When foreign agencies mentioned something about your country that suit your selfish mind,you believed them but when they go contrary you shout foul.

RockHard:


The only thing we have that is closest to an informed estimate of population spread are the telecoms data (attached below) because it is unbiased in any form, and it clearly shows the SE as the least populated while the SW is the single largest/most populated. Oyo and Ogun population alone are more than those of the SE combined (without including Lagos or Ekiti, Ondo, Osun or Kwara and Yoruba-speaking Kogi).

The telecom data is more reliable.

Mr Eziokwu the question you should be asking is what's the motive behind their so called stats and why are they so interested and concerned about Nigeria, is this another divisive attempt to make the hausa look more important than others...we really need to be careful with the so called information we get from these people before publishing it.

Eziokwu1:
The Central Intelligence Agency- CIA, The much quoted American intelligence unit website has made a revision on their website's Nigerian section under People and Society, Ethnic groups as well as Religion.: Updated November 09 , 2018.

According to them, this is the reflection of Nigeria's ethnic statistics:
Hausa 27.4%
Igbo (Ibo) 14.1%
Yoruba 13.9%
Fulani 6.3%
Tiv 2.2%
Ibibio 2.2%
Ijaw/Izon 2%
Kanuri/Beriberi 1.7%
Igala 1%
Others 28.9%
Unspecified 0.2%

It then goes on to say Muslims are 51.6% of the country, Christians are 46.9 (of which Roman Catholics are 11.2%), Traditionalists are 0.9%, while unspecified are 0.5%
https://www.cia.gov/llibrary/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html

But knowing that this same CIA is the same agency responsible for the much peddled Hausa-Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo 18% Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio-Efik 3.5% Figure that was brandished around for a very long time, is it safe to say these new figures are also unrealistic and suspect?
Also the way they seem to be able to arrive at such precise percentages, plus their inclusion of an "unspecified" category seem to suggest that they did some sort of survey? (If they did, then when, where and how did it happen)

Take for example, How Igalas be 1% but Urhobos don't rank?
Hausas and Fulanis together are now 33.7% from 29%
Igbos are now 14.1% from 18%
Yorubas came as the biggest shock crashing down to 13.9% from a previous 21% More than 7% decrease.
Ijaws also went frm 10% to 2% (This one i am not surprised, because trust me, everyone knew Ijaws were not 10% of Nigeria)

The consequence of this is that Hausas alone are now the same population as Igbos and Yorubas combined, without even factoring in the fulanis YET.

What actually happened? Are the new stats more believable than the old one from the same Agency, or are both figures old and new total crap, which would only suggest that this so called agency are just amateurs sitting in some armchair in faraway Washington D.C making wild unresearched guesses? Hmmn.

No way Igbos are more than Yorubas in population. In my opinion, Igbos are more spread out but not actually that populated.Give Igbos Biafra and send them packing from the rest of Nigeria, then and only then will we know their actual population.

NONSENSE.SO MY DEAR IDOMA TRIBE NO FOLLOW.IDOMA GET MORE POPULATION THAN IJAW AND TIV.HOW CAN IDOMA NO FOLLOW ？

bigfrancis21:


It's all assumptions bro. US people aren't that superficial as we tend to be in Nigeria. Before anything is released, it is well-researched, checked and vetted. Yes, mistakes often happen but it is FAR unlikely that they would base their recent statistics on some old 1963 census.

By the way, the 1963 census is clearly biased and different from the 1921 census that I consider to be the most decent one in Nigeria's history. By 1963, it is clear that the 'Nigerian factor' had clearly set in, 'mago mago' and tribalistic statistics were starting to be released.

So chill, go grab some pop corn and join me while we digest the new census data that closely mirrors that of 1921. *munches loudly on some Chick Fil' A popcorn*

So, did the American CIA conduct a census in Nigeria to decide this review.

My take is that the figures aren't reliable. We are in desperate need for a credible census in Nigeria to verify these information, evaluate and present several statistics.

Eziokwu1:
The Central Intelligence Agency- CIA, The much quoted American intelligence unit website has made a revision on their website's Nigerian section under People and Society, Ethnic groups as well as Religion.: Updated November 09 , 2018.

