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Maximus69:
'YOU WILL DIE.....' Thank God you're not the one given the assignment to execute sinners, otherwise JWs won't have the freedom to walk along the streets! Haba! all these agitation, pigheaded and crying just because JWs said their God differs from yours.

Maximus69:
'YOU WILL DIE.....' Thank God you're not the one given the assignment to execute sinners, otherwise JWs won't have the freedom to walk along the streets!
Haba! all these agitation, pigheaded and crying just because JWs said their God differs from yours.
Why not go out there and start declaring your God as the one and only, then tell people how your God WILL judge sinners?
Abi your own God no talk anything about JUDGMENT DAY?
Abeg go relax joh,chop your akpu and vegetable soup, JWs are going to live forever on this earth, they will not inherit any of those debris you called properties because 'they will build their own houses and live forever changing and renovating their house' after Jesus and the 144,000 might have cleared miscreants like you off the surface of the earth! Psalms 37:9-11,29

brocab:
Why did Jesus never address God by the name “Jehovah”? Because the name didn't come into existence until the late 1500's..
No, prior to the cross, Jesus spoke of God as ‘God’. In {Mark 12:29-30} he quoted the Shema from {Deuteronomy 6:4-5} which says, “Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.
Abba Father, is a good one-how about--“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” Which means My God My God.. {Mark 15.34}
I can't see the name Jehovah anywhere?

Janosky:
Pls stop being foolish .
Every time Jesus said " it is written", he quoted from the old testament, wherever the Tetragramatton "YHWH" ( The name of his Father and God) appeared where he quoted, Jesus pronounced his Father's name accordingly .
Go and read the Hebrew interlinear transcription of Deu6:4 & stop scamming yourself.
"Hear O Israel: Yahweh (Jehovah) our God is one Yahweh (Jehovah)".

You must love Yahweh ( Jehovah) your God... Deu 6:5 ,Jesus quoted in Matt 22:36,37, must call his Father's name , whether he pronounced it as Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us, who cares?
The point is, Jesus called and declared (made ) God's name known at a time the Jews spoke Greek rather than mother tongue, Hebrew and the superstitious belief that God's name is too holy to be uttered by mortals was slowly gaining ground

brocab:
It seem's you can't write anything, without showing your anger through your word's, I suppose if I needed any information I wouldn't ask a JW, I would turn to my Bible, which say's:
{Deuteronomy 6:5} You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
{Matthew 22:36-37} “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
This is deafeningly the answer I would expect from my Bible-the Lord is One..
{Deuteronomy 6:4} “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!
'So if Yahweh is Jehovah, than Jehovah is Jesus--The Lord is One..Don't forget God manifested Himself in the flesh-preached among the Gentiles.
{1 Timothy 3:16} And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
So every time I seem to read it from my Bible, I haven't forgotten about {John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
I find most Bibles are in-line with one another, but than I find-the only Bible that is out of place is the N.W.Translation Bible, the Watchtower calls Jesus an angel, where the watchtower bow's down before it 'as their Jehovah god!

brocab:
Why did Jesus never address God by the name “Jehovah”? Because the name didn't come into existence until the late 1500's..
No, prior to the cross, Jesus spoke of God as ‘God’. In {Mark 12:29-30} he quoted the Shema from {Deuteronomy 6:4-5} which says, “Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.
Abba Father, is a good one-how about--“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” Which means My God My God.. {Mark 15.34}
I can't see the name Jehovah anywhere?

Maximus69:
You can't SEE any unique name except 'The Lord' while there are countless Gods and Lords, yet the name Jesus was emphatic about is nothing other than 'Lord'! He also shouted My God My God why have you forsaken me? Which means he was calling upon the one that could save him! But the name of that person you don't know neither did you care to know.
Well then, praise the Lord! But don't say Hallelujah because that means 'praise Jah' a short form of Jehovah, or Halleluyah 'praise Yahweh'
It's like the name Jehovah's Witnesses are forcing down your throat is somehow surfacing in that!
Please you need to extract 'Hallelujah' from all versions of the Bible before you can truthfully declare that Jehovah 's name wasn't included during the writing!

