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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 6:23am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


How I ran away?

This guy, you are a shameless liar.


You accepted defeat on one of those threads after you were comprehensively trashed with the scriptures.

Same you that admitted you goofed on another thread that the Israelites were tithing in the wilderness...

What kind of illiterate are you?

I admitted I made a mistake. Only a strong man admits his wrong, but that doesn't mean I accepted defeat. You later ran away from the thread after I proved that someone who is not born again like you can't understand scriptures.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by MuttleyLaff: 6:39am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:
Why are you using your own hands to contradict yourself? Don't you think at all?

Those that did not see Jesus, shebi they heard about Him and the Gospel before deciding to believe in Him or not?

alBHAGDADI, how did you eventually believe in Jesus? did you not hear the gospel first? Or did you just believe in Jesus out of thin air?
I am asking you this question again, what is the fate of those who never heard about the gospel or about Jesus?
This is a very easy, simple to answer straightforward question asked by OkCornel, and I am wondering why alBHAGDADI finds it hard to give an answer to the question. SMH

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 9:03am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Why are you using your own hands to contradict yourself? Don't you think at all?

Those that did not see Jesus, shebi they heard about Him and the Gospel before deciding to believe in Him or not?

alBHAbGDADI, how did you eventually believe in Jesus? did you not hear the gospel first? Or did you just believe in Jesus out of thin air?



I am asking you this question again, what is the fate of those who never heard about the gospel or about Jesus?

Who are the those who never heard? Don't you know that some people deliberately shut themselves away from the gospel? They saw God in nature but chose not to ask, seek and find him. They distanced themselves from God. Had it been they seek for God after seeing and marveling at his works, Hod would have reached out to them, but they didn't. Instead they chose to build their own god of idols. Them worshipping idols shows that they know of the concept of God, but they wanted their own which would pander to their desires which are mostly evil.

Do you think God did t give such people a chance? Look at Soon and Gomorrah, Lot was there to preach to them as one man, yet they still rejected. God sent Jonah to Nineveh and they repented. But here you are talking g as if God did t send people to Africa, whereas the Bible spoke of an Ethiopian Eunuch who use to go to the temple in Jerusalem. You also forgot that Jews who were traders and travelers carried their religion with them.

Mind you, God knows those who are his and who will be saved. If he didn't knock on your door, then blame yourself for not seeking for him. You simply shut yourself out. Even those who shut themselves away in jungles have a history of killing missionaries.

By the way, no man is judged towards eternal life due to his works.

I showed you a verse which says there is no works based salvation but faith based, you rejected

I showed you how Jesus rejected those who did wonderful works, you rejected.

Only for you to continue saying people will get eternal life due to their works which the Bible says are filthy rags. You simply say Jesus is not the only lying way to eternal life and that people can hold on to filthy rags to gain it.

What a shame.

Goodbye Mr Satanist, a title you haven't denied since I've been calling you that. No time to continue arguing with Satan's son about Jehovah my Father's words.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by MuttleyLaff: 9:34am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Who are the those who never heard?
Don't you know that some people deliberately shut themselves away from the gospel?
They saw God in nature but chose not to ask, seek and find him. They distanced themselves from God. Had it been they seek for God after seeing and marveling at his works, Hod would have reached out to them, but they didn't. Instead they chose to build their own god of idols. Them worshipping idols shows that they know of the concept of God, but they wanted their own which would pander to their desires which are mostly evil.

Do you think God did t give such people a chance? Look at Soon and Gomorrah, Lot was there to preach to them as one man, yet they still rejected. God sent Jonah to Nineveh and they repented. But here you are talking g as if God did t send people to Africa, whereas the Bible spoke of an Ethiopian Eunuch who use to go to the temple in Jerusalem. You also forgot that Jews who were traders and travelers carried their religion with them.

Mind you, God knows those who are his and who will be saved. If he didn't knock on your door, then blame yourself for not seeking for him. You simply shut yourself out. Even those who shut themselves away in jungles have a history of killing missionaries.

By the way, no man is judged towards eternal life due to his works.

I showed you a verse which says there is no works based salvation but faith based, you rejected

I showed you how Jesus rejected those who did wonderful works, you rejected.

