vezycash:



Simple english. All their knowledge was useless before americans brought factories over. On the topic of factories, how many factories do they have in Shenzhen alone, not to talk of the whole china. As for their math skill, they had the same math ability before Americans came over and that didn't help them produce anything.

As for photocopying range rover, if I gave covenant university + OAU + Unilag + Uniben five good years, they wouldn't be able to do the same thing.

just imagine what you are spewing, where is the evidence that their knowledge was useless? Do you know that maths is the language of theories? Without maths how can their be any engineering? Go and look at the R& department of all the blue chip companies and tell them that they don't need maths or theories to produce anything they would call you a fool and idiot. Get education bro
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China

I studied civil engineering, you are very correct. Big scam.

eminemkayc:
For someone who has put in over fifteen years practicing core engineering design and applied mathematical principles in solving a vast array of structural statics, dynamics ,impusive and geotechnic engineering problems, I completely disagree with the notion as presented in the opening remarks. I was trained in nigeria and Iv applied all I was taught as an undergraduate in the design of bridges, water retaining structures, slope stabilization, understanding of soil consolidation beneath foundations of high rise structures, modelling of finite elements in the undstanding of soil particle and pile interactions in STAAD spring selections etc iv used newton's finite divided difference methods in topographic survey to predict ground elevation on non-chainage points where i was to situate and design foundations for piperacks for proper levelling, iv thoroghly employed calculus in the calulation and simulation of irregular waves and current loads on shore protection and berthing structures by numerical idealization, applied lagrange interpolation polynomial methods in the design of Larssen sheet piles in order to determine the min depth of pile penetration for stability beneath proposed dredged points, applied bernouli's equations severally and various expressions for head losses in steady state pipeline flow on projects to determine pressure drops and pump sizing requirements, reynold's number for hydrocarbon fluid composition etc. The list is ENDLESS...I was trained in nigeria and by nigerian lecturers and there are brilliant nigerians trained in nigeria as well. What is lacking is the exposure and the inability of most lecturers to solve practical problems on one hand and bridge this glaring gap during lectures making it difficult for the students to see a correlation. But these are the same mathematical and engineering principles the russians and asians used and are using in the design of complicated weapon systems. The Iranians are following suit as iv interfaced with a number of them on projects. Fields such as partial differential equations and ordinary differential equations are EXTENSIVELY deployed in structural and mechanical engineering in the explanation of the behavior of sytems under static or dynamic.loading. flow tru soils, one dimensional consolidation and settlement prediction of soil strata, deflection of structural elements, buckling analysis and determination of effective lengths in steel designs etc are all mathematical and highly applicable in the field of engineering.

weldone sir
I am impressed by your prowess and your writeup is inspiring, what you said is true for civil engineering but i have NEVER heard a mechanical engineers saying the same.
VAST MAJORITY of Nigeria graduate will never go back to mth 201 or use those mathematical principle to solve anything.
I never said they are useless

Without the implementation of all these knowledge there is absolutely no need to fill up your head with it.
If i will never develop any form of heat system, why spend years learning thermodynamics ?

Dothraki:
please go back and read my article. The system is fvcked up.
It is impossible for anyone to implement anything. University or polytechnic
You get put so much theories to your head your brain will discard everything since you are not taught how to implent it.

Its like pouring water to a basket, the moment you finish exam, everything is gone in your head..
An average graduate does not remember anything, what is the point of learning if you are going to forget it all at the end of the day?
People that think like you are Nigerian problem.
There is need to reform the educational system in nigeria..
We are not even talking about making innovation..
Lets just be copying what developed nation are doing.. let us be manufacturing substandard phones, tv and all. One day we will get there..just like china did.

There is need for reformation. How can anyone defend the old and outdated stuffs we learn in Nigerian universities.....

You are part of Nigerias problem. Honestly

Hello bro, Honestly you connect with me. I understand you 100percent. How can we talk on whatsapp please?

RealBadBoy:

Honestly, u are the problem of Nigeria. The theories you are taught here is the same thing obtainable in any universities worldwide. I'm an Engineer & I'll be sincere ...many Nigerian students are lazy probably because of poverty or perhaps the urge for instant gratification(flexing & yahoo). they don't want to learn. As a matter of fact, they want to be spoon fed. Go back to those theories u so hate & start looking at them if u av forgotten because u need alot of them if u want to be an engineer

instead of coming here to rain abuse, why not tell us what you have used your engineering theories to do
What have you designed so far?
Which theories have you applied to solve any practical problem?

