Hairyrapunzel:


Ephraim and David are Yahweh's firstborns. Go and argue with Yahweh why he created them and brought them into existence first even if they weren't firstborns of their fathers.

zodiakzax:



You see how stupid you are? Where in the whole scripture did it say Jesus was begotten via creation?

And did Mary have a husband before getting pregnant? God is all powerful isn't he? Does God need a wife to bring forth something? You see how stupid you are.. you always.shout Almighty, Almighty, Almighty yet you don't believe he's almighty.


Guys you see, you.see how foolish he sounds? Gruni123 you see how block headed these guys are? Didnt he just say Paul didnt tell any Angel that he's begotten? Show me where in job1:6 that's says angels were the Begotten sons of God. I am waiting for this


My friend you are contradicting yourself here and there... You said Abraham has many sons yet Isaac is the Begotten Son hence begotten here doesn't mean born by birth correct?

So it cannot be first and foremost since Ishmael was the first son of Abraham..

Isaac was begotten because he was a unique son correct?

You see how ignorant you are, if begotten means first and foremost then Isaac can't be the Begotten Son of Abraham since he wasn't the first. It is the uniqueness of Isaac that counts.


This guy is so dumb, you said


"Heb1:5-7 ,Paul referenced the fact that Yahweh never spoke those words to any angel."


Thank you now we agree that Yahweh NEVER TOLD ANY ANGEL HE IS BEGOTTEN. So I put it to you that your organization has made a fool out of you and others by telling you that Jesus is an Angel... you see why I said you guys are stupid?


But he contradicts himself again

He said " Is Jesus Christ (a spirit being in heaven before he to the earth)), an angel in heaven before his earthly sojourn? Yes."

But you just said he was not an angel since God didn't say to any angel that he's his begotten son...
You see how silly you sound? ... confront them and they will expose themselves to you...


You said he was among the sons at the meeting in Job, ,

who told you he was among the sons? Answer


Bunch of idiots....

zodiakzax:
Where are they? Where is Mr Doctionary Man? Scared goats.... are you giving up already? ONEJ BARRISTTER07, CAPTIVATOR ANS THE REST..

Stupid useless Jehovah witnesses, stupid cult...repent l...

zodiakzax:


You are clearly stupid... it's a stupid question, you have nothing to say... that word is Simply messenger,

the bible version you used even made a fool out of you my friend, why didnt it say " behold i send you my angel?" But rather he said messenger... same Hebrew word used in both cases..... why didnt you quote from you NWT? You see my friend when you start jumjng from here to there, it only means you are stupid and ignorant.

Okay no problem let's assume I accept your translation, will you accept John 1:1 from the same Darbys translation? You should right? So Jesus is God not " a god".


Darby Translation (DARBY) John 1:1
1 In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God



This shows how stupid you are.... why are you guys shy of your NWT?? You don't like.using it at all..... Its funny... you insult your organization and yourself.... I leave you to Gruni123 and others..

Barristter07:


Good, bookmarked.

If it's simply Messenger, why is it translated " Angel " in many places ?



Angel and messenger is the same.





Your premise that a god is a wrong translation is wrong.

Of course, Darby also translate Theo's as " a god " just like NWT at Act 28;6 ... So NWT is not wrong

Next ...

zodiakzax:


So is Jesus ANGEL Michael the Angelic Being?


My friend barristter07 don't make this hard on yourself, it's easy all you have to do kneel down and sincerely pray to God to forgive you your sins and become born again. On that day when you stand in from of Jesus to give account, no one will be with you, no 8 old men, nobody only you. So don't defend anyone My friend,



My friend stop making a fool out of yourself, which version translated acts 28:6 as God and not a god? KJV,NIV,ESV,etc all has it god. Darby translation on John1:1 is God not "a god" why are you blind? You are using a version to make your point which goes against you very NWT. My friend stick to your NWT. Okay...

Kindly answer me is Jesus ANGEL Michael the Angelic Being?

zodiakzax:


So is Jesus ANGEL Michael the Angelic Being?


My friend barristter07 don't make this hard on yourself, it's easy all you have to do kneel down and sincerely pray to God to forgive you your sins and become born again. On that day when you stand in from of Jesus to give account, no one will be with you, no 8 old men, nobody only you. So don't defend anyone My friend,



My friend stop making a fool out of yourself, which version translated acts 28:6 as God and not a god? KJV,NIV,ESV,etc all has it god. Darby translation on John1:1 is God not "a god" why are you blind? You are using a version to make your point which goes against you very NWT. My friend stick to your NWT. Okay...

Kindly answer me is Jesus ANGEL Michael the Angelic Being?

Barristter07:


Malak means Angel ... Yes or No ?

