Empiree:
You bothers dont know what you have in nigeria. You still have real ulama for guidance in nigeria on islamic spirituality. You better make use of it and look for them. They don't speak or rarely speak outside. It is part of knowledge. Those shuyukh are dying now. You better go out there and sit down with them with pen or paper or recording device. Sheikh Ahmed Alaye (ra) is gone and many like him. They know this subject. They have tira on this subject. Some of these tira are pretty old and you need to copies asap.

And i hope ikupakuti resurface for his great contributions.

You are very right, we do not know what we have at all.

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Empiree:
interesting. . No to be honest. All I know is this is the position of khidr(as). He was not ummah of Sayyidina Musa(as). I think ikupakuti mentioned something about this before. Let's ask albaqir. He talked about something similar to this too.

Yeah, he did talked about it. He mentioned that generally speaking ruhaniya means spiritual, and all being occupying the spiritual space are technically known as ruhaniya. But specifically he said "ruhaniya" as an identity occupies/lives between 2-7 heavens.

He mentioned that hadrat Khidr metamorphosised into "ruhaniya" after engaging in chanting divine names. This seems to me like figurative expression. But Khidr(ra) is an "enigma" who is regarded as king/leader of rijalu ghayb. He is considered a murshid to so many AWLIYAHs guiding them to Allah.

I also believe sheikh Daud Alfa Nla and Sheikh Faruq Onikijipa talked about something like this. If I understood correctly, Rijalu ghayb is where qutub قطب abdal,عبد awtad أوتاد etc meet in spiritual realm?.

Those are people refers to as rijalu ghayb, and Khidr being their leader guiding them, teaching them some ismu azam corresponding to their nature to become "archetype" like himself. Their anecdotes/activities were much more discussed in a book Imaginary Muslims.

In that case you might need to watch a Yoruba movie tried to make sense of this spiritual realm where lateef adedimeji and Ibrahim Chatta played Sheikh and mureed. Sorry, I had to reference movie. It has sense of Islamic spirituality

Actually, I watched that film sometime last year.As much as I like how the they depict spirituality, I don't subscribe to the idea of where a destiny of one person is substituted for another based on some people(pastor) privy to divine knowledge. I think that is explicitly prerogative of Allah, and partly what hadrat Khidr story somehow unravelled; the mystery behind some seemingly inexplicable situations. Altering, modifying or improving positively the "Destiny" of people through DIVINE directive though thru taught provoking actions, not necessarily exchanging someone destiny for another.

Alhajiemeritus:
I think ruhaniyah might be part of the rijahlu gayb.
some people say khidr is their leader.

Yes, he's considered the leader of rijalu ghayb. And mostly an assembly of men who had transformed themselves in the part of ihsan, thru prayer and jihad nafs.

LadunaI:


Yeah, he did talked about it. He mentioned that generally speaking ruhaniya means spiritual, and all being occupying the spiritual space are technically known as ruhaniya. But specifically he said "ruhaniya" as an identity occupies/lives between 2-7 heavens.

He mentioned that hadrat Khidr metamorphosised into "ruhaniya" after engaging in chanting divine names. This seems to me like figurative expression. But Khidr(ra) is an "enigma" who is regarded as king/leader of rijalu ghayb. He is considered a murshid to so many AWLIYAHs guiding them to Allah.



Those are people refers to as rijalu ghayb, and Khidr being their leader guiding them, teaching them some ismu azam corresponding to their nature to become "archetype" like himself. Their anecdotes/activities were much more discussed in a book Imaginary Muslims.

Humm, nkan nbe faa. I actually missed some of ikupakuti's "tafsir" on this subject last year. Have to go through this thread again. So Khidr is not essentially human. He was "programmed" by Allah to play the role of teacher of Musa(as), just like Dajjal is a spiritual being "programmed" to appear in human form at his appointed time?. I think thats why Khidr was not subjected to sharia of Musa when he allegedly "killed" a boy. Knowledge of sufism is gold if pursued with ikhlas.

Actually, I watched that film sometime last year.As much as I like how the they depict spirituality, I don't subscribe to the idea of where a destiny of one person is substituted for another based on some people(pastor) privy to divine knowledge. I think that is explicitly prerogative of Allah, and partly what hadrat Khidr story somehow unravelled; the mystery behind some seemingly inexplicable situations. Altering, modifying or improving positively the "Destiny" of people through DIVINE directive though thru taught provoking actions, not necessarily exchanging someone destiny for another.

Lol, this is yoruba nonsense version. I dont take them serious. I only focused on spiritual realm aspect.

@Ladunal Please how did you get that book "Imaginary Muslims".