According to them, this is the reflection of Nigeria's ethnic statistics:
Hausa 27.4%
Igbo (Ibo) 14.1%
Yoruba 13.9%
Fulani 6.3%
Tiv 2.2%
Ibibio 2.2%
Ijaw/Izon 2%
Kanuri/Beriberi 1.7%
Igala 1%
Others 28.9%
Unspecified 0.2%

It then goes on to say Muslims are 51.6% of the country, Christians are 46.9 (of which Roman Catholics are 11.2%), Traditionalists are 0.9%, while unspecified are 0.5%
https://www.cia.gov/llibrary/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html

But knowing that this same CIA is the same agency responsible for the much peddled Hausa-Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo 18% Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio-Efik 3.5% Figure that was brandished around for a very long time, is it safe to say these new figures are also unrealistic and suspect?
Also the way they seem to be able to arrive at such precise percentages, plus their inclusion of an "unspecified" category seem to suggest that they did some sort of survey? (If they did, then when, where and how did it happen)

Take for example, How Igalas be 1% but Urhobos don't rank?
Hausas and Fulanis together are now 33.7% from 29%
Igbos are now 14.1% from 18%
Yorubas came as the biggest shock crashing down to 13.9% from a previous 21% More than 7% decrease.
Ijaws also went frm 10% to 2% (This one i am not surprised, because trust me, everyone knew Ijaws were not 10% of Nigeria)

The consequence of this is that Hausas alone are now the same population as Igbos and Yorubas combined, without even factoring in the fulanis YET.

What actually happened? Are the new stats more believable than the old one from the same Agency, or are both figures old and new total crap, which would only suggest that this so called agency are just amateurs sitting in some armchair in faraway Washington D.C making wild unresearched guesses? Hmmn.

The same fraud that they helped perpetuate in Nigeria's first census.
The same fraud that has helped keep Nigeria under neocolonial bondage and perpertual misery while they smile to the banks thanks to the Seven Sisters.

MXrep:

Your resort to insult proves you have no gist

You are claiming victim after insulting a whole tribe.
SMH

The question that needs to be asked is from whose ass did they get those figures? Did they conduct a census of the citizens? So, how the heck did they derive those numbers? These people would do everything to support their FAKE majority except to conduct a real CENSUS with unbiased international watchers. No reasonable person is fooled by all these made up numbers intended to support your several decades of lies and deceptions.

scholes0:


Contrary to your write up and qhat I just quoted you on, the old CIA figures are actually based on the result of an Old Nigerian census that included ethnic and religious data. They probably just did their own little tweaking to it and published it as research. EVeryone knows these western agencies know jackshit about Africa or Nigeria ...

This was where the old figures came from. It was the result of Nigeria's 1963 census, that was done before the civil war.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2568779_48myjko_jpegcecde0d41350fd4fee05703ffa3d97bf

See, Before G.E.J came to power Ijaws have always been at 2% on that C.I.A and other sources Website. It was when the Niger Delta Militant crisis and Jonathan's ascension occured than They suddenly shot up to 10%.

As you can see, the old figures roughly corresponds to the new one, which was what they had up before like some sort of Ingenious research. Fulani plus Hausa, roughly 29%, Yoruba about 21%, Kanuris about 4%, Ibibis 3.5% yada yada..... They probably tweaked the figures and bumed Igbos up to 18 .... and so forth.....

the picture you attached there is not for 1963 but a cooked up BS by an idot. In 1963, there was nothing like Edo or Rivers state, most states written there were non-existence so where did you get that picture from?

TroubleMaker47:

That was before the civil war where over 1 million igbos died

Not only Igbos were victims during the civil war, some SS minorities were victims too.. Despite loosing a lot during the civil war, Igbos still maintain their second position...

bigfrancis21:


Data that captures less than half of the Nigerian population is credible?

But it is STILL a better REPRESENTATIVE sample than anything you are proposing.

bigfrancis21:


Data that captures less than half of the Nigerian population is credible?

But it is STILL a far better REPRESENTATIVE sample than anything you are proposing.