OneJ:


1) Matt 3:16, " this is my son ,the beloved", zodiakzax does statement refer to U?

Paul said that statement in heb1:5-7 , emphasized that Yahweh has anointed Jesus Christ to occupy an exalted position as king, no other Angel had that privilege.
Don't twist & distort its meaning with your stupidity.

2) Your mumu brain dey see Mary for Heb 1:5-7 whereas that entire chapter 1 never said anything about Mary.

Paul spoke about Yahweh ,Almighty & Supreme, who appointed Jesus as heir to Yahweh's throne.
Two distinct spirit beings ,not distorted and upgraded to one being, another solid hammer against the trinity mumu.

3). In v9 "... therefore God (Yahweh), your God (Yahweh) has set you (Jesus) above your companions by anointing you..."
My question for U....
zodiakzax , who are Jesus " companions" in v9?

4) Your statement. "you see how ignorant you are, if begotten means first and foremost
Isaac was begotten then Isaac can't be the begotten son of Abraham...."

Thats proof that your stupidity knows no bound & U are corrupted with mumu virus.
Your LIES are in fact legendary.

5) Your stupidity and LIES can not twist the true meaning of begotten, that is
1a - birth .
1b- created

Heb11:15-17 said Isaac is only begotten son because he was the promised seed .
Isaac was among the begotten sons & daughters of. Abraham.

Yahweh has begotten myriads of sons in the spirit realm but only Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King.
That's the point that Paul emphasized in Heb1:5-7.
Let it sink into your God-given brain (if it still exists) , bereft of mumu virus.

Barristter07:


Malak means Angel ... Yes or No ?

Hairyrapunzel:


Assumption assumption assumption. So you now resort to asking if malak means angel or not? Lol

You will soon quote a phrase in old testament and assume that they referred to Jesus Christ as an angel. Then conclude by making this statement: " evidently, it looks like Jesus is an Angel after all". Lol

OneJ:
@zodiakzax, U just dey rant up& down like rabid dog,to showcase your mumu.
Sottayy u dey twist my posts.
The question u dey fear continues to haunt U.
"How did Yahweh born the mountains?
the question no concern your mother.

Your point (1) U started with a lie "Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm" but eventually validated the gospel truth that Jesus Christ is not Almighty Yahweh to condemn your mumu doctrine. U wrote, "Yahweh created everything ... through his son"

2) U know say Yahweh "HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING", yet your stupidity fry your brain sottay U deny the truth that YAHWEH born the mountains.
Ode ! Lol.

OneJ:
@zodiakzax, U just dey rant up& down like rabid dog,to showcase your mumu.
Sottayy u dey twist my posts.
The question u dey fear continues to haunt U.
"How did Yahweh born the mountains?
the question no concern your mother.

Your point (1) U started with a lie "Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm" but eventually validated the gospel truth that Jesus Christ is not Almighty Yahweh to condemn your mumu doctrine. U wrote, "Yahweh created everything ... through his son"

2) U know say Yahweh "HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING", yet your stupidity fry your brain sottay U deny the truth that YAHWEH born the mountains.
Ode ! Lol.

Barristter07:


the problem with unintelligent people is they are so absorbed in their ignorance .

The Greek word at John 1:1 is Theo's .. Yes or no ?

You asked if I agree with Darby and not NWT at John 1:1, but I replied that Darby doesn't contradict NWT because at Act 28:6 darby also translate Theo's as " a god " , same thing NWT did at John 1:1

That proves a god is not a wrong translation unless Darby is wrong at Act 28:6

Hairyrapunzel:


Since you say Jesus is a god you should be able to tell us if he is a true or a false god because you claim there is only one true God.


Is Jesus a true or a false god?

Barristter07:


the problem with unintelligent people is they are so absorbed in their ignorance .

The Greek word at John 1:1 is Theo's .. Yes or no ?

You asked if I agree with Darby and not NWT at John 1:1, but I replied that Darby doesn't contradict NWT because at Act 28:6 darby also translate Theo's as " a god " , same thing NWT did at John 1:1

That proves a god is not a wrong translation unless Darby is wrong at Act 28:6

Barristter07:


Okay



The children are human too

Explain what that Hebrews mean !!!

Real chicken , don't be scared to explain

Cc: Gruni1234 , u can help him



Wait sef , who deny it means human

Aren't the children human too ?

Yeeparipa , Chicken Explain that Hebrews for us.

Which Nature did he share with the children ?



A fake Christian dismiss Scripture as irrelevant. Scripture Cannot be broken, it wont contradict ...Why not explain since you know the context ?



Is Hebrews lying he shared the nature of the children??


This won't save you

Jesus never denied been an offspring of David, he just want them to know he is bigger , higher and exists before David .

