo Omo osun meru ti kun Omo ibi ola ti n wa Omo Ayikiti Ogun tiri Ogun Mo rejana bi oni roko aburo etiri Omo Degbin Mo nlo nre igbode Omo Luusi Omo arugbo-ile igbode abika lorun Omo o fose foso, komo Olominrin feeru fo Omo oke mo ri tikun aya sile. Omo afinju oloja mo ledena meji Omo afinju oloja mo re pole owu. wari oore naa ke e momo Olominrin, Ona na ro mo Ooni ria. Omo Ekun sun-un birade, Omo Odelu kan- bi, Omo opo mefa oo lerunwa Ade temi efeefa ni ere Omo bodere agboobon, Ikoko degbo deru, . Omo ajongbodo. Omo Debooye Omo Giesi ijana Mo ba Giesi rejana Mo ba Debooye a repole Omo igun gbebo – mo re igbode Omo igun la gba Omo igun la je Omo igun kogokogo lorule Igun ile rin-in gbebo Akalamagbo ile rin gbo eru titu Bi ‘ha je tan mun tan Han moke ikole gun Mosi ikole Yanrin mi obu lode ibi an ba ti ba’gun a tii se igun loore Omo igun aare mo re ipole Omo igun gbebo igbode nile re O re more bi oni roko Ooro lo to rise de Han magbala sawesu Han merinla funfun sekeji Adimunia Bilia oooo Adimunia Orisa keji Yesi a bimo re kope I’ooni o Adimunia. Biila Egberin ekun Ajalaye elegberin ikere Egberin ekun naa si koni rise dodo Adimunia Erin a fin bi okin Omo erin gangan ile Omo erin gangan ode Omo erin fi mi joye korun mi mo Omo erin fi mi joye ki ndekun bebe ona yiye Abu ajana ogbe Oba Adeyeye seerin oko bi idikun Oloja Omo Ogunwusi Adefisan Yeuke Koo ba ti mun’gun koloree A ore a han Omo Osun meru tikun Omo oye ni moore Maa niso ni gbangba Omo Abodere Omo Agboo ibon Owolomu ero agbada Omo Ayidina Omo Ayilubii Ponpola abeso jingbinni O dabi oruru laofin Oni rakun saye Yesi b’ooni mi wi o Oke an setile gun Mo roke etiri Ojaja mo mi rodi Tigbo tiju a ke riri Ayidina Odi ile lo mi ree ni Abi toko – Ayilcibii Omo Dodo bi ide Omo Ayikiti Oba Etiri Oba ni Moore Omo Giesi Degbin koko o hanro igbode koko o hanro Kan fi wun Ooni seje lori opo Eran lo jagbagba Omo Olominrin Ototo Oniyan lo je tomo Giesi Oni tii goke esinminrin Ko wi eru segi npa un Omo alaran orin Omo erin meji alo Omo Ologbenla a ridi ire gabo A riwo obi salejo Paraka ode igbodo Ologbenla a ya’mo paara koji A yidina bi oke O soko ekiti soko akoko Oni akoko nbimo de lese oke O degbo Igbin O di kaka bi Oni nrogun Me tete mo wi aje okun lo bi o Omo Agbedegbede Oyibo Omo Agbagba orire nso bi eyokunyokun Opoto nso bi ikan were nile mi Omo o soro ko sikisiki bose Omo o soro fese saworo bade Omo o soro jo somunlele rodo Omo o soro gbokunrin niyawo Omo olodun besebese Oji Oniyan lo bese somi ria ni morire agbada Agbagba mi so ipete feye je loja ife Oni gunyan koko ko wi eyin un bu iloni gun Omundunmudun adofun dekuru ti maa se Olori mi ta Alakara mi ta Oporoporo o nso bi eru isu Ari tii ala Ibee ja ibee maa se sabuja re Omo Onile aran ^ Mo mi rele mo mi laa sun Omo Oloju orunO rigbin ninu oko o fi dooro He Omo Akundinrin esa Omo Igun aare lo bi o omo onitaji Oni Giesi bi gbogbo ko bi gbogbo Ke de lade ale lo loyun re Itupa meta ona ilase Ikan nse ni ni rora Ikan gbe itupa mo ni O wi epo to ni Omo Nibaayo Abu iteni mo ba Giesi lo Omo owa too lukin foba Omo igun gee ore Omo igunlade yoko Gresi modi Gresi fire gbe lese Man diro ni Moore Maa rebi agbon re Omo Elekole Oni bimo kan ko yeniyan O ya jugba eriwo Omo lo Omo Giesi Omo Debooye Laroka modi Giesi fire gbe lese E si un a soloja ko modi korun. Kare o Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi Omo baba ria omo Oba Ropo Ogunwusi Luuyin – Arobaade yeye oro nijesa Man wi ki Lowa gbe’bi Man gbegigun Man wi ki woye gbebi O gbaraba Man Feyinkunie Fanimowu gbebi titi o fi de’bokun Kabiyesi o Ooni Oba Adeyeye Eniitan Ogunwusi Ade a pe lori Bata a pe lese. Ku o eye re o, Babatunde Akande Olewa lowo Olesi merindinlogun Mejo njoko Mejo salarije Kabiyesi o.

who is the luusi that is mentioned...also the meaning O soko ekiti soko akoko

Obalufon:
who is the luusi that is mentioned...also the meaning O soko ekiti soko akoko

Who was Laade? Who was Luusi? I have posted these two names in the family names of Ooni Oranmiyan descendants through his son, known as Lajamisan. And Lajamisan descendants are the names you see being praised in the family compound's name . What exactly do you want to know again?

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0balufonlll:
Alaye o po inu sha.
I have mentioned Orunto Obalufe, Iranje-Idita & Giesi (Agbedegbede line). Without mentioning oriki, you know who they are and their places in Ife history. Now compare your ancestor to them and you’ll ser your position to mine in the scheme of things. . Even Modakeke people have more claim to Ife tha you do.



Awe, Luusi is not connected to Oranmiyan, stop attaching. You alone has claimed Giesi, claimed Lajodogun & then claimed Lafogido. That inconsistency is only a character of a fraud trying to pit os tent in a place s/he has no connection to, go & sit down. If you woth your salt, enter Ife today & I’ll drive you to Lafogido so you can be properly embarrassed on camera for everyone here to see. I’ll sacrifice my time & resources for you yet you have refused to accept the offer. And by the way, ojo ori o kin se agba.



Awe, go & sit down. Samuel Johnson recorded the Ife-Modakeke conflict you referred to. He mentioned exploits of soldiers from Ekiti, Imesi, Ibadan, Modakeke, Ijebu. He stated the places within Ife where they fought. Not even a line was mentioned about any Ajamaye or your hometown in the conflict. If you are here frothing over your minor feature, what should Ijebu Ode & Imesi that were at the fore front of Ife’s cause do? .

P.S: By the way, I see you now have now accepted that Ajamaye was a 19th century personage & not a primordial entity like you once tried to fradulebtly present. You should thank me for fine-tuning your knowledge about your own history. Na small small I go beat that grit you have in your skull for brains into shape.

I so want to lay just one ohun on you that you’ll battle for the rest of your life but I just can not bring myself to do, think or say negative into another man’s life because of a faceless forum. It would not have taken more than a number of ata ire seeds, a bite of orogbo & obi all chewed together with a little shot of gin with that ‘thang’ in the picture below at hand So sho ara e, don’t create wahala for your innocent family members over Nairaland relevance.

Oga ju NO do that oo... Se .olugbohun ni yi ni abi afo se ...