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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 12:12pm On Oct 21, 2018
Obedience to God Alone - Obedience to Qur'an Alone

The Lord's medium of instructing man are the Word of God; the Qur'an in Islam. The Qur'an is the revelation from God, and it is the only revelation from God to Muhammad. This nullifies other secondary text or speech, e.g Hadith, espoused as additional revelation from God. For instance;

Qur'an 45:6 These are the revelations of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what Hadith after Allah and His verses will they believe?

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 12:14pm On Oct 21, 2018
Qur'an hereby declares itself as the revelation of God recited to the messenger, then proceeds with a rhetorical question that dismisses any other Hadith/speech or text as unworthy of a monotheist's belief.

Unfortunately, these clear verse fell on deaf ears and many Muslims continue to believe in other hadith and texts after believing the Qur'an. And thus, we have Muslims recite silently or excessively loud with speakers in their salat, despite Qur'anic instructions to recite just audibly.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 12:23pm On Oct 21, 2018
Also, recall the Qur'an recommending Muslims to be steadfast in salat, but in compliance with hadith, Muslim women abstain from salat several days monthly during their menstrual bleeding.

These compliance with hadith instructions unconfirmed by the Qur'an violate the Qur'an and confers Muhammad the status of legislator in Islam. This is tantamount to treating Muhammad as partner with God. Anti-Monotheism.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:22am On Oct 25, 2018
Are Hadith Divine Revelations From God?

No, as specified by Qur'an 45:6, divine revelations are collectively known as the Qur'an. If it is not in the Qur'an, it is not divine revelation to Muhammad. Even complementing the Qur'anic verses on this are hadith like this; Bulugh al-Maram » Book of Crimes/Retaliation. Hadith 1204:

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:23am On Oct 25, 2018
Abu Juhaifah (RAA) narrated, ‘I asked 'Ali:‘Do you have any other Divine Revelation besides what is in the Qur’an? ’Ali said, ‘No. We have nothing besides the Qur’an except the gift of understanding the Qur’an, which Allah gives a man, besides what is written in this manuscript;

I said, ‘What is in this manuscript?’ ‘Ali said, ‘The regulations of Diyah (Blood money), the ransom for captives and the ruling that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas for killing a disbeliever.’ Related by Al-Bukhari.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:24am On Oct 25, 2018
Here we learn two things; First, aside the Qur'anic verses, Muhammad received no other revelation from God. This renders ahadith completely illegitimate.

Secondly, the understanding of the Qur'an does not necessarily come from Muhammad, but is granted to the reader by God. With or without hadith of Muhammad, Qur'an is comprehensible. This renders ahadith irrelevant for Qur'anic study.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by Empiree: 9:30pm On Oct 25, 2018
usermane:


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Your number one problem is, why did you quote hadith you dont believe in the first place?. You quoted the hadith to indicate its validity because it suits your purpose?.


So how about this hadith?


Miqdam ibn Ma’di reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, I have been given the Quran and something along with it,...."


But if you wanna say that hadith authenticity is not to the level of Quran, that makes sense than rubbishing entire hadith as you pointed up there.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 4:29pm On Oct 31, 2018
Are Hadith Divine Wisdom(Hikma) granted to Muhammad?

No. The only unique grant to Muhammad is the Book. Wisdom or Hikma is bestowed upon any man, prophet or not prophet. Here is Qur'anic evidence;

Qur'an 2:269 He grants wisdom to whom He chooses, and whoever is granted wisdom, has been given much good. Only those with intelligence will take heed.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 4:30pm On Oct 31, 2018
Hadith supports this position as well;

Sunan Ibn Majah >> The Book of the Sunnah
It was narrated that Ibn Abbas said:
"The messenger of God embraced me and said: 'Oh God, teach him the wisdom and interpretation of the Book.'"

The Ahadith are exclusively from Muhammad. For Hikma/Wisdom to be hadith, it has to be exclusively bestowed on prophet, not by just anyone. But this is not the case, in fact according to hadith, even poetry, works of poets contain hikma/wisdom.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 4:32pm On Oct 31, 2018
Sunan Ibn Majah >> The Chapter on Etiquette
Narrated Ibn Abbas that the prophet said; "In some poetry, there is wisdom."

There is thus proof that the hikma/wisdom granted to the prophet is wisdom granted to any other man, not the capacity to stipulate religious laws, make religious recommendations and foretell future events not revealed in Qur'an.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 3:08pm On Nov 25, 2018
Did Muhammad explain/clarify the Qur'an?