If you cannot give me a valid response to this
Then its safe to assume that you are a big idiot

Saintly01:
I studied civil engineering, you are very correct. Big scam.

U are the scam ursef & u are not a civil engineer. CIVIL engineering principles taught in Nigeria are same everywhere in the world. If u claim u are a civil engineer can u state first principle in design? Of course u can't, because u were flexing in school. Better go back and learn.. u are a lazy Nigerian. Engineer is nt road mechanic or brick layer oga.. u need those theories u
are taught..... Alot of it

femarse:


why i strongly disagree with you on the point that the theory knowledge is a scam
I agree with you on the Chinese method , for decades the Chinese did not learn any theory, they learn engineering exactly the way u describe it over there , it is the reason why for decades and till now there are plenty plenty fake product all come from none other than China , and because the Chinese does not understand the theoretical aspect that made up the product , the product don't usually last and always fail very quickly , however overtime the Chinese has gone Back to drawing board and are now master of the theory themselves , thou first learning the practical gives them an edge , as u can see there are plenty smart led tv on jumia costing a fraction of the same size lg or Samsung ... same with phones , u will even see a nameless Chinese phone with a dam 32 gig internal memory for fraction of it's price

while practical has made China a haven for tech developments theory ha made USA and EUROPE paradise for tech developments , look at Nokia (former Nokia in the days of java and symbian) they are rock solid product from finland in Europe , and other american product HP , DELL, APPLE , MICROSOFT, IBM , INTEL, AMD TEXAS INSTRUMENT ,their rise to success is theory not practical , however following the american way is a very tough problem

the same Pascal and fortran and assembly language u were been thought now as a computer science student is same that bill gate and Larry page and Steve job were thought , they added C and C++ to it , JAVA was not taught in American University until the 21st century meaning that those guys learn it on their own and use it to do something great like Android apps and enterprise application,

they use C and C++ to develop operating system all from the student ingenuity and not something that was taught in school

why the same is hard to replicate in Nigeria is the bad leadership and economic condition

I assure you if bill gate was worrying about what to eat , where to charge his laptop, how to have access to a computer , electric light to read and practice his idea instead of candle , there is high chance we will not have Microsoft window today

simply put , the Nigeria student has so much to worry about that leaving very little of his brain to worry about innovation

the economy and the leadership is the problem not the theory
if u can afford a laptop without breaking bank or suffering for the next three month , afford internet connection , no electrical worries , as student , u should have given us African version of Google

I agree with you that Nigerian students have a lot to worry about. However, about the fake products thing - NO.

Japan was the China of the world - i.e. they made fake, substandard products until Japan embraced the teachings of this guy Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Dr. Deming was an american who thought quality control. Americans were okay with their quality levels and didn't listen to him but the Japanese guys welcomed him with open arms and the result?

Quality improved, costs dropped and Made in Japan became a symbol of quality. This man didn't teach them engineering. He didn't teach them how to make products. No. He taught them how to control quality of the products coming out of their factories.

After Japs started kicking American companies butts, they went over to japan to learn from them. And there where Motorola learned its Six Sigma quality control methods.

The same thing happens with china. It takes a while to copy something. Same way it takes a while for a barber, a tailor to learn how to make good clothing. China doesn't care about quality mainly because it increases costs of production. In fact, for factories producing high-cost items, their quality is awesome. Now, however, the chinese government has stepped in to promote made in china.

It's all on the internet. Here's an intro to quality control: https://www.newcastlesys.com/blog/an-introduction-to-quality-control-in-manufacturing

In summary. Quality products come from a dedication to improving manufacturing processes - things like testing components before use, using clean machines, raw materials... and not lack of theory.

UPDATE

I just read the excerpt of the book - Poorly Made in China

Poorly Made in China reveals industry secrets, including the dangerous practice of quality fade—the DELIBERATE and secret habit of Chinese manufacturers to widen profit margins through the reduction of quality inputs. ... savvy Chinese suppliers feel they have little to lose by placing consumer safety at risk for the sake of greater profit.

https://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-Production/dp/0470928077

So there you have it. It's intentional - not theory, not their ability to produce quality goods. Just pure profit seeking.

