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rottennaija:
So, why did Paul ask them to not partake unworthily Mrs intelligent officer? Because they were other sheep?

Good question!
Because the NEW covenant does not involves all Christians! it's STRICTLY between Jehovah and the 144,000 and most of the early Christians were also confused on this matter.
Though many of them died but Paul used a term that shows they died out of misconception not rebellion and so they'll be resurrected here on earth. That's why he said they FELL ASLEEP in death[term used for those with the hope of resurrection]

rottennaija:
Did you carefully read it? Maximus69

Hmmm,
You [a dropout] posted something dating 2003 for a new intake of 2018 and you're expecting me to count on that when the GB[lecturer] is still very much around telling me not to worry,that the Organization is MOVING! Well you've decided to leave the organization so there is nothing that can make any sense to you again. But it would have been much more reasonable if you can find a better performing group than JWs!
Thanks for your time, i really appreciate chatting with you!

rottennaija:
I think the guy is getting confused by the hour. It's not easy defending the governing body, especially since other Jws have now picked their race from the trade. I'll give it to him, he is a military intelligent office and is trying but eventually, "—the bed [he] has made is too short to lie on. The blankets are too narrow to cover [him] ." - Isaiah 28:20

That's a BIG PROVERB you have there in Isaiah 28:20. Hope the INTELLIGENCE AGENT will decode and apply.

achorladey:
That's a BIG PROVERB you have there in Isaiah 28:20. Hope the INTELLIGENCE AGENT will decode and apply.

Have you read how watchtower is stalking people this days? Hiring private investigators, sending letters to people who have never attended their meetings in 5 years for judicial committee, harrasing members who chose to fade away?

I just saw these complaints on facebook and someone will say this religion is not cult. Go through the comments too, you will see people's complaints.

https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2406160842936163&id=100006268126035



budaatum, TATIME, Maximus69, Jozzy4, Jessicha

rottennaija:
Have you read how watchtower is stalking people this days? Hiring private investigators, sending letters to people who have never attended their meetings in 5 years for judicial committee, harrasing members who chose to fade away?

I just saw these complaints on facebook and someone will say this religion is not cult. Go through the comments too, you will see people's complaints.

https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2406160842936163&id=100006268126035



budaatum, TATIME, Maximus69, Jozzy4, Jessicha

Hmmmmmmmmmmm,
No wonder Maximus said goodbye.
So you expected a world class military intelligent officer who have been to far away countries and worked with other first class military intelligence officers around the world to take you serious with these cheap blackmail?
You and i know that the organization is one under the directives of the GB that's why you insinuated that the followers are worshiping the GB. Now you a FADING AWAY member whose parents are already aware that you're no more loyal to the group's tenets wants others to believe what someone posted on SOCIAL MEDIA whereas the same thing has not happened to you or any ex~JW you know!
Well Jesus have said it all. When an evil spirit leaves you but you refuse to fill your heart with good things as in spiritual treasures then seven much more wicked spirits will return with the first one making eight, and your last condition will be worse than the former!
You can allow Satan to keep making you his agent but until you find a BETTER performing group than the JWs you remain just a fugitive and miscreant on social media!

achorladey:
That's a BIG PROVERB you have there in Isaiah 28:20. Hope the INTELLIGENCE AGENT will decode and apply.

Maximus joined NL forum to make jest of JWs as it seems like fun until he grasp that all of you are fighting for no particular motive.
He noticed that even you whom he felt is reasonable is also arguing in support of no denomination, he tried to see if you're interested in the unification of all groups claiming Christians but you're not!
Then he tried to reshape the jesting from no denomination to focusing on what is really wrong with Christianity. That is when he realised that ONLY the JWs are been questioned to defend their faith whereas all others failed to present their group they're hiding it!
We've met one on one and he's now a family friend getting baptised this June,so you can continue with your ministry on NL!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm,
No wonder Maximus said goodbye.
So you expected a world class military intelligent officer who have been to far away countries and worked with other first class military intelligence officers around the world to take you serious with these cheap blackmail?
You and i know that the organization is one under the directives of the GB that's why you insinuated that the followers are worshiping the GB. Now you a FADING AWAY member whose parents are already aware that you're no more loyal to the group's tenets wants others to believe what someone posted on SOCIAL MEDIA whereas the same thing has not happened to you or any ex~JW you know!
Well Jesus have said it all. When an evil spirit leaves you but you refuse to fill your heart with good things as in spiritual treasures then seven much more wicked spirits will return with the first one making eight, and your last condition will be worse than the former!
You can allow Satan to keep making you his agent but until you find a BETTER performing group than the JWs you remain just a fugitive and miscreant on social media!