Sense

Mr Context , then explain Hebrews 2:14 in context .. Which Nature did Jesus share with Children ?




says a coward , abeg address the above.



Spirit of man is Not man . if it is, that means Jesus went to heaven the day he died since his spirit return to the Father. Luke 23:46

Genesis 2:7 Jehovah went on to form the man out of dust.

He was called MAN even without Spirit in him , when he was just dust



Hahahahahaha at highlighted, so who then ... For you to claim it isn't God the Father , you must have gotten evidence of who ... Tell us ?

Am seriously enjoying this



If you have sense , you would know am only saying why it can't be Trinity, in short .. Who did Paul refer to as " God " ?

Are you clueless on that?



If the spirit of God is same Him
Who is the Him ? God .? Which God cos there areany Gods ?

Identify



His Firstborn says some versions

Now you switch, then the logical question is: The Firstborn of who ?

Who is his Father ?

No single sense dey your head



Okay, Mountains are not among Gods creations ?

I need an answer



We are dealing with what it means when God born .

So answer that question about mountains

OneJ:
@zodiakzax, U just dey rant up& down like rabid dog,to showcase your mumu.
Sottayy u dey twist my posts.
The question u dey fear continues to haunt U.
"How did Yahweh born the mountains?
the question no concern your mother.

Your point (1) U started with a lie "Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm" but eventually validated the gospel truth that Jesus Christ is not Almighty Yahweh to condemn your mumu doctrine. U wrote, "Yahweh created everything ... through his son"

2) U know say Yahweh "HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING", yet your stupidity fry your brain sottay U deny the truth that YAHWEH born the mountains.
Ode ! Lol.

Your point (2) shows the flaws in your understanding of Bible truth.

" The promises was spoken to Abraham and to his seed (his only begotten son Isaac, Heb 11:17,18) the sculpture does not say "and to seeds" meaning many people (other children begotten by Abraham), but. "and to your seed" meaning one person, who is Christ" (Yahweh's only begotten son , the anointed Messianic king). Gal 3:16.

Christ is Abraham's seed (Gal 3:29) " therefore, God (Yahweh),your God (Yahweh) has set you above your companions by ANOINTING you ...."
Heb1:9,13

Yahweh's only begotten son, "first begotten", Abraham's seed, anointed as Messianic king.

Heb 1:5-9,13. 1cor 15:24-27.

"He is the only one of his kind," (https://wol.jw.org) just like Isaac was the only one of his kind among Abraham's many sons and daughters.

johnw47:
the Word Jesus Christ created the angels and everything that was created, there is nothing that exists that He didn't create

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

without the Word Jesus nothing was created = Father never created anything without the Word Jesus,
clearly showing that the Word Jesus Christ wasn't created and has always been

Barristter07:


the problem with unintelligent people is they are so absorbed in their ignorance .

The Greek word at John 1:1 is Theo's .. Yes or no ?

You asked if I agree with Darby and not NWT at John 1:1, but I replied that Darby doesn't contradict NWT because at Act 28:6 darby also translate Theo's as " a god " , same thing NWT did at John 1:1

That proves a god is not a wrong translation unless Darby is wrong at Act 28:6

OneJ:


Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....

Let's consider these examples:

1a. This house was built through me.
1 b, This house was built by me
Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing.
(1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership.
(1b) is saying that one person alone built it.

https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

"And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10.

"DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM
is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."

Prov 8:30
"I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence"

zodiakzax:


You are stupid.. go and answer the questions I asked you.... a kid kid like you trying to.explain scriptures.. you think we are joking here or what? Go to your mummy and papa...stupid little kid...

OneJ:


keep barking out loud.
The symptoms are obvious.
Your mumu virus no get cure.
The truth of God's word the Bible
has confirmed your stupidity.

Barristter07:


Good, bookmarked.

If it's simply Messenger, why is it translated " Angel " in many places ?



Angel and messenger is the same.





Your premise that a god is a wrong translation is wrong.

Of course, Darby also translate Theo's as " a god " just like NWT at Act 28;6 ... So NWT is not wrong

Next ...

OneJ:


Psalms 82:6 , did Yahweh call his sons "false gods?"

John 10:34,35 did Jesus call them "false gods"?

Did the scriptures (Acts 28:6, 12:22) call both men "false gods?"

The truth is always bitter- Jesus is a god.
Accept the humble pie.
Arrogance & undisguised hatred for the truth are duz U no good

OneJ:


keep barking out loud.
The symptoms are obvious.
Your mumu virus no get cure.
The truth of God's word the Bible
has confirmed your stupidity.

zodiakzax:


I asked you a question, you guys disrespect me when you don't answer...so answer then I will answer your stupidity and You will see how more foolish you will become..


Your Organisation teaches Jesus is Michael The Angelic Being, do you believe it or not?