MyGeneration:

Don't o. Just pray

I actually know it's a scam tho, buh I'm happy 'cause it's Unilag buh if na any other university ni ..I for don japa

It's a scam. They promise to make you an Engineer: a professional well-trained to apply scientific principles, in innovative ways, to solve problems and promote sustainable development. They collect your money and waste your time (at least 5years) and make you a mediocre theorist (the theory they teach is outdated) and a clueless "Engineer" in title only. Like a roaring lion on paper. A paper tiger.

Is it the fault of the Lecturers? Never! Engineering is expensive. Not fucking cheap like studying classics or philosophy. I'm a practicing Engineer and I've had the privilege to work with Americans, Europeans and Asians. The shocking truth is Engineering Training in the real sense of it exists only in few countries: United States, Germany, France, Japan and Russia. When you study engineering outside these countries, you will not get the real thing. Now, observe that some great European and Asian countries didn't even make my shortlist. So why are you expecting anything less than a scam in Nigeria?

The truth is, our Universities have no business running an Engineering faculty and pretending to be carrying out research. Bogus research. Israel just crashed a 36billion naira spacecraft. And their Prime Minister promised to try again in the next 3years. That's Engineering research. Can we afford that? You never chop, you dey ask for Red Label.

Engineering is fucking expensive. So all you'll get from a Nigerian (or any African) University is a mediocre degree at best. That's why you have to re-certify to practice outside Africa.

If you are studying Engineering presently or planning to, just endure the rubbish you are being taught and try to graduate with 2:1. While studying the rubbish, hit the streets and get your hands dirty with practicals. Buy scrap machines, hack and reverse-engineer, set up a laboratory at home, try to design stuff, build systems, get your fingers burnt, burn down buildings in your experiments, refuse defeat, fail and try again and again and again until you succeed. That's how to become an ENGINEER!

bayelsaowei:
youre right but not completely.. there are other organizations that provides opportunity for nigerians to show case their engineering skills in design, modification and even innovation. I think the problem is organizational.. innoson should ensure capacity building of indegenes in every way possible and push them into solving engineering problems..

That guy is completely right, I did IT in one of Nigeria refinery, all the engineers do is maintenance, when it comes to design they send their specifications to China or German to manufactur.

Dothraki:
instrad of coming here to rain abuse, why not tell us what you have used your engineering theories to do
What have you designed so far?
Which theories have you applied to solve any practical problem?

If you cannot give me a valid response to this
Then its safe to assume that you are a big idiot

I wonder how u gained admission to even read engineering. Engineering is not all about design u dimwit. Engineer design, maintain, construct, plan, supervise etc... Design is a bit shaky in Nigeria but believe me we still design. Don't sit in ur room to rubbish a profession basing from ur own laziness & inability to comprehend its principles. In abroad, u will be taught same thing we're taught here. Wen u get a job, u will laugh at ur post because ur school taught u the principles u will actually needed for the job but u were too busy chasing small girls around in school.

CodeTemplar:
1. To start with, Engineering is largely design oriented and not building or development as people like to claim.

2. The Nigerian University system is set up to produce research focused or academic focused graduates and most practical Knowledge we ignorantly ask for from the university system is suppose to be acquired in polytechnics and Tech Colleges.

3. Your lecturers too were taught theories and don't expect them to teach you practicals even if they put in extra effort to get the practical knowledge they posses themselves.

4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles.

I'm not at all into engineering. I do agree with your point on universities are focused on theory and not practical. But even so.... I would agree with the OP that basically an engineering graduate is nowhere near up to date with today's international best practices...... the basic reason why foreigners are employed.
From my own observations... regarding buildings.... whatever branch of engineering that is... I noticed multi storeyed buildings being demolished ... and erected. The ones built in the earlier part of the 1900's.... were framed in iron... top to bottom... iron beams...uprights ..etc... that was the engineering design of that time. Now... they frame maybe the first three storeys max in iron... then they be going up the next 50 plus floors.... no iron works. If the universities are not on this page.... and trying to move forward to the next... then the university programme is a waste of time.... stuck in the past.

jesmond3945:
just imagine what you are spewing, where is the evidence that their knowledge was useless? Do you know that maths is the language of theories? Without maths how can their be any engineering? Go and look at the R& department of all the blue chip companies and tell them that they don't need maths or theories to produce anything they would call you a fool and idiot. Get education bro
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China

Much of what is in the link you posted happened in the 7th and 17th century. Did you even read it?

I wrote about how over 60 million people died of hunger in China (1958 – 1961) and you glossed over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China


And no, they weren't caused by Natural disasters but by their own government - a product of their own education system.

jesmond3945:
Get education bro

Any educated person who reads my comments will know that I'm well educated. As for yours...