I think if Maximus69 is that world class military intelligence, by now he would know who is friends are. He should be aware of who is mocking him.
Btw, Just for the bolded

rottennaija:
1 Pe 2:9,
. 9 But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,+ a people for special possession,+ that you should declare abroad the excellencies”*+ of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.+

Re 1:5,6
and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.

Re 5:9,10
And they sing a new song,+ saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God+ out of every tribe and tongue* and people and nation,+ 10 and you made them to be a kingdom+ and priests to our God,+ and they are to rule as kings+ over the earth.”

The above scriptures I quoted were applicable to the audience at a particular time, whether back then or today? Yes?

Go straight to the point .

rottennaija:
While you are not definitive, Watchtower is definitive that all true Christians in the first century were anointed Christians. Note, all true Christians.
They are also very definitive that they has been only one calling in the first century, at least till 1900s.


"As spirit-anointed brothers of Christ, all the early Christians had the prospect of being heavenly priests with Christ." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.35

"And Christians back there in the first century needed it. At that time all of them were spirit-anointed Christians who looked forward to a future resurrection "into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." "Let Your Kingdom Come" p.88

"For some 19 centuries after this there was only one calling, the heavenly one. It was an undeserved kindness that God bestowed on a limited number in furtherance of his own wise and loving purposes." United in Worship of the only True God p.111

"Selecting these future corulers over mankind would take time. Why? For one thing, that opportunity had to be extended to people of all nations. And, while many professed to lay hold of it, few truly proved to be faithful followers of God's Son. (Matthew 22:14) High standards had to be met." True Peace and Security - How Can You Find It? p.65

"We understand that this heavenly calling continued down through the centuries, though during the so-called Dark Ages, there may have been times when the number of anointed ones were very few. With the reestablishment of true Christianity near the end of the last century, more were called and chosen. But it seems that in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed. Thus there began to appear a group of loyal Christians with the earthly hope. Jesus termed such "other sheep," who unite in worship with the anointed as one approved flock." Watchtower 1996 Aug 15 p.31

So we agreed that every true Christian in the first century was destined to be king in heaven, had received the anointing? Yes?

Get your facts right.

" Jehovah began choosing anointed ones after Jesus’ death and resurrection, and it seems that all in the first-century Christian " January W16

achorladey:
Jozzy4: If not that the enemies camp is in turmoil,

Achorladey: which of your enemy camp Oga Jozzy4?

Jozzy4: your friend said he agreed those in the New covenant are a Royal priesthood or kings.

Achorladey: I have not change my position on that Oga Jozzy4.

Jozzy4: If they are kings, that exclude earthly subjects whom are subjects.

Achorladey: Expansiate who are your SUBJECTS here. Are they fellow christians like those selected to become kings and priest, muslims, non christians or WHO?

Jozzy4: Is it rocket science ?

Achorladey: We will know very soon?

U have come back to make noise as usual . after your holiday ... Don't worry you will be sent back for another holiday.

achorladey:
Jozzy4: If not that the enemies camp is in turmoil,

Achorladey: which of your enemy camp Oga Jozzy4?

Jozzy4: your friend said he agreed those in the New covenant are a Royal priesthood or kings.

Achorladey: I have not change my position on that Oga Jozzy4.

Jozzy4: If they are kings, that exclude earthly subjects whom are subjects.

