whatmoreng:

Obviously.
Just imagine what will happen if ur IPOB endorse senators, house of reps, gubernatorial candidates that are truly sympathetic and genuine agitators to the Biafra movement from the south east. Definitely they will all win irrespective of their parties.
Just imagine having ur members in positions of authority. Imagine what it would do for the course.
Instead u decide to sit at home shouting " boycott, boycott". Who boycott epp? Nobody except APC.

How many of them have argued enough to bring development to their constituencies? What are the chances of 2 zones against 4 in the national assembly...do you think it is possible to lobby senators from other regions to vote against the interest of their paymasters? Do you think our current style of democracy favors lobbying by superior argument as against bribery which is the order of the day? Do you think, without being in control of our resources, we have the financial muscle to match the rest of the federal government naira for naira? Assuming we are, will it not be a sin against Chukwu Okike Abiama to resort to thesame rottenness from whence He is pulling is out?

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highcollide:
who told your we're interested in the government of this shithole?

btw,you are not going to get sympatizisers when you call nigeria a shithole....

nigeria may mean nothing to you but for others nigeria is dare to them....

Donelli:

What do you think will happen if it is confirmed before the general elections that there's truly an imposter?

On marketing Biafra, that is ongoing. Courting Israel is strategic. If you win Israel over you're basically a "keep in view" with the US and you know how much influence uncle Sam wields. You don't expect every cough and sneeze to be reported on social media do you?

On the bolded, except you only listen to Radio Biafra on Saturdays I don't think this should be an issue. Radio Biafra runs continuously all day, everyday. If you actually think about it, does showing the world how fraudulent the system is not support the call for boycott?

Thank you bro, shalom. You took the world out off my mouth. I was about telling our brother kanubiafra the same thing until you said it.

@ kanubiafra.
Everything IPOB does is strategic and pre-mediated. There is always timing and proper planning to it. IPOB as you see it is far bigger than what has been made public. That is the mistake Nigerian government made and are still making about IPOB and their agitation. They erroneously thought IPOB is one small hungry organisation that startered with mere radio broadcast of Nnamdi kanu in London.

IPOB is made up of some of the most educated, rich and well connected individuals both within and outside Nigeria, and backed by one of the most effective intelligence agency in the world. Those our brothers you see on the street who carry placards and stage protests are just foot soldiers in the struggle who do the open Sensitisation . IPOB as an organisation is much more bigger and more sophisticated than that. It is that sophisticated minds running and backing IPOB that made it so effective, consistent, well reputed before the international communities and several steps ahead of Nigeria government.

So my bro chill, relax and follow events as they unfold. You will see the end. Besides don't you know it's more damaging for IPOB to expose such grand fraud that took place in aso rock than to even boycott the election. Even the Nigerian government are seriously wishing that IPOB will focus on their call for election boycott than expose jubril as an impostor. The election may not even hold if IPOB succeeds in establishing that the current occupant of aso rock is an impostor. The consequences , confusion and chaos it will create can only be better imagined.

bantudra:


you are still doing it till today....even kenyans call you boastful not only other nigerians....

people that you call ss today fought you and that is a historical fact....
my area is in south south and i have no desire atall to become biafran....you can deny me my identity online as you like,thats still not gonna change anything....referenwetin is a none issue for us....

Before you make the issue of being boastful a matter of contention, I ask, what exactly was the boast about...is it fact or fiction?
SARS operatives boast about shooting people and nothing will happen...
Politicians boast about rigging elections...
Yorubas boast about being the most educated. So why is boasting now a problem... Or could it be inferiority complex

Again, the talk about SS fighting the SE, total hogwash. One, we are not talking about the whole SS, only our Biafran lands and natives cut out to deflate the struggle.

Two, the fear that has been planted in the hearts of many is that Igbos are dominating and all that, but ask yourself... When the Yorubas call you omo-ibo and the northerners call you iyanmirin, do they check your origin? When they begin their massacre in the north will they ask you to fill state of origin in an online poll?