RealBadBoy:

I wonder how u gained admission to even read engineering. Engineering is not all about design u dimwit. Engineer design, maintain, construct, plan, supervise etc... Design is a bit shaky in Nigeria but believe me we still design. Don't sit in ur room to rubbish a profession basing from ur own laziness & inability to comprehend its principles. In abroad, u will be taught same thing we're taught here. Wen u get a job, u will laugh at ur post because ur school taught u the principles u will actually needed for the job but u were too busy chasing small girls around in school.

you keep proving my point
If i remember corectly, 80-90% of university curricula is focused on design, thats why we do so much heavy mathematics. I find it funny when you guys replace it with jargons like supervising, plan, etc
Any fool can do that, you dont need university degree to plan or supervise. Our primary goal of going to school is to implement what we have learned

You just proved me right

Peace bro

freemanbubble:


Bros i pity you. Nor try am. Nor make that move
Bros am a computer science student in Uniben
Na everyday i take dey dull the more because we are subjected to old programming language such as Pascal and Fortran

My Pascal D
Fortran D
Assembly language F

Bros i don tire
And the worse part be say we go still dey do many maths

No practical

But last las sha i know say i go dey alright because nor be only school person fit take succeed for life

Wake up bro. You are in a gold mine BUT if you continue in this mentality, u will not make it. Computer Science is a very very very good and highly selling course

Xbursta:


True i also have diploma in same course after i finish my two years program i felt like wasted my time am applying for DE to study cyber security

Cybersecurity in Nigeria? Studying IT in Nigeria is a waste of time.

maishai:


A computer engineer that can build you a digital wristwatch is a great computer engineer.......Lets all stop getting Engineering confused with Technology.......Engineering deal with first principles while Technology deals with the art..............The difference betweena Nokia 3310 and an Iphone X engineering wise is little but Technology wise there is a Quantum lot

Are you still in 2015? Are you trying to tell me that engineers are still producing 2015 tech?

Engineering and technology goes hand in hand, we learn everyday and we try to get better at what we do too.

Dothraki:
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

Guy im an engineering grauate A consultant.ALL i read in school im 150% using them.either u studied engineering to pass or u were forced.for me it pays me well.im not govt staff eida

eminemkayc:
For someone who has put in over fifteen years practicing core engineering design and applied mathematical principles in solving a vast array of structural statics, dynamics ,impusive and geotechnic engineering problems, I completely disagree with the notion as presented in the opening remarks. I was trained in nigeria and Iv applied all I was taught as an undergraduate in the design of bridges, water retaining structures, slope stabilization, understanding of soil consolidation beneath foundations of high rise structures, modelling of finite elements in the undstanding of soil particle and pile interactions in STAAD spring selections etc iv used newton's finite divided difference methods in topographic survey to predict ground elevation on non-chainage points where i was to situate and design foundations for piperacks for proper levelling, iv thoroghly employed calculus in the calulation and simulation of irregular waves and current loads on shore protection and berthing structures by numerical idealization, applied lagrange interpolation polynomial methods in the design of Larssen sheet piles in order to determine the min depth of pile penetration for stability beneath proposed dredged points, applied bernouli's equations severally and various expressions for head losses in steady state pipeline flow on projects to determine pressure drops and pump sizing requirements, reynold's number for hydrocarbon fluid composition etc. The list is ENDLESS...I was trained in nigeria and by nigerian lecturers and there are brilliant nigerians trained in nigeria as well. What is lacking is the exposure and the inability of most lecturers to solve practical problems on one hand and bridge this glaring gap during lectures making it difficult for the students to see a correlation. But these are the same mathematical and engineering principles the russians and asians used and are using in the design of complicated weapon systems. The Iranians are following suit as iv interfaced with a number of them on projects. Fields such as partial differential equations and ordinary differential equations are EXTENSIVELY deployed in structural and mechanical engineering in the explanation of the behavior of sytems under static or dynamic.loading. flow tru soils, one dimensional consolidation and settlement prediction of soil strata, deflection of structural elements, buckling analysis and determination of effective lengths in steel designs etc are all mathematical and highly applicable in the field of engineering.

bro, I think you just mentioned what the problem is. They don't teach how theories can solve real life problems which is very important. It was recently I knew that differencial calculus is what is used to calculate how an airplane speed is reduced gradually in order not to cause a shock inside of the plane. Engineering students in Nigeria don't know stuffs like that and it's very bad.

