Jozzy4:

Is something wrong with you, he has given you the place he said so

Barristter07:


Your head is getting hot, you hijacked a conversation u can't handle. Now look at how you are stupidly embarrassing yourself asking for a verse that has been posted Many times here ?

Matt 10:28 both body and soul IN HELL

asalimpo:
@barristter07
@jozzy4
When you come back. Explain 1John20v25 .
Thomas said except i see the print of the nails (which nails? The one the Roman soldiers used) and put my finger into the print OF THE NAILS and thrust my hand into His side (pierced where? On the cross with a soldiers spear) .
So ... When God was fabricating the fake lookalike body? Did he fetch the nails the soldiers used or something similar to create an indentical sized holes in Jesus new body?
Then Jesus came into the room with the holes God pierced and told thomas to put his hands into THE PRINT OF THE NAILS (made by God) while thomas would all the while be assuming that those where manmade nail prints. What a phoney cruel deception to the perpetrated by God the Father and Son.
2) when thomas saw and was convinced and exclaimed,what was he believing he saw- the wounds the romans inflicted.

asalimpo:

he hasnt shown anything. Just twisting scriptures. Mayb u can help him out

asalimpo:

you are dumb and foolish,you cant interprete a simple verse correctly. How does the verse you have quoted translate into the warped claim you are making?
How?
So many illogicalities in your reasoning can b extracted from that verse. Your are publishing ur foolishness to the world.
How does that verse translate to ur claim

asalimpo:

where does it say, that at death, body and soul go to hell at the same TIME! you hav not shown that neither hav u made any point.

asalimpo:


YOU ARE the cause of your own ignorance. You hav to die on dry land to go to hell? All other avenues keeps ur soul with ur body so if u die in the sea. Your body rots nd dies but ur soul stay in the sea. This is what u are saying! Where dyu get this broken logic?
why do you assume that the soul has to be with the body AT DEATH?

asalimpo:

he hasnt shown anything. Just twisting scriptures . Mayb u can help him out

Maximus69:
If only you know what wonders spirit beings can do to suit any purpose of theirs! When Elijah had encounter with God,he[God] appeared in different forms and at last the Bible said God wasn't even in any of those things Elijah saw! 1King 19:11,12 Surely it is angels that God sent to do all of that[ Exodus 13:21 compare to 14:19]yet Elijah is hearing the voice of God!
So when you hear SPIRIT know that they can arrange anything as in ANYTHING to prove a point yet they only used such means purposefully because it's within their capability! Jesus is alive as a spirit being once again not as flesh but Thomas who has suffered all the humiliation and abuses for being with the Christ needed to be convinced so that he too could be bold enough to teach others about the resurrected Jesus!
So Jesus would do everything possible to strengthen his friend!
Regarding the resurrection of Jesus and his born again brothers Paul said 'they died and were buried in the flesh but resurrected in spirit form'! 1Corinthians 15:44-47
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you ooooo!

Maximus69:
If only you know what wonders spirit beings can do to suit any purpose of theirs! When Elijah had encounter with God,he[God] appeared in different forms and at last the Bible said God wasn't even in any of those things Elijah saw! 1King 19:11,12 Surely it is angels that God sent to do all of that[ Exodus 13:21 compare to 14:19]yet Elijah is hearing the voice of God!
So when you hear SPIRIT know that they can arrange anything as in ANYTHING to prove a point yet they only used such means purposefully because it's within their capability! Jesus is alive as a spirit being once again not as flesh but Thomas who has suffered all the humiliation and abuses for being with the Christ needed to be convinced so that he too could be bold enough to teach others about the resurrected Jesus!
So Jesus would do everything possible to strengthen his friend!
Regarding the resurrection of Jesus and his born again brothers Paul said 'they died and were buried in the flesh but resurrected in spirit form'! 1Corinthians 15:44-47
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you ooooo!

