maternal:


Single mother with 2 kids and 3k USD under her name. She wouldn't qualify under any program to move to another develop country, talk less have the funds. Furthermore, these countries share information and her over-stay in the U.S would definitely be known. If she leaves America, she'll most likely never step foot in another developed nation again .

Mancala:
OP, I'm not trying to be nosy or all up in your business, only trying to give you practical advice to get you prepared for the path you have decided to tread. .....I asked this question in my last post on your thread but you did not respond. Where is the father of your kids? What is your current relationship with him? Married? Divorced? If so, do you have divorce paper work ? Your plan, as mentioned previously, is to explore the possibility of legalizing your stay in the short term. The only option as mentioned by many posters is through marriage to a U.S. citizen. Do not wait until the opportunity presents itself before you sort out these technicalities. It will only make it more difficult. Get your ducks in a row and hope/ work for the best. Get consent for the kids to be with you. If possible, get their father prepared to give them up to be adopted by a future spouse. You may be blessed with good fortune very quickly. I have seen it happen before! Be prepared to walk your chosen path.

justwise:


Some Nigerians are something else honestly, who is that irresponsible/responsible father that will give up 2kids just for a foreign passport?

Why do we value material things far more than human dignity and decency?

justwise:


Some Nigerians are something else honestly, who is that irresponsible/responsible father that will give up 2kids just for a foreign passport?

Why do we value material things far more than human dignity and decency?

dustydee:

Please don't. There are many people, legal residents of advanced countries, that have moved back to Nigeria and loving it. People are different and react differently in certain situations. I also know many people in Nigeria with the skills and means to migrate to the west but have chosen to remain.

justwise:


Some Nigerians are something else honestly, who is that irresponsible/responsible father that will give up 2kids just for a foreign passport?

Why do we value material things far more than human dignity and decency?

Babyvet:


Majority with visiting visa? Please provide links before making such blanket statement. In what they did legalize their stay? Her options to legalization in this country are very limited since has overstayed for 4 years. Even the op has mentioned that herself. Please stop with this village talk nonsense.

Beautyaddy:


Beats me too.

I was shocked too at such a suggestion.

On the other hand, we shouldn't be surprised at what some very desperate people can result to.

Babyvet:


No its not worth it. Read this article about who immigrated from South Korea as child with parents to America legally via work sponsorship. The work sponsorship did not pan out well and eventually they all lost their status. His parents returned to South Korea while eventually he became daca beneficiary. Due to all the limitations of daca and bunch of other issues, he moved to Canada as a legal immigrant.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2018/02/9e349338dd61-feature-korean-daca-recipient-saw-life-uprooted-in-move-to-canada.html

Bishopp007:

Oga calm down because you are the one talking nonsense. Since we are no longer qualify for visa lottery, the options of coming to stay legally in US has been limited. How many expatriates do we have from naija coming to US with working visa? Even students don't want to go back at the expiration of their Visa. I am not here to argue with anyone but look at the rate at which people are applying for visiting visa, do you think all of them want to come to US just for show. I made those comments based on my experience and interactions with people so far here in US.

Mancala:


Ding, ding, ding. And we have a winner! Sometimes, simply saying your best option is to go home, as I said in my very first post on this thread may not resonate well. I have laid out the practical steps she will need to undertake to go down the path of staying and trying to legalize her stay based on the only available option today. Perhaps the reality may set in on seeing these drastic steps. Or perhaps maybe it's something the kids father and herself are willing to go through with. I will not present any opinions on the rationality of going through with this, I know not from whence they came. The game is afoot!

justwise:


..and why should the option of giving up 2kids should be considered in the first place? Having a paper/passport does not mean that one will live happily ever and be successfully. You people post here as if having a foreign paper/passport is that big of an achievement, its bloody no big deal.

walexyll:

You are welcome home uncle. I also reside in Elebu. I have been a silent follower of your posts and I admire your perspective to life. I hope we meet before you leave.
Sorry for derailing OP

justwise:


..and why should the option of giving up 2kids should be considered in the first place? Having a paper/passport does not mean that one will live happily ever and be successfully. You people post here as if having a foreign paper/passport is that big of an achievement, its bloody no big deal.

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status.

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

justwise:


..and why should the option of giving up 2kids should be considered in the first place? Having a paper/passport does not mean that one will live happily ever and be successfully. You people post here as if having a foreign paper/passport is that big of an achievement, its bloody no big deal.

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status .

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status.

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

I respectfully declare that some of the questions she ignored are probably more important than the trivial questions she has answered. Where is the father of the kids? Silence on this speaks volumes to me. Does she have consent to keep the kids with her in a foreign country, perhaps away from him? If divorced, where is the divorce decree/evidence. She may choose to ignore these now, but guess what? These will be asked at an adjustment of status interview so she better be prepared! Some may be advising from their village in Nigeria with no inkling of what is real. On the other hand, some have more than 25 years living and working in the U.S. and have seen many instances like this. If this is the path she has chosen, she needs to be prepared to walk it!

