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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:50pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
TATIME: true christians say Jesus the Saviour of the World is God fake christians say Jesus the Saviour of the world is "a god"-"a angel" but keep on fooling yourself false jw tatime Jehovah Jesus is our Saviour: Isa_43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:52pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
false jw jano read carefully the following article, and if at the end of it you are still false jw, then you just love being part of satans mob |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:54pm On Jan 04, 2019 |
Does the Watchtower organization control the Jehovah's Witnesses' thinking? written by a christian Following are quotes from the literature of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society--better known as the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. After reading the quotes below, it is obvious that the Watchtower discourages individual thinking among the Jehovah's Witnesses and requires them to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organization. Romans 14:5 says, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." The Bible wants us to think and to be convinced in our own minds about issues that are debatable (Rom. 14:1-12). However, the Watchtower does not want its people to be convinced in their own minds. It wants them to submit to the Watchtower. 1./ The Bible can only be understood via the Watchtower organization. 1. Quote: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book," (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402). 2. Comment: This is an amazing quote. Only the Watchtower organization can properly interpret the Bible. It is saying that the Lord Jesus, through the Holy Spirit, cannot give a Christian a proper understanding of the Bible even though it is Jesus who opens the mind to understand Scripture (Luke 24:45). This effectively prevents the Jehovah's Witness from thinking and interpreting the Bible for himself apart from the Watchtower organization's guidance. 2./ Individuals are not able to rightly interpret the Bible apart from the Watchtower organization. 1. Quote: "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587). 2. Comment: The Watchtower restricts its followers from looking at the Bible by itself without the guidance of the organization's input. This is not freedom to think for oneself, and it is a sure way to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses intellectually in line with Watchtower teachings. 3. Also, contrast the quote above with the following quote from the Watchtower: "The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible," (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). The funny thing is that that is exactly what the Watchtower does. It claims to be the only source of true spiritual knowledge. 3./ If you don't understand something, meekly wait for the Watchtower to tell you what the truth is; otherwise, you are foolish. 1. Quote: "We should eat and digest and assimilate what is set before us, without shying away from parts of the food because it may not suit the fancy of our mental taste . . .We should meekly go along with the Lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food. Theocratic ones will appreciate the Lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to put against Jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings," (Watchtower, Feb. 1, 1952, p. 79-80). 2. Comment: Here, the Watchtower tells us that submission is to God's "theocratic organization," the Watchtower organization, and that submission must be complete and meek. Undoubtedly, this is clearly teaching that independent thought is not welcome in the Watchtower Organization. 4./ The Watchtower magazine is the means of God's communication. 1. Quote: "It should be expected that the Lord would have a means of communication to his people on the earth, and he has clearly shown that the magazine called The Watchtower is used for that purpose," (1939 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, p. 85). 2. Comment: This says that the Jehovah's Witness organization is the means God uses to communicate on earth today, but the Bible says that God speaks to us through His Son: Heb. 1:1-2 says it is Jesus: "God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." 5./ Cannot understand the Bible outside of the Watchtower organization. 1. Quote: "We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the 'faithful and discreet slave' organization," (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981). 2. Comment: The Jehovah's Witness organization has set itself up as the sole means of understanding the Bible. In contrast to this, Jesus opens the mind to understand the scriptures (Luke 24:45). It isn't the Watchtower organization that does this but God. Admittedly, we have denominational differences, but the differences are not in the essentials; and we certainly are able to understand those essentials apart from the Watchtower. 3. See CARM's article on the "Faithful and Discreet Slave," for clarification on this issue. 6./ Those who think apart from the Watchtower's guidance are like Satan. 1. Quote: "From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago . . " (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981). 2. Comment: So, if you think independently, find fault with something the Watchtower says, then you are like Satan. Is this freedom of thought? Is this how Christ works in the church? Hardly. 3. Also, what are the apostate doctrines spoken of in the above quote? Of course, that would be the Trinity, the deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit, the physical resurrection of Christ, etc.,--all things the Watchtower organization denies. So, if you read the Bible by itself, reading it for what it says and without the Watchtower guiding you, you will adopt these doctrines--which the Watchtower says are not true! 7./ If you love God, then you accept the Watchtower. 1. Quote: "We cannot claim to love God, yet deny his word and channel of communication," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 591). 2. Comment: In other words, if you love God, then you will be "in" the Watchtower organization. If you reject the organization, then you reject God. Amazing! So, the Jehovah's Witness is urged to not leave the organization lest they end up rejecting God. Is this encouraging freedom of thought? No. 8./ The truth of God can be known only through the Watchtower organization. 1. Quote: "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. 8]. 2. Comment: Here, the Watchtower states that the only way to understand God's word is through the Watchtower organization. In other words, your thinking must be in submission to the teaching of the Watchtower. These few quotes should be more than adequate to demonstrate that the Watchtower not only maintains a control over the thinking of its adherents but also actually discourages independent thought. This is definitely one of the signs of a cult. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:05am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Even a Child can understand the simple things of life-when the simplest things are explained, I said a Child-you are some what of age, and you still can't understand-maybe you should seek spiritual understanding-instead of the natural only, stupidity is always found within the Watchtower! TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:10am On Jan 05, 2019 |