Jozzy4:

Sense you no get. Why did the rich man has Tongue which is a flesh and a part of human body ? Come and explain . according to Matthew 10:28 Body and soul are together and that story highlight it.

Your fake head cannot grasp simple logic

asalimpo:

let's get this straight. Jesus died, then within 3 days, as spirit&soul were in hell, God destroyed the original body that was wrapped in cloths. Then fashioned a new body, which looked like the original! Got a replica of the roman nails he,was nailed in. Used it to put holes in this new body. Went to the soldier who killed Jesus by stabbing his side with a spear. Borrowed the spear, stabbed this new fabricated body in this side. The borrowed the whip that was used to lash him. Lashed this new false body. Got a crown of torns, slammed it into the head of this mannikin. Got the exact nails-2 nails. Hammered his hands. Then,quickly replaced the old body with this, while Jesus spirit was in hell! Wow Wow Wow! Jesus arose in this body which was exactly like the old. Then appeared to thomas in it and asked him to in essence "see. See where the romans stabbed me (fat lie- He shouldav said where papa God stabbed me) . Put ur fingers in my side where the roman soldier stabbed me (fat lie- it's God that stabbed Him) ).
So God fashioned a body for Jesus twice? That's what you are saying.

God Himself broke scriptures which says- you shall not allow your holy one see corruption i.e the body of messiah will never decay/rot by obliterating it.

God broke scriptures because Jesus said destroy this temple,his body and in 3 days He would raise it up - the same temple. Not another temple.

You mean God acted like a sneaky thief,for what.

You mean Jesus tomb was visited supernaturally twice. But only one visit is recorded.
Why would God and the father go through this wasteful process. A redundant wasteful foolish and unwise process.
Why would God nd Jesus lie to thomas? Dude! Ur sick in ur mind to believe this nonsense. Damn,is this d junk they feed you! May God hav mercy on ur sick minds. This is so stupid it's unbelievable. Extremely stupid. It seems when satan wants to corn ppl,he sells d basest most mocking ridiculous lies to them. Mayb so that he'll mock them at what they believe.

Maximus69:
If only you know what wonders spirit beings can do to suit any purpose of theirs! When Elijah had encounter with God,he[God] appeared in different forms and at last the Bible said God wasn't even in any of those things Elijah saw! 1King 19:11,12 Surely it is angels that God sent to do all of that[ Exodus 13:21 compare to 14:19]yet Elijah is hearing the voice of God!
So when you hear SPIRIT know that they can arrange anything as in ANYTHING to prove a point yet they only used such means purposefully because it's within their capability! Jesus is alive as a spirit being once again not as flesh but Thomas who has suffered all the humiliation and abuses for being with the Christ needed to be convinced so that he too could be bold enough to teach others about the resurrected Jesus!
So Jesus would do everything possible to strengthen his friend!
Regarding the resurrection of Jesus and his born again brothers Paul said 'they died and were buried in the flesh but resurrected in spirit form'! 1Corinthians 15:44-47
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you ooooo!

asalimpo:

So Jesus and God would lie? Is this what you are saying?

Maximus69:
It has not come to abuses and insults Sir,you believed what your teachers taught you and i believed what my teachers taught me. Twice in a week i carry my bag and load it with the NWT and Watchtower publications to go preaching and teaching,and guess what, i'm already conducting a Bible study with another newly interested person who often calls me 'my Pastor' though i tried to correct that impression but he's so amazed at what he is learning!
Perhaps you too should go and prove yourself fit enough for this wonderful task because i'm enjoying every bit of it as i speak convincingly from the heart not just the common dogmatic teachings of all religions but the TRUTH that's been hidden from many for sooooooo long!
If you truly belong to Jesus,you don't need insulting anybody Sir. Jesus 'searched for the lost sheep of the house of Israel' not stubborn goats who already thought they knows all. So instead of cursing,abusing or insulting people who wouldn't take to your doctrines,why not just take them for goats and move ahead in search of the SHEEP just like Jesus did? If truthfully you're one of his disciples!