Achorladey: Expansiate who are your SUBJECTS here. Are they fellow christians like those selected to become kings and priest, muslims, non christians or WHO?

Jozzy4: Is it rocket science ?

Achorladey: We will know very soon?

achorladey

Jozzy4: Since she made it clear those in the new earth are Christians.

Achorladey: I have not said they are not CHRISTIANS.

Something is wrong with you.

achorladey:
Jozzy4: Here is the right reply to the BOLDED above.

Achorladey: To what BOLDED? Here it is...... Is it because these CHRISTIANS are NOT KINGS and PRIEST that made them not part of the the ONLY ONE NEW COVENANT?

So what was Jozzy4 reply to the BOLDED? Here it is below......

I know that Christ has made those in the ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD.

Jozzy4 I don't think u understand yourself any longer.

Achorladey: Are you in a hurry? From what you have highlighted from my post then, it means you BELIEVE and ACCEPT that the ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT is for 144,000 as believed in the THEOLOGY of Jws since they are the ONLY KINGS and PRIEST of GOD'S KINGDOM. It means in essence JESUS CHRIST is mediating for ONLY 144,000 CHRISTIANS who are to RULE with HIM as KINGS and PRIEST.

Thanks for the response. It's an added information that will aid this discussion.

The post you bolded initially contains the following ......

I am beginning to wonder what was CHRIST MEDIATING for since this particular set are not part of the ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT.

Your friend stated this earlier in the course of this discussion......

Jessicha: He also mediate for all men - 1Tim 2:5

Achorladey: Since you agree the ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT is for 144,000 what is Christ mediating for according to the SCRIPTURE highlighted above stated by your friend?

You don't know what's doing you . Christ is mediator of all men , 1 Tim 2:5 . pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him , etc it says " ALL " men . anyone either true Christian or not. If they would have access to God, its through Christ. That's for everyone


Christ also Mediate of a new covenant ( Heb 9:24) . Strictly for his chosen followers NOT ALL MEN ...with a better promise to be kings and priest just as you agreed ( 1Pet 2:9, Luke 22;28-30

Jozzy4:
Get your facts right.

" Jehovah began choosing anointed ones after Jesus’ death and resurrection, and it seems that all in the first-century Christian " January W16

Reference the article well! Which month? Which page?

Jozzy4:
You don't know what's doing you . Christ is mediator of all men , 1 Tim 2:5 . pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him , etc it says " ALL " men . anyone either true Christian or not. If they would have access to God, its through Christ. That's for everyone


Christ also Mediate of a new covenant ( Heb 9:24) . Strictly for his chosen followers NOT ALL MEN ...with a better promise to be kings and priest just as you agreed ( 1Pet 2:9, Luke 22;28-30

So Christ mediates for all men, You pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him etc. But he is a mediator of the new covenant and the New covenant is not for all men?


Common sense doesn't tell you that in the old covenant, the Jews (proselytize) didn't pray through Christ, sacrifice animals, they salvation was guaranteed by their obedience through the law which they couldn't, had Moses as mediator not christ etc, that it is only in the new covenant that they have Jesus blood as sacrifice, pray through Christ, no longer animal sacrifice, pray in his name, get salvation through him, forgiveness of sins etc.

Common sense doesn't tell you that these provisions became possible because a new covenant was in force and has Jesus Christ as mediator? Common sense that people of the nation couldn't have access to God through the old law covenant and its only possible because of the new covenant which Jesus is a mediator and came into force by his blood?

Hmmm, Jehovah’s Witnesses, common sense is not so common, especially among yourselves. Jozzy4, me and you know quite well that you believe this because your religion teaches so, the day they stop teaching it, you believes will change automatically. It's that simple and common sense.

If you want do math, let's do common sense maths

Jesus = Mediator of New Covenant Heb 9:24
Jesus = Mediator for all Men 1 Ti 2:5
Therefore,
Mediator of New Covenant = Mediator of all Men
New Covenant = All Men Q.E.D.