brocab:EASILY UNDERSTOOD! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:11am On Jan 05, 2019 |
false jw tatime, all those pics most sect's are happy looking people they don't have to think for themselves they just happily go along doing what they are told to do |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:17am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Works without faith is dead, you have no understanding of the Word of God, if you understood it 'you would abide by it. I find people like you all the time, nasty people-not even the atheist would speak against Christ, as bad as you do. {Revelation 3:15-16} Jesus said: I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:00am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Jesus spoke parallels to the people-a natural common language everyone could understand, He knew people followed Him because they seen the miracles, they ate the food, the dead is risen, the sick are healed, the blind now see, the deaf now here. But Jesus spoke of another language to His disciples, not only in the natural' as He spoke around the crowds, but in Spirit' He spoke privately to His own disciples-teaching them the truth. We understand through knowledge how the bible was written, it was written by disciples filled with the Holy Spirit of God. Now we understand since the manuscripts were found, it was interpreted by bible scholars, professionals that studied the manuscripts, page after page, it took years to fully understand and interpreted the truth-upon facts' no man acting in the natural could have knowing the hidden secrets about God-without God Himself teaching them the truth. People found these manuscripts and brought them to the Vatican, where they were lost for another few Hundred years, the Vatican manipulated it against the people. Denominations start by people who believe to have some sort of a revelation from God, without even testing if this revelation lines up with the Word of God-people begin Churches through dreams or visions-sample-Joseph Smith believes he seen twins of God and Jesus standing together, and then he said Jesus is Michael the Archangel, the JW's also believe Jesus is the Angel, these both denominations rejected the bible began a Church and rewritten their own bible.. This is why it is important to test the Spirit-any other revelation, dreams or visions that don't line up with the Word of God are false prophets sent by Satan to destroy the true Church of God.. {Jude 1:9} Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” So if Michael was Jesus, Michael would have said: get behind Me Satan. {Jude 1:12} These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without water, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:34am On Jan 05, 2019 |
Everything was EASILY UNDERSTOOD! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 3:44pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
TATIME: Still waiting for the bible verse that mentions governing body |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by DisturbingGidi: 6:06pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
aprokomania: To correct your statement, we have a record of every member of The Jehovah’s witnesses organisation. So it’s easy to know how many witnesses we have in every country. These figures can help to determine those ratio. Tho I haven’t done my calculations to know if the OP was correct. But if he wants to find the ratio is very easy to do so. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
DisturbingGidi:It eludes their intellect that people making reports of all the activities done can EASILY know the the figure of those making the reports! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 10:33pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
Janosky: ...stupid pagan, so.you believe Jesus is another god beside God Almighty.. idiot... ..pagan man 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 11:29pm On Jan 05, 2019 |
johnw47: Trashy hogwash ! Fictional tale of johnw ,eminent plagiarist & Pharisee. Copy copy thief thief |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 12:09am On Jan 06, 2019 |
zodiakzax: "For even if there are so called gods whether in heaven or on earth" 1Cor 8:5 Educated illiterate zodiakzax, your bible says "gods exist in heaven", Jesus is a god in heaven, "who is at the Father's (Jehovah's) side" . "But not everyone knows this" 1cor 8:7. If u get mind, go comot am from your Bible na ! Educated illiterate zodiakzax & johnw Pharisee (plus their 3 "Gods" pagan worship crew) stubbornly refused to know it. Confused bunch of triune gods Pharisees. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 12:26am On Jan 06, 2019 |
brocab: Jesus says he would "SPIT OUT" brocab Pharisee plus his fellow Pharisees that are misleading gullible people with their "once saved , always saved" satanic theory. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:53am On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky: ha ha false accuser jano, you cannot stop lying, of course and you call the clear plain truth of the article lies, you just love being part of satans mob: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:55am On Jan 06, 2019 |
false jw jano, all you have in reply to truth is your bad mouth: Janosky: Janosky: Janosky: www.nairaland.com/attachments/8440575_5621995523838314505371444281075n_jpeg91088257eb46c4050680c4b4d34c1e4e |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 1:13am On Jan 06, 2019 |
johnw47: That's Johnw Pharisee speaking about himself & his fellow Pharisees who mislead gullible people that "once saved, always saved" whereas Jesus taught that "He who stands firm to the end will be saved" Matt 24:13. Jesus would "SPIT OUT" all Pharisees & your "once saved always saved satanic doctrine. Rev 3:14-16. Matt 5:20 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 1:19am On Jan 06, 2019 |
johnw47: God's word is speaking against johnw lying Pharisee. Every true Christian believes in the Bible's account of creation, but johnw lying Pharisee has copied & pasted pro atheist cartoon that rejected the Bible's account of God's creation. Johnw lying Pharisee is a fake Christian. Confirmed !!