Our people in Asaba who were shouting one nigeria in the hope that the Nigerian army would spare them, what happened? Those who felt that sabotaging the struggle would spare their neck, are they better off? You shouting "leave SS out of referendum" e nor pain you say food wen you cook for your own backyard na another man come chop am? How has your oil benefited you...has it not presented more harm than good? Brotherly, meh we dey try talk well abeg

bantudra:


i will give you a point....:
even if you manage to place your people in goverment in south east,you will still not get biafra....

This is a FACT we must establish. Going the political way will NOT help us get Biafra.
Nice one.

bantudra:


your area allowed alot of idiootic white missionaries into your area....

others didnt trust them atall....

When you say "your area" and "others", how then is it that we're in thesame mess of a country

bantudra:


then go vote and atleast control your own area....you dont have to parcipate in presidential elections,but atleast have your people as governors in your area....

We don't run a regional government as it is so this doesn't hold water.

bantudra:


because you continue votin the wrong people over and over again....shey na people from lagos dey vote in enugu or people from sokoto dey vote in abia....??...

you have no point...

btw....why were you people not shoutin referenwetin in the 80s,90s and so on....??

Do you honestly believe it is your vote that count?

banom:
Thank you bro, shalom. You took the world out off my mouth. I was about telling our brother kanubiafra the same thing until you said it.

We must continue...

There are many of our friends and brothers genuinely concerned about this solemn movement but are dismayed by the drawbacks. We must encourage them time and time again. As for those whose sole aim is to troll and/or sow discord, I pray you find peace.

oyin44:
Foolish people....since kanu and his henchmen..had no military leg to stand to stand upon..why not try politics ..on the Question of Nigerian unity,l agree with Buhari....

unity because of oil beggar!

This referendum you profer, will it be in the south east or nation wide? And in the case the biafra concept scores a minority in the results, does it put paid to biafra?

banom:


Welcome dear and thanks for this reasonable question. Boycotting the Nigerian election Is a civil disobedience and one of the many pressure and negotiation tools IPOB intends to use to press home for a date for referendum from the Nigerian government.

IPOB as you know is Indeginous people of Biafra: an umbrella movement that is agitating and championing for the emancipation of BIAFRA from Nigeria in a peaceful and civilised manner.

For BIAFRA to successfully secceed from Nigeria in a peaceful globaly acceptable way without war, a referendum must be conducted in this BIAFRAN area, and for this to happen, Nigeria must agree to it. But to seat down and ask Nigeria for this referendum she will not agree, and that is a waste of time. And to come out on the Nigerian street to protest for it is suicidal as Nigeria government has a penchant to kill unarmed protesters.
So one of the most effective ,peaceful and harmless ways to press home for it is to result or threaten to result into civil disobedience which one of them is election boycott.
Observe that IPOB never said its members will not be participating in the forth coming general election, rather they said" give us a date for referendum or we will not participate in the election. They are too different things here. To simply ask citizens who are still part of a constituted entity not to participate In her election Is undemocratic and uncivilised but to threaten to boycott the election except the Nigerian government gives them a listening ear on their demand for referendum is civilised and democratic.

For Nigerian government to stand in the way of referendum against Biafrans is evil, undemocratic and uncivilised for two major reasons.

One, referendum is enshrined in the African union and United Nations charter which Nigeria is a full member and signatory to. To simply sign something and when it's time to lmplement or practice it you refuse to honour is evil and fraudulent. It's akin to to someone issuing you a dude cheque.

Second, Nigeria as a nation was never put together with any form of consensus agreement or consultation of the people. Lord Lugard woke up one morning possibly after a bad night and for reasons best known to him decided to merge us together and call us a nation. He did that without respect for for us as a people and with total disregard to our differences in value systems, religious and cultural orientation. But what he failed to remember is that that same backward black people he was seeing that time will one day get educated ,get civilised , know their right and worths, ask questions and push to determine who they are and correct this abnormalities . And that is exactly what you are seeing today.

