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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Pharaoh9(m): 6:55pm On Dec 05, 2018
allexpensive:


The military is being overhauled sir. Infact the AK is in limited use here in the northeast. The north east is populated with Tavor, AR-M1 and M762.

The ak47 Is in limited use.



You must be related to lie Muhammad

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by DaV8King(m): 7:00pm On Dec 05, 2018
Tennyrank:


It cannot be just for close quarter fire. Mind you those DSS guys equally use f2000, galil rifle and p90 depending on their operations.

TAVOR
Built around a long-stroke piston system (as found in the M1 Garand and AK-47), the Tavor is designed to maximize reliability, durability, simplicity of design, and ease of maintenance, particularly under adverse or battlefield conditions.[5]

In 2009, the Tavor X95 (also known as the Micro Tavor or MTAR) was selected by the IDF to gradually replace the M16 assault rifle and M4 carbine variants as the standard-issued weapon of the Israeli infantry by the end of 2018. The first X95 bullpup rifles were issued to infantry units in 2013.[6] Both the IWI TAR-21 and IWI X95 are part of the Tavor family of rifles, along with the Tavor 7.

With the numbers of fights Israel Defence engage in year in year out you will only ask yourself how they could function so well if the rifle is solely for close range. With Israel planning to make it the only infantry weapon by end of this year.
.check am nah.

Interestingly, the Nigeria navy now use Favor.

SBS and VIP protection

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by DaV8King(m): 7:04pm On Dec 05, 2018
IamPlato:
thats An Amazing Cost. The Nigerian Government Can Afford It But Will Never Do That. They Have Hardly Done The Little Things They Should do For The Nation Talkless Of Arming a Soldier At Such High Cost

Really?

The Pentagon vs Ship House(Nigerian MoD) that can't spend US$1 billion without a national inquest?

Please

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by tutudesz: 7:14pm On Dec 05, 2018
ocelot2006:


ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Come to think of it, how come our troops aren't issued secondary weapons (pistols)? Besides I noticed that the Army still uses the old Browning Hi-power pistols. The Police is even worse with Chinese copies of the Russian Makarov plus Norinco pistols, although there are some Beretta M9s. As far as I'm concerned the Navy's SBS along with DSS are far better equipped with the later using IWI Jericho 941s.
You know why the Navy are better equipped? Because they have to protect the major Oil installation and The same for the DSS to protect the politicians. Imagine send soldiers to fight without secondary.
OBJ wanted to upgrade the military arsenal but the Senate stopped him on the ground that he was planning to use the military to stay beyond his second term.
The cheap and Old Ak47 is used to protect the citizens, while the expensive and latest are used to protect politicians.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by dometome: 7:51pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


wtf are you talkin about....??....nazis had their own mashine gun and it was not a ak47 in anyway....
please google the origin of AK47
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by dometome: 8:00pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:


What are you even saying ? Did you not see where I said the TAvor TAR21 was a carbine for close quarter combat or fire fight .. I said pound for pound the AK47 remains the best assault rifle out there and that's a fact .. The development of the M16 was influence byvyhe success of the AK47 and till date the M16 has not been able to surpass the AK in any assault rifle ranking .... Oga contrary to uninformed opinions like yours the AK 47 was never a copy of the Nazi STG 44 infact apart for the seeming similarity in aesthetic form they have no mechanical resemblance from bolt mechanism to breech mechansim to gas loading mechanism
the AK 47 is based on stg 44, in fact the man that made the first AK 47 passed away not too long ago, he even said he would have preferred inventing another thing, The M16 AR is tightly controlled, like IOS, while AK 47 is open like Android, one advantage AK 47 has over M16 is the price.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by decatalyst(m): 8:00pm On Dec 05, 2018
Fynline:
Not all use AK 4. There is a shift already from AK47.

Bro, only the special force unit use this... They don't engage in range battle. They engage behind enemy lines...more or less a close combat battle.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by evesdon4u: 8:25pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name

Thank you very much for your apt and precise response to this post...God bless you!

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by nams77: 8:28pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
Very apt. op is moved by rubber packaging. The ak47 is one rugged S.O.B. hardly jam, shots in almost all kinds of weather conditions-snow, rain, mud. Etc

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Admiralwale(m): 8:59pm On Dec 05, 2018
If the Nigerian military would change its assault riffle, den M-4 is the best upgrade to go for.

Rate of fire
700–950 round/min cyclic

Effective firing range
500 m (550 yd.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by joshingjosh(m): 9:39pm On Dec 05, 2018
jpphilips:


DSS protect politicians, the army protect Nigerians, that's the difference, the NNSBS a specialized unit in the army uses that Tavor riffle too.
You must understand that Nigerian defense budget is meager as such there are equipment that will never go round rather it is provided for specialized units.


The NNSBS is a specialized unit of the Nigerian Navy not the Army

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Blacknight28: 10:01pm On Dec 05, 2018
ocelot2006:


True, the M4 is accurate. Buy so is the Beryl, or Archer as the Americans call it. The Beryl is considered the FINEST copy of the AK-47 copy, and its stock design addresses the accuracy issue that has always plagued the AK-47.

But not as accurate as d M4
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by hakimi1974(m): 10:08pm On Dec 05, 2018
QDubz:
Tavors cant survive intense continous use such that it going to be subjected to in the frontline.
Lost a friend because of that damn rifle, it jammed while in combat in the northeast.
Drop an Ak in the mud and it'd still fire perfectly
Drop it in water and it would still answer when you call
Easy to maintain and service.
But allow small sand enter the tavor and watch it suffer stroke!...
gbam, you have said it all.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by sunisonflex29(m): 10:22pm On Dec 05, 2018
Denikayan:


Shallow question
Is
Why does the FBI fall in same class

We talking of national security here at its peak.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by amanikondo: 5:00am On Dec 06, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name

This is how Nigeria fell for Jubril from Sudan. Is your screenshot from Wikipedia or one useless opinion blog?. Even you will never see something like that on Wikis. By what yard is Ak 47 the best? If it is about widely used or well known, sure.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 6:14am On Dec 06, 2018
Shookonekilla:


What is the full burst deflection ration of that rifle the dss carry ?