Empiree:
Humm, nkan nbe faa. I actually missed some of ikupakuti's "tafsir" on this subject last year. Have to go through this thread again. So Khidr is not essentially human. He was "programmed" by Allah to play the role of teacher of Musa(as), just like Dajjal is a spiritual being "programmed" to appear in human form at his appointed time?. I think thats why Khidr was not subjected to sharia of Musa when he allegedly "killed" a boy. Knowledge of sufism is gold if pursued with ikhlas.




Lol, this is yoruba nonsense version. I dont take them serious. I only focused on spiritual realm aspect.

Don't mind them, they can't do except missing everything together. Traditional religion, Christianity and Islam as if they are "one". Lol

Jamo90:
@Ladunal Please how did you get that book "Imaginary Muslims".

I came across it in our school library during my undergrad in late nineties. Though I made some photocopies but don't know where they are now.

You can try this website if you want pdf format, I haven't get it myself.

http://seabrookfirerescue.com/finesugoh.pdf

Imaginary Muslims by Julian Baldick

LadunaI:

Don't mind them, they can't do except missing everything together. Traditional religion, Christianity and Islam as if they are "one". Lol

they are very silly

Thanks @Ladunal I'll check it out.

This would be a long read. Please pardon my typos.

I've been making some deep research on some of the topics discussed here recently but I'm particularly interested in about four, of which one would be our main focus now.

#I read movado's posts in the Islam and Spirituality section on the dreams she had probably as a result of the Dua of protection against Shaytan she's been involved in. I noted some of her concerns and points.



The Topic I've been pondering about is on Iwosan: The Cure to the enemy's Spiritual Arrow.

From my research, I discovered that there are more supplications and Dua on protection from Jinns and evil eye than on the duas and Cure from the effects of these ailments when they have already afflicted a person. "Ailments" in this context is restricted to the physical manifestation of spiritual attack through Stroke. I have spoken with people who claimed to have been shot or bitten by snake in the dream before they had paralysis of the hands and legs which has greatly affected their walking. It is not something that can be overlooked. You don't have to wait before it happens to someone close to you.


I'd have loved to read Ikupakuti's view on this subject.
Oga Empiree is right when he said we should seek knowledge on Islamic Spirituality because those shuyuks who have the knowledge are truly dying at a faster pace lately. When you remove Spirituality from Islam, you have certainly reduced it to other dead religions. One Vulture will become king over the dead bodies of a hundred Lions.

I'd like to read mostyg's view on this. I have read your posts on using Ruqyah to treat jinn possession in Islam. Are you aware about any correlation between evil eye, spiritual arrow, jinn possessions and Stroke?

It is not enough to Know the preventive measures of an ailment if the cure to the same ailment after it has afflicted a person is not known. This has led many people to go back to the enemy for assistance. How can a man who was bitten by a snake go to the herbalist, only to be told the only cure is to drink alcohol from a bottle that has a dead snake in it.

You'd be surprised at the number of people In this Islamic section who would cross carpet when the enemy gives them an uppercut. You can make Tahjud when you need financial help from Allah or when you have a case in court. But what do you do when you can't speak nor walk. Your family members have tried everything possible and are now suggesting that you be carried to one baba in Ijebu. You don't have access to Ruhaniyah like our Oga here Lol.



Your research on Islamic Spirituality would have made it easier for you to tell your family on what Surah to recite or which Sheikh in your contact list to call. A sheikh who will treat you by using the Combination of Quran, hadith and teachings of the Prophet (SAW)



I have been planning to embark on knowledge-seeking journey on issues like this just to have a first hand knowledge of how some afflictions are cured with the Power of Allah hidden in the Qur'an. This will take time, money, perseverance and of course, persuasion of these shuyuks. I pray Allah makes it easy Insha Allah.

Please pardon my type of Questions on here. I have lived amongst people who have received serious thrashing from Shaytan probably due to their Ignorance.

My friend's Mom rented a shop at **** Lagos Island. She went to the shop to inspect the new tiles and paintings done at the Shop. She slipped, fell flatly on the floor and lost her sight immediately. How did slipping cause blindness?
My friend relocated within a month to another state because he was scared something would happen to his newly married wife and unborn baby.

# I know for a fact that a jinn/demon is involved in this attack.


I listened to a recorded audio of Islamic exorcism posted on this forum months ago. The man was bewitched by a relative years before the the exorcism took place but the jinns sent were waiting for the perfect time to attack. He was a devoted Muslim and couldn't be attacked easily. They followed him around for about 8 years until he backslided and they came in for finishing. He went crazy upstairs and things went downhill from there.
An 80 year old jinn is still a baby because most of them sometimes live for hundreds of years. They know your Great Grandparents. it's very likely you'll die before them and they will still see your Grandchildren. Who's at the receiving end here? Humans or Jinns?


