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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by imoriafe: 6:18am On Oct 30, 2018
[I just sent u a dm, or u can mail me thanks.. quote author=henricson post=72370673]


Log on to their site and read it up,
http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada
But from what I was told at Lagos vfs, no one can pick up your stamped passport, it has to be you. [/quote]
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by ghabrhiel10: 7:02am On Oct 30, 2018
Dwebb55:


Can you share the translated reasons?

Sure
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by ghabrhiel10: 7:32am On Oct 30, 2018
No evidence of travel history presented. The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018. He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada. Therefore for all the reasons mentioned above, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a bona-fide student who meets the requirements of the IRPA and who will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. Request rejected

Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Kriff: 8:12am On Oct 30, 2018
Sorry about the denial. The VO is quite blunt though but that is because you were not convicing enough.
How many months have you being working prior to your submission?
You were working in what field?
How many pages was your letter of motivation?
What was your reason (s) for choosing to go for that course?
Letter of motivation, as I know, is always a short letter and why did you choose to write letter of motivation instead of Statement of Purpose or Personal statement?
ghabrhiel10:
No evidence of travel history presented. The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018. He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada. Therefore for all the reasons mentioned above, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a bona-fide student who meets the requirements of the IRPA and who will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. Request rejected
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by jnyuwa02: 8:14am On Oct 30, 2018
Senatorkolade:


White people don't look at it that way. In African context if an elderly is talking to you and you are making an eye contact with the person, you are rude but to Oyinbos, you are confidence of what you are saying. There is nothing wrong in pointing to the VO the relevant laws that might have been breached. People do make mistakes with appealing to Oyinbos. These white people are different with their thinking o. Appealing to them is like pleading guilty or looking desperate. Don't use vulgar language for them. Just analyse it to them why you think they have erred.

Let me give you a scenario, I work with British and American Consular in the airport here in Lagos. On profiling a guy, the consular had a concern with a passenger and the guy was appealing to the Oyinbo to show a favourable discretion to him in a very polite way as you suggested. Do you know what the white man told me, he said Kolade, offload this man. If he is confident of his story, why asking for leniency?

SO THESE VISA OFFICERS DONT LOOK AT IT THAT WAY O

You are telling the VO in your SOP that in the last decision he/she "arbitrary and capriciously" made a decision. This is language reserved if you were appealing to a higher court to intervene in a VO's decision. If you want a winning reapplication, you should ask the VO to "respectfully reconsider their previous decision in light of new evidence or new explanation." White or black people think in a lot of similar ways. People in power always like to be appealed to. Last time I check there is no right to a visa, only a privilege. A recipe for success is to appeal to the VO to exercise their discretion, not demand that such discretion be exercised because the law was arbitrary and capriciously followed the last time. Appealing respectfully to a VO to favorably exercise discretion on your behalf doesn't mean you are asking for leniency.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by mightyola: 8:17am On Oct 30, 2018
I think he wrote a statement of purpose and not a letter of motivation. Bear in mind that he translated the notes from french to English, sometimes you don't get the exact word in verbatim.

Kriff:
Sorry about the denial. The VO is quite blunt though but that is because you were not convicing enough.
How many months have you being working prior to your submission?
You were working in what field?
How many pages was your letter of motivation?
What was your reason (s) for choosing to go for that course?
Letter of motivation, as I know, is always a short letter and why did you choose to write letter of motivation instead of Statement of Purpose or Personal statement?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Kriff: 8:20am On Oct 30, 2018
That's possible though.
mightyola:
I think he wrote a statement of purpose and not a letter of motivation. Bear in mind that he translated the notes from french to English, sometimes you don't get the exact word in verbatim.

Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Frankrobbn1: 8:29am On Oct 30, 2018
ghabrhiel10:
No evidence of travel history presented. The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018. He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada. Therefore for all the reasons mentioned above, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a bona-fide student who meets the requirements of the IRPA and who will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. Request rejected
ghabrhiel10,

First and foremost, I'll advice you go for a degree that is higher than your already completed degree/level of education. The visa officer doesn't see the reasonableness of undertaking such a diploma program in chemical engineering at a high expense whilst your previous studies was based on biochemistry. The letter of explanation you presented in your previous application appears indistinct and epigrammatic which doesn't portray the relevance of the program. In order to demonstrate that you're a bona-fide applicant and will return after studies, Your purpose of visit has to be solid in your SOP:

Firstly, you have to highlight your career progression up to now from what you have learned. Show them that you're well off at the moment with the current job and you're planning to step in to studies to move up the ladder.

Secondly, why do u want to study the specific program and how its going to help you to achieve your career aspirations. What would be the final outcome. What are the demand for that job and prospects in your home country. What are the additional qualifications or skills that you're going to obtain and how it will help you in future. What difference can you make upon your return to Nigeria and how will your international certificate be of cutting edge over your contemporaries.

Again, highlight why you have chosen Canada and the specific program and not Nigeria since there are similar available program (chemical engineering) here at a cheaper rate.

Lastly, present sufficient ties like properties, Investments, and shares under your name or family, that can compel your return back home after studies.

Once you can tackle the aforementioned points, travel history will be automatically waived for you!

Good luck!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by mightyola: 8:48am On Oct 30, 2018
I am sorry for your delay. what was the initial reasons for denial before you ordered your GCMS notes?. Did the Notes shed some more light as to why you were denied,or was just generic?. This might help people that are not convinced that the notes are of any good.

If I can read correctly, your notes says " The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018"- 3 years gap,what were you doing for those years?.

" He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada"[b][/b]- I think all this matter should have been properly explained in your SOP.

Finally, at least you know why you have been denied a visa, do the needful and reapply. May Your destiny lead and guide you.

Good luck

ghabrhiel10:
No evidence of travel history presented. The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018. He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada. Therefore for all the reasons mentioned above, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a bona-fide student who meets the requirements of the IRPA and who will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. Request rejected

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by ghabrhiel10: 8:48am On Oct 30, 2018
Kriff:
Sorry about the denial. The VO is quite blunt though but that is because you were not convicing enough.
How many months have you being working prior to your submission?
You were working in what field?
How many pages was your letter of motivation?
What was your reason (s) for choosing to go for that course?
Letter of motivation, as I know, is always a short letter and why did you choose to write letter of motivation instead of Statement of Purpose or Personal statement?

Letter of motivation here is the same as SOP I wrote but it was very short(single page), my fault though. The course I'm going for is quite related to my bachelor's degree course though I made 2.2. I chose chemical engineering because I've always had interest in industrial production and drug production, uses, action and effects of drugs(pharmacology), I even had my industrial training in a producing company. The VO misunderstood a 3 months computer program I was doing as a job. Please can getting an US visiting visa help in tackling lack of travel history in my own case? This Canada process is just so stressful cry cry
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by ghabrhiel10: 8:54am On Oct 30, 2018
mightyola:

I am sorry for your delay. what was the initial reasons for denial before you ordered your GCMS notes?. Did the Notes shed some more light as to why you were denied,or was just generic?. This might help people that are not convinced that the notes are of any good.

If I can read correctly, your notes says " The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018"- 3 years gap,what were you doing for those years?.

" He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada"[b][/b]- I think all this matter should have been properly explained in your SOP.

Finally, at least you know why you have been denied a visa, do the needful and reapply. May Your destiny lead and guide you.

Good luck


I was denied based on travel history and purpose of visit. I just finished my youth service last year, the gap shouldn't be that much for me, what do you think please?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Austacus: 8:59am On Oct 30, 2018
ghabrhiel10:
No evidence of travel history presented. The applicant completed a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 2015 and has been working since April 2018. He now wants to start a three year program in chemical engineering techniques at the Mohawk College at an estimated cost of 26,284 Cad/year. The applicants letter of motivation is succinct and vague; it does not demonstrate the relevance of such studies at such a cost in Canada. Therefore for all the reasons mentioned above, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a bona-fide student who meets the requirements of the IRPA and who will leave Canada at the end of his/her authorized stay. Request rejected


The logical progression of career/studies is always expected by the Visa Officer
it is better to change it to PG level or Master level as you already hold a Bachelors Degree. (Personal Suggestion)

According to that reasons and comments, make a strong sop justifying all the reasons/comments made by VO in your GCMS notes.
And for other docs, as you are telling they all r perfect and professionally checked, so u need to make a new strong sop.
Well, No need for too much talk @frank done finish the work for you.