All Benefits because new covenant is invoke and has Jesus as mediator are: sins are forgiven forever, pray through Jesus, salvation through Jesus, one sacrifice for all, only way to God is through Jesus not obedience to the mosaic law covenant. That is why you are a Christian today! That is why you pray through Jesus and have faith in him. That is why salvation is open to all, not just jews. Because of the New covenant.

NB: I'm preparing a comprehensive article on new covenant vs old. When through, I'll post it and tag you.
budaatum, TATIME, Maximus69, Jozzy4, Jessicha

Jozzy4:
Go straight to the point .

Are you afraid to say yes? Don't worry, there is no landmines no where. It wouldn't explode in your face. Just say yes or no.

1 Pe 2:9,
. 9 But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,+ a people for special possession,+ that you should declare abroad the excellencies”*+ of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.+

Re 1:5,6
and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.

Re 5:9,10
And they sing a new song,+ saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God+ out of every tribe and tongue* and people and nation,+ 10 and you made them to be a kingdom+ and priests to our God,+ and they are to rule as kings+ over the earth.”

The above scriptures I quoted were applicable to the audience at a particular time, whether back then or today? Yes?

Jozzy4:
U have come back to make noise as usual . after your holiday ... Don't worry you will be sent back for another holiday.

Hahahahahaha! Didn't you get response the same day you replied to my post? Concerning your response to my post at least on record its a full day before you replied.

No one is making noise except you by trying to bring distraction and divert attention on HOLIDAYS. Now you know, mine took 8-9 hours yours 24hours plus.

Oga Jozzy4 I know who has been on HOLIDAY. Holiday no be bad thing. Enjoy as much as you can.

Jozzy4:
Something is wrong with you.

Why has Jozzy4 made the remark captured above, it is simply because of the bolded part of my post captured below which I highlight in upper case LETTER

Jozzy4: If they are kings, that exclude earthly subjects whom are subjects.

Achorladey: EXPANSIATE WHO ARE YOUR SUBJECTS HERE. ARE THEY FELLOW CHRISTIANS LIKE THOSE SELECTED TO BECOME KINGS AND PRIEST, MUSLIMS, NON CHRISTIANS OR WHO?

Jozzy4: Since she made it clear those in the new earth are Christians.
Achorladey: I HAVE NOT SAID THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.

Achorladey: So why have I sort this clarification above from Jozzy4, its to ascertain if you are equally on same page with your female friend. That is sorted out now.

Thanks for your response!

Jozzy4:
You don't know what's doing you . Christ is mediator of all men , 1 Tim 2:5 . pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him , etc it says " ALL " men . anyone either true Christian or not. If they would have access to God, its through Christ. That's for everyone


Christ also Mediate of a new covenant ( Heb 9:24) . Strictly for his chosen followers NOT ALL MEN ...with a better promise to be kings and priest just as you agreed ( 1Pet 2:9, Luke 22;28-30

Jozzy4: You don't know what's doing you.

Achorladey: Oga Jozzy4, I know, na this ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT palaver.

Jozzy4: Christ is mediator of all men, 1 Tim 2:5.

Achorladey: That's an open SECRET. The reason we have been asking all this while what is this MEDIATORSHIP based upon?

Jozzy4: pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him , etc it says " ALL " men . anyone either true Christian or not. If they would have access to God, its through Christ.

Achorladey: What made all the above you MENTION POSSIBLE Oga Jozzy4?

Jozzy4: That's for everyone.

Achorladey: Open secret from time IMMEMORIAL?

Jozzy4: Christ also Mediate of a new covenant ( Heb 9:24).

Achorladey: Here is the Hebrew 9:24 but will quote before and after this scripture you cited.......

