Deadlytruth:

You have not answered it. The disciples asked him for a literal meaning of the parable and in response he told them that the final destination of sinners is fire. He was no longer using figurative language to warrant the suggestion that he still meant a mere unconscious world of darkness with such clear statement.

Olodo Christian, the guy told you Yeshua compare it to darkness and mention gnashing of teeth along, is that too hard to grasp for you ?

Also in the Revelation 20, Jesus specifically described hell fire as a place of everlasting torment rather than a mere dark place of unconsciousness.

U are in soup
Where in Revelation 20.

Deadlytruth:


Mumu! Victim of Zombification. So humans records are more reliable than the Bible? Zombie! Zombie!!

Eeyah, no defence , indoctrinated boy . when u finally find the error, alert me

CAPTIVATOR:


Prove him wrong

Don't mind that silly boy, asking me to show him things that happen AFTER his bible has been written completely In that same Bible, does bible stretch to events after Jerusalem's fall ? . So stupid

Peacefullove:


Olodo Christian, the guy told you Yeshua compare it to darkness and mention gnashing of teeth along, is that too hard to grasp for you?

Zombified and remote control Christian whose brain has been looted, where did Jesus mention gnashing of teeth in his literal interpretation of the parable of wheat and tares? Mumu follow follow Christian.

Peacefullove:

U are in soup
Where in Revelation 20.

How would you know it is actually in the Bible when you have been programmed never to read it yourself but to wait for some 8 men in New York to read it on your behalf? It is in Revelations 20:10
Even your own NWT carries it as below:
10  And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast+ and the false prophet already were;+ and they will be tormented* day and night forever and ever.
I guess you'll now say false prophets don't have physical bodies and teeth? First class zombie!

Peacefullove:


Don't mind that silly boy, asking me to show him things that happen AFTER his bible has been written completely In that same Bible, does bible stretch to events after Jerusalem's fall ? . So stupid

Zombie! If the Bible didn't strench events to after the fall of Jerusalem, doesn't that tell you that the recording of post Jerusalem fall is not useful for the essence of the scriptures? Don't the Gospel writers themselves say that Jesus did many other things which are not recorded in their account thus signaling that the ones they recorded are just enough to pass their message about him? Human records are inconclusive and confusing hence can't be relied upon to substantiate the Bible.

Deadlytruth:

Zombified and remote control Christian whose brain has been looted, where did Jesus mention gnashing of teeth in his literal interpretation of the parable of wheat and tares? Mumu follow follow Christian.

I said you are stupid, What does Mathew 13 vs 42 says ?

U are in soup today, shebi I tell you

It is in Revelations 20:10
Even your own NWT carries it as below:
10  And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur [b] , where both the wild beast+ and the false prophet already were; [/b]and they will be tormented* day and night forever and ever.

I ask again: how can an imaginary beast be thrown into a real fire ? Satan is where this same beast is. Its important to know the beast and what happen to it then, as it would determine what this means.

Peacefullove:

Eeyah, no defence , indoctrinated boy . when u finally find the error, alert me

I sympathize with the Zombie of a publishing company. Learn to rely on the Bible alone.
Didn't human records initially claim that the earth was flat at a time when the Bible already recorded that it is spherical/geoid? If with this alone you can't see why you should do away with Encyclopedia as regards establishing the veracity of the scriptures, then you are the most miserable zombie on earth.

Deadlytruth:

Zombie! If the Bible didn't strench events to after the fall of Jerusalem, doesn't that tell you that the recording of post Jerusalem fall is not useful for the essence of the scriptures? Don't the Gospel writers themselves say that Jesus did many other things which are not recorded in their account thus signaling that the ones they recorded are just enough to pass their message about him? Human records are inconclusive and confusing hence can't be relied upon to substantiate the Bible.

This guy lacks sense
Where is your sense ? How can you compare what happen after your bible has been completed to an omitted unimportant information. One happen before Bible was written , the other happen after Bible has been written and all apostolic followers dead . What u need to do is tell me if those records are false . if you can't, u are a zombie, an ignorant champion

Peacefullove:


I said you are stupid, What does Mathew 13 vs 42 says ?

U are in soup today, shebi I tell you



I ask again: how can an imaginary beast be thrown into a real fire ? Satan is where this same beats is. Its important to know the beast and what happen to it then, as it wiuldr determine what this means.

