Committee members are welcome to the Nairaland Nigerian Footballers Award, 2018, Committee thread.

The clear vision and responsibilities are as spelt out by the house in the Super Eagles thread.

Forgiveness, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels, Joebie, Komekn, Tbaba1234 let's me here please.

COMMENTS HERE ARE STRICTLY FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

Honorable modes: Mind4lyfe and Honeric01 please help us in deleting any comments from any moniker that doesn't belong to the committee. We don't need Intruders and distractors. Thank you Sirs.

Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

quote author=komekn post=73198119]

I would like two other awards.

1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)

2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)

There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.

I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.

BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this.[/quote]

For (1) There is already an award for best home based player. "Unrecognized but highest potential" this will definitely be highly controversial and too open ended.
For (2) There is a Super Eagles player award already and just like in (1) the "unrecognized and top quality" tag is too open ended and highly controversial.

quote author=TheSuperNerd post=73197779] I am with Joebie on waiting for Chriskels to break the tie as he is also part of the Committee. I trust he will show up whenever he can and soon before the year runs out.


Meanwhile, I suggest a few more categories like:


- Super Eagles Top scorer of the year (That should be distinct from Best Attacker/Best Forward award because in best attacker we look at an attacker's showing across the entire year and not just in a game or two. And sometimes, such player may not be top scorer. We need to recognise the top scorer too because it is not easy putting the ball in the back of the net).


- Super Eagles Top Assists leader of the year (We must recognise the player or players involved the most in laying/putting the ball on a platter for others to score).


- Super Falcons Goal of the year (We cannot restrict this award to the men alone. The ladies do score worldies too. They score goals or don't they?)

- Super Eagles most improved player of 2018 (This is to reward quantum leaps in improvements of certain talents in the team over the course of the year).


- Now the young player of the year is for players 21yrs and under... But what of the Super Eagles best new entrant of the year? Just saying. (modified: I can see that you added it in Number 3... Well done!).

Okay, so these are the few additions I think should be considered too. If I remember any other relevant catergory, I will try bring it up on time. Shalom...

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Icon4s:
Committee members are welcome to the Nairaland Nigerian Foollers Award, 2018, Committee thread.

The the clear vision and responsibilities are as spelt out by the house in the Super Eagles thread.

Forgiveness, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels, Joebie, Komekn, Tbaba1234 let's me here please.

COMMENTS HERE ARE STRICTLY FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

Honorable modes: Mind4lyfe and Honeric01 please help us in deleting any comments from any moniker that doesn't belong to the committee. We don't need Intruders and distractors. Thank you Sirs.

No wahala.

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Icon4s:
quote author=komekn post=73198119]

I would like two other awards.

1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)

2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)

There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.

I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.

BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this.

Are the categories below the same, the only difference being the base of the player? If yes, I would like to suggest we name both awards identically. How about we rather say, Most Underrated Top Quality Player (Home Based) , and the same for FB?

Icon4s:
quote author=komekn post=73198119]

I would like two other awards.

1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)

2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)

There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.

I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.

BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this.

I also want to add, in future, Chriskels please try to be very clear in your pick. If you say if we can’t do it in the regular thread, we should create a new thread, you didn’t really give an opinion. Tbaba was very clear as to which he preferred even though he said he would accept whatever decision.

Another suggestion. Instead of Okocha and Enyeama why not limit the honor to players that are no more. Say Okwaraji and Agbonavbare respectfully?

Icon4s:
Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

I think in best attacker the number of goals will also be factored in. Are we not looking at their performances for both club and country? I think if we create seperate awards like you are suggesting there will be a danger of duplication like you implied indirectly.

I support the idea of a separate category for Assist King.

I want to understand something here. are these awards meant for only Super Eagles and Super Falcons players?

TheSuperNerd:
I am with Joebie on waiting for Chriskels to break the tie as he is also part of the Committee. I trust he will show up whenever he can and soon before the year runs out.