Only for you to continue saying people will get eternal life due to their works which the Bible says are filthy rags. You simply say Jesus is not the only lying way to eternal life and that people can hold on to filthy rags to gain it.

What a shame.

Goodbye Mr Satanist, a title you haven't denied since I've been calling you that. No time to continue arguing with Satan's son about Jehovah my Father's words.
OK, hypothetically speaking, what is the fate of those who never heard about the gospel or about Jesus? Give your answer in one or at the most two sentences.

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 10:08am On Apr 26, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
OK, hypothetically speaking, what is the fate of those who never heard about the gospel or about Jesus? Give your answer in one or at the most two sentences.


Who are the those who never heard? Mention their names.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by MuttleyLaff: 10:10am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Who are the those who never heard? Mention their names.
Is this really a question that is too hard for you to quickly answer in a sentence or two? SMH at you.

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 10:12am On Apr 26, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Is this really a question that is too hard for you to quickly answer in a sentence or two? SMH at you.


Who are the those who never heard? Mention their names.

Is this also a question too hard to answer? grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by MuttleyLaff: 10:15am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Who are the those who never heard? Mention their names.

Is this also a question too hard to answer? grin
1/ Maybe a blind, deaf and dumb person
2/ Maybe a yet to be discovered tribe, like one in the Amazon, that has no contact with the civilised world.

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 10:28am On Apr 26, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
1/ Maybe a blind, deaf and dumb person
2/ Maybe a yet to be discovered tribe, like one in the Amazon, that has no contact with the civilised world.

were they born that way?

mention the name of the undiscovered tribe.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by MuttleyLaff: 10:48am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
were they born that way?

mention the name of the undiscovered tribe.
You always like to get educated here, don't you?

It doesn't matter if they were born that way or not, so stop buying for time.

Well, John Allen Chau is the latest victim who got killed by remote Amazonian tribe lately

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:00am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


I'm glad that whoever views this thread will see that all you've done all day is to come with the same verse even after I've come at you with countless verses.

Here you are again with the same already trashed verse. You didn't even address my post but came with this same verse. You are defeated dude.

Hahahaha....you are glad people are seeing the lies and heresies you've been posting on other threads?

I am not surprised that this is coming from someone who said "The tree of knowledge of good and evil represents Adam and Eve's tithe"


What a fraud you are...
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:02am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


I admitted I made a mistake. Only a strong man admits his wrong, but that doesn't mean I accepted defeat. You later ran away from the thread after I proved that someone who is not born again like you can't understand scriptures.

I later ran away from which thread?

Or you think I have all the time in the world to still engage a blockhead like you after your lies and stupidity has been exposed?
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 11:07am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Hahahaha....you are glad people are seeing the lies and heresies you've been posting on other threads?

I am not surprised that this is coming from someone who said "The tree of knowledge of good and evil represents Adam and Eve's tithe"


What a fraud you are...

What is tithe? Is it not something belonging to God which humans are not to touch? Isn't that synonymous to the tree in Eden which God said Adam and Eve should not touch?

I can see you lack understanding of synonyms.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 11:08am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


I later ran away from which thread?

Or you think I have all the time in the world to still engage a blockhead like you after your lies and stupidity has been exposed?

Which lies you exposed?

Same way you've been using only one verse even when I've shown you countless verses to prove your understanding of it wrong.

You will run away from this one too. grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:17am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Who are the those who never heard? Don't you know that some people deliberately shut themselves away from the gospel? They saw God in nature but chose not to ask, seek and find him. They distanced themselves from God. Had it been they seek for God after seeing and marveling at his works, Hod would have reached out to them, but they didn't. Instead they chose to build their own god of idols. Them worshipping idols shows that they know of the concept of God, but they wanted their own which would pander to their desires which are mostly evil.


You keep saying that these people saw God in nature. I have asked you time and again, was it this same nature that revealed Jesus and the Gospel to them? If nature could reveal Jesus and the gospel to every man, then why did Jesus instruct His disciples to spread the gospels to the ends of the earth?

alBHAGDADI, was it nature that revealed Jesus and the Gospel to you?