And the false prophet is also imaginary, right? Satan is imaginary too, huh?
And how did you come to the conclusion that the beast is imaginary by the way? At least you have seen where Jesus Himself mentioned everlasting fire for hell.

Peacefullove:

This guy lacks sense
Where is your sense ? How can you compare what happen after your bible has been completed to an omitted unimportant information. One happen before Bible was written , the other happen after Bible has been written and all apostolic followers dead . What u need to do is tell me if those records are false . if you can't, u are a zombie, an ignorant champion

This alone shows you are a fool. Were those who recorded those post Apostolic era events said to be inspired by the Holy Spirit? Why do you think those records were not accepted as books of the Bible? Zombified slave of 8 New York manipulatators!

Peacefullove:


I said you are stupid, What does Mathew 13 vs 42 says ?

U are in soup today, shebi I tell you



I ask again: how can an imaginary beast be thrown into a real fire ? Satan is where this same beast is. Its important to know the beast and what happen to it then, as it would determine what this means.

As usual, you went to take out Matt. 13:42 in isolation as characteristic of your deceitful publishing company. Why not read the preceding verse to see the contextual meaning? According to verse 41, those to be thrown into fire to gnash their teeth are not spirits but sinners.
Look at it below, you fool and crafty demon:
41. the Son of Man will send out his angels to gather up out of his Kingdom all those who cause people to sin and all others who do evil things,

42. and they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where they will cry and gnash their teeth

Where did you see spirits mentioned there? Thief!

Deadlytruth:

And the false prophet is also imaginary, right? Satan is imaginary too, huh?
And how did you come to the conclusion that the beast is imaginary by the way?

u are too dull for my liking, Show me a beast with 2 heads first ?

At least you have seen where Jesus Himself mentioned everlasting fire for hell.

Everlasting fire destroy Sodom too, fire Is still there ?

I said u don't have sense

Deadlytruth:


This alone shows you are a fool. Were those who recorded those post Apostolic era events said to be inspired by the Holy Spirit? Why do you think those records were not accepted as books of the Bible? Zombified slave of 8 New York manipulatators!

Book of the Bible ? This guy is getting crazy tell me those events are FALSE , are they true ?

Deadlytruth:

And the false prophet is also imaginary, right? Satan is imaginary too, huh?
And how did you come to the conclusion that the beast is imaginary by the way? At least you have seen where Jesus Himself mentioned everlasting fire for hell.

Hmmmmmmmmm yes! As HELL was also cast into the LAKE OF FIRE. Revelations 20:14
So can we now conclude that HELL was later cast into another stronger HELL?
Well Jehovah's Witnesses are saying the LAKE OF FIRE symbolises TOTAL DESTRUCTION,that's why everything that wasn't in God's plan from the beginning was said to be cast there. And the writer concluded that the meaning of LAKE OF FIRE is SECOND DEATH.
So for now let's get the TRUE meaning as in PRACTICAL APPLICATION of that scripture,and forget about the meaning given by those eight old Newyorkers!

Deadlytruth

where did Jesus mention gnashing of teeth in his literal interpretation of the parable of wheat and tares?

Here is it.

Deadlytruth:


As usual, you went to take out Matt. 13:42 in isolation as characteristic of your deceitful publishing company. Why not read the preceding verse to see the contextual meaning? According to verse 41, those to be thrown into fire to gnash their teeth are not spirits but sinners.
Look at it below, you fool and crafty demon:
41. the Son of Man will send out his angels to gather up out of his Kingdom all those who cause people to sin and all others who do evil things,

42. and they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where they will cry and gnash their teeth

Where did you see spirits mentioned there? Thief!

Zombie .

Deadlytruth:


As usual, you went to take out Matt. 13:42 in isolation as characteristic of your deceitful publishing company. Why not read the preceding verse to see the contextual meaning? According to verse 41, those to be thrown into fire to gnash their teeth are not spirits but sinners.
Look at it below, you fool and crafty demon:
41. the Son of Man will send out his angels to gather up out of his Kingdom all those who cause people to sin and all others who do evil things,

42. and they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where they will cry and gnash their teeth

Where did you see spirits mentioned there? Thief!

At red
Am rolling in laughter, so in what form will this sinners be ? Flesh or spirit . Somebody should take note of this, as the whole hellfire empire is about to go down now

Peacefullove:


u are too dull for my liking, Show me a beast with 2 heads first ?


Everlasting fire destroy Sodom too, fire Is still there ?