So this call for election boycott while being a civil disobedience is justified by the fact that Nigerian government is the one failing to live up to her constitutional obligation to accept to fix a date for a referendum and will cold bloodedly murder her citizens for demanding for a referendum which is part of their fundamental human right.

One effect the boycott will achieve if "absolute " will be to create power vacum. Another will be to help send messages to the global community who will in turn help pressure the Nigerian government to accept to fix a date for a referendum as they wouldn't want the menace a power vacum will create.

Finally you demanded I give you examples of people that achieved their freedom by boycotting elections. And my answer is this, if you go through history and see how different nations achieved their freedom and come to exist, you will observe that these different nations achieved their freedom in different ways . some of those ways includes through war, referendum or some judicial process. While the methods they employed differes, one thing that is common among them is that they were methods they deemed effective in their place and time and according to realities they confronted in those places.

In our own case, we will equally be seeking for our own freedom through methods that suits the realities obtainable in our plight. IPOB are peace loving people, we will not chose the option of war to gain our freedom from Nigeria, we go for the option of a referendum. And since the Nigerian government is adamant in giving us a date for a referendum, we will use every risk free, effective democratic means withing our limited reach to pressure the Nigerian government to give us a date for referendum. And boycotting the election is one of the most potent and 100% risk free means we can achieve that. If we boycott the election, we have everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose in our quest for freedom. Thank you.

Donelli:


I understand the point you're trying to make, but what you called election in Anambra State was more like allocation of numbers, that is one reason Obiano will not forgive IPOB. Don't take my word for it, find out from any of the inner circles. Do you know there was an agreement not to go to tribunal? Still, don't take my word for it.
I know you'll demand a binary answer, so NO, it did not but it caused some embarassment.

Bolded number 2, having understood these tendencies why do you think we should continue to bear these conditions?

Of the three methods you suggested, I can put it to you that you will be shooting yourself in the foot if you try 2 & 3 and I'll explain.

Method 1: I can assure you, Nigeria is on a crisis of leadership right now and there is international lobbying going on. Anti-IPOB elements should pray fervently that this Jibril issue does not end up being true.

Method 2: Political involvement has shown to be ineffective based on the current arrangement. Revolution? An opportunity to confirm the terrorist tag in addition to militancy. Don't forget, wild animalistic nature has no room for superior argument.

Method 3: Is this even legal

3 is legal if there is a crisis that calls for self preservation eg Fulani Herdsmen Terrorism, Military Coup, Ethnic Cleansing etc.


That's one option IPOB should also explore so that, if crisis like that erupts, we can then use those military techs to secure our sovereignty.

Donelli:

How many of them have argued enough to bring development to their constituencies? What are the chances of 2 zones against 4 in the national assembly...do you think it is possible to lobby senators from other regions to vote against the interest of their paymasters? Do you think our current style of democracy favors lobbying by superior argument as against bribery which is the order of the day? Do you think, without being in control of our resources, we have the financial muscle to match the rest of the federal government naira for naira? Assuming we are, will it not be a sin against Chukwu Okike Abiama to resort to thesame rottenness from whence He is pulling is out?

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I see.....
Then boycott and watch buhari sail to victory.
I hope by then u won't come up with another jubril part 2 propaganda to rubbish him.

The world suffers not because of the actions of evil people but because of the inactions of good people.

kanubiafra:
means it has not been confirmed right? but with evidences shown by kanu it 'may' be likely right? so who will do what if he is not the one ? don't get me wrong the only thing it will do is that it will boost kanu's reputation more and his credibility too. few people will go down for it and nigeria will go on yet no ref. a ref can only come when our allies speak up and they wont speak until there is a crisis. since python dance we have

You really understand the conditions(eg crisis) that stir up the international community to speak up for peaceful resolution through a Referendum.