TheCongo2:


She hasn't tried the Canadian route
I guess she is afraid to embrace the unknown
It isn't easy to leave a familiar territory for an unfamiliar one.
It may require a lot of courage. And once in Canada she will be asking herself why she had spent so much time in the US without papers.
"If I knew then what I know" has been a familiar tune of many people who had crossed from US to Canada.

OP, as I do understand the situation, the only option to fix your status in the US is via marriage.

On the other end, should you decide to move to Canada , you may end up becoming a Canadian resident through the following routes:

1- Refugee Status

2- If the refugee route fail, you can appeal the decision.

3- You can apply for Canadian residence through Humanitarian and compassionate ground any time even when waiting on your refugee application. The fact that you have 2 kids living with you will help in this process as the Canadian government will take into account the best interest of your kids. Been involved in the community such as a church helps as well.

4- If the appeal of your refugee application fails, you have one more chance via a process called "pre-removal risk assessment" . In the process you have a chance to explain to the Canadian government in writing why you think they shouldn't send you back to Nigeria. Once again, the Canadian government takes the best interest of the children very seriously. The fact you have 2 kids will increase your chances

5. You can get married.

On a different note, should you decide to cross into Canada, dont worry about your living arrangement in Canada given that you and the kids will be provided with free room and board by the Canadian government.


Good luck

TheCongo2:


She hasn't tried the Canadian route
I guess she is afraid to embrace the unknown
It isn't easy to leave a familiar territory for an unfamiliar one.
It may require a lot of courage. And once in Canada she will be asking herself why she had spent so much time in the US without papers.
"If I knew then what I know" has been a familiar tune of many people who had crossed from US to Canada.

OP, as I do understand the situation, the only option to fix your status in the US is via marriage.

On the other end, should you decide to move to Canada , you may end up becoming a Canadian resident through the following routes:

1- Refugee Status

2- If the refugee route fail, you can appeal the decision.

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status.

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

Babyvet:


exactly, she has two children to care for, she has to be careful with her movement. She has not mentioned the kids father. Having a foreign passport is a big achievement for Nigerians , that sometimes that all they ever achieve. I'm not going to deny the privileges having a foreign passport brings, but one should not kill themselves or give up their children for it.

claremont:


The OP isn't a refugee. A lot of Africans have abused this ''refugee route'' by claiming to be refugees when they are not. This has ruined the chances of genuine refugees fleeing war torn countries. If the OP chooses to get married in the US for papers, she will most likely end up in an abusive relationship because whoever she is marrying will know he is doing her a massive favour. The best option is for her to save her earnings and return home. She says she has savings of $3000, that's almost N1 million and should be enough to tide her over for a few months whilst she gets settled in Nigeria.

Mancala:


In the practical sense of things, has the father not technically given up these children? They are here illegally in the U.S. along with all the attendant risks. The mother is trying to figure things out on her own without a single mention of their Dad. Fathering a child is not the same as being a father to them. If the situation is as I have stated above, signing away his rights is rather a moot point. He has already done so in all intent and purpose. Justwise and yourself are perhaps being sentimental in this regard, no?

TheCongo2:


Did she say she wasn't a refugee or you are assuming she isn't a refugee.
She hasn't been answering questions about the father of her kids. How do you know if he is the reason she had fled with the kids?
Don't you know that abused women can apply for refugee status in Canada?
Anyway, it is up to the refugee board in Canada to determine if op is a refugee

TheCongo2:


I completely disagree with the bolded.

maternal:


I know a few people who got deported in Canada for X reason, tried to get visa in another develop country and it came up. That was the reason for their visa denial. Cpic info is shared by police agencies in Canada and US and immigration/customs board also use it.

claremont:


The OP isn't a refugee. A lot of Africans have abused this ''refugee route'' by claiming to be refugees when they are not. This has ruined the chances of genuine refugees fleeing war torn countries. If the OP chooses to get married in the US for papers, she will most likely end up in an abusive relationship because whoever she is marrying will know he is doing her a massive favour. The best option is for her to save her earnings and return home. She says she has savings of $3000, that's almost N1 million and should be enough to tide her over for a few months whilst she gets settled in Nigeria.

TheCongo2:


Did she say she wasn't a refugee or you are assuming she isn't a refugee.
She hasn't been answering questions about the father of her kids. How do you know if he is the reason she had fled with the kids?
Don't you know that abused women can apply for refugee status in Canada?
Anyway, it is up to the refugee board in Canada to determine if op is a refugee

claremont:


I will do some research on this as I'm not conversant with the Canadian asylum system. However, I don't think it's a given that an illegal immigrant with kids can simply cross to border into Canada and be granted asylum. If the illegal immigrant is fleeing from abuse, it then begs the question as to why asylum hasn't been requested for in the US.