Jesse25:
It a very big scam the country it self is not even ready for enginee, our university have no facilities to teach engineering .....I have a diploma in engineering and up till now I can not even figure what I gain in school because they was no practical to what we where be thought in school ...the people I pity most are mechanical engineering student because Nigerian are not ready for one single engineering course talkless of mechanical eng. For me am going to computer science I can't come and waist my time again the only way I can study engineering is when I have the chance to school outside of this country

sweetilicious:
I quite agree with you Op.How can someone that studied biology become an operational tech in my company? Some electrical engineer graduates are marketers.I weep each time.Well,after your 5years of B.sc un Nigeria,move to Australia.There is a job for engineers there.

jesmond3945:
you would need those thories someday. No knowledge is a waste. Talking of design, we see Nigerians who design cars but no encouragement to develop it further. Even here on nairaland we see people even mocking them, would Asians mock their brothers who are trying to engineer creative products? My argument is to defend the universities who you seem to blame for not doing enough but you forget that this is a problem of failure in leadership. The Asians who are designing the cars by innoson were living in the dark after the second world war. They understudied the americans, were able to learn technology and replicate same. Look at Innoson, can he send Nigerians to China to understudy and learn how to design cars? Of course he won't. He only cares about money and fame. So don't blame the universities but blame the political class.

CodeTemplar:


4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles.

Dothraki:
read my article very well brother, when you go on internship, you work as a maintenance engineer. Nigeria graduate does nothing other than to ensure that machine run smoothly.. when they need engineers to modify existing design or change the system, these companies hire foreigners...
Most of the design team of innoson motors are Asians..

Nigeria system give us ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance to actually practise what we have learned. What is the point of acquiring so much theories if we are never going to use it. Isn't that a mockery of ourself?

Dothraki:
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

ifada123:
The knowledge we get from electrical engineering is very practical, the problem is that you can't see materials to work with in making designs that will make you innovative as those in the western world (I made a foot detector foot match immediately I graduated, it was not pleasing to the yes,no material to work with no machinery for finishing),
In engineering you are supposed to be taught the basic principles and you as an engineer will think on what to invent with it,
Engineering is not meant to copy, as an average Nigerian engineer want it to be,
They prefer you teach then how the I iPhone X max was design and let them make it, rather than learn how telephone, integrated circutry, displays, cells,and design, allong with order basic needed knowledge,
That was why one richdad ask me to go and make robot rather than learning about circle, when the robot become faulty I will be lost in the ocean.
I don't see Nigeria improving in technology soon.
Why
(1) the supposed theorem we don't even understand it in in-depth
(2) that is the way the lecturer were taught.
(3) for the few engineer that understand it they don't have materials to implement it

ifada123:
Engineering is not meant to copy, as an average Nigerian engineer want it to be,
They prefer you teach then how the I iPhone X max was design and let them make it, rather than learn how telephone, integrated circutry, displays, cells,and design, allong with order basic needed knowledge,

jantavanta:
Going elsewhere to study and return has not proven to be the solution. Many people return to be useless. The older generation lecturers where sent to choice institutions of learning abroad, but that did not solve the problem.

An engineering curriculum that teaches Africans that everything discovered (or discoverable) was by one white man or the other has a negative psychological effect on our ability to develop.

There is no civil engineering text book that teaches that it was Africans that built the pyramids of Egypt.

How can Pythagoras, who travelled from Greece to Africa to further his education turn out to be the discoverer of a theorem of a triangle, when the biggest known triangles where the basis of the Pyramids of Egypt, thousands of years before he came there to study?

The name "Chemistry" is derived from "Chem" or "Kermit" another ancient name for Africa. Why do all our chemistry text books, from Physical Chemistry to Organic Chemistry, teach that all discoveries where from white people?

algebra is from Al-jabr
alkaline is from Alkali (don't you have a friend called Alkali?)

It was Africans, called Moors (not Arabs)who crossed into Europe through Spain in AD 711 and established the first European universities. Fine, their language was Arabic and their religion had become Muslim. But the knowledge was African and not Arab.

Before we go abroad to study we should find out more about who we really are, so that we do not advance in self-rejection.

For over 2,000 years we have been transferring science & technology from Africa to Europe. No text book will tell us, because our schools are for the purpose of economic colonialism. If you are locally educated to produce Iron and steel and design cars, how will expatriates (or colonial master returnees) have the opportunity to come and pack your dollars?