Answer these questions and evaluate your stupidity cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


alBHAGDADI:

Do you think God did t give such people a chance? Look at Soon and Gomorrah, Lot was there to preach to them as one man, yet they still rejected. God sent Jonah to Nineveh and they repented. But here you are talking g as if God did t send people to Africa, whereas the Bible spoke of an Ethiopian Eunuch who use to go to the temple in Jerusalem. You also forgot that Jews who were traders and travelers carried their religion with them.

Why are you a blockhead like this? Sodom & Gomorrah or Nineveh had no excuse because they heard the word of God.

Oh yes, please tell me the Jews spread Judaism to the ends of the earth you this moro.n.

alBHAGDADI:

Mind you, God knows those who are his and who will be saved. If he didn't knock on your door, then blame yourself for not seeking for him. You simply shut yourself out. Even those who shut themselves away in jungles have a history of killing missionaries.


The part of your quote I highlighted in red shows a false generalization on your part. So every tribe that shuts themselves in the jungles are guilty of killing missionaries abi?

alBHAGDADI:

By the way, no man is judged towards eternal life due to his works.

I showed you a verse which says there is no works based salvation but faith based, you rejected
M.oron, please go ahead and tell us John was wrong to tell us that those who missed the first resurrection would be judged according to their works...

alBHAGDADI:

I showed you how Jesus rejected those who did wonderful works, you rejected.
B.ufoon, Jesus did not reject these people because of their works, they were rejected because they were not aligned to the will of God.

alBHAGDADI:

Only for you to continue saying people will get eternal life due to their works which the Bible says are filthy rags. You simply say Jesus is not the only lying way to eternal life and that people can hold on to filthy rags to gain it.


What a shame.

Capital mo.r.on, just go ahead and tell us John was wrong when he wrote that those who missed out on the first resurrection would be judged according to their works before their names are checked in the book of life.

alBHAGDADI:

Goodbye Mr Satanist, a title you haven't denied since I've been calling you that. No time to continue arguing with Satan's son about Jehovah my Father's words.

You are deluded m.oron who has never met me or knows my background, but yet concludes I am a satanist with no evidence to show for it.

You are a shame to the church of Christ and the Kingdom of Heaven
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:20am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Which lies you exposed?

Same way you've been using only one verse even when I've shown you countless verses to prove your understanding of it wrong.

You will run away from this one too. grin

Let me reboot your malfunctioning brain for you;


Lie Number 1 - The "Books" in the great white throne judgment contains the names of people that are not written in the book of Life.

alBHAGDADI:

Those whose names are not written in the book of Life are those whose names are written in the books (plural). Those ones are condemned already and are only judged so as to appoint punishment to them based on the degree of their works. The judgment is not to pass some of them into heaven but to convict them of their sins and condemn them.

But this was what the scripture clearly said. The books recorded the works and deeds of those who did not partake in the first resurrection;

Revelation 20 v 12;
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.









Lie Number 2: Those who did not partake in the first resurrection are judged according to their works to determine "their degree of punishment"

alBHAGDADI:

Don't you get it? Those who will be judged according to their works are not being judged to see whether their works can condemn them or get then eternal life. They are condemned already and are only being judged to convict them and to determine the degree of punishment they deserve.

alBHAGDADI being a shameless and hardened liar clearly saw what John wrote in Revelation 20 v 11-15 concerning how those who missed out on the first resurrection would be judged. It is either their name is in the book of life and they're spared or it's not in the book of life and they're cast into eternal punishment.

FATE OF OTHERS AFTER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 11-15

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:21am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:



Who are the those who never heard? Mention their names.

You must have been blind and deaf to those examples I pasted earlier on this thread concerning isolated tribes abi?
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:26am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


What is tithe? Is it not something belonging to God which humans are not to touch? Isn't that synonymous to the tree in Eden which God said Adam and Eve should not touch?

I can see you lack understanding of synonyms.

Ogbeni, tithe is clearly defined as one-tenth! stop twisting scriptures.

The period where God made tithing mandatory for the Jews, He clearly defined tithe as one-tenth of crops, grains and livestock.

alBHAGDADI, you are a pathological and shameless liar eagerly ready to corrupt and twist the scriptures...