All these estimates​ ie CIA or Telecoms are a lot of estimates​. A simple accurate population census that will factor in religion and ethnicity will solve these whole confusion once and for all. Why is it very difficult to conduct?

RockHard:


The only thing we have that is closest to an informed estimate of population spread are the telecoms data (attached below) because it is unbiased in any form, and it clearly shows the SE as the least populated while the SW is the single largest/most populated. Oyo and Ogun population alone are more than those of the SE combined (without including Lagos or Ekiti, Ondo, Osun or Kwara and Yoruba-speaking Kogi).

Seems you've not heard the joke about Yoruba people staying long on the phone......talking ..... ah! yeah! egbami o! kilonsele!

Igbo people don't do long thing. "money izzi velli velli impörtantï meeeen". No time to waste on calls mate.

Keep using active voice to determine population, Yoruba wey go talk talk talk full every where.

oilPUSSY:

Check the number of Igbos outside Igbo land then compare it with other tribes men that are outside their region and see the gap..

Tell me a place in Nigeria you won't see some igbo dominated Communities ...
Mind you, Igbos are not only indigenous in SE

Again, you don't judge ethnic population based on voice call because alot of people have multiple sim cards for business.
To expose you more, we were told that NE has the highest voting strength in Nigeria while Northerners are most populated according to INEC and Nigeria population commission, but the reverse is the case with your submission.

Most people from SW use more than 20 sim cards for yahoo yahoo and the rest of them due to expoure. The same cannot be said about most northerners.

Try to understand where I am heading to

Dis one brain dey full of 'oyel' and dandruff..

scholes0:
I am sorry but this is total B.S

No way in Hell Yorubas are 13 point something Percent of Nigeria.
Are you shittting me? Funny.

If this truly is from CIA's website then it's obvious one glass wearing nerd who knows nothing about Nigeria and it's people just did a little guess work and estimated this figures. There's no way the Hausa population doubles the yorubas

RockHard:


That is why I said even if the SW 'dashes' igbos 5-million out of our total SW population (going by that data I presented), una go still fall far short. Oyo and Ogun combined telecoms data subscribers outnumber those of the entire SE states combined. That's just two states in the SW. The 4 remaining SW states (as well as Kwara and YOruba-speaking Kogi) have a combined telecoms subscriber base of atleast 28-million. If you still don't get it, then I cannot help you. I dey go to bed.

Ova this is statistics you are dashing out anyhow.
There are many other things to put on the table before 'dashing'.
How on earth can you be judging ethnic composition with telecom subscription.
Can you as it is say the number of non Yoruba people in Lagos, Ibadan and Abeokuta. You have to know these figures before you dash any figure to anyone. The cities especially Lagos are highly saturated with non Yoruba and there's no way you can say for sure that Yoruba is more than visitors there.
Telecom companies are within Nigeria and if it is possible that census figures can be tampered by political powers then telecom companies are not free from it.
These are not emotional stuffs it's just what it is and now that a neutral body that is outside of any sort of Nigerian political influence has released it; maybe you guys can give it a hard thought.

YorubaAssasin:


Dis one brain dey full of 'oyel' and dandruff..

Here they go...

MXrep:

Na wa oo. What concerns this with ethnic population? I thought yorubas were educated

You meant "are educated".

Perhaps, if I were you... I'd check ur brain against any cerebrum fluid leak.

scholes0:


Contrary to your write up and qhat I just quoted you on, the old CIA figures are actually based on the result of an Old Nigerian census that included ethnic and religious data. They probably just did their own little tweaking to it and published it as research. EVeryone knows these western agencies know jackshit about Africa or Nigeria ...

This was where the old figures came from. It was the result of Nigeria's 1963 census, that was done before the civil war.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2568779_48myjko_jpegcecde0d41350fd4fee05703ffa3d97bf

See, Before G.E.J came to power Ijaws have always been at 2% on that C.I.A and other sources Website. It was when the Niger Delta Militant crisis and Jonathan's ascension occured than They suddenly shot up to 10%.