Just as Empiree used to say here that nkan nbe faa. Lol

In Summary, I want to know if there is anyone that knows anything about the kind of knowledge I seek or anywhere I could get it because some of the things I want to know are things some people served their Sheikh for years before they could get. I don't think that should be the case nowadays. You don't have to live with a sheikh for so many years before he can share knowledge and experience with you. I might be wrong though. What kind of treatment is used to cure paralysis of the limbs that occurred as a result of Evil eye or attacks? I think I read somewhere that A Sahaba read suratul Fathia to cure evil eye? Do we have people like that nowadays?




I once asked Ikupakuti that "which is more powerful and dangerous, The Devil or Ignorance?" He said in quote "Ignorance is the prime adversary of man. The plots of the devil are weak in the face of knowledge."

I pray he comes back someday to shed more light on some of the topics discussed in his absence. May Allah protect him and everyone reading this.



Everything I have written here is my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong in any of my points.
Salam

Cc: Empiree Ladunal Mostyg Ikupakuti (Lol)

Everyone's full contribution would be greatly appreciated.

Jamo90:
Thanks @Ladunal I'll check it out.

This would be a long read. Please pardon my typos.

I've been making some deep research on some of the topics discussed here recently but I'm particularly interested in about four, of which one would be our main focus now.

#I read movado's posts in the Islam and Spirituality section on the dreams she had probably as a result of the Dua of protection against Shaytan she's been involved in. I noted some of her concerns and points.



The Topic I've been pondering about is on Iwosan: The Cure to the enemy's Spiritual Arrow.

From my research, I discovered that there are more supplications and Dua on protection from Jinns and evil eye than on the duas and Cure from the effects of these ailments when they have already afflicted a person. "Ailments" in this context is restricted to the physical manifestation of spiritual attack through Stroke. I have spoken with people who claimed to have been shot or bitten by snake in the dream before they had paralysis of the hands and legs which has greatly affected their walking. It is not something that can be overlooked. You don't have to wait before it happens to someone close to you.


I'd have loved to read Ikupakuti's view on this subject.
Oga Empiree is right when he said we should seek knowledge on Islamic Spirituality because those shuyuks who have the knowledge are truly dying at a faster pace lately. When you remove Spirituality from Islam, you have certainly reduced it to other dead religions. One Vulture will become king over the dead bodies of a hundred Lions.

I'd like to read mostyg's view on this. I have read your posts on using Ruqyah to treat jinn possession in Islam. Are you aware about any correlation between evil eye, spiritual arrow, jinn possessions and Stroke?

It is not enough to Know the preventive measures of an ailment if the cure to the same ailment after it has afflicted a person is not known. This has led many people to go back to the enemy for assistance. How can a man who was bitten by a snake go to the herbalist, only to be told the only cure is to drink alcohol from a bottle that has a dead snake in it.

You'd be surprised at the number of people In this Islamic section who would cross carpet when the enemy gives them an uppercut. You can make Tahjud when you need financial help from Allah or when you have a case in court. But what do you do when you can't speak nor walk. Your family members have tried everything possible and are now suggesting that you be carried to one baba in Ijebu. You don't have access to Ruhaniyah like our Oga here Lol.



Your research on Islamic Spirituality would have made it easier for you to tell your family on what Surah to recite or which Sheikh in your contact list to call. A sheikh who will treat you by using the Combination of Quran, hadith and teachings of the Prophet (SAW)



I have been planning to embark on knowledge-seeking journey on issues like this just to have a first hand knowledge of how some afflictions are cured with the Power of Allah hidden in the Qur'an. This will take time, money, perseverance and of course, persuasion of these shuyuks. I pray Allah makes it easy Insha Allah.

Please pardon my type of Questions on here. I have lived amongst people who have received serious thrashing from Shaytan probably due to their Ignorance.

My friend's Mom rented a shop at **** Lagos Island. She went to the shop to inspect the new tiles and paintings done at the Shop. She slipped, fell flatly on the floor and lost her sight immediately. How did slipping cause blindness?
My friend relocated within a month to another state because he was scared something would happen to his newly married wife and unborn baby.