Indeed according to the law almost everything was purified with BLOOD, and without the SHEDDING of BLOOD there is no FORGIVENESS. 23 So it was necessary for the sketches of the things in heaven to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things THEMSELVES required BETTER SACRIFICES than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with hands—the representation of the true sanctuary—but into heaven itself, and he appears now in GOD’S PRESENCE for US. 25 And he did not enter to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the sanctuary year after year with BLOOD that is NOT his OWN, 26 for then he would have had to SUFFER AGAIN and AGAIN since the foundation of the world. But now he has appeared ONCE for all at the CONSUMMATION of the AGES to put AWAY SIN by his SACRIFICE. 27 And just as people are appointed to die once, and then to face judgment, 28 so also, after CHRIST was offered ONCE to bear the SINS of MANY, to THOSE who eagerly await him he will appear a SECOND TIME, not to BEAR SIN but to bring SALVATION.

Jozzy4: Strictly for his chosen followers NOT ALL MEN

Achorladey: You only need to bring out the STRICTLY FOR HIS CHOSEN FOLLOWERS in the scripture you cited Hebrew 9:24. Which I believe its restricted to 144,000 "anointed Christian"

The FOR US is it equal to FOR THEIR( 144,000 alone)? Hebrew 9:24

So when Paul wrote to Timothy in 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one MEDIATOR between God and men, a man CHRIST JESUS.


Did you in anywhere see STRICTLY for 144,000 in that scripture by APOSTLE PAUL a member of the 144,000 according to the JWS THEOLOGY?

Jozzy4 ...with a better promise to be kings and priest just as you agreed ( 1Pet 2:9, Luke 22;28-30)

Achorladey: You can see I separated this part of your post from the other part, because your believe is only 144,000 are the only Party Christ is MEDIATING for in the ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT.

By now you will get to see why I have been sorting CLARIFICATION. Christ MEDIATORSHIP is based on that ONE and ONLY COVENANT. It is that ONE and ONLY NEW COVENANT that every blessing Christ brings emanated from.

Hebrews 9:28 also, after CHRIST was offered ONCE to bear the SINS of MANY, to THOSE who eagerly await him he will appear a SECOND TIME, not to BEAR SIN but to bring SALVATION.

Does the scripture above pass any massage?

rottennaija:
So Christ mediates for all men, You pray in his name, Get salvation through his name, have access to God through him etc. But he is a mediator of the new covenant and the New covenant is not for all men?


Common sense doesn't tell you that in the old covenant, the Jews (proselytize) didn't pray through Christ, sacrifice animals, they salvation was guaranteed by their obedience through the law which they couldn't, had Moses as mediator not christ etc, that it is only in the new covenant that they have Jesus blood as sacrifice, pray through Christ, no longer animal sacrifice, pray in his name, get salvation through him, forgiveness of sins etc.

Common sense doesn't tell you that these provisions became possible because a new covenant was in force and has Jesus Christ as mediator? Common sense that people of the nation couldn't have access to God through the old law covenant and its only possible because of the new covenant which Jesus is a mediator and came into force by his blood?

Hmmm, Jehovah’s Witnesses, common sense is not so common, especially among yourselves. Jozzy4, me and you know quite well that you believe this because your religion teaches so, the day they stop teaching it, you believes will change automatically. It's that simple and common sense.

If you want do math, let's do common sense maths

Jesus = Mediator of New Covenant Heb 9:24
Jesus = Mediator for all Men 1 Ti 2:5
Therefore,
Mediator of New Covenant = Mediator of all Men
New Covenant = All Men Q.E.D.

Benefits because new covenant is invoke and has Jesus as mediator are: sins are forgiven forever, pray through Jesus, salvation through Jesus, one sacrifice for all, only way to God is through Jesus not obedience to the law. That is why you are a Christian today! That is why you pray through Jesus and have faith in him. That is why salvation is open to all, not just jews. Because of the New covenant.

NB: I'm preparing a comprehensive article on new covenant vs old. When through, I'll post it and tag you.
budaatum, TATIME, Maximus69, Jozzy4, Jessicha

This formula is simple to GRASP. Nice!

achorladey:
This formula is simple to GRASP. Nice!

I have restrained myself from using bad languages but sometimes, it is necessary. these guys are really without ability to think for themselves. Really and are so myopic.

rottennaija:
I have restrained myself from using bad languages but sometimes, it is necessary. these guys are really without ability to think for themselves. Really and are so myopic.