Bless you

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Kriff: 10:28am On Oct 30, 2018
You don't necessarily have to a US visting visa to counter travel history. People without travel history still get their TRV.

I studied Chemical Engineering so I can easily understand when you say your Bachelor is quite relating to Chemical engineering. Apart from what Frank said, relate your IT experience to Chemical engineering (that should be easy). Talk about what you learnt and how it has made you love Chemical engineering and how it will impact your next academic level. Also, your 3 months computer programming can also help you here. After all, there is programming in chemical engineering also. Relate what you're learning there to Chemical engineering. You just need to twist words in your favour. If you write all these, then you are sure going to write more than a page and this time it won't be vague.

Good luck.
ghabrhiel10:


Letter of motivation here is the same as SOP I wrote but it was very short(single page), my fault though. The course I'm going for is quite related to my bachelor's degree course though I made 2.2. I chose chemical engineering because I've always had interest in industrial production and drug production, uses, action and effects of drugs(pharmacology), I even had my industrial training in a producing company. The VO misunderstood a 3 months computer program I was doing as a job. Please can getting an US visiting visa help in tackling lack of travel history in my own case? This Canada process is just so stressful cry cry

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Agbons101: 10:39am On Oct 30, 2018
ghabrhiel10:


Letter of motivation here is the same as SOP I wrote but it was very short(single page), my fault though. The course I'm going for is quite related to my bachelor's degree course though I made 2.2. I chose chemical engineering because I've always had interest in industrial production and drug production, uses, action and effects of drugs(pharmacology), I even had my industrial training in a producing company. The VO misunderstood a 3 months computer program I was doing as a job. Please can getting an US visiting visa help in tackling lack of travel history in my own case? This Canada process is just so stressful cry cry
short SOP is not an issue. ..mine was barely a page! its the content dat matters...

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by makano: 10:55am On Oct 30, 2018
Travel history shouldnt be ur headache here. We have seen countless number of peeps here getting their TRV without leaving this shores of this country, So u dont need to be travel to the US or Afganistan. All you need to do is to tackle the other refusal reasons and travel history will automatically disappear.Peace
ghabrhiel10:


Letter of motivation here is the same as SOP I wrote but it was very short(single page), my fault though. The course I'm going for is quite related to my bachelor's degree course though I made 2.2. I chose chemical engineering because I've always had interest in industrial production and drug production, uses, action and effects of drugs(pharmacology), I even had my industrial training in a producing company. The VO misunderstood a 3 months computer program I was doing as a job. Please can getting an US visiting visa help in tackling lack of travel history in my own case? This Canada process is just so stressful cry cry
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by ghabrhiel10: 12:14pm On Oct 30, 2018
Guys thanks for all the advice, I'm really grateful and I'll work harder on my SOP again. Please I'll need you guys (anybody) still to help proof read so I don't make this same mistake. God bless you all for your kindness
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by sleekysoft(m): 1:13pm On Oct 30, 2018
Please sorry to ask I want to believe people are getting approval on a daily basis here in Nigeria , but how about NL family ?? What is really happening?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Famzyactivity: 1:30pm On Oct 30, 2018
Does royal Air Maroc Allows one to travel to canada on a way ticket?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by galala123(m): 1:45pm On Oct 30, 2018
Senatorkolade:


White people don't look at it that way. In African context if an elderly is talking to you and you are making an eye contact with the person, you are rude but to Oyinbos, you are confidence of what you are saying. There is nothing wrong in pointing to the VO the relevant laws that might have been breached. People do make mistakes with appealing to Oyinbos. These white people are different with their thinking o. Appealing to them is like pleading guilty or looking desperate. Don't use vulgar language for them. Just analyse it to them why you think they have erred.

