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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:40pm On Dec 21, 2018
komekn:


In football your past exploits determine you future suitors most of the time.

You can give a thousand excuses, KC was simply not good enough for Man city.He was limited.

But that's past history now, as it stands it's very difficult to define what type of player he is. Striker, AM, SS, etc.

Leicester City have little money and have tried to modify and adapt thier expensive acquisition. But it's not working very well.

His goal return over the last two seasons is ABYSMAL who do you think will want to buy him now.

His best bet is to run out his contract because nobody will pay him big money for him on his current form. O don't think one EPL club would take him on now. He will probably get a championship club at best. Going abroad may be another option but on far less money than he's getting now.

Harsh reality



This is what most people here do not understand and this is how football is run. He has a contract till 2022 or so and if the buyback clause for Man City in the deal is 50M then the buyout clause in the contract will be nothing short of 70M. You don't just pick up and go on loan, the club has to be willing to pay something most of the time, out of a 70M buyout clause the club has to be willing to pay like 10M even if the loan deal does not eventually work out, as at this point in time absolutely nobody is going to pay that. If a player wants to move you almost always see an increase in performance from the player, chasing lost causes and even hitting his head squarely on the post if that means scoring a goal so suitors will take notice. Mendes is not Iheanacho:s agent, his agents do not have such power to just put him into a club and make the coach play him, it is up to him to improve so that teams will look for him. Besides there is no loan offer for him this January and except we will go through the remainder of the year blaming the Leicester system I believe he should just sit up

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:43pm On Dec 21, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


West Ham is above Leicester City on the table. It seems you have not been following the league lately.

Below is the current EPL table and also look at the gap between Leicester City and West Ham on the form table which follows.

Also keep in mind that West Ham is still adapting to the philosophy which resulted in four straight losses in the beginning of the season. If not, West Ham would be higher on the EPL table.

My bad, West Ham are two points above Leicester and that is because Leicester lost their last game and West Ham won theirs. So if Leicester wins their next game and West Ham draws that means Leicester will climb over them, so you see that the two clubs aren't far apart.

By the way where is the vacancy at West Ham? Carol, Chicarito, Hernandez and there are two other strikers there, there is no vacancy there Na

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:52pm On Dec 21, 2018
daveP:
Nawa o. iffai hear say any naija guy dey do like this after escaping the football atmosphere we have in this country. grin

Twont be long though. January is not far. Let him enter England first as rumored.

Who wan enter England ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:54pm On Dec 21, 2018
Mickael2:


My bad, West Ham are two points above Leicester and that is because Leicester lost their last game and West Ham won theirs. So if Leicester wins their next game and West Ham draws that means Leicester will climb over them, so you see that the two clubs aren't far apart.

By the way where is the vacancy at West Ham? Carol, Chicarito, Hernandez and there are two other strikers there, there is no vacancy there Na

Leicester cannot escape loosing their next game against Chelsea

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2018
komekn:


In football your past exploits determine you future suitors most of the time.

You can give a thousand excuses, KC was simply not good enough for Man city.He was limited.

But that's past history now, as it stands it's very difficult to define what type of player he is. Striker, AM, SS, etc.

Leicester City have little money and have tried to modify and adapt thier expensive acquisition. But it's not working very well.

His goal return over the last two seasons is ABYSMAL who do you think will want to buy him now.

His best bet is to run out his contract because nobody will pay him big money for him on his current form. O don't think one EPL club would take him on now. He will probably get a championship club at best. Going abroad may be another option but on far less money than he's getting now.

Harsh reality


Nobody will buy him but how did Lucas Perez of Arsenal ended up at westham after Arsenal nightmare ?

I can only agree that nobody will pay big money for him ,but for you to say no Epl team will buy him then you are saying nonsense and trying to be little the player

When judging a player be sincere okay ,if na waste man like Dominic iorfa or solanke you no go talk like this

Even wasteman solanke will get an Epl club let alone nacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:26pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


Nobody will buy him but how did Lucas Perez of Arsenal ended up at westham after Arsenal nightmare ?

I can only agree that nobody will pay big money for him ,but for you to say no Epl team will buy him then you are saying nonsense and trying to be little the player

When judging a player be sincere okay ,if na waste man like Dominic iorfa or solanke you no go talk like this

Even wasteman solanke will get an Epl club let alone nacho

Bros, read what he typed again, this time slowly and then modify this your comment and use it to wish us a happy new year

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:41pm On Dec 21, 2018
Mickael2:


Bros, read what he typed again, this time slowly and then modify this your comment and use it to wish us a happy new year

Lol

I don't need to re read it I picked the words I will reply from there

He said no Epl club can come for kc because he haven't been good enough and he said only championship at best .

