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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:28am On Dec 09, 2018 |
whatmoreng:How many of them have argued enough to bring development to their constituencies? What are the chances of 2 zones against 4 in the national assembly...do you think it is possible to lobby senators from other regions to vote against the interest of their paymasters? Do you think our current style of democracy favors lobbying by superior argument as against bribery which is the order of the day? Do you think, without being in control of our resources, we have the financial muscle to match the rest of the federal government naira for naira? Assuming we are, will it not be a sin against Chukwu Okike Abiama to resort to thesame rottenness from whence He is pulling is out? Questions Questions Questions... 3 Likes |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 10:30am On Dec 09, 2018 |
highcollide: btw,you are not going to get sympatizisers when you call nigeria a shithole.... nigeria may mean nothing to you but for others nigeria is dare to them.... 1 Like |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 10:46am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: Thank you bro, shalom. You took the world out off my mouth. I was about telling our brother kanubiafra the same thing until you said it. @ kanubiafra. Everything IPOB does is strategic and pre-mediated. There is always timing and proper planning to it. IPOB as you see it is far bigger than what has been made public. That is the mistake Nigerian government made and are still making about IPOB and their agitation. They erroneously thought IPOB is one small hungry organisation that startered with mere radio broadcast of Nnamdi kanu in London. IPOB is made up of some of the most educated, rich and well connected individuals both within and outside Nigeria, and backed by one of the most effective intelligence agency in the world. Those our brothers you see on the street who carry placards and stage protests are just foot soldiers in the struggle who do the open Sensitisation . IPOB as an organisation is much more bigger and more sophisticated than that. It is that sophisticated minds running and backing IPOB that made it so effective, consistent, well reputed before the international communities and several steps ahead of Nigeria government. So my bro chill, relax and follow events as they unfold. You will see the end. Besides don't you know it's more damaging for IPOB to expose such grand fraud that took place in aso rock than to even boycott the election. Even the Nigerian government are seriously wishing that IPOB will focus on their call for election boycott than expose jubril as an impostor. The election may not even hold if IPOB succeeds in establishing that the current occupant of aso rock is an impostor. The consequences , confusion and chaos it will create can only be better imagined. 3 Likes |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:51am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:Before you make the issue of being boastful a matter of contention, I ask, what exactly was the boast about...is it fact or fiction? SARS operatives boast about shooting people and nothing will happen... Politicians boast about rigging elections... Yorubas boast about being the most educated. So why is boasting now a problem... Or could it be inferiority complex Again, the talk about SS fighting the SE, total hogwash. One, we are not talking about the whole SS, only our Biafran lands and natives cut out to deflate the struggle. Two, the fear that has been planted in the hearts of many is that Igbos are dominating and all that, but ask yourself... When the Yorubas call you omo-ibo and the northerners call you iyanmirin, do they check your origin? When they begin their massacre in the north will they ask you to fill state of origin in an online poll? Our people in Asaba who were shouting one nigeria in the hope that the Nigerian army would spare them, what happened? Those who felt that sabotaging the struggle would spare their neck, are they better off? You shouting "leave SS out of referendum" e nor pain you say food wen you cook for your own backyard na another man come chop am? How has your oil benefited you...has it not presented more harm than good? Brotherly, meh we dey try talk well abeg 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:56am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:This is a FACT we must establish. Going the political way will NOT help us get Biafra. Nice one. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:57am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:When you say "your area" and "others", how then is it that we're in thesame mess of a country |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:58am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:We don't run a regional government as it is so this doesn't hold water. 1 Like |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 10:59am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:Do you honestly believe it is your vote that count? |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:01am On Dec 09, 2018 |
banom:We must continue... There are many of our friends and brothers genuinely concerned about this solemn movement but are dismayed by the drawbacks. We must encourage them time and time again. As for those whose sole aim is to troll and/or sow discord, I pray you find peace. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by MONIKERREVEALER: 11:03am On Dec 09, 2018 |
oyin44: unity because of oil beggar! 1 Like |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by demolinka(m): 11:05am On Dec 09, 2018 |
This referendum you profer, will it be in the south east or nation wide? And in the case the biafra concept scores a minority in the results, does it put paid to biafra? banom: |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 11:08am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: 3 is legal if there is a crisis that calls for self preservation eg Fulani Herdsmen Terrorism, Military Coup, Ethnic Cleansing etc. That's one option IPOB should also explore so that, if crisis like that erupts, we can then use those military techs to secure our sovereignty. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by whatmoreng: 11:09am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: I see..... Then boycott and watch buhari sail to victory. I hope by then u won't come up with another jubril part 2 propaganda to rubbish him. The world suffers not because of the actions of evil people but because of the inactions of good people. 1 Like |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 11:19am On Dec 09, 2018 |
kanubiafra: You really understand the conditions(eg crisis) that stir up the international community to speak up for peaceful resolution through a Referendum. Donelli, this is what Kanu should focus on(Create Crisis). How do we secretly create a crisis that can stir up the international community to speak up and intervene.? That is why I also advocate for secret development of Biafra military capacity to secure our sovereignty once the crisis erupts. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 11:22am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: There won't be a crisis because the powers that be has agreed to handover power to Atiku after compensating Buhari's family and silently killing Jubril to cover up. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 11:24am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: atleast in your area....why wait till you get biafra before doing anything....every state gets monthly allocations,were is the money of south east........?? |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:24am On Dec 09, 2018 |