Let me give you a scenario, I work with British and American Consular in the airport here in Lagos. On profiling a guy, the consular had a concern with a passenger and the guy was appealing to the Oyinbo to show a favourable discretion to him in a very polite way as you suggested. Do you know what the white man told me, he said Kolade, offload this man. If he is confident of his story, why asking for leniency?

SO THESE VISA OFFICERS DONT LOOK AT IT THAT WAY O
Thanks for the information. I think it's called culture shock!

Like begging a Police officer which is somehow normal here is an additional offence in some climes since you are trying to prevent him from carrying out his duty. Na judge you suppose plead with if you do wrong, and even judge has to work within his limits.

I suggest if you want to quote laws for them before you enter their Country, you should use a lawyer.

Was the guy you "offloaded" on his way out of the Country?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 2:34pm On Oct 30, 2018
Famzyactivity:
Does royal Air Maroc Allows one to travel to canada on a way ticket?

Yes
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 4:18pm On Oct 30, 2018
galala123:
Thanks for the information. I think it's called culture shock!

Like begging a Police officer which is somehow normal here is an additional offence in some climes since you are trying to prevent him from carrying out his duty. Na judge you suppose plead with if you do wrong, and even judge has to work within his limits.

I suggest if you want to quote laws for them before you enter their Country, you should use a lawyer.

Was the guy you "offloaded" on his way out of the Country?

Yes
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 4:34pm On Oct 30, 2018
Hello everyone am new here,I applied 23rd of June ,got the refusal e mail from them today.reason for refusal purpose of visit am so sad .i applied for undergraduate studies.am thinking of re applying but I don’t kn how to do it or what to do next.pls guys what can I do next.my age is 30yrs.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Henkubert: 4:47pm On Oct 30, 2018
I am May 19 2018 applicant.

Got medical request August 21st a day to my resumption.

I have deffer my addmision to February 2019

Passed medical August 27th

It's over 23weeks no final decision.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 4:58pm On Oct 30, 2018
Ifyraymonds:
Hello everyone am new here,I applied 23rd of June ,got the refusal e mail from them today.reason for refusal purpose of visit am so sad .i applied for undergraduate studies.am thinking of re applying but I don’t kn how to do it or what to do next.pls guys what can I do next.my age is 30yrs.

Sorry bro...seems dy have started attending to june/july/August applicants....go back to page 58-61...I believe som1 had the same issue and solutions was given to him...
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 4:59pm On Oct 30, 2018
Henkubert:
I am May 19 2018 applicant.

Got medical request August 21st a day to my resumption.

I have deffer my addmision to February 2019

Passed medical August 27th

It's over 23weeks no final decision.

Send mail to ask dem how far
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by henricson(m): 4:59pm On Oct 30, 2018
Ifyraymonds:
Hello everyone am new here,I applied 23rd of June ,got the refusal e mail from them today.reason for refusal purpose of visit am so sad .i applied for undergraduate studies.am thinking of re applying but I don’t kn how to do it or what to do next.pls guys what can I do next.my age is 30yrs.


This is sad... After four months! I don't think your age is an issue, you can reapply and address the purpose of visit issue. The VO was probably not convinced about your intent to study. Order gcms notes as it's the norm to evaluate VO notes for refusal.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 5:01pm On Oct 30, 2018
Ifyraymonds:
Hello everyone am new here,I applied 23rd of June ,got the refusal e mail from them today.reason for refusal purpose of visit am so sad .i applied for undergraduate studies.am thinking of re applying but I don’t kn how to do it or what to do next.pls guys what can I do next.my age is 30yrs.

U applied online or paper route?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 30, 2018
On line route
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 5:16pm On Oct 30, 2018
Ifyraymonds:
On line route

Okay...just try and work on your sop to convince them u are going there for nothing but studies...
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by blet(m): 5:28pm On Oct 30, 2018
hello guys, please i applied for my statement of account 4th of october, i plan to apply for visa this week, should i apply for another statement of account or can i use the one of october 4th?

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