I am giving him my reply and stating example with Lucas Perez situation when he was at Arsenal But he still managed to get an Epl team after the nightmare

So please tell me what's there to re read again or what should I modify?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:10pm On Dec 21, 2018
Sportilitica:
Maybe Nacho can go to westham
Not going to bench Arnautovic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


Lol

I don't need to re read it I picked the words I will reply from there

He said no Epl club can come for kc because he haven't been good enough and he said only championship at best .

I am giving him my reply and stating example with Lucas Perez situation when he was at Arsenal But he still managed to get an Epl team after the nightmare

So please tell me what's there to re read again or what should I modify?

Sir he clearly mentioned that nobody will pay big money for him and that is why no EPL club will come for him as at now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 3:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
TheGoodJoe:



As of now, there many clubs who play possession type of football, but i will mention a few.

ENGLAND:

Manchester City | Liverpool FC | Arsenal FC | Tottenham Hotspur

SPAIN:

FC Barcelona | Real Madrid | Sevilla FC | Real Sociedad

GERMANY:

Borussia Dortmund | FC Bayern | Bayer 04 Leverkusen | TSG 1899 Hoffenheim

ITALY:

Juventus | AS Roma | SSC Napoli | ACF Fiorentina

Some other clubs are

Inter Milan, Las Palmas, Nice, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, Celtic FC, Aberdeen FC, Porto FC, New york city FC.

The above mentioned team are having good ball possession and passing rate comparing to other clubs.

From Quora.

Some clubs in Belgium and France are even left out from the list.

And which of these clubs will buy an underperforming striker for 25M?.

Nacho is in a dilemma. He needs to leave Leicester, his value has fallen like an old woman's boobs, and Leicester wants thier money back.

Poor Nacho. Maybe we should organize a fundraiser to contribute the 25M to pay Leicester to let our super striker go try his luck elsewhere grin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
edi287:

Not going to bench Arnautovic.

There is also chicharito Lucas Perez and Andy caroll
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:23pm On Dec 21, 2018
Curtisaxel7:


And which of these clubs will buy an underperforming striker for 25M?.

Nacho is in a dilemma. He needs to leave Leicester, his value has fallen like an old woman's boobs, and Leicester wants thier money back.

Poor Nacho. Maybe we should organize a fundraiser to contribute the 25M to pay Leicester to let our super striker go try his luck elsewhere grin.

You are so happy as if you won a lottery ,just because a certain footballer is not playing well gives you so much joy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:25pm On Dec 21, 2018
Mickael2:


Sir he clearly mentioned that nobody will pay big money for him and that is why no EPL club will come for him as at now.

But I also agree no one will pay big sum for him ,abi is that the only thing he said ? Why is that the only thing you are picking point from ?

Didn't you see where he said he can only go to championship club ? Why are you skipping that side ? I gave him examples already

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 3:59pm On Dec 21, 2018
edi287:

Not going to bench Arnautovic.
Arnautovic will likely move this summer
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 4:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


You are so happy as if you won a lottery ,just because a certain footballer is not playing well gives you so much joy
I derive joy from speaking the truth. I dunno about you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:24pm On Dec 21, 2018
Curtisaxel7:

I derive joy from speaking the truth. I dunno about you.

You are mocking someone and thats bad of you

Take it or leave it,you know it deep down in your mind

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:40pm On Dec 21, 2018
Curtisaxel7:


And which of these clubs will buy an underperforming striker for 25M?.

Nacho is in a dilemma. He needs to leave Leicester, his value has fallen like an old woman's boobs, and Leicester wants thier money back.

Poor Nacho. Maybe we should organize a fundraiser to contribute the 25M to pay Leicester to let our super striker go try his luck elsewhere grin.

I said make a loan move to an offensive/possessive side. Boost his stats and then make a transfer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:43pm On Dec 21, 2018
Mickael2:


My bad, West Ham are two points above Leicester and that is because Leicester lost their last game and West Ham won theirs. So if Leicester wins their next game and West Ham draws that means Leicester will climb over them, so you see that the two clubs aren't far apart.