Meanwhile, I suggest a few more categories like:


- Super Eagles Top scorer of the year (That should be distinct from Best Attacker/Best Forward award because in best attacker we look at an attacker's showing across the entire year and not just in a game or two. And sometimes, such player may not be top scorer. We need to recognise the top scorer too because it is not easy putting the ball in the back of the net).


- Super Eagles Top Assists leader of the year (We must recognise the player or players involved the most in laying/putting the ball on a platter for others to score).


- Super Falcons Goal of the year (We cannot restrict this award to the men alone. The ladies do score worldies too. They score goals or don't they?)

- Super Eagles most improved player of 2018 (This is to reward quantum leaps in improvements of certain talents in the team over the course of the year).


- Now the young player of the year is for players 21yrs and under... But what of the Super Eagles best new entrant of the year? Just saying. (modified: I can see that you added it in Number 3... Well done!).

Okay, so these are the few additions I think should be considered too. If I remember any other relevant catergory, I will try bring it up on time. Shalom...

Best Foreign Player of Nigerian descent (Reuben Agboola Award)
This category should be restricted to those whose international careers are still not sealed.

Modified
Also, Top Mention for SE Call-up Award
Restricted to Nigerian players that do not require an application for change of allegiance.

Also Best Player in the Lower Divisions. Only open to uncapped players.

These are just suggestions. Maybe we can limit the number of categories to 15 or so.

Icon4s:
Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

Yes definitely. In Best attacker, the number of goals will also be factored in both doubt.
The main reason I suggest a separate distinct award in Top scorer of the year award is to recognise two kinds of attackers for any given year.
One attacker may only be banging in the goals but another may be involved in both assists and goals in a balanced manner and be more impactful in all round plays. It is possible that one can cart away both awards shaa and that is also why I say "sometimes" the best attacker may not even be the top scorer.

In all, it is left for us to decide shaa.



Are these awards meant only for Super Eagles and Super Falcons players? Well, the award catgeories seem to suggest so... But I see what you are driving at. Maybe we need to create a special category or two special categories tagged:

- Best Uncapped Nigerian Player in Europe.

- Best/Most impressive Foreign-born Naija talent/player in Europe.

We could also create another award for the home based called something like...

- Best/most impressive player on the local scene.


What do y'all think?

Joebie:
I think in best attacker the number of goals will also be factored in. Are we not looking at their performances for both club and country? I think if we create seperate awards like you are suggesting there will be a danger of duplication like you implied indirectly.

I support the idea of a separate category for Assist King.

I want to understand something here. are these awards meant for only Super Eagles and Super Falcons players?

Well I wasn’t really sure, which is why I asked. We should name the categories appropriately

Modified .

I have already made some suggestions. So let’s marry our ideas

TheSuperNerd:
Yes definitely. In Best attacker, the number of goals will also be factored in both doubt.
The main reason I suggest a separate distinct award in Top scorer of the year award is to recognise two kinds of attackers for any given year.
One attacker may only be banging in the goals but another may be involved in both assists and goals in a balanced manner and be more impactful in all round plays. It is possible that one can cart away both awards shaa and that is also why I say "sometimes" the best attacker may not even be the top scorer.

In all, it is left for us to decide shaa.



Are these awards meant only for Super Eagles and Super Falcons players? Well, the award catgeories seem to suggest so... But I see what you are driving at. Maybe we need to create a special category or two special categories tagged:

- Best Uncapped Nigerian Player in Europe.

- Best/Most impressive Foreign-born Naija talent/player in Europe.

We could also create another award for the home based called something like...

- Best/most impressive player on the local scene.


What do y'all think?

Icon4s:
Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

I think, this is a decent list.

Maybe a most improved player category.

This is just a suggestion for modification.
1. Super Eagles Player of the Year
2. NPFL player of the Year
3. Best Super Eagles New Inclusion (2018)
— Open to the new invites in 2018
4. SE Keeper of the Year (Wilfred Agbonavbare Award)
5. SE Defender of the Year (Stephen Keshi award)
6. SE Midfielder of the Year (Samuel Okwaraji award)
7. SE Forward of the Year
— For overall contribution. wingers inclusive
Now we can have a Top Scorer Award (Rashidi Yekini) seperately
8. SE Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

Icon4s:
Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

Icon4s:
quote author=komekn post=73198119]

I would like two other awards.