I said u don't have sense

Look at this fool! You are rather the one too dull and gullible for my liking. Didn't the same Revelations explain in several other verses that the beast appellation is representative of actual human figures?
So the mere fact that it is described as having seven heads makes it automatically imaginary? You obviously failed literature hence you know zilch about imagery which could as well be used to describe real entities. Your education is a waste. And I ask you again; are the devil and false prophets also imaginary? Doesn't the Bible also describe them with imagery? My friend go and sleep if you have nothing to say. You are just yapping in defense of a publishing company's ever changing doctrines.
And like I have been saying and asking, will you continue sticking to what you are defending now by the time they later claim to have seen a brighter light hence adjust the current belief you are here killing yourself over?
In which verse does the Bible say that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by an everlasting fire? Thief!

Peacefullove:

At red
Am rolling in laughter, so in what form will this sinners be ? Flesh or spirit . Somebody should take note of this, as the whole hellfire empire is about to go down now

Of course you are laughing at your publishing company's false doctrines. Didn't that Revelations 20 also say that the dead shall be called out of the grave thus receive their bodies and then after judgement, the sinners among them would be cast into the lake of fire?
Learn to read the Bible as an integrated whole rather than picking the verses in isolation. Start bringing down the hell fire doctrine let's see na? Just like you predicted the end of the world against specific dates but got disgraced by their non-fulfilment. Is it such people that now claim they want to bring down another biblical truth?
A people who could later turn around tomorrow to, in the name of having seen a brighter light, accept the very beliefs they term demonic today want to bring down hell fire belief? I laugh in Swahili.

Deadlytruth:

Look at this fool! You are rather the one too dull and gullible for my liking. Didn't the same Revelations explain in several other verses that the beast appellation is representative of actual human figures?
So the mere fact that it is described as having seven heads makes it automatically imaginary? You obviously failed literature hence you know zilch about imagery which could as well be used to describe real entities. Your education is a waste. And I ask you again; are the devil and false prophets also imaginary? Doesn't the Bible also describe them with imagery?

You are confessing .
What does the lake of fire into which these 7 headed beast is thrown ALSO represent ? A representation cannot be thrown into something real . lake of fire must represent something different from its literal meaning too

In which verse does the Bible say that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by an everlasting fire? Thief!

Thief , when u haven't allow me proof ? Silly boy

Jude vs 6 , the fire burn forever nah

Deadlytruth

According to verse 41, those to be thrown into fire to gnash their teeth are not spirits but sinners.

At red
Am rolling in laughter, so in what form will this sinners be ? Flesh or spirit . Somebody should take note of this, as the whole hellfire empire is about to go down now

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm yes! As HELL was also cast into the LAKE OF FIRE. Revelations 20:14
So can we now conclude that HELL was later cast into another stronger HELL?
Well Jehovah's Witnesses are saying the LAKE OF FIRE symbolises TOTAL DESTRUCTION,that's why everything that wasn't in God's plan from the beginning was said to be cast there. And the writer concluded that the meaning of LAKE OF FIRE is SECOND DEATH.
So for now let's get the TRUE meaning as in PRACTICAL APPLICATION of that scripture,and forget about the meaning given by those eight old Newyorkers!

Death here is used metaphorically in reference to the devil. Check Hebrews 2:14 - 15, you'll see the clear interpretation of the devil as death.
So your eight New Yorkers are wrong again.

Peacefullove:


You are confessing .
What does the lake of fire into which these 7 headed beast is thrown ALSO represent ? A representation cannot be thrown into something real . lake of fire must represent something different from its literal meaning too



Thief , when u haven't allow me proof ? Silly boy

Jude vs 6 , the fire burn forever nah

I just laugh at your goalpost shifting.
So Jesus' description of his death and resurrection with the imagery of the Jerusalem Temple that He would pull down and rebuild on the third day means that his death and resurrection were not real life but imaginary?

As per Jude vs 6: it is really a pity that this is what you have been relying on in your boast to prove wrong the existence of hell fire!
First and foremost, it is verse 7 and not verse 6 as you would have us believe.
That said, so you didn't notice that the word "suffer" is in the present continuous tense and not past tense?
It means the people of Sodom and Gomorrah still suffer the eternal fire till now in the sense that their souls, after physical death,, are still being punished in fire just like that of the rich man.
Had it said "suffered" then you would have had a point.

Even KJV put it more directly. Look at it here:
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Hope you can see suffering there in present continuous tense?

When I said you failed comprehension in school you thought I insulted you. See yourself now? Dundee united. Olodo!