OLAADEGBU:
www.livingwaters.com

"How can one witness to a Jehovah's Witness? They know so much about the bible and even revered Jesus but they don't believe that Jesus is God." Rocio Soto

I make it a habit not to try and convince a Jehovah's Witness that Jesus is God in human form. There are two reasons for this.

The first is that they have their own version of the Bible that removes references to the true nature of Jesus.

Second, when Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say that I am?" Jesus said to him that flesh and blood hadn't revealed that truth to him, but "my Father who is in Heaven." God is the one who reveals who Jesus is, so I leave that up to Him.

So you have two insurmountable hurdles if you argue doctrine with a JW. They move the goalposts, and they are spiritually blind.

The key to unlocking the door to them is to identify the real issue.

That issue is that JW's are a works righteousness religion. You can uncover this by saying, "There's a knife in my back and I have three minutes to live. What should I do to enter the Kingdom?" It's then that you will discover that they are trusting in works for their salvation rather than in the grace of God through Jesus Christ.

So you have to put them up the River Niagara without a paddle.

Strip them of their false hope. No one will be saved through good works or by being religious. The way to do that is to take them through the spiritual nature of God's Law (the Ten Commandments). Then share the biblical gospel with them--that we are saved by grace through faith alone (without works), and pray that God opens their eyes to the truth.

Once they are truly born again they will leave the Jehovah's Witnesses and become witness of Jesus Christ:

"But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and YOU SHALL BE WITNESS TO ME in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth" Acts 1:8, caps added)

If you don't know how to go through God's Law watch www.NoahTheMovie.com (1.2 million views).

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 11 May 2014

Maximus69:
Anyhow you put it but i know Jesus told his disciples that there are many things he wish to teach them but they can't grasp all at a time!
So suit yourself Sir!

Maximus69:
If only you know what wonders spirit beings can do to suit any purpose of theirs! When Elijah had encounter with God,he[God] appeared in different forms and at last the Bible said God wasn't even in any of those things Elijah saw! 1King 19:11,12 Surely it is angels that God sent to do all of that[ Exodus 13:21 compare to 14:19]yet Elijah is hearing the voice of God!
So when you hear SPIRIT know that they can arrange anything as in ANYTHING to prove a point yet they only used such means purposefully because it's within their capability! Jesus is alive as a spirit being once again not as flesh but Thomas who has suffered all the humiliation and abuses for being with the Christ needed to be convinced so that he too could be bold enough to teach others about the resurrected Jesus!
So Jesus would do everything possible to strengthen his friend!
Regarding the resurrection of Jesus and his born again brothers Paul said 'they died and were buried in the flesh but resurrected in spirit form'! 1Corinthians 15:44-47
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you ooooo!

asalimpo:

mister answer the question. Did Jesus and God LIE? Did they fabricate a scam to decieve thomas into believing the wrong thing? answer categorically. Dont say something evasive like anyhow you put it.

Emusan:


Just imagine, now for you to defend your lies, you have to attribute the power of God to Angel...yet you people will say God isn't omnipotent...now you are here claiming a Spirit can do ANYTHING.

Liars everywhere....yet when Jesus appeared to them the Bible recorded it that the disciples THOUGHT they have seen SPIRIT but how did Jesus convince them that what they saw isn't actually SPIRIT? The Bible also provided answer when Jesus said.. "But because they were terrified and frightened, they imagined that they were seeing a spirit. So he said to them: “Why are you troubled, and why have doubts come up in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you see that I have.” Luke 24:37-39 NWT

It's only a liar and dishonest person that will read such from the scripture and concluded that Jesus lied to his disciples and deceived them.

Anyway, you people are trained to defend your organization not seeking the truth...nevertheless we'll be hitting you people with the truth of the scripture until Jesus comes.