The Qur'an inform Muhammad that his role is to recite and follow the Qur'an, while the clarification lies with the Lord.

Qur'an 75:16-19
Do not move your tongue with it to make haste. It is for Us to collect it and recite it. So when We recite it, you shall follow its recitation. Then it is for Us to clarify it.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 3:09pm On Nov 25, 2018
Qur'an 16:44 is often cited as proof that clarification of Qur'an constitute Muhammad's role.

In light of the aforementioned verses, a more adequate interpretation of this verse is that Muhammad clarifies the Qur'an, but he does so by reciting the verses that clarify other verses in the Qur'an that might have seem unclear to the people.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:02am On Dec 01, 2018
More Verses Implying the Qur'an is Clear & Self-Explanatory

6:46: Say, "What if GOD took away your hearing and your eyesight, and sealed your minds; which god, other than GOD, can restore these for you?" Note how we explain the revelations, and note how they still deviate!

6:114: "Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you this book sufficiently detailed?" Those to whom We have given the book know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:03am On Dec 01, 2018
7:52: We have brought them a book which We have detailed with knowledge; a guide and a mercy to those who believe.

10:37: This Quran could not have been produced without God, but it is to authenticate what is already present, and to provide detail to the book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:04am On Dec 01, 2018
12:111: It(Qur'an) is not a hadith that was invented, but an authentication of what is already present, a detailing of all things, and a guidance and mercy to a people who believe.

16:89: We have sent down to you the book as a clarification for all things, a guide, mercy and good tidings for those who have peacefully surrendered

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:04am On Dec 01, 2018
17:12: We rendered the night and the day two signs. We made the night dark, and the day lighted, that you may seek provisions from your Lord therein. This also establishes for you a timing system, and the means of calculation. We thus explain everything in detail.

26:2 These are verses of the Book, clear.

41:3 A Book whose verses are made detailed - an Arabic revelation for a people who know.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:15am On Dec 29, 2018
Our Guide is Qur'an; Not Muhammad

Qur'an 33:21 and 68:4 have been misinterpreted to define Muhammad's words and deeds as moral guide for Muslims. But the Qur'an seldom mention Muhammad, his words and acts are supposedly documented by hadith collectors.

So, if a monotheist reject hadith because they are not divine, can ahadith be acceptable because they contain Muhammad's words and acts? To decide, we now examine relevant hadith on Muhammad's life.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:15am On Dec 29, 2018
Muhammad's formula to eradicate poverty;

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Hajj:

'Perform Hajj and 'Umrah consecutively; for they remove poverty and sin as the bellows removes impurity from iron.'''

Yet, Muhammad & his family lived in poverty.

Sunan Ibn Majah » Book of Zuhd:

[1]. “I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say several times: ‘By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, the family of Muhammad does not have a Sa’ of food grains or a Sa’ of dates.’ And at that time he had nine wives.”

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:17am On Dec 29, 2018
Sunan Ibn Majah » Book of Zuhd:

[2]. Aishah said:
“There would come a month when no smoke was seen in any of the households of the family of Muhammad (ﷺ). I said: "What did you eat?" She said: "The two black ones - dates and water." But we had neighbors among the Ansar, sincere neighbors, who had domestic sheep, and they used to send some of their milk to us. (One of the narrators) Muhammad said: "And they were nine households."

[3]. “I heard ‘Umar bin Khattab say: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) writhing with hunger during the day, and he could not even find the worst of dates with which to fill his stomach.’”

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:18am On Dec 29, 2018
Although Muhammad supposedly taught that the obligation of a husband to his wife is to feed her, Muhammad himself failed to fulfill this obligation as a husband, according to hadith books. What an irony.

Now, how exemplary is the character of a man who can't even provide the basic needs of his family? How sincere is a man who ushers a special formula to overcome poverty, yet live in abject poverty? Where is the justification in marrying so many women, if he cannot even feed himself?

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:19am On Dec 29, 2018
Muhammad, pedophile?

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Marriage:

"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."

What kind of role model is a man that harbours sexual feelings for a 6 years old kid that still play with dolls, what kind of man exposes his genitals to a 9 years old?

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:21am On Dec 29, 2018
Muhammad, on mourning death?

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Divorce:

"It is not permissible for a woman to mourn for anyone who dies for more than three days, except for her husband."