Did I see you type THINK! That's the job of the GOVERNING BODY every other member is to PARROT the THINKING of the GOVERNING BODY.

In Jehovah's organization it is NOT necessary to spend a lot of time and ENERGY in RESEARCH, for there are brothers in the organization who are ASSIGNED to do that very THING. Watchtower June 1 1967.



Avoid questioning the COUNSEL provided by GOD'S VISIBLE ORGANIZATION. Some who point out that the ORGANIZATION has had to make some ADJUSTMENTS before, so they argue: " This shows that we have to make up OUR OWN mind on what to BELIEVE" This is INDEPENDENT THINKING. Why is it so DANGEROUS?"
watchtower 1983 Jan 15 p. 22



Who are this FOREMOST brothers you bet most of them are from THE office of the WRITING and SERVICE committee. GB and the HELPERS combination.

We will keep trying to restrain ourselves from bad languages nothing is gained when one resort to that level.

achorladey:
Did I see you type THINK! That's the job of the GOVERNING BODY every other member is to PARROT the THINKING of the GOVERNING BODY.

In Jehovah's organization it is NOT necessary to spend a lot of time and ENERGY in RESEARCH, for there are brothers in the organization who are ASSIGNED to do that very THING. Watchtower June 1 1967.

Avoid questioning the COUNSEL provided by GOD'S VISIBLE ORGANIZATION. Some who point out that the ORGANIZATION has had to make some ADJUSTMENTS before, so they argue: " This shows that we have to make up OUR OWN mind on what to BELIEVE" This is INDEPENDENT THINKING. Why is it so DANGEROUS?" watchtower 1983 Jan 15 p. 22

Who are this FOREMOST brothers you bet most of them are from THE office of the WRITING and SERVICE committee. GB and the HELPERS combination.

We will keep trying to restrain ourselves from bad languages nothing is gained when one resort to that level.

And come to think of it, if they saw this behavior among members of other religious groups, it will raise a red flag in their hearts and minds. But, when they see such attitudes and behavior, they don't really think it's the same thing happening before their very eyes.

achorladey:
Did I see you type THINK! That's the job of the GOVERNING BODY every other member is to PARROT the THINKING of the GOVERNING BODY.

In Jehovah's organization it is NOT necessary to spend a lot of time and ENERGY in RESEARCH, for there are brothers in the organization who are ASSIGNED to do that very THING. Watchtower June 1 1967.



Avoid questioning the COUNSEL provided by GOD'S VISIBLE ORGANIZATION. Some who point out that the ORGANIZATION has had to make some ADJUSTMENTS before, so they argue: " This shows that we have to make up OUR OWN mind on what to BELIEVE" This is INDEPENDENT THINKING. Why is it so DANGEROUS?"
watchtower 1983 Jan 15 p. 22



Who are this FOREMOST brothers you bet most of them are from THE office of the WRITING and SERVICE committee. GB and the HELPERS combination.

We will keep trying to restrain ourselves from bad languages nothing is gained when one resort to that level.

You wey sabi bible & get wisdom pass GB,na so so complain u dey complain upandan against JW.

** Martin Luther say Catholic Church no dey follow Bible, he go him own way jejely.
The British monarchy say them no like to stay under authority of the Pope, them waka go their way jejely .
If you value your so called independent thinking, it's very idiotic to complain against those you claim you're better than.

You guys UNCONSCIOUSLY ENVY the GB & JWs cohesion ( you will never admit it..),akin to the gang of Korah challenge Moses (Num16:1-3 "why would imperfect Moses lord it over Jehovah's congregation? ) (for their mind,why would imperfect GB , lead a whole 8 million plus JWs cohesively worldwide? Ask Rottennaija, How many disciples of Jesus dey teach wetin Jesus condemn,wey him no approve ?)
You say Janosky no sabi drive but you dey drag my car steering with me. As you no like the way I drive, comot from my car, go dey drive your own the way you like it.
Go serve your "God" the way you please.