By the way where is the vacancy at West Ham? Carol, Chicarito, Hernandez and there are two other strikers there, there is no vacancy there Na

Chicarito is Hernandez. That is where I see room. Carol is not a perfect fit in terms of fluidity. He is getting few chances with Arnautovic's injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:47pm On Dec 21, 2018
Mickael2:


My bad, West Ham are two points above Leicester and that is because Leicester lost their last game and West Ham won theirs. So if Leicester wins their next game and West Ham draws that means Leicester will climb over them, so you see that the two clubs aren't far apart.

By the way where is the vacancy at West Ham? Carol, Chicarito, Hernandez and there are two other strikers there, there is no vacancy there Na

With Nacho fitting ideally into Pellegrini's system, having a history of Pellegrini preferring him over quality talents like Dzeko and Jovetic, he will stand a chance against the other strikers in the team. However, it is about Nacho making impact with the chances he will get.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:54pm On Dec 21, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


That is total bogus. We are talking about his relation with his team and u are taking style to attack the player. He sould shout because he is on the pitch and not on the bench. All u talk about is why a player is not good enough but I have never heard u come up with a solution.

When a player is outstanding sometimes he doesn't have to shout, that often.

Your team mates will look for you, because they believe you are the man with the answers.

For example Thierry H., JJay, both Ronaldo's, Messi, maybe that's too high up. Consider then Harry Kane, Salah and Mane, then let's lool lower Mitrovic at Fulham, Zaha, or further lower Tega Abrahams Aston Villa, Ebere Eze QPR, etc

Or in the case of Leicester city Maddison and Vardy.

Solution KC needs to adapt his game to reflect the team ethos and strategy he isn't in Manchester city anymore very simple. All good players adapt thier game to suit the teams they play for.

The pertinent question is, can KC adapt his game ❓ because if he doesn't then he isn't going upwards.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:59pm On Dec 21, 2018
Curtisaxel7:


And which of these clubs will buy an underperforming striker for 25M?.

Nacho is in a dilemma. He needs to leave Leicester, his value has fallen like an old woman's boobs, and Leicester wants thier money back.

Poor Nacho. Maybe we should organize a fundraiser to contribute the 25M to pay Leicester to let our super striker go try his luck elsewhere grin.

Dude you are murdering KC in cold blood you are a serial killer. Have some mercy.

Unfortunately KC will not be the first striker to have high transfer fee and flop.

The difference is that he did not have any long term foundation pedigree to anchor his career on. That can be used to give himself the benefit of doubt.

It's going to be very difficult for him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:03pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


Lol

I don't need to re read it I picked the words I will reply from there

He said no Epl club can come for kc because he haven't been good enough and he said only championship at best .

I am giving him my reply and stating example with Lucas Perez situation when he was at Arsenal But he still managed to get an Epl team after the nightmare

So please tell me what's there to re read again or what should I modify?

How many full season of football did Perez play before coming to Arsenal. How old is he now and how much did West Ham pay for him.

These questions tell there is BIG DISPARITY between Perez and KC.

Completely different situations.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:12pm On Dec 21, 2018
komekn:


Dude you are murdering KC in cold blood you are a serial killer. Have some mercy.

Unfortunately KC will not be the first striker to have high transfer fee and flop.

The difference is that he did not have any long term foundation pedigree to anchor his career on. That can be used to give himself the benefit of doubt.

It's going to be very difficult for him.

Top quality talents flop and bounce back. It is football. It was a wrong move to a silly system. It just take retracing his steps and then flourish.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:19pm On Dec 21, 2018
komekn:


How many full season of football did Perez play before coming to Arsenal. How old is he now and how much did West Ham pay for him.

These questions tell there is BIG DISPARITY between Perez and KC.

Completely different situations.

Clubs will not pay big money for KC i didnt argue about that.

But for you saying KC will lack permier league club,You lie bro......... BIG LIE

Perez that only played one full season at Deportivo La Coruña before he earned a move to arsenal

Lucas perez could not make atletico madrid B team but only the c team, lucas perez spend his years playing for second division spanish team and the ukranian league,lucas perez is 30 years old and has not even played up to 200 career games, make we leave matter

Christian benteke scored only 3 epl goals last season in about 33 games,tell me he wont get an epl team if he want to leave crystal palace

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:24pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


Nobody will buy him but how did Lucas Perez of Arsenal ended up at westham after Arsenal nightmare ?

I can only agree that nobody will pay big money for him ,but for you to say no Epl team will buy him then you are saying nonsense and trying to be little the player

When judging a player be sincere okay ,if na waste man like Dominic iorfa or solanke you no go talk like this

Even wasteman solanke will get an Epl club let alone nacho

First of all you have too look at the inherent attributes of the EPL and the type of player required to play as striker.

