Originakalokalo:


Nerve agent from a babalawo?

Don't dare devils and demons.... They are not merciful.


Demons are real. Supernatural powers are real.

God exits.

Go to a genuine dibia, or a spiritual guru and ask him if there is God Almighty.

These spiritualists will never say there is no God.

tintingz:
Native doctors, babalawo indulge in classical science, tricks. They mix herbs, do magic tricks and present it to ignorant people living in rural area, semi-develop area.

Imagine a medical doctor giving you aspirin and associates it works to spirits in the cosmos.

Originakalokalo:


My brother, the facts are everywhere....

His works are incredible.

Light traveling at 300million metres per second from a star takes 100years or more to reach the Earth...

Can you image such distance?

The sun is very huge, 10,000 of the earth will sit in the sun conveniently. yet, it is a dot compare to some planets....

I have a new title for the most high God....

He is the Most insulted God. Yet, The most powerful being in all the heavens and the earth....

With all this powers, he is the most merciful...

That is why the most powerful God can still be the most insulted.... and yet,..

He will still be hoping, begging, and waiting for the repentance of man....

I have never seen this kind of God before...

If you want, I can show you where he begs.

Glory to the ancient of days.....He is stitted between dreadful cherubims,

High and exalted... He is in a glory that eyes cannot behold....(no wonder he owns the sun)

The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords....

He is charge of the affairs of men and spirits.....

He set their rules....

His faithfulness is ever sure... .

Ever merciful...

He brings rain and sun on murderes of Infants, children and the old...

Glory, Honour, Power, Majesty, Dominon, Praise be to our God....

Now and forevermore.


Amen.

Originakalokalo:



What of marks appearing on a body when the person wakes up after being floged in a dream?

The mark was not there before she slept...

castro316:


Amen bro I love Him so much. I really wish I was more saintly. Lord have mercy on me.

tintingz:
There are many causes,

- There's probably wall geckos, rats, cockroaches, bugs.

- Scratching

- The bed ones sleep on.

It has nothing to do with demons or witches.

Originakalokalo:




Haba oga,

Marks of Cane. All over the body.....

tintingz:
If you can show image of the marks.

It can be some kind of an infection and what I listed above.

There are some infections when one scratches the body it gives a reddish line mark.

The bed sheet ones sleeps on can cause marks.

There is something called Dermatographia.

Originakalokalo:




Haba oga,

Marks of Cane. All over the body.....

Originakalokalo:


My brother, the facts are everywhere....

His works are incredible.

Light traveling at 300million metres per second from a star takes 100years or more to reach the Earth...

Can you image such distance?

The sun is very huge, 10,000 of the earth will sit in the sun conveniently. yet, it is a dot compare to some planets....

I have a new title for the most high God....

He is the Most insulted God. Yet, The most powerful being in all the heavens and the earth....

With all this powers, he is the most merciful...

That is why the most powerful God can still be the most insulted.... and yet,..

He will still be hoping, begging, and waiting for the repentance of man....

I have never seen this kind of God before...

If you want, I can show you where he begs.

Glory to the ancient of days.....He is stitted between dreadful cherubims,

High and exalted... He is in a glory that eyes cannot behold....(no wonder he owns the sun)

The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords....

He is charge of the affairs of men and spirits.....

He set their rules....

His faithfulness is ever sure... .

Ever merciful...

He brings rain and sun on murderes of Infants, children and the old...

Glory, Honour, Power, Majesty, Dominon, Praise be to our God....

Now and forevermore.
Oh my goodness

Amen.

Ihedinobi3:
Atheism is obviously baseless. Whether the OP is proven or not, it is a fact.

I will add that atheism is a denial of the existence of God. God offers only two types of evidence to all human beings who attain accountability and mental capacity:

1. Creation (which displays His unfathomable power and wisdom)

2. Human conscience (which instructs us all of what sort of God He is).

If these proofs can be denied and ignored - and the Bible clearly says that they can - it is a waste of time to attempt to offer any other proofs especially when it is not one that God offers.

JeromeBlack:



You havent changed from your illogical arguments.

How do you know that your God created the world? There are many religions that claim that their God created the world. Were you there during creation? I hope you know that the bible has one of the least sensible and least explained creation story?


There are people who naturally lack a conscience. We call them psychopaths. Your argument proving God through conscience makes no sense considering this fact.

Ihedinobi3:


Like I told you years ago, a thing does not become true because you insist that it is true. So, it is not necessarily true that I make illogical arguments because you say that I do.

How do you know that my God did not create the world or that the other claims in other religions or philosophies are just as credible as mine? Were you there when everything began?

Your claims about the Bible are noted and discarded.

Not even in the least. Your counter is like saying that because there are dwarfs, it is wrong to say that God created human beings. Of course, there are mentally disabled people but they are clearly the exception, not the rule. Human conscience is a normal part of being human. The lack of it is a deformity rather than any kind of argument.

Originakalokalo:




I said....IF THESE CAN BE PROVEN....

I have seen those cases I mentioned....