Rottennaija , a self confessed atheist and unbeliever of the Bible, wan come reform JWs, you're a joke.

rottennaija:
Have you read how watchtower is stalking people this days? Hiring private investigators, sending letters to people who have never attended their meetings in 5 years for judicial committee, harrasing members who chose to fade away?

I just saw these complaints on facebook and someone will say this religion is not cult. Go through the comments too, you will see people's complaints.

https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2406160842936163&id=100006268126035



budaatum, TATIME, Maximus69, Jozzy4, Jessicha

Story story.
How many times have rotten naija been harassed & stalked for dissenting against JW beliefs?

You know your parents inside out.

* * My question;
Your parents dey inside cult?

Janosky:
Story story.
How many times have rotten naija been harassed & stalked for dissenting against JW beliefs?

You know your parents inside out.

* * My question;
Your parents dey inside cult?

ABSOLUTELY

Janosky:
You wey sabi bible & get wisdom pass GB,na so so complain u dey complain upandan against JW.

** Martin Luther say Catholic Church no dey follow Bible, he go him own way jejely.
The British monarchy say them no like to stay under authority of the Pope, them waka go their way jejely .
If you value your so called independent thinking, it's very idiotic to complain against those you claim you're better than.

You guys UNCONSCIOUSLY ENVY the GB & JWs cohesion ( you will never admit it..),akin to the gang of Korah challenge Moses (Num16:1-3 "why would imperfect Moses lord it over Jehovah's congregation? ) (for their mind,why would imperfect GB , lead a whole 8 million plus JWs cohesively worldwide? Ask Rottennaija, How many disciples of Jesus dey teach wetin Jesus condemn,wey him no approve ?)
You say Janosky no sabi drive but you dey drag my car steering with me. As you no like the way I drive, comot from my car, go dey drive your own the way you like it.
Go serve your "God" the way you please.

Rottennaija , a self confessed atheist and unbeliever of the Bible, wan come reform JWs, you're a joke.

If them no Martin Luther no complain of catholic and if British Monarchy no complain of pope, how you for them know say them complain in the first place?

If Jws no complain of catholic and other religious groups, you for no no say them complain as you dey read am for your watchtower and awake.

Everyone has the right to complain of what they don't like. Everyone has the right to move to another location they like. It's called Freedom. So no kill yourself.

Janosky:
You wey sabi bible & get wisdom pass GB,na so so complain u dey complain upandan against JW.

** Martin Luther say Catholic Church no dey follow Bible, he go him own way jejely.
The British monarchy say them no like to stay under authority of the Pope, them waka go their way jejely .
If you value your so called independent thinking, it's very idiotic to complain against those you claim you're better than.

You guys UNCONSCIOUSLY ENVY the GB & JWs cohesion ( you will never admit it..),akin to the gang of Korah challenge Moses (Num16:1-3 "why would imperfect Moses lord it over Jehovah's congregation? ) (for their mind,why would imperfect GB , lead a whole 8 million plus JWs cohesively worldwide? Ask Rottennaija, How many disciples of Jesus dey teach wetin Jesus condemn,wey him no approve ?)
You say Janosky no sabi drive but you dey drag my car steering with me. As you no like the way I drive, comot from my car, go dey drive your own the way you like it.
Go serve your "God" the way you please.

Rottennaija , a self confessed atheist and unbeliever of the Bible, wan come reform JWs, you're a joke.

Janosky: You wey sabi bible & get wisdom pass GB,

Achorladey: Your palaver, God gives wisdom to each and everyone, why should I brag about what I received? If I discern am lacking I seek more from God. GB don't give wisdom na God dey give wisdom. I am not in a competition with GB on who has more KNOWLEDGE.

Janosky: na so so complain u dey complain upandan against JW.

Achorladey: You see it as COMPLAIN, I see it as an on going discussion based on the SCRIPTURES


Janosky: ** Martin Luther say Catholic Church no dey follow Bible, he go him own way jejely. The British monarchy say them no like to stay under authority of the Pope, them waka go their way jejely .