# I know for a fact that a jinn/demon is involved in this attack.


I listened to a recorded audio of Islamic exorcism posted on this forum months ago. The man was bewitched by a relative years before the the exorcism took place but the jinns sent were waiting for the perfect time to attack. He was a devoted Muslim and couldn't be attacked easily. They followed him around for about 8 years until he backslided and they came in for finishing. He went crazy upstairs and things went downhill from there.
An 80 year old jinn is still a baby because most of them sometimes live for hundreds of years. They know your Great Grandparents. it's very likely you'll die before them and they will still see your Grandchildren. Who's at the receiving end here? Humans or Jinns?


Just as Empiree used to say here that nkan nbe faa. Lol

In Summary, I want to know if there is anyone that knows anything about the kind of knowledge I seek or anywhere I could get it because some of the things I want to know are things some people served their Sheikh for years before they could get. I don't think that should be the case nowadays. You don't have to live with a sheikh for so many years before he can share knowledge and experience with you. I might be wrong though. What kind of treatment is used to cure paralysis of the limbs that occurred as a result of Evil eye or attacks? I think I read somewhere that A Sahaba read suratul Fathia to cure evil eye? Do we have people like that nowadays?




I once asked Ikupakuti that "which is more powerful and dangerous, The Devil or Ignorance?" He said in quote "Ignorance is the prime adversary of man. The plots of the devil are weak in the face of knowledge."

I pray he comes back someday to shed more light on some of the topics discussed in his absence. May Allah protect him and everyone reading this.



Everything I have written here is my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong in any of my points.
Salam

Cc: Empiree Ladunal Mostyg Ikupakuti (Lol)

Everyone's full contribution would be greatly appreciated.

Wao, its actually a long post.
I will recommend you read about Ben halimah Abdulrafi. http://www.benhalimaabderraouf.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=192&Itemid=354&lang=en


As regards treatment of ailments associated with sorcery, witchcraft, back magic, jinns, all these could be done through ruqya.
One thing I have noticed is that people actually recite the Qur'anic verses without having intention of what you intend to happen to the jin. You must also tell the jin to get out of the body.

There is human possession and jin possession. Human possession are though more than join possession. If it is human, sorcery, black magic or witchcraft is involved. You may need to destroy all these. You may pray to Allah to destroy wherever those things are kept or ask the possessing spirit once it has surrender to bring it, ( you won't see, some see) and then recite ayatal kurisiyu on it to be destroyed or a suratul furqan vs 22 ( waqodimno.....). By Allah's grace the sorcery/ witchcraft/ black magic would be destroyed.

In the case of evil eye, their is a prophetic recommendation of victim bathing with the water from the evil eyed ( not so sure for now).

Allahu alam

This is deep.

Which state do you live if I may ask?

Jamo90:
Thanks @Ladunal I'll check it out.

This would be a long read. Please pardon my typos.

I've been making some deep research on some of the topics discussed here recently but I'm particularly interested in about four, of which one would be our main focus now.

#I read movado's posts in the Islam and Spirituality section on the dreams she had probably as a result of the Dua of protection against Shaytan she's been involved in. I noted some of her concerns and points.



The Topic I've been pondering about is on Iwosan: The Cure to the enemy's Spiritual Arrow.

From my research, I discovered that there are more supplications and Dua on protection from Jinns and evil eye than on the duas and Cure from the effects of these ailments when they have already afflicted a person. "Ailments" in this context is restricted to the physical manifestation of spiritual attack through Stroke. I have spoken with people who claimed to have been shot or bitten by snake in the dream before they had paralysis of the hands and legs which has greatly affected their walking. It is not something that can be overlooked. You don't have to wait before it happens to someone close to you.


I'd have loved to read Ikupakuti's view on this subject.
Oga Empiree is right when he said we should seek knowledge on Islamic Spirituality because those shuyuks who have the knowledge are truly dying at a faster pace lately. When you remove Spirituality from Islam, you have certainly reduced it to other dead religions. One Vulture will become king over the dead bodies of a hundred Lions.

I'd like to read mostyg's view on this. I have read your posts on using Ruqyah to treat jinn possession in Islam. Are you aware about any correlation between evil eye, spiritual arrow, jinn possessions and Stroke?

It is not enough to Know the preventive measures of an ailment if the cure to the same ailment after it has afflicted a person is not known. This has led many people to go back to the enemy for assistance. How can a man who was bitten by a snake go to the herbalist, only to be told the only cure is to drink alcohol from a bottle that has a dead snake in it.

You'd be surprised at the number of people In this Islamic section who would cross carpet when the enemy gives them an uppercut. You can make Tahjud when you need financial help from Allah or when you have a case in court. But what do you do when you can't speak nor walk. Your family members have tried everything possible and are now suggesting that you be carried to one baba in Ijebu. You don't have access to Ruhaniyah like our Oga here Lol.