If according to you, tithe is something humans are not supposed to touch, how come the Levites, widows and strangers in the promised land were instructed to eat tithe?

How come does Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 clearly instructs the tither to EAT THEIR TITHE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD?








Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29

22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.

28 “At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 11:33am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Let me reboot your malfunctioning brain for you;


Lie Number 1 - The "Books" in the great white throne judgment contains the names of people that are not written in the book of Life.



But this was what the scripture clearly said. The books recorded the works and deeds of those who did not partake in the first resurrection;

Revelation 20 v 12;
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.









Lie Number 2: Those who did not partake in the first resurrection are judged according to their works to determine "their degree of punishment"



alBHAGDADI being a shameless and hardened liar clearly saw what John wrote in Revelation 20 v 11-15 concerning how those who missed out on the first resurrection would be judged. It is either their name is in the book of life and they're spared or it's not in the book of life and they're cast into eternal punishment.

FATE OF OTHERS AFTER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 11-15

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

What does this buffoon think the book of Life is?

The book of Life is a book which contains all the. Ames of those who died in Christ. They are the ones who resurrected first.

According to this buffoon, Paul, Clement and others whose names are written in the book of Life won't participate in the first resurrection.

Philippians 4:3
Indeed, true companion, I ask you also to help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, together with Clement also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.

Can you see how foolish you are to think the book of Life is for those didn't make the first resurrection?

They call something book of Life aka book of those with eternal life, yet this one thinks those who didn't partake in the first resurrection will still have eternal life. The moment you missed the first resurrection which is for those with eternal life as recorded in the book of Life, just consider yourself doomed.

Revelation 20:15
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Oya, I command you to bring back Revelations 20 as usual grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 11:35am On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Ogbeni, tithe is clearly defined as one-tenth! stop twisting scriptures.

The period where God made tithing mandatory for the Jews, He clearly defined tithe as one-tenth of crops, grains and livestock.

alBHAGDADI, you are a pathological and shameless liar eagerly ready to corrupt and twist the scriptures...

If according to you, tithe is something humans are not supposed to touch, how come the Levites, widows and strangers in the promised land were instructed to eat tithe?

How come does Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 clearly instructs the tither to EAT THEIR TITHE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD?








Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29

22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.

28 “At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.



This illiterate doesn't understand what synonym means.


grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:40am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


This illiterate doesn't understand what synonym means.


grin

Lying buff.oon. You clearly mention that tithe is something that belongs to God that Humans are not meant to touch.

God clearly instructed tithers to eat out of their tithes (humans are to touch and eat their tithe). Widows, Levites, Orphans and Strangers who are also human beings were instructed to touch and eat the tithes of the tithers.

How on earth does a single tree out of numerous trees in the garden of eden represent tithe (one-tenth)?

You are a shameless liar and a fraud.

There is no synonym, there is no correlation between the tree of knowledge of good & evil and tithe...you stark illiterate
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 11:45am On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


What does this buffoon think the book of Life is?

The book of Life is a book which contains all the. Ames of those who died in Christ. They are the ones who resurrected first.

According to this buffoon, Paul, Clement and others whose names are written in the book of Life won't participate in the first resurrection.

Philippians 4:3
Indeed, true companion, I ask you also to help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, together with Clement also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.

Can you see how foolish you are to think the book of Life is for those didn't make the first resurrection?

They call something book of Life aka book of those with eternal life, yet this one thinks those who didn't partake in the first resurrection will still have eternal life. The moment you missed the first resurrection which is for those with eternal life as recorded in the book of Life, just consider yourself doomed.

Revelation 20:15
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Oya, I command you to bring back Revelations 20 as usual grin

Oh wait, we should now discard Revelation 20?

Anyways, if you read that passage carefully, it still does not contradict what John saw at the great white throne judgment.


Take a careful look at those who qualify for the first resurrection if indeed you have a basic understanding of English;

FATE OF THE TRUE BELIEVERS PER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 4-6

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.




These are the conditions to be met to qualify for the first resurrection;
a) Souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God (we all know how Paul was killed, so that answers the garbage you posted up there)
b) Those who did not worship the beast nor its image
c) Those who never received the mark of the beast upon the foreheads or on their hands.