Nigeria's Ajaokuta Steel Plant can produce the best Steel from our "sweet" Iron Ore in Itakpe, that is why it was masterminded not to be completed so that it does not disturb the "world market".

These are some key challenges facing the Nigerian engineering graduate.

Knowledge of Self is the starting point.

ifada123:
Engineering is not meant to copy, as an average Nigerian engineer want it to be,
They prefer you teach then how the I iPhone X max was design and let them make it, rather than learn how telephone, integrated circutry, displays, cells,and design, allong with order basic needed knowledge,

ifada123:
Engineering is not meant to copy, as an average Nigerian engineer want it to be,
They prefer you teach then how the I iPhone X max was design and let them make it, rather than learn how telephone, integrated circutry, displays, cells,and design, allong with order basic needed knowledge,

Dothraki:
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

Marlhyk:
You are truely right,and no employment is another thing that makes 90% of students today to lose focus in their studies.In order to resolve the issue,i would advice that students should browse foreign engineering textbooks online which is the internet and try to use their knowledge to their advantage.

freemanbubble:


Bros i pity you. Nor try am. Nor make that move
Bros am a computer science student in Uniben
Na everyday i take dey dull the more because we are subjected to old programming language such as Pascal and Fortran

My Pascal D
Fortran D
Assembly language F

Bros i don tire
And the worse part be say we go still dey do many maths

No practical

But last las sha i know say i go dey alright because nor be only school person for take succeed for life

wirinet:

The problem goes beyond the selfish and lazy attitude from students, it also extent to the selfish and lazy attitude of the whole society - politicians, lecturers, parents, everybody but a very select few.
Our educational system is designed towards passing exams and looking for administrative jobs. Forget the engineering tag, most Nigerian engineers are trained to be administrators, and hence search for banking and government jobs after graduation. The educational curriculum is not design to help solve problems within the society.
I remember in my youth days, my friend and I used to make simple short wave and FM radio circuits. When I discussed with an electronics and engineering graduate about the topic, he said I was speaking Greek. That they never really worked with simple transistors not to talk of logic gates.
Today, undergraduates have no excuse not to know how to apply theories to build practical things. The Internet has open up a whole new world. The pity is that student only know how to use the Internet to Facebook, social media and watch porn. During my time, I had to sleep in libraries to get valuable info on how things work.
Google Taylor Wilson. The boy learnt though the Internet how to build nuclear reactors and built his first reactor by age 15. He is a celebrity today at age 19. At 17 Obama offered him a job. He refused saying he would prefer to sell his knowledge and reactors to government instead of working for them. He never went to the university, meanwhile we have PHD engineering graduates carrying their certificates up and down looking for administrative jobs.

CodeTemplar:
1. To start with, Engineering is largely design oriented and not building or development as people like to claim.

2. The Nigerian University system is set up to produce research focused or academic focused graduates and most practical Knowledge we ignorantly ask for from the university system is suppose to be acquired in polytechnics and Tech Colleges.

3. Your lecturers too were taught theories and don't expect them to teach you practicals even if they put in extra effort to get the practical knowledge they posses themselves.

4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles.

concho:
got admitted into federal uni in 2013 to study my dream course (engineering)
. Was best in department after first yr .
Found out i was scammed in second yr.
My high school lab was better than our uni workshop.
My high school teachers better than our lecturers .
Dropped out in 2nd yr (2015) with my #20, 000 in savings.
was rejected by friends n family .
Today am happy with 6 figures monthly .

MyGeneration:
The worst scam is banking and finance.

CodeTemplar:
1. [s]To start with, Engineering is largely design oriented and not building or development as people like to claim.

2. The Nigerian University system is set up to produce research focused or academic focused graduates and most practical Knowledge we ignorantly ask for from the university system is suppose to be acquired in polytechnics and Tech Colleges.

3. Your lecturers too were taught theories and don't expect them to teach you practicals even if they put in extra effort to get the practical knowledge they posses themselves.

4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles[/s].

uuzba:

The solution to No Employment is to MAKE employment.

Remember that this country already imports 90% of what we need, there isn't much demand for manufacturing. And as a result. Not much demand for Engineers to monitor to manufacturing.

You don't want to just be practicing Engineering.
What you want is to Earn money.