As you can see, the old figures roughly corresponds to the new one, which was what they had up before like some sort of Ingenious research. Fulani plus Hausa, roughly 29%, Yoruba about 21%, Kanuris about 4%, Ibibis 3.5% yada yada..... They probably tweaked the figures and bumed Igbos up to 18 .... and so forth.....

So according to you a FIFTY FIVE years old figure is more trust worthy than a current estimate by the CIA?
A Census that was roundly condemned by all parties at the time..

I won't be surprised if this info is not from CIA's website as the post suggests it is. This could just be another political propaganda from "some people" to justify their claims when the finally rig 2019 general elections...but what do I even know sef?

oilPUSSY:

Here they go...

No wonder y'all ran away from that your godforsaken savage jungle to our civilized SW lands.

Nevertheless, we remain your eternal masters and determine your pple's destiny. I'll implore my able Fashola, Ambode and the future leaders to keep the torch aloft by dealing mercilessly with you cannibalistic Savages.

If need be, I'll bring in your 'scorching' old friend... OBJ to replay the 1966 game for you all.

CIA de high on weed

Fake statistics

Man, these Hausas populate like it's a sport. I guess my assumption that Boko Haram is simply population control in effect is a fact then. When a population is too much nature [sometimes man in his infinite wisdom] quickly thinks up a way to control the rising numbers.

This is what happens when you force people to choose one tribe or religions..



Nigerians are multi religious. We are 90% traditionalists. Some Muslims see pastors underground some christians see Alfa underground. It all depends on who is selling at the moment


We are also multi-tribed. (new word alert).


I don't know who is sending CIA to classify us like this

I blame Igbo muslims for this unbelievable population explosion

Eziokwu1:
The Central Intelligence Agency- CIA, The much quoted American intelligence unit website has made a revision on their website's Nigerian section under People and Society, Ethnic groups as well as Religion.: Updated November 09 , 2018.

According to them, this is the reflection of Nigeria's ethnic statistics:
Hausa 27.4%
Igbo (Ibo) 14.1%
Yoruba 13.9%
Fulani 6.3%
Tiv 2.2%
Ibibio 2.2%
Ijaw/Izon 2%
Kanuri/Beriberi 1.7%
Igala 1%
Others 28.9%
Unspecified 0.2%

It then goes on to say Muslims are 51.6% of the country, Christians are 46.9 (of which Roman Catholics are 11.2%), Traditionalists are 0.9%, while unspecified are 0.5%
https://www.cia.gov/llibrary/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html

But knowing that this same CIA is the same agency responsible for the much peddled Hausa-Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo 18% Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio-Efik 3.5% Figure that was brandished around for a very long time, is it safe to say these new figures are also unrealistic and suspect?
Also the way they seem to be able to arrive at such precise percentages, plus their inclusion of an "unspecified" category seem to suggest that they did some sort of survey? (If they did, then when, where and how did it happen)

Take for example, How Igalas be 1% but Urhobos don't rank?
Hausas and Fulanis together are now 33.7% from 29%
Igbos are now 14.1% from 18%
Yorubas came as the biggest shock crashing down to 13.9% from a previous 21% More than 7% decrease.
Ijaws also went frm 10% to 2% (This one i am not surprised, because trust me, everyone knew Ijaws were not 10% of Nigeria)

The consequence of this is that Hausas alone are now the same population as Igbos and Yorubas combined, without even factoring in the fulanis YET.

What actually happened? Are the new stats more believable than the old one from the same Agency, or are both figures old and new total crap, which would only suggest that this so called agency are just amateurs sitting in some armchair in faraway Washington D.C making wild unresearched guesses? Hmmn.

you don't know how figures are breakdown to make up this report. if you want an insight into it let me know

afroniger:
Without a properly conducted and credible census, all anyone can do is guesstimate.

They probably use the heat signature from space satellite to focus on areas and let the AI calculate, that could be the possible means, but then it will be foolish and outright nonsense to think people at specific locations must be from that tribe.

Just cooked up statistics to meet their desires. They probably wanna change the political dynamics this time.

If we have more igbos than Yorubas, then there must be a decision the stats for some purposes unconnected with political manipulation in the next few decades.

It will be interesting.