Now tell us how someone like Job qualifies to partake of the first resurrection, since according to you...everyone who missed out on the first resurrection are already condemned and awaiting judgment.

Tell us how those who never heard of Jesus and the Gospel would be judged.


Or you can just go ahead to tell us to discard Revelation 20, and that Apostle John was wrong
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:01pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Oh wait, we should now discard Revelation 20?

Anyways, if you read that passage carefully, it still does not contradict what John saw at the great white throne judgment.


Take a careful look at those who qualify for the first resurrection if indeed you have a basic understanding of English;

No, you don't discard revelations 20. What you discard is your fowl understanding of it, you bloody occult man.


OkCornel:

These are the conditions to be met to qualify for the first resurrection;
a) Souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God (we all know how Paul was killed, so that answers the garbage you posted up there)
b) Those who did not worship the beast nor its image
c) Those who never received the mark of the beast upon the foreheads or on their hands.

Bloody liar.

The first resurrection is for everyone you listed plus the ones you intentionally omitted who are those who put faith in Jesus -

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

That includes John who wrote the book of Revelations. He was never killed and won't exist during the Great Tribulation when people will be forced to received the mark of the beast. But according to your lying tongue, he wont make the first resurrection.

Can you see your foolishness? Stop worshipping Satan

OkCornel:


Now tell us how someone like Job qualifies to partake of the first resurrection, since according to you...everyone who missed out on the first resurrection are already condemned and awaiting judgment.

Tell us how those who never heard of Jesus and the Gospel would be judged.


Or you can just go ahead to tell us to discard Revelation 20, and that Apostle John was wrong

You are asking me about Job? Was Job not a child of God?

Your foolishness in thinking that only beheaded and people and those who didn't accept the mark of the beast are the only ones to resurrect is what led you to think Job won't resurrect. He will because the resurrection is for all those who believed in God according to how he wants it.


Mr Satanist and occultic man, you are exposed.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:07pm On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


No, you don't discard revelations 20. What you discard is your fowl understanding of it, you bloody occult man.



Bloody liar.

The first resurrection is for everyone you listed plus the ones you intentionally omitted who are those who put faith in Jesus - That includes John who wrote the book of Revelations. He was never killed and won't exist during the Great Tribulation when people will be forced to received the mark of the beast. But according to your lying tongue, he wont make the first resurrection.

Can you see your foolishness? Stop worshipping Satan


You are asking me about Job? Was Job not a child of God?

Your foolishness in thinking that only beheaded and people and those who didn't accept the mark of the beast are the only ones to resurrect is what led you to think Job won't resurrect. He will because the resurrection is for all those who believed in God according to how he wants it.


Mr Satanist and occultic man, you are exposed.

As expected, you were just barking like a rabid dog.

From what I posted up there and what John wrote, the likes of Job and other old testament saints, or those who never heard of Jesus and the gospel did not qualify for the first resurrection.

There comes the second resurrection where people who be judged according to their works, and those whose names are not written in the book of life are then casted into the lake of fire;

FATE OF OTHERS AFTER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 11-15

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


I have asked you why God would still search for people's names in the book of life if they have already been condemned. But your blockhead can't come up with anything that aligns to the scriptures...
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:12pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


As expected, you were just barking like a rabid dog.

From what I posted up there and what John wrote, the likes of Job and other old testament saints, or those who never heard of Jesus and the gospel did not qualify for the first resurrection.

There comes the second resurrection where people who be judged according to their works, and those whose names are not written in the book of life are then casted into the lake of fire;

FATE OF OTHERS AFTER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 11-15

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


I have asked you why God would still search for people's names in the book of life if they have already been condemned. But your blockhead can't come up with anything that aligns to the scriptures...

The fact that you use purple font when repeating this Bible passage of yours is enough to make readers see that you have no other option but to cling to the passage. You have no other Bible passage to support your misunderstanding of it .

By the way, how come you don't object to me calling you a Satanist? It's very obvious you are one. What order do you belong to?
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:15pm On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


No, you don't discard revelations 20. What you discard is your fowl understanding of it, you bloody occult man.