The earlier you abandon that publishing company you erroneously think is a church doing Christ's work, the better for you. Repent now and avoid the snare of hell fire. Stop following human laws cooked up from Encyclopediae and presented with crafty and sweet language that makes it appear as divinely insipred. You are under mind control. Beware!

Deadlytruth:


Death here is used metaphorically in reference to the devil. Check Hebrews 2:14 - 15, you'll see the clear interpretation of the devil as death.
So your eight New Yorkers are wrong again.

Oh no Sir i'm not asking about DEATH but HELL! I'm not contending with the meaning of DEATH Sir, so i'm sorry if my write~up is confusing. Please what is the meaning of HELL been cast into the LAKE OF FIRE?

MVLOX:


nice work bro........ this was a fine way of letting pple knw who we are......the comments really touched me.......

The comments are agreeable to all. I love them. Though I can't be one because of certain disagreement I have with some of their beliefs.

TATIME:
Oh no Sir i'm not asking about DEATH but HELL! I'm not contending with the meaning of DEATH Sir, so i'm sorry if my write~up is confusing. Please what is the meaning of HELL been cast into the LAKE OF FIRE?

If "lake of fire" means mere grave, and hell means Hades, as you and your fellow JWs have been claiming here, then how could hell (i.e. Hades another name for grave) have been cast into a grave... meaning grave was cast into a grave. Put in another way; a grave was buried in another grave. How possible? Clarify me on this first before I now give you a detailed explanation of the whole of that verse in the context of the whole chapter.

The verse in question says; "And death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire....."
Now, if lake of fire literally means second death as you would have us believe, then it would mean that whatever was going to be thrown into it had once died a first death. If, as seen in that verse, the world of the dead (Hades according to you) and death itself (i.e. the Devil as you agree) will experience a second death, then that definitely means they had undergone first death.... meaning that the grave and the devil once died and will die again. Please where is it therefore recorded in the Bible that the devil once died and all graves too once died literally?

Peacefullove:


You expect them to be split while the apostolic followers of Jesus himself are still alive? Shows how daft u are . They recognize the one leading of that time , after they all died and Jerusalem which is the headquarters of this apostles fall to the Romans. Christianity get splitted into groups. This Constantine reunited into Catholic church, are you a Catholic or Protestant ?

So you cannot still give the name of denomination early Christians belonged to? Lol
All these your assumptions no Bible verse to support it.
You dey force person to name e denomination yet you can't mention any in the Bible. Lol.

Peacefullove:

At red
Am rolling in laughter, so in what form will this sinners be ? Flesh or spirit . Somebody should take note of this, as the whole hellfire empire is about to go down now

Angels have foot and hand yet they are spirits. Jw will not kill me with laff oo

Peacefullove:


u are too dull for my liking, Show me a beast with 2 heads first ?


Everlasting fire destroy Sodom too, fire Is still there ?

I said u don't have sense

Bible verse of everlasting fire destroying Sodom too. Abi e no dey?

Peacefullove:


Don't mind that silly boy, asking me to show him things that happen AFTER his bible has been written completely In that same Bible, does bible stretch to events after Jerusalem's fall ? . So stupid

So you now turned yourself into speculator/assumer/finisher of the bible/story teller post bible times.

Peacefullove:


Olodo Christian, the guy told you Yeshua compare it to darkness and mention gnashing of teeth along, is that too hard to grasp for you ?


U are in soup
Where in Revelation 20.

Explain how a dead unconscious person in the grave will feel agony in fire.

Deadlytruth:


If "lake of fire" means mere grave, and hell means Hades, as you and your fellow JWs have been claiming here, then how could hell (i.e. Hades another name for grave) have been cast into a grave... meaning grave was cast into a grave. Put in another way; a grave was buried in another grave. How possible? Clarify me on this first before I now give you a detailed explanation of the whole of that verse in the context of the whole chapter.

The verse in question says; "And death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire....."
Now, if lake of fire literally means second death as you would have us believe, then it would mean that whatever was going to be thrown into it had once died a first death. If, as seen in that verse, the world of the dead (Hades according to you) and death itself (i.e. the Devil as you agree) will experience a second death, then that definitely means they had undergone first death.... meaning that the grave and the devil once died and will die again. Please where is it therefore recorded in the Bible that the devil once died and all graves too once died literally?