Your research on Islamic Spirituality would have made it easier for you to tell your family on what Surah to recite or which Sheikh in your contact list to call. A sheikh who will treat you by using the Combination of Quran, hadith and teachings of the Prophet (SAW)



I have been planning to embark on knowledge-seeking journey on issues like this just to have a first hand knowledge of how some afflictions are cured with the Power of Allah hidden in the Qur'an. This will take time, money, perseverance and of course, persuasion of these shuyuks. I pray Allah makes it easy Insha Allah.

Please pardon my type of Questions on here. I have lived amongst people who have received serious thrashing from Shaytan probably due to their Ignorance.

My friend's Mom rented a shop at **** Lagos Island. She went to the shop to inspect the new tiles and paintings done at the Shop. She slipped, fell flatly on the floor and lost her sight immediately. How did slipping cause blindness?
My friend relocated within a month to another state because he was scared something would happen to his newly married wife and unborn baby.

# I know for a fact that a jinn/demon is involved in this attack.


I listened to a recorded audio of Islamic exorcism posted on this forum months ago. The man was bewitched by a relative years before the the exorcism took place but the jinns sent were waiting for the perfect time to attack. He was a devoted Muslim and couldn't be attacked easily. They followed him around for about 8 years until he backslided and they came in for finishing. He went crazy upstairs and things went downhill from there.
An 80 year old jinn is still a baby because most of them sometimes live for hundreds of years. They know your Great Grandparents. it's very likely you'll die before them and they will still see your Grandchildren. Who's at the receiving end here? Humans or Jinns?


Just as Empiree used to say here that nkan nbe faa. Lol

In Summary, I want to know if there is anyone that knows anything about the kind of knowledge I seek or anywhere I could get it because some of the things I want to know are things some people served their Sheikh for years before they could get. I don't think that should be the case nowadays. You don't have to live with a sheikh for so many years before he can share knowledge and experience with you. I might be wrong though. What kind of treatment is used to cure paralysis of the limbs that occurred as a result of Evil eye or attacks? I think I read somewhere that A Sahaba read suratul Fathia to cure evil eye? Do we have people like that nowadays?




I once asked Ikupakuti that "which is more powerful and dangerous, The Devil or Ignorance?" He said in quote "Ignorance is the prime adversary of man. The plots of the devil are weak in the face of knowledge."

I pray he comes back someday to shed more light on some of the topics discussed in his absence. May Allah protect him and everyone reading this.



Everything I have written here is my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong in any of my points.
Salam

Cc: Empiree Ladunal Mostyg Ikupakuti (Lol)

Everyone's full contribution would be greatly appreciated.

mostyg:


Wao, its actually a long post.
I will recommend you read about Ben halimah Abdulrafi. http://www.benhalimaabderraouf.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=192&Itemid=354&lang=en


As regards treatment of ailments associated with sorcery, witchcraft, back magic, jinns, all these could be done through ruqya.
One thing I have noticed is that people actually recite the Qur'anic verses without having intention of what you intend to happen to the jin. You must also tell the jin to get out of the body.

There is human possession and jin possession. Human possession are though more than join possession. If it is human, sorcery, black magic or witchcraft is involved. You may need to destroy all these. You may pray to Allah to destroy wherever those things are kept or ask the possessing spirit once it has surrender to bring it, ( you won't see, some see) and then recite ayatal kurisiyu on it to be destroyed or a suratul furqan vs 22 ( waqodimno.....). By Allah's grace the sorcery/ witchcraft/ black magic would be destroyed.

In the case of evil eye, their is a prophetic recommendation of victim bathing with the water from the evil eyed ( not so sure for now).

Allahu alam

Thanks for your Contribution. You are talking about jinn possession but I'm talking about jinn oppression. This is when the jinn is not inside the human but has caused afflictions from outside and has gone. That is, it has come to destroy and has left.

I know who Ben Halima is. I've read and watched a lot of his videos on YouTube. Are you actively involved in Ruqyah Services? Do you mind sharing some of your experiences here so we can learn more about the topic?

I know Some of these stuffs are esoteric knowledge and one can not come across it easily on here. So one has to make personal research, create time and travel to learn.


@Empiree I live in Lagos for now.

I told someone aged recently who said to me so and so have more Islamic knowledge than you.

In other words. Trying to tell me
I should accept his decree without questioning.

My reply:
" I don't care if the person may be the chief imam of the whole Lagos state, if he brings a doctrine, not in the Quran or a clear hadith about it.. I will reject it!.


The reality is this when situations occur and you get close to people, the people you think ought to know basics about religion don't really know jack, they just follow their sheik and imams without going back to research themselves. It's bad

I respect people especially people with knowledge. Islamic knowledge the more but that doesn't mean, I won't go back and research on the things you told me.

