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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 10:43am On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Don't mind the assumer/speculator. There are many lords and gods in heaven and earth. Father is the one God Jesus is the one Lord yet the speculator is saying father is the sovereign Lord. Doesn't it make the number 2 lords? whereas bible said one lord o and this one Lord is Jesus Christ. After this he will run away only to come back and tell us there are 2 gods and 2 lords in heaven and earth. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 10:45am On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: ... Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman: Proverbs 7:4 KJV So sister does not equate to women... ..stupid illiterates.. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 10:45am On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Shame no go let am answer. He will start moving from pillar to post with no answer. Then the next step is to muddle up verses still he will not answer the question because he knows his argument is filled with fallacies. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 10:47am On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Don't mind him. He thinks we gave our brain to 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men called governing body to think for us. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 10:48am On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: He will soon say sister and kinswoman is not sister and kinswoman in Hebrew. That it was a man they were talking of. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:17pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
achorladey:Everyone else worships with whom or amongst those they're pleased, Sir where do you worship presently? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:20pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman: Proverbs 7:4 So sister is not a woman right... .... wisdom is my sister, so Christ is my sister abi? ..stupid illiterate... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:24pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
[quote author=brodalokie post=73825396][/quote] Jesus is God... So Jesus cannot be an angel... You don't believe in the trinity but you believe Jesus is the Father, so what you are saying is the Father is Jesus, the Father came in flesh and that is Jesus...hmmm. I get you now..you see I understand.... but is that scripturally accurate, prove your point please Mr 1000 years |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:26pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel: ....that's why I say they are stupid illiterates. .. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:37pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
achorladey:Yes of course, i really really need help in that aspect. That's why i keep asking everyone to SHOW me the group of worshippers that are doing it right, all these stories are boring! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:37pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
L brodalokie: Who said the fall happened immediately after the 7th day? Scriptures please |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:42pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
EMIOMOADEOYE: My friend, if you won't contribute, kindly sit back and read... you think this is to win debate? Do you know how many people are being confused by this JW Cult? They lie to them, Make them accept their heresies because they obviously don't know the scriptures. We are here to expose them...So enjoy or contribute.. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:50pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
ResLight: So what's your point? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax:Yes! they're illiterates or uneducated or unlearned just like the first century Christians! Act 4:13 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:07pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Pagans |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:11pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
ResLight: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses Russell is the founder of Jehovah witnesses my friend....they can deny it. Hide from it or even run from it. The truth is Russell was their founder and because Russell made mistakes and said Jesus was God Almighty the watch tower quickly destroyed his books and said he was not a founder..stupid pagans.. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:17pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: no God is both male and female...stupid Pagan.. if God isn't male why was the first man created as male? In his image? Why did Jesus come as male... Why did God always appear as male? Why is He the Father and not Mother or both? Why when the Word became flesh it was man?... stupid . |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:25pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel: OneJ: zodiakzax: OneJ: Where two confirmed SERIAL LIARS on Nairaland with full blown MUMU VIRUS are cavorting with each other , TRUTH, OBJECTIVITY & COMMON SENSE TAKES FLIGHT. Sawdust brained zodiakzax & IBERIBEISTIC Arapunzel always HATE and FORBID the truth. BIrds of a feather always. flock together. Na their way. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:28pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: is that all you have to say? .... gerra de there my friend, wisdom is sister so wisdom is a she... ..e pain you die |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:29pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: Birds of the same feather.... ..you see how dumb you are... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:33pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Your education is useless to U & your society. Confirmed OLODO & SERIAL LIAR on Naira land. That's partly why your sawdust brain (coupled with your feeding on gospel junk from your pastorpreneurs) can't grasp the truth that JWs have been sharing on this thread. JWs are probably the best educated group of people on planet earth. Jehovah & His son, Jesus Christ teaches us to benefit ourselves with everlasting life in view. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:35pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
achorladey:If the "Jehovah's organization" members are ALLOWED to practice Galatians 5:19-21 Please why are they laying emphasis on it seriously in a study article of our watchtower? Let me give you a useful advice that will benefit you greatly. "if you're no more interested in Jehovah's Witnesses organization, no one is forcing you to stay, therefore you're free to go and join any other group that pleases you" When Apostle Paul was writing that letter to Christians in Galatia, he wasn't saying "he's sure that Christians are TOTALLY clean or free from all those practices"( Romans 7:21-23,1Corinthians 6:9-11,) rather he is reminding them the practices that Jehovah won't permit in HIS Kingdom. Of course Christians came from different races, cultures and backgrounds, so whatever each person's background permits out of all that's mentioned MUST BE DONE AWAY WITH meaning you should learn how to stop it or leave Christianity if you're not ready to stop it. 1Corinthians 5:9-13 Now there are many religious groups claiming Christians today,most of them aren't emphasizing the need for their members to stop those things, which religious group gives NO room for such practices? When JW organization condemns *National Anthems *Military services *Politics *Interfaith *Intermarriage between members and none members and so on amongst their members, other religious groups raised eyebrows. But a careful study of JWs magazines will help honesthearted persons to know that even though you knew very well the works of the flesh and wants to keep away from them, there are events or friendships that will definitely lead you into practicing them. 1Corinthians 15:33 Those are the things JWs condemns in our organization! 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 1:43pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax: I said it happened on the 7th day but after the fall his clock started ticking. Before the clock he was immortal. So from the point of fall till now is 6, 018 year which is to say we're in the early stages of 7, 000 years or 7th day. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:54pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax:That's exactly the problem all these other religious groups are having today! They stick to whatever their human founders dogmatically lay down as doctrines and they're never going to improve on it even if they discovered there are flaws. I've told you before that brother C.T. Russell wasn't the founder of this wonderful group, otherwise nobody would change what he laid down Correct or Incorrect. Jesus gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter, Peter committed lots and lots of blunders and when he is corrected even by someone like Paul who never walked with Jesus, Peter humbly welcomes reproof! Matthew 16:19,Matthew 26:69-75,Galatians 2:11-14 Peter also spread the rumor that John won't die until Jesus returns, it was after all the Apostles had died that God's Holy Spirit inspired John to include in his record of the gospel that Jesus never said so. John 21:20-23 Paul (who wasn't with the Apostles during the life and ministry of Jesus) founded many churches as he travels through the Mediterranean sea area,he was establishing what the Apostles laid down as principles and Peter commended Paul even after being shunned publicly by the same Paul. 2Peter 3:15 Please if you lived as a contemporary of these men, would you have agreed that God's Holy Spirit used them? Well that's the heritage of the worshippers of JEHOVAH. HE is not expecting perfection from them, HE is only interested in how imperfect descendants of Adam are willing to accept corrections! Psalms 103:14 God bless you Sir! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 2:11pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie: "thou being a man maketh thyself God" was a false allegations labeled against Jesus. Christ disagreed with that false allegation. "Jesus answered them,..... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said 'I am God's son?" John 10:34-36. The Jews NEVER understood Son of God as meaning God incarnate. In John 17:3, Jesus gives solid proof that he is not Jehovah in the New Testament. Is John 20:17,30,31 . Acts 3:12-15 hard for U to understand? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 2:27pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ:cc: brodalokie |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:28pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