Maximus69:
Great! I love that spirit Sir!
So go and help your neighbours to grasp what you believe because JWs are always in the neighbourhood,that's how they got me. Therefore hurry up in order to reach more people than the JWs do,no dispute over this Sir.
Tatime said 'The world powers have passed a law that there is FREEDOM of speech,expression and worship' I worked with the military intelligence and i can testify to that. The sky is wide enough for all the birds to fly so the JWs aren't stopping your evangelism neither can your folks stop their peaceful,preaching and teaching program no matter what you call it!

asalimpo:

who is God? A spirit right. Yet God sees hears talks etc. An angel,a spirit being,rolled away (used his hands,spiritual object) the stone of the tomb. Are u so daft to not know that the spirit form of the richman, had the senses of the body? Can see hear remember and feel pain? Or you've been brainwashed to think spirit means immaterial

asalimpo:

let's get this straight. Jesus died, then within 3 days, as spirit&soul were in hell, God destroyed the original body that was wrapped in cloths. Then fashioned a new body, which looked like the original! Got a replica of the roman nails he,was nailed in. Used it to put holes in this new body. Went to the soldier who killed Jesus by stabbing his side with a spear. Borrowed the spear, stabbed this new fabricated body in this side. The borrowed the whip that was used to lash him. Lashed this new false body. Got a crown of torns, slammed it into the head of this mannikin. Got the exact nails-2 nails. Hammered his hands. Then,quickly replaced the old body with this, while Jesus spirit was in hell! Wow Wow Wow! Jesus arose in this body which was exactly like the old. Then appeared to thomas in it and asked him to in essence "see. See where the romans stabbed me (fat lie- He shouldav said where papa God stabbed me) . Put ur fingers in my side where the roman soldier stabbed me (fat lie- it's God that stabbed Him) ).
So God fashioned a body for Jesus twice? That's what you are saying.

God Himself broke scriptures which says- you shall not allow your holy one see corruption i.e the body of messiah will never decay/rot by obliterating it.

God broke scriptures because Jesus said destroy this temple,his body and in 3 days He would raise it up - the same temple. Not another temple.

You mean God acted like a sneaky thief,for what.

You mean Jesus tomb was visited supernaturally twice. But only one visit is recorded.
Why would God and the father go through this wasteful process. A redundant wasteful foolish and unwise process.
Why would God nd Jesus lie to thomas? Dude! Ur sick in ur mind to believe this nonsense. Damn,is this d junk they feed you! May God hav mercy on ur sick minds. This is so stupid it's unbelievable. Extremely stupid. It seems when satan wants to corn ppl,he sells d basest most mocking ridiculous lies to them. Mayb so that he'll mock them at what they believe.

Jozzy4:


Noooo, Sea will release body and soul , but hell will release only soul Lolzzzzzzz. If somebody die in the sea, they won't go to hell so their soul will be in the sea

Don't kill me with laff

Some souls are trapped in the sea I guess . dont mind that bold liar .

Jozzy4:

Its a stupid person that would believe Jesus was raised with a body dishonored with wound and scars . it was sown in dishonor and raised in GLORY . says the scripture. You bible twister Mr hell is lake of fire is telling us he was raised in Dishonor

Jozzy4:


Its a stupid person that would believe Jesus was raised with a body dishonored with wound and scars . it was sown in dishonor and raised in GLORY . says the scripture. You bible twister Mr hell is lake of fire is telling us he was raised in Dishonor

Barristter07:


Some souls are trapped in the sea I guess . dont mind that bold liar .

Barristter07:


Some souls are trapped in the sea I guess . dont mind that bold liar .

asalimpo:

when die, your soul nd spirit combine and go either to heaven or hell. Your body stays on earth. Simple logic. Your soul cannot b in ur body and you die-physically . It has to depart for d body to die. Physcal death,is simply the departure of the soul nd spirit from the body. Please, hav sense. These are abc things.

asalimpo:

it is theology that is warping ur mind. That tells u that the soul dies with d body.