What is the rpm at full burst and semi ?

What is Caliber of ammunition does it fire ?

How can you compare the ak47 to this combat rifle ?

Only a stupid person does that

Only in Nigeria do you see people with zero combat experience who have no knowledge of weapons talking like I am seeing here

This is so aggravating

What rubbish are you all saying ?
Bro I wrote NDA five straight times but I didn't make it
I like the way you Analyze
Carry go and always treat Civilians good

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by decrownprince(m): 9:31am On Dec 06, 2018
Not only d SPU use d type of AK47 u are referring to. CTU and MPF of the Nigeria Police also use it.
Okoyeebos:


The AK 47 commonly seen around fires 600 rounds per minute. Original one does 700.

Tavor does 750 to 900 rounds per minute but it's for close encounters and is not as rugged as the AK.

Before your Tavor rounds can reach a target, the AK has already dropped its target.

The best and most complete AKs in Nigeria are with policemen in the SPU. They are the policemen in blue caps and guard VIPs
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by decrownprince(m): 9:37am On Dec 06, 2018
On point. Have been using AK47 for six years now and it has never fail me.
nams77:

Very apt. op is moved by rubber packaging. The ak47 is one rugged S.O.B. hardly jam, shots in almost all kinds of weather conditions-snow, rain, mud. Etc

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Okoyeebos: 9:45am On Dec 06, 2018
decrownprince:
Not only d SPU use d type of AK47 u are referring to. CTU and MPF of the Nigeria Police also use it.

You're very correct.

You know the SPU and CTU operatives were drawn from the PMF and trained to birth the 2 units.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by decrownprince(m): 2:24pm On Dec 08, 2018
Okoyeebos:


You're very correct.

You know the SPU and CTU operatives were drawn from the PMF and trained to birth the 2 units.
Are u in d Force?
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 3:08am On Dec 10, 2018
Hotzone:

Word....AK 47 is built because of its rugged structure as it can be picked out of the mud and it can still be firing. Even its lethal power supersede would've been rivals.
As for me, I can't be comfortable without my piece concealed within, no harm intended but I am against intimidation either from criminal minded civilians or politicians or my fellow brothers in arms

You need to check yourself mister. For a badge carrying member of the Nigeria police force or a member of any security outfit anywhere in the world, it’s unprofessional displaying weapons and drinks on social media.
You really don’t know who is watching or the forces you attract by your habitual showing off.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 3:14am On Dec 10, 2018
Hizzy:

Bro I wrote NDA five straight times but I didn't make it
I like the way you Analyze
Carry go and always treat Civilians good

There are lots of civvies out there who are weapons experts and can teach your instructors.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 6:17am On Dec 10, 2018
gbosaa:


There are lots of civvies out there who are weapons experts and can teach your instructors.

Okay boss
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by SALIMAN(m): 4:25pm On Jan 08, 2019
Shookonekilla:
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So many ignorant dummies here typing what they don't know

See the rubbish this one typed

What is the name of the rifle the dss carry ?

See ignorance talking as if it knows what it is typing
Please I beg if you

Shut the hell up

Go and learn the difference between the two properly ..learn the name even

Bro , its a world of anonymous here , learn to write correctly ,Even though rifles are for force men AK47 u talking am not sure uve handled one before, however check my profile I am not a novice here , y just joined nairaland few years back , check my profile ..lastly the DSS stuffs is for short range .
Rubbish
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 10:34am On Feb 16, 2020
Most of you don’t even know the difference between an AR15 and a M4 rifle
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by lexy2014: 11:01pm On Feb 16, 2020
comshots:
The us soldiers are not using ak47.
Do expect d US to import its arms from Russia or from anywhere for that matter?

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by lexy2014: 11:02pm On Feb 16, 2020
Hizzy:

Bro I wrote NDA five straight times but I didn't make it
I like the way you Analyze
Carry go and always treat Civilians good

What did he analyse? Is it by venting and insulting others that u analyse?
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by puremaker7(m): 1:26am On Feb 17, 2020
Afterall both can kill
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by MetaPhysical: 2:27am On Feb 17, 2020
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name

Guns are ranked by their purpose, not necessarily by brand or market.

AK47 is popular by market.
When it comes to hunting for instance, AK47 is very poor performer. When it comes to close combat, AK47 is very poor performer. When it comes to precision shots, AK47 is a poor performer.

So on what basis are you ranking ak47 the best?

In all aspects of battle or security and law enforcement, precision shooting is still the most preferred. Those hired for precision fights are called Marksmen, and they do not like to be armed with ak47 at all.

AK47 has market, and it is the preferred choice for weapons ground runners and smugglers because it is cheap to get and cheap to distribute.

Go and read about M110 sass.
Sass means Semi Automatic Sniper System.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by MetaPhysical: 2:53am On Feb 17, 2020
It's hard to tell but DSS guns look like AR-15s with lipstick and eyeliner slapped on to make it look buffed and strange...thus appears to be imposing.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 6:42am On Feb 17, 2020
lexy2014:


What did he analyse? Is it by venting and insulting others that u analyse?
Late comer
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by lexy2014: 8:09am On Feb 17, 2020
Hizzy:

Late comer
How does what u said answer d questions I asked? What award did u receive for coming early? Is there a law that forbids "late coming" on NL? Meanwhile, look thru d thread & see my contributions.

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