Donelli, this is what Kanu should focus on(Create Crisis).

How do we secretly create a crisis that can stir up the international community to speak up and intervene.?

That is why I also advocate for secret development of Biafra military capacity to secure our sovereignty once the crisis erupts.

Donelli:

You have spoken well. Read the bolded again, pause, reflect on it.

You really believe there won't be crises...Who takes over the government?

There won't be a crisis because the powers that be has agreed to handover power to Atiku after compensating Buhari's family and silently killing Jubril to cover up.

Donelli:

Do you honestly believe it is your vote that count?

atleast in your area....why wait till you get biafra before doing anything....every state gets monthly allocations,were is the money of south east........??

whatmoreng:


I see.....
Then boycott and watch buhari sail to victory.
I hope by then u won't come up with another jubril part 2 propaganda to rubbish him.

The world suffers not because of the actions of evil people but because of the inactions of good people.

Before you begin to quote sages, you should know that waiting every four years to take action is not exactly taking action neither is it a smart move. We've been singing about revolution in our bathrooms but no action(s) taken. We don't even need to riot sef, if the over 60 million youths stay at home and decide to not vote, do you know the message would have been passed without a single word said?

Donelli:

We don't run a regional government as it is so this doesn't hold water.

in a degree,you already do...their are states that practice sharia in the north,did nigeria forced sharia on you too....??

they didnt....vote people that will stand for what you want in your region....

Warship:



3 is legal if there is a crisis that calls for self preservation eg Fulani Herdsmen Terrorism, Military Coup, Ethnic Cleansing etc.


That's one option IPOB should also explore so that, if crisis like that erupts, we can then use those military techs to secure our sovereignty.

You said IF.
I agree with you in any case, but is developing weapons legal even as a preemptive approach? It's one thing to acquire weapons, it's another thing to develop weapons.

Donelli:

When you say "your area" and "others", how then is it that we're in thesame mess of a country

i dont know....na you wan to be different than others....its impossible for everybody to be the same...i understand that...

some prefer mango,some prefer fish others hate pig meat....no big deal....

Warship:


There won't be a crisis because the powers that be has agreed to handover power to Atiku after compensating Buhari's family and silently killing Jubril to cover up.

Your head is there
The question is, will it be that straightforward?

Warship:


You really understand the conditions(eg crisis) that stir up the international community to speak up for peaceful resolution through a Referendum.

Donelli, this is what Kanu should focus on(Create Crisis).

How do we secretly create a crisis that can stir up the international community to speak up and intervene.?

That is why I also advocate for secret development of Biafra military capacity to secure our sovereignty once the crisis erupts.

You should also note that, in whatever crisis you intend to initiate, if Biafra is seen as the aggressor it does not exactly help our case

bantudra:


atleast in your area....why wait till you get biafra before doing anything....every state gets monthly allocations,were is the money of south east........??

Exactly why I don't think it's a good plan. Who pays the piper dictates the tune.

Donelli:

You said IF.
I agree with you in any case, but is developing weapons legal even as a preemptive approach? It's one thing to acquire weapons, it's another thing to develop weapons.

That is why I said secret development.

Biafra will come only after a crisis that can then stir up our international allies to speak up for us on the floor of the UN General Assembly and for Biafrans to hold out until UN intervention force steps foot on Nigeria to secure an environment for the Referendum, we have to secretly develop the military tech needed by our people to secure our territory until the appearance of UN envoy.


For Example:

If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.?

bantudra:


in a degree,you already do...their are states that practice sharia in the north,did nigeria forced sharia on you too....??

they didnt....vote people that will stand for what you want in your region....

I'm not sure I see the analogy between Biafra and sharia

Donelli:

You should also note that, in whatever crisis you intend to initiate, if Biafra is seen as the aggressor it does not exactly help our case

Biafra does not need to cause a CRISIS directly.

There are many ways crisis can be caused without attributing it to IPOB eg Fulani Terrorism.