Achorladey: So........

Janosky: If you value your SO CALLED INDEPENDENT THINKING,

Achorladey: The SO CALLED INDEPENDENT THINKING you have been trying to make a case for as BEING better than the WISDOM of GB. Wetin man no go hear

Janosky: it's very idiotic to complain against those you claim you're better than.

Achorladey: I will repeat it again, you see it as complain, I see it as ON GOING DISCUSSION from the scriptures. One don't brag about what is received.

Janosky: You guys UNCONSCIOUSLY ENVY the GB & JWs cohesion ( you will never admit it..),

Achorladey: For your MIND abi? Wallow and Jollificate in such THINKING. It's from your mind anyway.

Janosky: akin to the gang of Korah challenge Moses (Num16:1-3 "why would imperfect Moses lord it over Jehovah's congregation? )

Achorladey: Moses got his APPOINTMENT from God, and from the major ATTRIBUTE he was known for scripturally as being HUMBLE shows HE is not the TYPE to LORD things over the nation of ISRAEL. You can COMPARE that with that of GB THAT GOT ASSUMPTION APPOINTMENT in 1919 from JESUS CHRIST according to your fellow COLLEAGUES on this platform and concerning LORDING just look back on your statement on INDEPENDENT THINKING. You should by now see WHO is LORDING?

Janosky: (for their mind,why would imperfect GB , lead a whole 8 million plus JWs cohesively worldwide?

Achorladey: All of the above still comes FROM YOUR MIND. You are trying to sell and make it OURS. Sorry Oga Janosky, I am not BUYING.

Janosky: Ask Rottennaija, How many disciples of Jesus dey teach wetin Jesus condemn,wey him no approve?)

Achorladey: Your question must have been seen by HIM. Why should I repeat it again?

Janosky: You say Janosky no sabi drive but you dey drag my car steering with me. As you no like the way I drive, comot from my car, go dey drive your own the way you like it. Go serve your "God" the way you please.

Achorladey: Just apply your analogy to the way YOU( Janosky) DISCUSS and ATTACK fellow CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS Like YOURS and see how well it FIT.

Janosky: Rottennaija , a self confessed atheist and unbeliever of the Bible, wan come reform JWs, you're a joke.

Achorladey: Whatever you have stated here equally looks like a JOKE to LOOOOOOOOL about!

rottennaija:
And come to think of it, if they saw this behavior among members of other religious groups, it will raise a red flag in their hearts and minds. But, when they see such attitudes and behavior, they don't really think it's the same thing happening before their very eyes.

What is the single word for the following........ BELIEF regarding the SELF or PERSONS or OBJECTS outside the SELF or PERSONS or OBJECT that is MAINTAINED despite INDISPUTABLE evidence to the CONTRARY.

Just the single word will do.

rottennaija:
And come to think of it, if they saw this behavior among members of other religious groups, it will raise a red flag in their hearts and minds. But, when they see such attitudes and behavior, they don't really think it's the same thing happening before their very eyes.

Of recent Janosky was busy dragging Ubenedictus over how the office of the POPE get to see to the EXECUTION of DISSENTERS and INDEPENDENT THINKERS still on this INDEPENDENT THINKING of a THING. Here is Janosky in another tone on this thread when the JWs are shown not to be DIFFERENT.
For more on his conversation with Ubenedictus check below
https://www.nairaland.com/3793815/how-one-witness-jehovahs-witness/68

achorladey:
What is the single word for the following........ BELIEF regarding the SELF or PERSONS or OBJECTS outside the SELF or PERSONS or OBJECT that is MAINTAINED despite INDISPUTABLE evidence to the CONTRARY.

Just the single word will do.

Idolatry?

rottennaija:
Idolatry?

options A. Apparition B. Illusion C . Delusion

rottennaija:
Reference the article well! Which month? Which page?

That's your assignment
It say " Seems " , which supported my position.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016046