1. Most unrecognised but highest potential top player (home based)

2. Most unrecognised but highest top quality potential (Foreign based)

There is great satisfaction to bring to the limelight top quality players who have never been noticed.

I truly believe that there must be gems in the local league with great potential. But considering our cultural dynamics across all sectors. Godfatherism, inducement, tribalism, etc we never get to hear of them.

BascoVanVeli I'm sure will attest to this.

For (1) There is already an award for best home based player. "Unrecognized but highest potential" this will definitely be highly controversial and too open ended.
For (2) There is a Super Eagles player award already and just like in (1) the "unrecognized and top quality" tag is too open ended and highly controversial.

For (1) There is already an award for best home based player. "Unrecognized but highest potential" this will definitely be highly controversial and too open ended.
For (2) There is a Super Eagles player award already and just like in (1) the "unrecognized and top quality" tag is too open ended and highly controversial.

Icon4s:
quote author=TheSuperNerd post=73197779] I am with Joebie on waiting for Chriskels to break the tie as he is also part of the Committee. I trust he will show up whenever he can and soon before the year runs out.


Meanwhile, I suggest a few more categories like:


- Super Eagles Top scorer of the year (That should be distinct from Best Attacker/Best Forward award because in best attacker we look at an attacker's showing across the entire year and not just in a game or two. And sometimes, such player may not be top scorer. We need to recognise the top scorer too because it is not easy putting the ball in the back of the net).


- Super Eagles Top Assists leader of the year (We must recognise the player or players involved the most in laying/putting the ball on a platter for others to score).


- Super Falcons Goal of the year (We cannot restrict this award to the men alone. The ladies do score worldies too. They score goals or don't they?)

- Super Eagles most improved player of 2018 (This is to reward quantum leaps in improvements of certain talents in the team over the course of the year).


- Now the young player of the year is for players 21yrs and under... But what of the Super Eagles best new entrant of the year? Just saying. (modified: I can see that you added it in Number 3... Well done!).

Okay, so these are the few additions I think should be considered too. If I remember any other relevant catergory, I will try bring it up on time. Shalom...

1. Having separate awards for best Attacker and highest goals scorer or highest assists will only introduce ambiguity. Remember we are only naming nominees for the house to vote their choices. Now, Ighalo is the highest goal scorer we do not need the house to vote to decide that. But was Ighalo the best Attacker for the year. This is where players with highest assists and goals scoring threats come in and of course number of goals scored is a vital point. We present the 3 nominees for one category which I suggest is "Best Attacking player" and let the house vote their choices.

2. On Super Falcons goal of the year, you have a point but I don't think that may be necessary. Even FIFA has only one goal of the year award which they select from Male football.

3. Super Eagles most improved player. Yes, I actually errornously omitted it. It should be part of it.

Joebie:
Another suggestion. Instead of Okocha and Enyeama why not limit the honor to players that are no more. Say Okwaraji and Agbonavbare respectfully?

A vital point, the entire Committee will have to conclude on that

Joebie:
I think in best attacker the number of goals will also be factored in. Are we not looking at their performances for both club and country? I think if we create seperate awards like you are suggesting there will be a danger of duplication like you implied indirectly.

I support the idea of a separate category for Assist King.

I want to understand something here. are these awards meant for only Super Eagles and Super Falcons players?

Emm... introducing club performances will only introduce controversies. We are giving awards for performances in the GWG. It makes it easier for the committee to come up with nominees and also makes it less ambiguous for house members to vote.

On your last paragraph . This is the Nigerian Footballers Awards. Award for performance in the GWG.

Alright. It wasn’t clear to me initially.