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:43am On Jan 06, 2019 |
{Mark 7:6-9} He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. Do I need to say anything more? Janosky: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 4:37am On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky: ha ha false jw jano you cannot stop lying post after post day after day i have never taught once saved always saved, whether it be true or false? i haven't studied the subject he who stands firm in what? he who stands firm in his faith to the end, will be saved oh double duh false jw and it's very well known jano, that false jw's are the descendants of the pharisees triple duh |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 4:43am On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky: laugh, i though you confirmed it pages ago lying false jw jano your bad mouth does indeed show that you have lost the battle your lies and confusion jano of course comes from your god the devil: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. you just love being part of satans mob, having them tell you what to believe |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:57am On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky:All that life long story from an UNKNOWN Christian! Intelligent beings will never count on such a lengthy write~up from an UNKNOWN writer my brother. How can a sensible individual copy such a long story having NO name of the writer only to post it on social media for the public to believe. The Bible is God's word yet God instruct each writer to attach his name to the books written, so that you'll know the person who write the book hence realise the attribute in such a writer that made God to employ him. On the other hand Satan used a speechless serpent to push his own information so that nobody can trace the one who is speaking nor the attributes of the speaker. This is Terrence Howard's statement about God's people, he is a renown American actor that could be called upon ANYTIME to come and defend his statement in the public! So my brother,It's not how lengthy the write-up but how unique, precise and authentic! 1 Like
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:43am On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky: ..see how stupid you are.. 1cor 8:5 is what you quote, maybe you should have seeked advice form your pagan friends here before commenting... Let's look at the whole verse.. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and Lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 KJV ..stupid pagan.... unto us there's but One God and One Lord...... nowhere says that unto us there are two gods or two Lords.... there's no Lord and God besides Yahweh, all other so called lords and gods are fake..... so stop being stupid... there were smarter ones than you here who had to poo on themselves .... so again you are a stupid pagan who believes that we have two gods, one Almighty and the other mighty... both deserve worship anyways since they are both gods..... pagan.... ... John 1:1 is blasphemy in the NWT... stupid pagans... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 8:39pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
zodiakzax: Your Bible in 1 Cor 8:5,6 says "gods exist in heaven", Jesus is a god , he is one of the many gods in heaven. "There is none like you among the gods ,O Jehovah" Psalms 86:8 "To whom can you people liken me so that I should be made his equal?' says the. Holy One" (Jehovah). Isaiah 40:25 The Almighty God,the Father is Supreme, above all of the gods in heaven. zodiakzax can U, pls stop being stupid? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 9:01pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
johnw47: johnw47: johnw lying Pharisee continues doing what he knows best. Spreading falsehood & plagiarism. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 9:05pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 9:26pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky: So there are many gods in heaven and many lords in heaven right? So last last jehovah is not the only God in heaven then 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:32pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky:They thought the TRUTH won't cost them anything! When everyone knows that TRUTH is BITTER! At least even it comes free,are they willing to swallow it like Jesus' followers RELUCTANTLY did before they started getting used to it? Revelations 10:9,10 1 Like
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:55pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
Janosky:{1 Corinthians 8:5-6} For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords) --"If" there were so called gods, "Not" there "Is" so called god's in heaven or on earth! Even a Child can understand the simple things of life-when the simplest things are explained, I said a Child-you are some what of age, and you still can't understand-maybe you should seek spiritual understanding-instead of the natural only, stupidity is always found within the Watchtower! Janosky even Tatime understood how simple it really was to understand between the seed-maybe Tatime should be teaching you your beliefs.. TATIME:TATIME maybe you should be the one to explain it to your silly friend Janosky telling him there is only one God. The truth is-you deny is the Word of God, there's no other truth besides that, 'yes the Word comes free, but the Watchtower denies the Word so much they had forgotten, the begotten.. After everything we have been teaching you, and you still deny Jesus, the truth is, you don't know Jesus-and that is the truth, He will say to you, get away from Me, I never knew you! TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 10:54pm On Jan 06, 2019 |
johnw47:. https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?post=74397056 ("How can one witness to a Jehovah's witness?"(17) " ...Faith with out works is dead means that once saved we do good works, we do not do good works to be saved, we do good works because we are saved.... " saved Christians have a living faith,doing good works whether much or little" Johnw lying Pharisee possesses this special talent for Falsehood that would make the Devil envious. Janosky: johnw47:. https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?post=74397056 ("How can one witness to a Jehovah's witness?"(17) " ...Faith with out works is dead means that once saved we do good works, we do not do good works to be saved, we do good works because we are saved.... " saved Christians have a living faith,doing good works whether much or little" Johnw lying Pharisee possesses this special talent for Falsehood that would make the Devil envious. |
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