whatmoreng:Before you begin to quote sages, you should know that waiting every four years to take action is not exactly taking action neither is it a smart move. We've been singing about revolution in our bathrooms but no action(s) taken. We don't even need to riot sef, if the over 60 million youths stay at home and decide to not vote, do you know the message would have been passed without a single word said? |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 11:26am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: in a degree,you already do...their are states that practice sharia in the north,did nigeria forced sharia on you too....?? they didnt....vote people that will stand for what you want in your region.... 2 Likes |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:29am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Warship:You said IF. I agree with you in any case, but is developing weapons legal even as a preemptive approach? It's one thing to acquire weapons, it's another thing to develop weapons. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 11:31am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: i dont know....na you wan to be different than others....its impossible for everybody to be the same...i understand that... some prefer mango,some prefer fish others hate pig meat....no big deal.... |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:33am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Warship:Your head is there The question is, will it be that straightforward? |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:34am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Warship:You should also note that, in whatever crisis you intend to initiate, if Biafra is seen as the aggressor it does not exactly help our case 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:36am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:Exactly why I don't think it's a good plan. Who pays the piper dictates the tune. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 11:36am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: That is why I said secret development. Biafra will come only after a crisis that can then stir up our international allies to speak up for us on the floor of the UN General Assembly and for Biafrans to hold out until UN intervention force steps foot on Nigeria to secure an environment for the Referendum, we have to secretly develop the military tech needed by our people to secure our territory until the appearance of UN envoy. For Example: If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.? 2 Likes |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:39am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:I'm not sure I see the analogy between Biafra and sharia |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 11:41am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: Biafra does not need to cause a CRISIS directly. There are many ways crisis can be caused without attributing it to IPOB eg Fulani Terrorism. So take note that Crisis Must Occur and that is why we must secretly build our military capacity to secure our territory while waiting for UN Envoy to conduct a Referendum. Take Note: If Asari Dokunbo never had the military capacity to extradite Kanu's family from Ibeku by now, Kanu would have been dead. Yes or No.? |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:43am On Dec 09, 2018 |
bantudra:The only reason they're fighting to keep Nigeria is because of oil. We don tell una say when una let us go, even say all man go carry their resources but the oil go still reach una. I wonder why una dey fear sef. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 11:47am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Warship: Warship:Hmmm... You make sense sha, my concern is legality. As long as we don't give this corrupt government a legitimate platform to fight us. |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by 77up(m): 11:48am On Dec 09, 2018 |
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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 11:52am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: oyel doesnt matter that much no more....oyel matter because its a steady income....the income is not that high no more,but its still a steady income till today.... 1 Like |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 11:55am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Thanks to all of you who have been debating, and more importantly to those with contrary opinion from mine: those who think it's better we participate in the election than to boycott it. I appreciate. Now let me tackle some of the issues you raised as to why we should vote. One of the points you raised as to why we should not boycott the election is to "help vote out Buhari " this point while seeming to sound patriotic since Buhari has proven to be a national disaster, makes me think you guys somehow thinks we Biafrans are foolish people politically. Four years ago when the mad man came on board, we told you people he will be a national disaster you refused to listen, called us hateful and inconsequential and went ahead to elect the most unworthy candidate of the lots to be our president. You wildly celebrated the victory of your choice over ours, but you never knew it was gonna be a Pyrrhic Victory. Now he has brought sufferings and disgrace to you all, and you now want our vote to help vote him out. The answer is CAPITAL NO. we are not going to be part of any election to vote him out for the simple reason that we didn't vote him in. You guys did, so it's your exclusive responsibility to show him the way out. Even the Buhari himself openly acknowledged that we never voted for him when he made his famous 5% and 97% comment, and to your evil delight promised that he will treat us with contempt. Now it has downed on you people that we are not the only one feeling the brunt of his stupidity. Incompetence and bigotrism, you now want us to help on the rescue. We will not, if you know that 97% votes you gave him four years ago, just withdraw it and give it another candidate and he will lose. mathematically We will even be making the job easy for you by abcentending our 5% . Helping to vote out Buhari is risky for we Biafrans. It will only deepen his hatred for us. and he can harm us with the remaining time he has to stay in power and when that start happening, the same you people who are here encouraging us to vote will be the ones laughing at us. Our mumu don do. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 11:56am On Dec 09, 2018 |
Donelli: na you say regions are not indepedent...am just tellin you they are to a degree already independent and used sharia as an example.... if states were not realy indepedent a nation wide sharia law would have been implemented.... |
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