Once you move away from the top 6 teams in the EPL you are talking more physicality, speed and less technicality.

KC can not hold the ball up as a bonafide No. 9, do you agree❓ Trams in the mid and lower segment of the EPL are looking for a bonafide number 9. KC is not.

Add to that his goal rate will you agree over two seasons now is to be clear, ABYSMAL for a £25 million supposed striker. No bad belle just cold hard facts.

Solanke is at Liverpool with World class players ahead of him. He still considered good potential add to that his exploits for England U21. However, l doubt any club in the EPL will buy him to lead the line. He is essentially unproven but potential a big YES. Wasteman l do not think so.


Dominic Iorfa l am not sure how and why you Brough his name into the discourse.

I speak to quite a few people in football and none of them would buy KC to lead thier forward line irrespective of his price.

Fulham will not buy KC and they are bottom of the league. You buy a player that can improve your position. You buy players who are involved form.noy out of form for two seasons.

Bearing these permutations in mind, tell me which Championship club that is fighting to get into the EPL that will buy KC right now.

A player who is essentially anonymous in the EPL right now, will go into the physicality and intensity of the Championship where you have to fight for the ball and somehow Excel. I am sorry no bias or bad belle l can't see that happening.

I would like to see what you come up with.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:29pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:


Clubs will not pay big money for KC i didnt argue about that.

But for you saying KC will lack permier league club,You lie bro......... BIG LIE

Perez that only played one full season at Deportivo La Coruña before he earned a move to arsenal

Lucas perez could not make atletico madrid B team but only the c team, lucas perez spend his years playing for second division spanish team and the ukranian league,lucas perez is 30 years old and has not even played up to 200 career games, make we leave matter

Christian benteke scored only 3 epl goals last season in about 33 games,tell me he wont get an epl team if he want to leave crystal palace

100% Benteke will find open arms in Fulham, Brighton and possibly West Ham. Why because he is a true number 9 and he fits the profile and requirements that you need in the lower half of the EPL.

Benteke and KC are totally different players you are now becoming irrational and clutching at straws.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:29pm On Dec 21, 2018
TheGoodJoe:



As of now, there many clubs who play possession type of football, but i will mention a few.

ENGLAND:

Manchester City | Liverpool FC | Arsenal FC | Tottenham Hotspur

SPAIN:

FC Barcelona | Real Madrid | Sevilla FC | Real Sociedad

GERMANY:

Borussia Dortmund | FC Bayern | Bayer 04 Leverkusen | TSG 1899 Hoffenheim

ITALY:

Juventus | AS Roma | SSC Napoli | ACF Fiorentina

Some other clubs are

Inter Milan, Las Palmas, Nice, PSG, Lyon, Ajax, Celtic FC, Aberdeen FC, Porto FC, New york city FC.

The above mentioned team are having good ball possession and passing rate comparing to other clubs.

From Quora.

Some clubs in Belgium and France are even left out from the list.


So, you overlooked Chelsea who taught your Manchester city football, huh. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:32pm On Dec 21, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Top quality talents flop and bounce back. It is football. It was a wrong move to a silly system. It just take retracing his steps and then flourish.

I agree with you unreservedly.

Footballers live and die on thier careers decisions unfortunately. Some times you recover and sometimes you don't.

The harsh reality of football.

In my opinion he needs to find a mid table Bundesliga club to try and reignite his career. The EPL is not necessarily the right league for him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:33pm On Dec 21, 2018
andrew444:

Who wan enter England ?
Dembele. so i heard. Arsenal in pursuit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:38pm On Dec 21, 2018
forgiveness:



So, you overlooked Chelsea who taught your Manchester city football, huh. grin

The quote was made from a post before Sarri. By the way, Sarri plays good football in Chelsea but in the game against City we had 13 corners while Chelsea had 1. I doubt that counts as teaching us football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:39pm On Dec 21, 2018
komekn:


I agree with you unreservedly.

Footballers live and die on thier careers decisions unfortunately. Some times you recover and sometimes you don't.

The harsh reality of football.

In my opinion he needs to find a mid table Bundesliga club to try and reignite his career. The EPL is not necessarily the right league for him.

Nacho will recover.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Dec 21, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


The quote was made from a post before Sarri. By the way, Sarri plays good football in Chelsea but in the game against City we had 13 corners while Chelsea had 1. I doubt that counts as teaching us football.


Corner means nothing. Chelsea taught Manchester city football. 2 not 1 nut. grin

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