Icon4s:


Emm... introducing club performances will only introduce controversies. We are giving awards for performances in the GWG. It makes it easier for the committee to come up with nominees and also makes it less ambiguous for house members to vote.

On your last paragraph . This is the Nigerian Footballers Awards. Award for performance in the GWG.

Joebie:
Best Foreign Player of Nigerian descent (Reuben Agboola Award)
This category should be restricted to those whose international careers are still not sealed.

Modified
Also, Top Mention for SE Call-up Award
Restricted to Nigerian players that do not require an application for change of allegiance.

Also Best Player in the Lower Divisions. Only open to uncapped players.

These are just suggestions. Maybe we can limit the number of categories to 15 or so.

These Awards should be restricted to Nigerians who have doned the Green White Green. Being Foreign born or Nigerian born should not be an issue here. We cannot be giving Awards to players who have not declared for Nigeria or whose nationality switch has not been concluded.

We only have a separate award for the Best Home Based Super Eagles players because they have their separate team which is the CHAN team and also a separate competition and as said earlier it for players who have worn the GWG and they have done so.

So I guess no Super Falcons category then? Out thread is devoted to SE actually.

Icon4s:


1. Having separate awards for best Attacker and highest goals scorer or highest assists will only introduce ambiguity. Remember we are only naming nominees for the house to vote their choices. Now, Ighalo is the highest goal scorer we do not need the house to vote to decide that. But was Ighalo the best Attacker for the year. This is where players with highest assists and goals scoring threats come in and of course number of goals scored is a vital point. We present the 3 nominees for one category which I suggest is "Best Attacking player" and let the house vote their choices.

2. On Super Falcons goal of the year, you have a point but I don't think that may be necessary. Even FIFA has only one goal of the year award which they select from Male football.

3. Super Eagles most improved player. Yes, I actually errornously omitted it. It should be part of it.

You already clearified that. You should have just ignored this post.

Icon4s:


These Awards should be restricted to Nigerians who have doned the Green White Green. Being Foreign born or Nigerian born should not be an issue here. We cannot be giving Awards to players who have not declared for Nigeria or whose nationality switch has not been concluded.

We only have a separate award for the Best Home Based Super Eagles players because they have their separate team which is the CHAN team and also a separate competition and as said earlier it for players who have worn the GWG and they have done so.

Sir Icon4s have u posted the link to this thread on our mother thread, for transparency sake?

Joebie:
So I guess no Super Falcons category then? Out thread is devoted to SE actually.

No, there is an award for Super Falcons player of the year. But not necessary we have Super Falcons goal of the year.

Joebie:
You already clearified that. You should have just ignored this post.

Ok, sorry about that

Joebie:
Sir Icon4s have u posted the link to this thread on our mother thread, for transparency sake?

Ok, will do that right away.

tbaba1234:

I think, this is a decent list.
Maybe a most improved player category.

Noted

ChrisKels and Forgiveness, we await your contributions on the list of awards. Thanks.

Icon4s:


A vital point, the entire Committee will have to conclude on that

Agbonivbare's reputation as an Eagle that brought him the name Agbonivbasket, makes that idea dead on arrival

Icon4s:
Next, the list of award Categories. So as not to prolong matters, I have here a list of categories. Members of committee can also add theirs. But we should try not to make the list too long so as not to make voting difficult or combasome for people. Adjustments can also be made on the list below:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year
2. Nigerian Home based player of the Year
3. Most impactful New Inclusion (2018)
4. Best Goalkeeper (Vincent Enyeama award)
5. Best Defender (Stephen Keshi award)
6. Best Midfielder (Jay-jay Okocha award)
7. Best Attacker (Rashidi Yekini award)
8. Young player of the year (for players 21yrs and less)
9. Super Falcons player of the year
10. Super Eagles Goal of the year.

cc: Tbaba1234, Forgiveness, Komekn, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels and Joebie

To me, the list is OK, adding more might make it cumbersome and unattractive

Maybe we should have an alternative award after this whole process. TheSuperNerd , I believe you will second this. Anybody else?