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Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 3:17pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: If that is how it works then Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist and non Christians who heard the gospel are all going to hell. That is over 4.5 billion people to perish, Jesus death was pretty useless after all. Technically, heaven is for Christians only. But do you realize not everyone can be Christian. It is impossible. Environment and circumstances influences one's religion. If Arabs colonized the entire Nigeria, you would be a devout Muslim. So you can't really blame those non Christians, can you. You are no different from them. Your God sending people to eternal punishment just because they were not Christian is very unfair, don't you think. 2 Likes |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 3:19pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
VictorRomanov: I said they will be judged by there conscience. Our conscience is where moral code is written. And they couldn't believe because they did not hear, it is in Romans 10. Salvation comes from believing that Jesus died for your sin. That he paid the price for your sins. The only effective remedy for the sins of the world was the blood of Jesus. Our works on our own are filthy rags. It is Jesus that makes the difference The righteousness of man is worthless But being the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus is what makes the difference. It is Jesus who makes the difference. So our works cannot justify us. But rather depending on the life of Christ to live right justifies us |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 3:27pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: There is no other name given under heaven where men will saved except the name of Jesus. People always have opportunity There are a lot of Muslims that have personal revelation of Jesus and believed. Do you know that there are many secret disciples of Jesus in the Islamic world? As far as Saudi Arabia. There is one Christian Chanel on television that they wrote from the palace of king of Saudi Arabia that they receive the Chanel and hear the gospel on the television. Likewise in India and many parts of the world. The gospel is spreading all around the world. Many are believing and accepting Jesus secretly 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 3:33pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: God is a God of justice. He sent his Son Jesus to pay the price. He was scourged, whipped, nailed and crucified. Jesus paid the price for humanities sin with His own life. So when people reject God's only remedy for salvation. What will be another remedy? It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living GOD. It is only by His mercies that we are not consumed 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by VictorRomanov: 3:37pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: I don't know if you understand the bolded. I am trying to help you see the application or perhaps the implication. Let's say one of my forefathers like 10 generations behind me, married two wives, because his conscience and tradition allowed him to. He sacrificed to idols and saw nothing wrong with it because his conscience and his traditional urged him to do so. You are saying that since he didn't hear about Jesus (who is the only way to salvation) that he would be judged as fit for heaven because his conscience was clear? Yes or No If it is yes, that means his works which were allowed by his conscience enabled him to have salvation and not the blood of Jesus. Isn't it? It's a simple yes or no answer. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 3:47pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: What is the ratio of Muslims converted to devout Muslims in the whole world For every 1 non Christian you converted there are a 100 more devout Muslims, Buddhist, Hindus who will never leave their religion. Do you know how difficult it is for one to abandon the religion of his parents and society. For every major religion one grows up with there is 95% chance of sticking with that religion till death. If you were raised in a Muslim family in a Muslim country like Saudi Arabia, what are are the chances of you leaving Islam for another religion It seems you don't understand how religion works. You are underestimating the sentimental value of religion to one's life. That is why you must never castigate a man for not leaving his religion. You sef never leave your religion, so there is no need judging a man or writing him off to eternal punishment simply because he didn't convert. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 3:51pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: How is eternity in hell fire a worthy punishment for sin. How does finite offences befit infinite punishment 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 3:57pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
VictorRomanov: The reason he will be judged according to his conscience was because he did not hear about Jesus So God being a God of justice judges him based on moral code like did he kill, commit adultery, steal etc. But for those that heard of Jesus, God judges them based on Jesus, that is why Romans 8 vs 1 says that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 4:03pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: That is why they are secret disciples of Jesus. Some of them that opened up may even lose there life. And there are very many of them that believed Very many but secretly See if you have encounter with the resurrected Christ your life will never be the same again Jesus is very real He is not a fairy story 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 4:04pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: So if my ancestors partook in killing of twins, they will go to heaven. After all killing of twins was a moral code in that society. Those who did it saw nothing wrong in it. It was practice to purge the society of evil and please the gods. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 4:05pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: What is the ratio of secret disciples to devout Muslims. In every 100,000,000 Muslims how many would have encounter with Jesus and what are the chances. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 4:08pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: The offence is rejecting God's one and only sacrifice. Not even sin because Jesus has already solved the sin question by his death I used to ask this questions too. Until God opened my eyes to understand salvation and Jesus. I fell in love with Jesus. That is the best thing that happened to me. Jesus is the best friend anyone can have 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Octaves(m): 4:11pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Mtcheeeew! All these pentecostals and their faulty doctrines! So prostitutes that believe in Jesus are going to heaven Abi? Lord have mercy on your people.. 2 Likes |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 4:12pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: If you as a human being reject the sacrifice and effort of your parents on your life. Are they justified to lock you up in a furnace and roast you alive |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 4:15pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: Let me ask you this two question The first world that was destroyed by flood Was it not only Noah and his family that were saved When Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed was it not only lot and his family were saved See my brother we can never question God's Justice because we are mere men. Even the breadth in our nostrils belong to God Our body is God's Our ability to impregnate our wife is God Children we get is God's Oil in our ground is God's That our land is fruitful is God's See man can't live without God 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 4:18pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: Noah and Lots family survived but millions died. Including... Children. Pregnant women and their unborn babies. Innocent people killed. So much for God's justice... |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by VictorRomanov: 4:28pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: Good! So considering the fact that christianity has been around for roughly 2000 years and humans has been in existence for about 6000 years or thereabout, we can safely assume that majority of the good people that would make heaven won't do so via Jesus. Except you are saying that there were little or no good people existing before Jesus came. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by linnyx: 4:44pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