This is inconsiderate, insensitive of a human that is to be exemplary for mankind. A woman can't mourn the loss of her parents, friend or child beyond 3 days?

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:22am On Dec 29, 2018
Muhammad, a flawed polygamist?

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Marriage:

'Aishah said: "The Messenger of Allah married me in Shawwal and my marriage was consummated in Shawwal and which of his wives was more beloved to him than me?"

This is tactless, a polygamist should never give the impression that one wife is more beloved to him than another.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 8:23am On Dec 29, 2018
Apparently, Muhammad from the traditional Islamic sources is not a role model for any sane human being.

A role model should be consistently modest, hygenic, considerate, compassionate and competent family man. If Muhammad was indeed a role model for Man, then the hadith books fail to portray him accurately. So, we're left with the Qur'an to deduce Muhammad's words & acts.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by abdulazeez1002(m): 11:40am On Dec 29, 2018
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is but a revelation revealed” [an-Najm 53:3-4].

Allah, may He be exalted, has enjoined upon the believers complete submission to the words of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and his hadith and rulings, to the extent that He, may He be glorified, swore by His divine self that whoever hears the words of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), then rejects them and does not accept them, has nothing to do with faith at all. He, may He be glorified and exalted, said (interpretation of the meaning)

“But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission” [an-Nisa’ 4:65].


Al-Hasan ibn ‘Ali al-Barbahaari said:
If you hear a man casting aspersions upon a hadith or denying a hadith, or giving precedence to something else over a hadith, then suspect his commitment to Islam, for he is undoubtedly following whims and desires and innovation.

If you hear a man, when you quote a hadith, showing no interest in it on the basis that he only wants to hear quotations from the Qur’an, you should not doubt that he is a man who is following the path of the heretics, so get up and leave him, and bid him farewell. End quote. Sharh as-Sunnah (113-119)
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 6:11am On Jan 05, 2019
Muhammad's legislation: The Messenger Vs The Chief

Muhammad's legislation were of two categories, the divine and the political. Ignorance among Muslims lead them to assume all the legislation were divine and thus, everlasting.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 6:12am On Jan 05, 2019
The messenger's legislation:

It's been proven that Muhammad on his own cannot legislate in Islam outside Qur'an. For instance;

“The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about ghee, cheese and wild donkeys. He said: ‘What is lawful is that which Allah has permitted, in His Book and what is unlawful is that which Allah has forbidden in His Book. What He remained silent about is what is pardoned.’”
Sunan Ibn Majah » Chapters on Food

Muhammad as the messenger legislate what the Qur'an does. No more than Qur'an, no less.

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 6:13am On Jan 05, 2019
The chief's legislation:

As the chief of an heterogeneous religious and tribal community, Muhammad was duty bound to legislate on political and social affairs outside the Qur'an.

The Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) prohibited the eating of every beast of prey with fang, and every bird with a talon.
Sunan Abi Dawud » Book of Foods

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 6:14am On Jan 05, 2019
Provided these were indeed the true words of Muhammad, such legislation have nothing to do with Islam and there is no sin on Muslims who disregard them after Muhammad or outside Muhammad's political domain.

After all, the chief's legislation were fallible unlike the messenger's. As Muhammad was limited by the common knowledge and situation of his era or region, he's incapable of legislating in Islam, a religion transcending his era and region. This limitation may be grasped from the hadith below;

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Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 6:15am On Jan 05, 2019
"I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'I wanted to forbid intercourse with a nursing mother, but then (I saw that) the Persians and the Romans do this, and it does not kill their children.'
Sunan Ibn Majah » The Chapters on Marriage

Muhammad had no ability to discern what is Islamically binding. His legislations outside Qur'an were not divine but limited by knowlege, culture and condition of his time. To religiously abide by such legislations today will be polytheistic.
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:05am On Jan 12, 2019
Salat, Fasting, Zakat & Hajj according to God Alone.

The challenge a Muslim might face upon turning to God alone is the procedure for observing religious rites.

Hajj - Visit the holy site, engaging in remembrance & service to God. Relevant conditions spelt out in Qur'an.
Essential reading on hajj;
Hajj - A Qur'anic Adaptation
Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by usermane(m): 10:05am On Jan 12, 2019
Fasting
Procedures well stipulated in Qur'an. See relevant articles.
Fasting - A Qur'anic Adaptation

Zakat
Spending out of one's blessings - wealth, health, skill and knowledge for free. Relevant articles.
Zakat - A Qur'anic Adaptation

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