We are humans nobody is perfect.

Allah Alam.

Jamo90:



Thanks for your Contribution. You are talking about jinn possession but I'm talking about jinn oppression. This is when the jinn is not inside the human but has caused afflictions from outside and has gone. That is, it has come to destroy and has left.

I know who Ben Halima is. I've read and watched a lot of his videos on YouTube. Are you actively involved in Ruqyah Services? Do you mind sharing some of your experiences here so we can learn more about the topic?

I know Some of these stuffs are esoteric knowledge and one can not come across it easily on here. So one has to make personal research, create time and travel to learn.


@Empiree I live in Lagos for now.

I think bro mostyg has sufficiently answered your question with his reply up there. In fact Jinn possession to me is more tormenting than its oppression. And t h is sentence succinctly deal with the problem you are asking and I quote:

"As regards treatment of ailments associated with sorcery, witchcraft, back magic, jinns, all these could be done through ruqya."

I think couple with ruqya, a normal PRAYER du'a for the relieving one of any stress can be gleaned from Quran and subsequently recited often for the removal of the calamity. The prayer of Prophet Ayub(as) comes to mind in this regard, a clear case of devil's oppression. Also seeking little medical treatment in this case wouldn't be out of place since the jinn is not within the body again.

Above all, I believe, sincerely plea to Allah during our daily namaz and tahajud (especiall during sujud) is enough to remove any form of predicament if we hold to patient, by the victim's or being done for him.

Allah allam

^^
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't get the bolded until you talked about it. Thanks

Dreydoe:
I told someone aged recently who said to me so and so have more Islamic knowledge than you.

In other words. Trying to tell me
I should accept his decree without questioning.

My reply:
" I don't care if the person may be the chief imam of the whole Lagos state, if he brings a doctrine, not in the Quran or a clear hadith about it.. I will reject it!.


The reality is this when situations occur and you get close to people, the people you think ought to know basics about religion don't really know jack, they just follow their sheik and imams without going back to research themselves. It's bad

I respect people especially people with knowledge. Islamic knowledge the more but that doesn't mean, I won't go back and research on the things you told me.

We are humans nobody is perfect.

Allah Alam.

Taqlid is bad. After learning things from someone, it just makes sense to research on your own. This is called "student of knowledge".

Jamo90:



Thanks for your Contribution. You are talking about jinn possession but I'm talking about jinn oppression. This is when the jinn is not inside the human but has caused afflictions from outside and has gone. That is, it has come to destroy and has left.

I know who Ben Halima is. I've read and watched a lot of his videos on YouTube. Are you actively involved in Ruqyah Services? Do you mind sharing some of your experiences here so we can learn more about the topic?

I know Some of these stuffs are esoteric knowledge and one can not come across it easily on here. So one has to make personal research, create time and travel to learn.


@Empiree I live in Lagos for now.

From my little knowledge, affliction caused by jinn or human possession can be cured by ruqyah. Let me also add that the ruqi can invoke Allah to bring back the jinn causing the affliction. This is done by reciting "aynomo takumu yati bikumullahu jamian, inallah alakulishein qadir and innahu alarajiun laqadir) So with that you can deal with the jinn and make him/ her remove whatever thing placed in the victims body causing the affliction.

I have done this severally with Allah's grace.

mostyg:


From my little knowledge, affliction caused by jinn or human possession can be cured by ruqyah. Let me also add that the ruqi can invoke Allah to bring back the jinn causing the affliction. This is done by reciting "aynomo takumu yati bikumullahu jamian, inallah alakulishein qadir and innahu alarajiun laqadir) So with that you can deal with the jinn and make him/ her remove whatever thing placed in the victims body causing the affliction.

I have done this severally with Allah's grace.

Human possession is the most wicked one. if i got it right, human possession is he same way Jinn possess human and speak through thier victim, right?. This was exactly what sheikh Isa Akindele narrated. A woman possessed a lady who insulted her and she spoke from her. Sheikh said that he asked her "are you sure you are not jinn?". She confirmed she is human being and she gave her house address for confirmation. I think i have the video on my profile. It is crazy. Sheikh Isa said that was the first time he experience such thing. I think she agree to leave but she she would still go after her. But she didnt leave the moment the story was narrated.

Empiree:
Human possession is the most wicked one. if i got it right, human possession is he same way Jinn possess human and speak through thier victim, right?. This was exactly what sheikh Isa Akindele narrated. A woman possessed a lady who insulted her and she spoke from her. Sheikh said that he asked her "are you sure you are not jinn?". She confirmed she is human being and she gave her house address for confirmation. I think i have the video on my profile. It is crazy. Sheikh Isa said that was the first time he experience such thing. I think she agree to leave but she she would still go after her. But she didnt leave the moment the story was narrated.