Hmmmmmmmm
Well you should have asked what JWs believe instead of this unwarranted assumptions.
For your information Jehovah has NEVER approved TORTURE even if such happens to be a criminal,Jehovah says "exterminate" as in kill or cut such person off from the living! Leviticus 17:10
So the LAKE OF FIRE means complete destruction. Adam died and returned to dust{Genesis 3:19} but his obedient descendants will have the privilege of been raised back to life. John 5:28,29
But PERSISTENT evildoers who refused to repent will join Adam in none existence,so DEATH,HELL{grave} and all evildoers including Satan and other falling angels will return to none existence. This is what the Bible refers to as the 'second death'.Revelations 20:14
The first death resulted from the inherited sin through Adam. Romans 5:12
The second death will only affect UNREPENTANT sinners,because Jesus' sacrificial death has paid the price to redeem us from Adamic sin{Psalm 49:7-10} but after resurrection into the new system any persistent sinner will die for his/her own sin! Revelations 20:12,13
So
*HELL{Sheol in Hebrew,Hades in Greek,simply means Grave}
*DEATH{return to none existence after last breath of a living soul but not yet permanent}
*LAKE OF FIRE{Jehovah's punishment on the permanent destination of unrepentant sinners}
Jehovah's final decision on DEATH,HELL and all evildoers is symbolised by LAKE OF FIRE.

CAPTIVATOR:


With whom do you congregate ? If you follow Kimmoms comment, U are either in a denomination or refuse to name yourself , that gives you the non denomination tag, but even non denomination groups are many and different in variety . so he asked which none denomination group are we talking about ?



No, Paul is not Sit at home, he is an associate member of the existing Christian group of the time known as " The way " . though circumstances forced him, he never forget his brothers. Who are your own brothers in your non denomination group ? Sit at home, someone who has no brothers with whom they congregate. Failure at Hebrew 10:24,25 .

CAPTIVATOR: With whom do you congregate?

Achorladey: Since you mentioned Hebrews 10:24,25. From the scriptures whom should I congregate with?

CAPTIVATOR: If you follow Kimmoms comment,

Achorladey: I don't even know your Mr. Kimmons, how do you want me to follow him, what you cited from wherever you have cited his comments or writings in relation with the discussion so far only tells me that you, you have indeed shown that the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are a denomination under the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION.

CAPTIVATOR: U are either in a denomination or refuse to name yourself

Achorladey: Is the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION a denomination? Will it be wrong to say I am a member of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION?

CAPTIVATOR: ,that gives you the non denomination tag,

Achorladey: Is that so?

CAPTIVATOR: but even non denomination groups are many and different in variety. so he asked which none denomination group are we talking about?

Achorladey: You mean Mr Kimmons asking which none denomination is that? It's something for you to worry about. I am not the one who cited Mr Kimmons work.



CAPTIVATOR: No, Paul is not Sit at home,

Achorladey: Is that so?

CAPTIVATOR? he is an ASSOCIATE MEMBER of the existing CHRISTIAN GROUP of the time known as " The way ".

Achorladey: How do you know that "THE WAY" are a CHRISTIAN GROUP. I just hope you get the connection here. CHRISTIAN GROUP!!!!!! You make me laugh.

CAPTIVATOR: though circumstances FORCED him,


Achorladey: FORCED him to become what?

CAPTIVATOR: he never FORGET his brothers.

Achorladey: why should he? and FORGETTING ones brother is restricted to "NOT ATTENDING MEETINGS". hmmmmmmm.

CAPTIVATOR: Who are your own brothers in your non denomination group?

Achorladey: Go back and respond to the question based on who JESUS called his brothers. And those JESUS called BROTHERS before the discussion got to this point, are THEY DENOMINATIONAL or NON DENOMINATIONAL?

CAPTIVATOR: Sit at home, someone WHO HAS NO BROTHERS with whom they CONGREGATE.

Achorladey: According to the mindset of someone that should CAPTIVATE others. Hmmmmm, it is still your assumptions anyway because I have shown you that PAUL indeed had a successful SIT AT HOME MINISTRY. Na you join your friend in citing SIT AT HOME MINISTRY, I showed you it's possibility from the scriptures.

CAPTIVATOR:Failure at Hebrew 10:24,25

achorladey: What conclusion do I expect you to bring out going round in circles with a PROGRAMMED mindsets. Restricting not FORGETTING brothers to MEETING ATTENDANCE. Christians are to MARK register at EVERYTHING MEETING to show that they are NOT FORGETTING brothers.Smh!!!!!