skydon:

Cybersecurity in Nigeria? Studying IT in Nigeria is a waste of time.

educate me on your opinion

Originalsly:

I'm not at all into engineering. I do agree with your point on universities are focused on theory and not practical. But even so.... I would agree with the OP that basically an engineering graduate is nowhere near up to date with today's international best practices...... the basic reason why foreigners are employed.
From my own observations... regarding buildings.... whatever branch of engineering that is... I noticed multi storeyed buildings being demolished ... and erected. The ones built in the earlier part of the 1900's.... were framed in iron... top to bottom... iron beams...uprights ..etc... that was the engineering design of that time. Now... they frame maybe the first three storeys max in iron... then they be going up the next 50 plus floors.... no iron works. If the universities are not on this page.... and trying to move forward to the next... then the university programme is a waste of time.... stuck in the past.

The student and the system each have fault but regarding the points OP raised, the students have more fault. Everybody is too busy cramming elect/elect calculations and principle than understanding it and when it is time to apply it, they barely know which principle goes in where. Blame the students more. Most are not even aware a complain like this should be directed at polytechnics and tech colleges.

concho:
Abroad, no. I Started investing in self education . Started hustling legitimately and saving . I suffered bro.
But now, i work once in a week and make 200k n above monthly . Will double soon if i start up my third business by nxt month .

boss show me the way na....I'm an engineering fresher...I just sent you a pm

akpunda86:

Guy im an engineering grauate A consultant.ALL i read in school im 150% using them.either u studied engineering to pass or u were forced.for me it pays me well.im not govt staff eida

please explain what theories you have applied to solve which problem. What particular mathematical subject do you find very useful in your government work... you guys should either learn how to give a proper response to a topic or just shut up

Ok?

Tooling and instrumentation is very important aspect of a civilisations. Africa is still using 17th century tools @ 21st century. We've been long denied access to tools and electricity. A cutlass will cultivate in 1 year what a tractor will cultivate in 1 hour. Nigeria with population of 200 millon hardly maintains the size of electricity a nuclear plant set for 200 thousand population in Europe. How do we move forward when we are on reverse gear? �

Dothraki:
please explain what theories you have applied to solve which problem. What particular mathematical subject do you find very useful in your government work... you guys should either learn how to give a proper response to a topic or just shut up

Ok?

Be open-minded. It helps. You have not yet stopped learning, you know?

kirchofff:
bro, I think you just mentioned what the problem is. They don't teach how theories can solve real life problems which is very important. It was recently I knew that differencial calculus is what is used to calculate how an airplane speed is reduced gradually in order not to cause a shock inside of the plane. Engineering students in Nigeria don't know stuffs like that and it's very bad.

Nobody is suppose to be teaching you what theory is used for what practical. Reasons being:
There are potentially thousands of practical application of that same theory in various scenarios.
The school or lecturer will end up being biased or promoting some brands. For example a mechanical engr lecturer trying to illustrate something on Toyota vehicle or product may be seen as promoting Toyota at the expense of Kia, Nissan and Honda. Also not that brands tend to use same principles or theories in varying ways and that is what defines their products or brands. Think back to older Volvo models that are always noisy and fuel-efficient in a short time.

Wow, you guys are great. I learned a great deal from this discussion. The guy that claimed the only subjects you can learn well in Nigerian universities are Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa cracked me up. He reminds me of RKRKYORUBA!

After all these years the problems have not changed from this discussion. So it is not the problem of bad universities because even when Ibadan, Nsukka and Bello were well founded, we had this discussion.

Engineering pionts to the problems in all fields. I must point out that our universities, even up to today have been able to produce undergrads that do exceptional well in all fields abroad. They are so hungry for change, they beat Africans they meet abroad.

So what is the problem?

Universities up to PhD levels are introduction to your field of interests. What you do with it is up to you. There is no job in the wide world that fits exactly into your field of study. Use methods you learn to structure your projects, sometimes you may even discard what you learn or drop out to capitalize on your ideas.

While the distinction between universities and technical or politeychnics is true, Nigerians must learn how to discard it and roll up their sleeves. That mentality killed our development.

What about Nigerians that are building helicopters, tricycles and cars from scraps? Most of them are not PhD holders and have never left the country.

Yes, Chinese and Japanese copy, replicate and violate patent laws the same way Americans used to with Europeans. What is stopping Africans?