zodiakzax:That's exactly what a mature JW will do. He is not saying you're wrong for what you're doing, he is only saying "JWs should concentrate on the WORKS that Jesus commissioned" since that is the only proof of those practicing Christianity! The same thing i've been trying to ask all of you to present another group that's PERFORMING. Maybe i'll have a sound reason to leave JW organisation, if i can see a better option! But instead of presenting something preferable, you're just condemning without showing or pointing or presenting else! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 2:32pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: In the Vatican you find a Latin inscription VICARIOUS FILII DEI which means in the place of the Son of God or God Incarnate. It is written on the throne and cap of the Maximum Pontiff popularly known as the Pope. The Jews from understood that Adam being the Son of God meant God incarnate. Jesus is a prototype of Adam according to the gospel of Paul. Anyone who is claiming to be in their stead is trying to play God even in the era of the Holy Spirit making us all children of the creator of heaven and earth. The Jews didn't take it likely when Jesus claimed to be the son of God because they knew he was saying He was God. However he could not directly say that because he was still here but after His resurrection He could now say I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending , THE ALMIGHTY - Revelation 1:8 Then he went ahead to warn about the beast and his images in Revelation 13 in relation to the the horsemen in Revelation 6 which we all know to be run by the AntiChrist or Anti-Jesus-being-God spirit |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:41pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Pharisees in the first century stopped performing as worshippers of Jehovah,because there are many rival groups until Jesus commissioned Christianity. So all those rival groups form alliance against Jesus' group (Christians). So it became obvious that the activities of those rival groups are diminishing and becoming futile as many people are now getting used to Christianity (the only Jewish group that's performing greatly as lovers of those in their neighborhood). I want to agree that JWs are fake, but won't it make sense if a PERFORMING group is presented to show honesthearted individuals that "this is how Christianity ought to be"? It's not just enough to make someone feel bad because he's remaining faithful and loyal to what he/she has been taught to believe, it's rather reasonable to direct, present, point or show him/her the best way to do what he/she thought he/she is doing right! The Pharisees are all out with rage to intimidate, criticize, prosecute, persecute and make the Christians feel worthless with all their unwavering faith in Jesus but NEVER ready to present, show, point or direct them to a better WAY to worship the true God. I don't want to believe that that's exactly what all you critics against Jehovah's Witnesses are doing right now! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 2:58pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: Who was His Father between God the Father and God the Holy Spirit? Matthew 1:18 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise : When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with CHILD of the Holy Ghost. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:08pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie:The title "GOD" is what caused all these arguments. But it could easily be resolved if we consider Psalms 82:1,6 There the scriptures said in verse 1 "GOD stand in the congregation of the mighty, HE judges amongst the Gods" verse 6 reads "I have said,you are Gods and all of you are the children of the most high". One word that took my attention is JUDGE. Why? Because according to Genesis chapter 3:4 5 there Satan told Eve that if they disregards God's orders "they will become Gods. This means they'll be in the position to determine what is good and bad or in other words they'll become "judges". So when Psalms 82:1 says God JUDGES amongst the Gods, surely those ones aren't supposed to be judges or Kings who will determine the fate of other intelligent creatures based on what they assume to be good or bad. That's why God said they will die just like others. Psalms 82:6 In conclusion Moses became God before Pharaoh and all his contemporaries to determine their fate,that of Pharaoh and all his(Pharaoh's) subjects as a JUDGE who will tell them what is good or bad. Exodus 7:1 Jesus became God before all those who will have everlasting life as a JUDGE who will tell them what is good and what is bad. Isaiah 11:1-5 compared to John 8:16 Both Moses and Jesus served as God to the glory of the Almighty who made them Gods and they're ever subjected to the One who elevated them to serve in that capacity! Deuteronomy 6:4 Mark 12:29 1Corinthians 15:20-28 God bless you Sir! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 3:15pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
OneJ: See frustration.lol You asked if God is really male so as to defend your assumption that wisdom is Jesus Christ. Do you know you are actually saying Jesus Christ is God? You think we are daft and are dummies right? You think you can just say anything you like. Bible addressed wisdom as a she, a sister and a kinswoman. I know you have a problem with it the truth is that you can never change what the Bible says. Wisdom is a girl/woman/female who cries at the city gate. Your jehovah didn't have wisdom till he created wisdom. 3 Likes |
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