HeyCorleone: There's something called will which He (God) gives to all men. You decide where you want to end up. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by HeyCorleone(m): 4:50pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
linnyx: Even with the will, the fact that he is omniscient cancels that out. Do more study on the concept of "omniscience". It's infinite. No constraint. Besides God is a loving father. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by linnyx: 4:52pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Evince:Oh yea, He (The Almighty) has given me the answers I need. All I need do is read His words, look around me and even at you and your intelligence, I just marvel at the magnificence of His creation. You can do better without the insults though. Bless your sweet heart |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 4:57pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
BlackManta: Can a clay question the Porter |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by linnyx: 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
HeyCorleone: Him being omniscient doesn't mean He interferes with our decisions. 2 Likes |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BlackManta(m): 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: Clay can't talk. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
VictorRomanov: Before Jesus came God judges people by there deeds. Even in the old testament. They were men that feared God 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by HeyCorleone(m): 5:10pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
linnyx: He, nonetheless, knows our decisions. It seems you do not understand the extent of His omniscience. There's nothing that's hidden from him. True he can't override our beliefs and all, but he knows them. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Aaronsrod: 5:17pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: If the clay questions, then like the sinner it shall be cast into the flames and burnt. But the potter shall redeem the clay and the sinner shall be tortured forever and ever. Praise Him! |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Evidenx(m): 6:12pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Rayreezy:oh mortal man,becos d devil have tied u with a twine,u now behave like a swine.....REPENT B4 IT'S TOO LATE. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by clem7676: 7:03pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
he that thinks he stands should take heed lest he falls... what can you say about this? 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by VictorRomanov: 7:11pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
djon78: So if God will accept men for their good deeds before Jesus came and they'll make heaven, why then was there need for Jesus to come and die. Because it wouldn't make any different if he didn't come. Men with good deeds and a clean conscience would still have made heaven. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by LogicStatement: 8:25pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
Oh, I came late to this party! @Op has said nothing but heresy. If we only need to accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour as the only thing we need to make heaven even if we sin afterwards, then, how come Judas Iscariot, Ananias and Safira who accepted Jesus but later sinned by committing suicide and lying respectively did not make heaven? This shows that the op's understanding of Christianity/bible is faulty. The bible is clear. We need to believe in Jesus as our Lord and Saviour, be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit and so, walk in the Spirit we have received which makes us new born in Christ. Even if we fall to the flesh by sinning (though, the grace of God is sufficient for us not to fall into temptation but sometimes, we don't make use of the grace and fall anyway), we should quickly go back to God with a remorseful heart and desire not to go back to the sin again. And in the infinite mercy of God, we will be forgiven. This is what will make us saints and get us to heaven. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by djon78(m): 9:40pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
[quoteg author=VictorRomanov post=73495383] So if God will accept men for their good deeds before Jesus came and they'll make heaven, why then was there need for Jesus to come and die. Because it wouldn't make any different if he didn't come. Men with good deeds and a clean conscience would still have made heaven.[/quote] They did not go to heaven. They were in bosom of Abraham just like dead Lazarus Jesus talked about in rich man and Lazarus There was always a sacrifice for sin. Animals had to be killed. In almost all cultures from Africa to Asia to South America there has always been animal sacrifices. But animal sacrifices could not pay the ultimate price for the sin of man. God had to send His only begotten son Jesus to come and pay as a sacrificial Lamb for the sin of the whole world. In Hebrews 8 vs 5, when Moses was given the design of the tabernacle, it was a design of tabernacle in heaven In Hebrews 9 vs 11 and 12 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; This tabernacle was in heaven not on earth 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. With his own blood not of goats he entered the holy place in heaven before God Almighty and obtained eternal redemption. That is eternal by back. This was heavenly transactions. The blood of goats and calves could cover sin before a Holy God for sometime But Jesus with his own blood, purchased eternal redemption for us The gravity of this purchase, human understanding cannot grasp it. But this purchase could allow the vilest offenders like prostitutes, murderers, drug dealers, all kind of evil and vile men who had no hope. But the blood of Jesus can wash away all there sins and make them new creatures or born again. So that God will completely forgive there sins because of the blood of Jesus. Money cannot be equated to the value of blood of Jesus as written in 1 Peter vs 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; Money is corruptible, it can go away or lose value or become worthless tomorrow 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: But the blood of Jesus is precious, very expensive, highest Worth. |
Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Evince(m): 10:09pm On Dec 02, 2018 |
linnyx:I take the insult back with heart felt apology. But can u do a research about the writing of the moral book that later called God's word. Please read and discover |
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