From my little experience, if the possessing spirit is taking too much time to leave, its probably human. Jinns are not as stubborn as human.
When sorcery, black magic, witchcraft are involved, human possession is most likely the case..
I feel strongly that once a human tried to inflict another human being, during ruqyah the qarin of the former would appear in the later.
In case of witchcraft when a member of the witch group responsible for the afflictions appears we know we have to deal with all, because they ll always come back for a revenge mission ( awo ni ngbe awo ni igbowo........) that's there believe.
By and large, the ruqyah has been a powerful tool to deal with oppressing humans and jinns.

I discovered that a victim could be made to challenge or talk to the possessing spirit. This is done by telling him/ her to talk to his/ her mind without speaking out but with eyes closed for concentration. The jinn sometimes answer all questions the victims ask. This helps both the ruqi and victims to ascertain the victims' problems as spiritual.

mostyg:


[b]From my little knowledge, affliction caused by jinn or human possession can be cured by ruqyah. [/b]Let me also add that the ruqi can invoke Allah to bring back the jinn causing the affliction. This is done by reciting "aynomo takumu yati bikumullahu jamian, inallah alakulishein qadir and innahu alarajiun laqadir) So with that you can deal with the jinn and make him/ her remove whatever thing placed in the victims body causing the affliction.

I have done this severally with Allah's grace.

Thanks once again. I never knew Ruqyah could be employed to remove afflictions done by the jinn. I thoughts its only for possession. This is eye-opening and everything is clear to me now. I may get in touch with you someday, If Allah wills. Most likely for personal research and I hope you don't mind.

I'd like to ask a question, why are there very few people who know and apply Ruqyah as a form of Cure to afflictions in Islam especially in South West? Most alfas have no idea what it is and how it's done.

Jamo90:


Thanks once again. I never knew Ruqyah could be employed to remove afflictions done by the jinn. I thoughts its only for possession. This is eye-opening and everything is clear to me now. I may get in touch with you someday, If Allah wills. Most likely for personal research and I hope you don't mind.

I'd like to ask a question, why are there very few people who know and apply Ruqyah as a form of Cure to afflictions in Islam especially in South West? Most alfas have no idea what it is and how it's done.

Not everyone can be a specialist in Ruqyah.
Different Alfas have their specialities.

Jamo90:


Thanks once again. I never knew Ruqyah could be employed to remove afflictions done by the jinn. I thoughts its only for possession. This is eye-opening and everything is clear to me now. I may get in touch with you someday, If Allah wills. Most likely for personal research and I hope you don't mind.

I'd like to ask a question, why are there very few people who know and apply Ruqyah as a form of Cure to afflictions in Islam especially in South West? Most alfas have no idea what it is and how it's done.

I am an accidentally raqi. I once took a friend for ruqyah and I decided to stay around. Few days later, I told the raqis I want to learn and they accepted me. One of my first assignment was to interview and sermonize some possessing spirit. It later became not much of a big deal with the help of Allah.
People are not much into it probably because of fear of reprisal attack especially in cases of witchcraft. Men fear jinns whom they aren't suppose to fear.
With Allah's help, a lot have been revealed through ruqyah. You can only understand by experiencing it.
May Allah continue to be our helper.
Some raqi believe one can't perform ruqyah on a non Muslim but I believe otherwise ( with evidence ). Ruqyah is a powerful tool to affirm our faith in Allah and bring people into the fold of Islam.
Allah is our guide.

Alhajiemeritus:

Not everyone can be a specialist in Ruqyah.
Different Alfas have their specialities.

Oh Yes I know. Some Alfas have probably heard about it and don't want to get involved because they are probably afraid of reprisal attacks, just like most.yg said.

What's your specialty? Let's learn from you Sir.

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mostyg:


I am an accidentally raqi. I once took a friend for ruqyah and I decided to stay around. Few days later, I told the raqis I want to learn and they accepted me. One of my first assignment was to interview and sermonize some possessing spirit. It later became not much of a big deal with the help of Allah.
People are not much into it probably because of fear of reprisal attack especially in cases of witchcraft. Men fear jinns whom they aren't suppose to fear.
With Allah's help, a lot have been revealed through ruqyah. You can only understand by experiencing it.
May Allah continue to be our helper.
Some raqi believe one can't perform ruqyah on a non Muslim but I believe otherwise ( with evidence ). Ruqyah is a powerful tool to affirm our faith in Allah and bring people into the fold of Islam.
Allah is our guide.