So take note that Crisis Must Occur and that is why we must secretly build our military capacity to secure our territory while waiting for UN Envoy to conduct a Referendum.


Take Note:

If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.?

bantudra:


i dont know....na you wan to be different than others....its impossible for everybody to be the same...i understand that...

some prefer mango,some prefer fish others hate pig meat....no big deal....

The only reason they're fighting to keep Nigeria is because of oil. We don tell una say when una let us go, even say all man go carry their resources but the oil go still reach una. I wonder why una dey fear sef.

Warship:


That is why I said secret development.

Biafra will come only after a crisis that can then stir up our international allies to speak up for us on the floor of the UN General Assembly and for Biafrans to hold out until UN intervention force steps foot on Nigeria to secure an environment for the Referendum, we have to secretly develop the military tech needed by our people to secure our territory until the appearance of UN envoy.


For Example:

If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.?

Warship:



Biafra does not need to cause a CRISIS directly.

There are many ways crisis can be caused without attributing it to IPOB eg Fulani Terrorism.

So take note that Crisis Must Occur and that is why we must secretly build our military capacity to secure our territory while waiting for UN Envoy to conduct a Referendum.


Take Note:

If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.?

Hmmm...

You make sense sha, my concern is legality. As long as we don't give this corrupt government a legitimate platform to fight us.

Npfn:
why is buhari not campaigning for 2019 elections.

could it be that he has accepted his loss already or is he dead

We know you v been longing to see the wonderful and breathtaking campaign crowd like below again but wait !


It's coming to your doorstep more missivly this time, patient is the key just that APC/ Buhari is interested in good governance over show off .

We assure you won t be disappointed when it finally start.


PMB/ Osinbajo till 2023.

Donelli:

The only reason they're fighting to keep Nigeria is because of oil. We don tell una say when una let us go, even say all man go carry their resources but the oil go still reach una. I wonder why una dey fear sef.

oyel doesnt matter that much no more....oyel matter because its a steady income....the income is not that high no more,but its still a steady income till today....

Thanks to all of you who have been debating, and more importantly to those with contrary opinion from mine: those who think it's better we participate in the election than to boycott it. I appreciate.

Now let me tackle some of the issues you raised as to why we should vote.

One of the points you raised as to why we should not boycott the election is to "help vote out Buhari " this point while seeming to sound patriotic since Buhari has proven to be a national disaster, makes me think you guys somehow thinks we Biafrans are foolish people politically.

Four years ago when the mad man came on board, we told you people he will be a national disaster you refused to listen, called us hateful and inconsequential and went ahead to elect the most unworthy candidate of the lots to be our president. You wildly celebrated the victory of your choice over ours, but you never knew it was gonna be a Pyrrhic Victory.

Now he has brought sufferings and disgrace to you all, and you now want our vote to help vote him out. The answer is CAPITAL NO. we are not going to be part of any election to vote him out for the simple reason that we didn't vote him in. You guys did, so it's your exclusive responsibility to show him the way out. Even the Buhari himself openly acknowledged that we never voted for him when he made his famous 5% and 97% comment, and to your evil delight promised that he will treat us with contempt. Now it has downed on you people that we are not the only one feeling the brunt of his stupidity. Incompetence and bigotrism, you now want us to help on the rescue. We will not, if you know that 97% votes you gave him four years ago, just withdraw it and give it another candidate and he will lose. mathematically We will even be making the job easy for you by abcentending our 5% .

Helping to vote out Buhari is risky for we Biafrans. It will only deepen his hatred for us. and he can harm us with the remaining time he has to stay in power and when that start happening, the same you people who are here encouraging us to vote will be the ones laughing at us. Our mumu don do.

Donelli:

I'm not sure I see the analogy between Biafra and sharia

na you say regions are not indepedent...am just tellin you they are to a degree already independent and used sharia as an example....

if states were not realy indepedent a nation wide sharia law would have been implemented....