Let me add this, An Asp was shot. He brought all the bullets.... and I saw them with my naked eyes...

I just told you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Are you an atheist?

You should be worried.

I tell you.

Originakalokalo:



If You don't believe in paranormal activities, demons, spiritual powers, and you dispel the existence of the spiritual realm generally,

You have made the greatest mistake of your life.

frank317:


What do I stand to gain by believing in paranormal activities, demons and spiritual powers?

JeromeBlack:


Bro, imagine that both of us were walking with our wives in a foreign country and arrived in front of a high fence. We cant see what is at the other side of the fence. Your wife claims that there is a field of yam behind the fence. My wife claims that there is a field of swamp rice behind the fence. You then claim that there is a football field behind the fence. There will only be 3 facts from this scenario

1. Only 1 claim from the 3 claims about the fence COULD be correct. For 1 to be correct, the others must be false
2. All claims could still be false
3. Without proof, I have every right to dismiss the others' 3 claims because I know that they havent been behind the fence
4. They could each claim that they have a book about the fence but that is not enough, the books could be outdated, unreliable or full of contradiction.
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This story is a parable designed to point out the fallacious method of reasoning you make use of when you argue for God/creationism. You have never seen God and neither were you present during the creation. I have every right to dismiss your claims when you have no proof and you are not an eye witness. There are many religions that claim that their God created everything. For their religion to be correct, yours has to be false.


The only thing you have as proof is an unreliable, outdated and contradictory book called the bible. The same bible that fraudulent pastors use to milk gullible followers for private jets. The same bible that was used to justify the enslavement of our black race. The same bible that was used to justify burning innocent women/children accused of being witches. The same bible that has talking snakes, ghosts and zombies.


Oga, go and sit down.

Ihedinobi3:
Your analogy is good but it failed to account for Faith.
Faith is a means of looking beyond the fence to see what is really there. All four of the individuals in your analogy possess it. But not all four bother to use it. For that reason, only the one who uses it is the one to be trusted about what lies beyond the fence, certainly not the one who insists that there is nothing behind the fence just because he doesn't see beyond the fence and doesn't want to.

As for your claims about the Bible, you should prove it. I care nothing for claims.
Anyone can pretend that anything they want is true. I am only interested in seeing why you think your claims are true.

Originakalokalo:


Read my first post on this thread..

If they exist....there is a spiritual world.

If there is a spiritual world there is a being that controls that world... The most powerful...

God, the father of all spirits.

Read my first post again...this time, slowly.

MuttleyLaff:
His analogy is not good at all.
He is claiming conjectures to be facts

Originakalokalo:

If the Following can be Proven, then atheists Should Be worried About their Belief.

Existence of powers like juju, blood money, fortifications against bullets,

disappearing from one location to another and other activities that transcends physical abilities.

Let me share some Examples of Cases that defile physical laws..As an eye witness.

1. someone being flogged in the dream and there are marks all over the body when the person wakes up...This is more than just a dream and I have seen this one firsthand....she was my girlfriend back in school.

2. . Someone was shot in the dream after he got promoted in the office....six months after the dream, he could not go to his office

...and when "special prayers" and baths were done for him, some local bullets dropped off his body....( I have seen this too, firsthand.)

3. This one is funny. An aboki was fighting a man from Ogun state on the ist of January of a particular year..

.It involved a family friend and I was in the house at the time...

The aboki took an iron rod to hit my friend's uncle ...he moved back and entered his car, slipped a ring on his finger, and tap the aboki on the head .. .

Then the aboki fell down flat...he stood up and fell again...this time, he was shaking violently on the floor...

People ran away.....this uncle then approached the aboki and tap his slightly on the chest....the guy stood up, got his balance...

and left. It almost degenerated into a street fight.

If these activities can be proven, then they supports the existence of another realm that is unseen....which can influence the physical world.

That realm is spiritual.... and there must be laws to enforce order in that realm...else there will be chaos and things will Fall apart

Now, if there is order in the spiritual world, it must be put inplace and enforced by a ruler who has ultimate power(God) ...

else, a spirit may just decide to destroy a whole country in seconds..

The ground may be poisoned and all the produce becomes poison....and everyone dies..


Take a look at the physical world.... Laws of matter, gravity, light etc ensure sustainability....

These laws keep everything in cycle and ensures continuity.... Else, a creator will have to be creating every second...

The moment these laws cease to exist, there will be trouble. Engineers produce engines to work in cycles...

to an extent for continuity.

The creator of the heavens and earth is not stupid...

Laws of rotation and revolution brings day and night and seasons and weather. He doesn't have to declare them into existence every time these phenomena are needed.

In conclusion,

If there are powers that suggest the existence of a realm outside the physical,

There is God....

Originakalokalo:


Read my first post on this thread..

If they exist....there is a spiritual world.

If there is a spiritual world there is a being that controls that world... The most powerful...

God, the father of all spirits.

Read my first post again...this time, slowly.

LordReed:


Your god is no better Zeus and his merry band of misbehaving gods.