Bloody liar.

The first resurrection is for everyone you listed plus the ones you intentionally omitted who are those who put faith in Jesus -

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

That includes John who wrote the book of Revelations. He was never killed and won't exist during the Great Tribulation when people will be forced to received the mark of the beast. But according to your lying tongue, he wont make the first resurrection.

Can you see your foolishness? Stop worshipping Satan

Can't you still see you are daft? Alright, just tell us John was wrong to write these about the first resurrection; unless you really do lack understanding of English;

FATE OF THE TRUE BELIEVERS PER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 4-6

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.






alBHAGDADI:

You are asking me about Job? Was Job not a child of God?

Your foolishness in thinking that only beheaded and people and those who didn't accept the mark of the beast are the only ones to resurrect is what led you to think Job won't resurrect. He will because the resurrection is for all those who believed in God according to how he wants it.


Mr Satanist and occultic man, you are exposed.

Was Job killed for witnessing about Jesus? Will Job also be involved in the great tribulation where people will be forced to collect marks on their right hand or forehead?

Does Job meet the requirements of the first resurrection?


You keep mentioning something about the "last day". Is the "last day" before the millennial reign of Christ or after the millennial reign of Christ?


Reflect on these questions carefully and reveal your stupidity further...
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:17pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


Can't you still see you are daft? Alright, just tell us John was wrong to write these about the first resurrection; unless you really do lack understanding of English;

FATE OF THE TRUE BELIEVERS PER THE FIRST RESURRECTION Revelation 20 v 4-6

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.








Was Job killed for witnessing about Jesus? Will Job also be involved in the great tribulation where people will be forced to collect marks on their right hand or forehead?

Does Job meet the requirements of the first resurrection?


You keep mentioning something about the "last day". Is the "last day" before the millennial reign of Christ or after the millennial reign of Christ?


Reflect on these questions carefully and reveal your stupidity further...

Mr purple font


grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:19pm On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Mr purple font


grin

The expert at deflection strategies suddenly have issues with the color of the font I use to pass across my message...rather than the message itself...

You are quite predictable and boring

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:22pm On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


The fact that you use purple font when repeating this Bible passage of yours is enough to make readers see that you have no other option but to cling to the passage. You have no other Bible passage to support your misunderstanding of it .

By the way, how come you don't object to me calling you a Satanist? It's very obvious you are one. What order do you belong to?


You suddenly have an issue with the color of font I'm using.

Why exactly should I call you a Satanist when I have no evidence of you being a Satanist?

Perhaps it's strange to you ...because where you were raised, you must have been accustomed to accusing people without evidence... you rush into conclusions with no evidence and twisted views. Poor delusional m.oron...

The bolded part of your quote is a freudian slip which gives you away. So there actually orders in Satanism? Since you are an expert at Satanism... kindly tell nairalanders "the orders in Satanism"

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Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:25pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


You suddenly have an issue with the color of font I'm using.

Why exactly should I call you a Satanist when I have no evidence of you being a Satanist?

Perhaps it's strange to you ...because where you were raised, you must have been accustomed to accusing people without evidence... you rush into conclusions with no evidence and twisted views. Poor delusional m.oron...



I don't have an issue with the color of font per se, it just exposes how you are clinging to only one Bible passage.

By the way, how come you didn't use it on this post? grin
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:26pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkCornel:


The expert at deflection strategies suddenly have issues with the color of the font I use to pass across my message...rather than the message itself...

You are quite predictable and boring

The message has been busted a long time ago. But you keep repeating it and trying to force it on our eyes with the purple color.

grin

Try scrolling up and see how you painted the thread purple. grin

Posting something about doesn't automatically make it the truth.
Re: Are Those People In The Bible Before The Coming Of Jesus Also Going To Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:31pm On Apr 26, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


I don't have an issue with the color of font per se, it just exposes how you are clinging to only one Bible passage.

By the way, how come you didn't use it on this post? grin

Deflection, deflection, deflection... it's no longer about the topics that exposes your illiteracy. It's now about the colors of fonts I use and when I am to use them...

Keep on deflecting

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