LOL You experienced it and loved it. A lot of secrets gets revealed through Ruqyah. I watched a video of Ben Halima's jinn catching in Republic of Niger about Boko haram and President Buhari. The jinn talked about marabouts killing more than 20 babies just for sacrifice to make the President win the election. The more you look the less you see. I think someone posted the video on this thread.


I have watched videos of Alhaji Issa Akindele and Alh Yusuf Adepoju of Acadip where they said that they do not perform Ruqyah on non Muslims. I guess You are different.

Jamo90:


Oh Yes I know. Some Alfas have probably heard about it and don't want to get involved because they are probably afraid of reprisal attacks, just like most.yg said.

What's your specialty? Let's learn from you Sir.

I am just a seeker of knowledge sir.

Jamo90:


Oh Yes I know. Some Alfas have probably heard about it and don't want to get involved because they are probably afraid of reprisal attacks, just like most.yg said.

What's your specialty? Let's learn from you Sir.

Yes, some do fear of reprisal attacks, that if enemies of their victims can't get them they go after their children.

But they failed to realize that if they are steadfast, either jinn or human possession, sihr or magic are peanuts PROVIDED their victims are in the right.

Muslims don't have to go to alawo to have their problems solved

The evidence was mentioned in a book named
عالج نفسك بالقرآن والاعشاب

mostyg:


I am an accidentally raqi. I once took a friend for ruqyah and I decided to stay around. Few days later, I told the raqis I want to learn and they accepted me. One of my first assignment was to interview and sermonize some possessing spirit. It later became not much of a big deal with the help of Allah.
People are not much into it probably because of fear of reprisal attack especially in cases of witchcraft. Men fear jinns whom they aren't suppose to fear.
With Allah's help, a lot have been revealed through ruqyah. You can only understand by experiencing it.
May Allah continue to be our helper.
Some raqi believe one can't perform ruqyah on a non Muslim but I believe otherwise ( with evidence ). Ruqyah is a powerful tool to affirm our faith in Allah and bring people into the fold of Islam.
Allah is our guide.

This is deep and lovely, it will be nice to read more experience from you,as I feel will strengthen lots Emaan.
Also are there visible signs of knowing who is possessed or into witchcraft? Also the TB Joshua and co' in the Christendom, how true is theirs?

Fkhalifa:
This is deep and lovely, it will be nice to read more experience from you,as I feel will strengthen lots Emaan.
Also are there visible signs of knowing who is possessed or into witchcraft? Also the TB Joshua and co' in the Christendom, how true is theirs?

Most of these pastor use powerful jinns on less powerful one. Also there are Christians among the jinns who help some pastors without the latter's knowledge. One Christian jinn during a ruqyah section revealed the effort he makes in converting humans into Christianity. They are the ones who usually bring picture of Christ to people in their dreams.
I also once heard of a pastor who named his jinn Jesus. So whenever he says "in Jesus name" , he his actually referring to his jinn.

Just yesterday, a lady came to my office to ask I didn't include her name in a list I was authorized to work on and released. This is someone I know and I see the efforts she makes to excel. We later got talking and I asked her about how often she has headache. She responded that it is frequent. One of the diagnostic sign of jinn possession is frequent headache.
I asked her about pain in any part of the body, her response was also positive. She said she also sometimes hear sounds in the hear. She said she couldn't remember her dreams. I probed further and asked about sex in dreams. Response was also positive.
Other signs I found out from her include being afraid of the dark ( she can't sleep with light off), always scared of every little things and feeling something moving in her body.

She thought everything was normal, there is no big deal experiencing all those.
I knew I was dealing with a case of jinn possession. I was in my office and couldn't do ruqyah, so I told her to close her eyes and talk to her mind, to talk as if she is talking to someone ( of course, the jinn). She should ask the following questions, who are you? Why are you troubling my life? What did I do to you? Etc. After some minutes, I told her to open her eyes and asked her to tell me what happened. She told me" I feel empty as if something left my body" She meant she feel light, I knew the jinn left because I also felt a mild electric sock on my body. She also she saw a dark male shape but didn't see the face..
I know the jinn left and may come back to her later because a jinn lover don't leave easily. She would need ruqyah.

Those things I asked her a signs of jinn or human possession but we sometimes take no heed.

Like I said before, I am an accidental raqi with a regular office job. I m not an Alfa as some would have thought.

^^

This is crazy. I know they used Jinn. Acadip network spoke about something like this too.

See your first paragraph, that is what emekaraj was talking about jinn waging war on MUSLIMS