The biggest laboratory in the world is Africa, our environment where nothing works! Top professors used to come to Oluloyo Hospital in the summer to study Tropical diseases. How many engineers have, Ajaokuta, Carter Bridge, Kainji Dam produced?

Go to Eko Atlantic, foreign "experts" bocu.

CodeTemplar:
The student and the system each have fault but regarding the points OP raised, the students have more fault. Everybody is too busy cramming elect/elect calculations and principle than understanding it and when it is time to apply it, they barely know which principle goes in where. Blame the students more. Most are not even aware a complain like this should be directed at polytechnics and tech colleges.

That's a whole.other problem when students bring secondary school cramming mentality to university. At university one is supposed to jnderstand the principles so well that they should be striving to improve on them ... take them to a higher level instead of cramming them and spitting them right back out. No understanding...no innovations. That's really a major problem.

Dothraki:
please go back and read my article. The system is fvcked up.
It is impossible for anyone to implement anything. University or polytechnic
You get put so much theories to your head your brain will discard everything since you are not taught how to implent it.

Its like pouring water to a basket, the moment you finish exam, everything is gone in your head..
An average graduate does not remember anything, what is the point of learning if you are going to forget it all at the end of the day?
People that think like you are Nigerian problem.
There is need to reform the educational system in nigeria..
We are not even talking about making innovation..
Lets just be copying what developed nation are doing.. let us be manufacturing substandard phones, tv and all. One day we will get there..just like china did.

There is need for reformation. How can anyone defend the old and outdated stuffs we learn in Nigerian universities.....

You are part of Nigerias problem. Honestly

i think your purpose of creating this thread is to rant.
smh ,the guy you quoted is right ,polytechnics and colleges are the practical oriented institutions you can attend, ask a polytechnic student.
I'm a student of the Federal Polytechnic Ede ,I'm studying computer science,I'm in nd1 .I can tell you I understand if not all the most important part of programming in qbasic and HTML ,we still in the first semester and we already did a lot of assignments about programming ,and when I say a lot I mean writing programs to perform mathematical calculations such as permutation ,combinations,quadratic formula etc.
And getting good grades is good too,the problem is we focus too much on the questions like, how I'm going to get a job after school?,how will I be a able to sell my brain to get a fee that's not even worth it?,we need to change our perspectives about education ,we need to focus on what we can do to make life better.
my lecturer taught me a little part of Programming, I did the rest with help from YouTube videos and like minded friends ,you can't be spoonfed all the things you need to know..

even those Nigerians who travelled abroad to study and ended up with good grades what have they contributed to life?,what have they invented ?, Nigerians study study to get good grades,study to be an employer and not become an employee in the future peace
you talking about outdated stuffs ,well here in Federal polytechnic Ede we don't operate on outdated stuffs.
even if you were taught outdated stuffs ,don't you understand the concept of self study? f***ck I'm exhausted

#peace

CodeTemplar:
The student and the system each have fault but regarding the points OP raised, the students have more fault. Everybody is too busy cramming elect/elect calculations and principle than understanding it and when it is time to apply it, they barely know which principle goes in where. Blame the students more. Most are not even aware a complain like this should be directed at polytechnics and tech colleges.

you obviously have problem with comprehension, l mentioned that companies hire foreigners to do design for them. Go to most of Nigerian firm where engineering is practiced, we work mainly as maintenance engineer

Why should we address polytechnic about that?. And what does college of education have to do with this?
I find it funny when people like you claim smart/intelligent

Are you telling me that those foreigners that do design for us have more sophisticated brain? Cos i am not understanding you at all

Dothraki:
read my article very well brother, when you go on internship, you work as a maintenance engineer. Nigeria graduate does nothing other than to ensure that machine run smoothly.. when they need engineers to modify existing design or change the system, these companies hire foreigners...
Most of the design team of innoson motors are Asians..

Nigeria system give us ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance to actually practise what we have learned. What is the point of acquiring so much theories if we are never going to use it. Isn't that a mockery of ourself?

What can a black man contribute to mankind? Other than sex,slavery,voodoo,hedonism,violence,corruption,crime and witchcraft. Fucking race...

4gunners:
Boss!!! We happen to be from thesame field. I really want to know this programming stuff. I've started with python but find it very daunting.. Any advice for me..

If u happen to be a newbie I wouldn't advice u to start with advanced languages like Python. Start with basic web development tools like HTML/CSS, JavaScript and some Libraries or Frameworks then u can progress to higher ones. It worked for me