Janosky:
"And you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength" Jesus made the quote in Matt22:37. He again spoke his Father's name. He never said "Lord".

Janosky:
Sir Isaac Newton discovered the 1Tim3:16 fraud and 1John5:7 forgeries and blew the whistle many centuries ago.

Janosky:
Brocab ,apostle of pious fraud, I'm not angry at all but your talent for lying is very obvious.
Every one knows that JWs never called Jesus "their Jehovah god". The 1 tim3:16 fraud you hang on to is not in NWT,RSV and other Bibles except the KJV and a few other.
Jesus quoted exactly what the Hebrew scroll says in Deu 6:4
"Sema yisrael; Yahweh elohenu Yahweh e-a"
Hear o Israel: Yahweh our God Yahweh is one" ,that's what Jesus said in Mark12:29.
https://holybible.com/cn/text/deuteronomy/6-4.htm

The word "Lord" has no place in Deu6:4 or Mark12:29.

https://biblehub.com/text/deuteronomy/6-5.htm

"And you shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength"
Jesus made the quote in Matt22:37. He again spoke his Father's name. He never said "Lord".

Greek text interlinear 1tim3:16
**
"And confessedly great is the of godliness mystery: Who was revealed in the flesh....."
https://biblehub.com/text/1_timothy/3-16.htm

** The word "God" was dubiously inserted there in Textus Receptus Bible such as KJV, Darby etc.
It's a well known FRAUD in the holy scriptures. No be today ee start.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Historical_Account_of_Two_Notable_Corruptions
_of_Scripture

Sir Isaac Newton discovered the 1Tim3:16 fraud and 1John5:7 forgeries and blew the whistle many centuries ago.

Janosky:
Pls stop being foolish .
Every time Jesus said " it is written", he quoted from the old testament, wherever the Tetragramatton "YHWH" ( The name of his Father and God) appeared where he quoted, Jesus pronounced his Father's name accordingly .
Go and read the Hebrew interlinear transcription of Deu6:4 & stop scamming yourself.
"Hear O Israel: Yahweh (Jehovah) our God is one Yahweh (Jehovah)".

You must love Yahweh ( Jehovah) your God... Deu 6:5 ,Jesus quoted in Matt 22:36,37, must call his Father's name , whether he pronounced it as Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us, who cares?
The point is, Jesus called and declared (made ) God's name known at a time the Jews spoke Greek rather than mother tongue, Hebrew and the superstitious belief that God's name is too holy to be uttered by mortals was slowly gaining ground

Emusan:
Liars everywhere
If Jesus actually pronounced the name of God, how come both your organization and other people agreed that the pronunciation of the real name of God has been lost centuries before Jesus came?

Wouldn't the Pharisees and sadducees use that avenue to accuse Jesus the more, for pronouncing God's name when everyone is forbidden for doing so?

Apart from allege claim where Jesus quoted the old testament by JWs, why Jesus didn't personally address God as Jehovah any where in the scripture?

Isn't it better if Jesus himself addressed God as Jehovah rather than addressing Him through a quote?

Lastly, you people always leave the key point in Jesus statement.

The verse says: "I have manifested thy name UNTO THE MEN which thou gavest me..."

But JWs have to twist it to mean "I have manifested thy name THROUGH THE QUOTE OF THE OLD WRITINGS..."

brocab:
Now who do I believe a JW or do I believe the bible-personally I prefer the bible, because a JW doesn't know how long, the name Jehovah had been around since the 1500's, "Jesus never once called His Father Jehovah" so get of your high horse and get back to reality.

brocab:
Do you see the name Jehovah ''I think not-but ''Yahweh ''Lord'' is written in the scriptures!
This is a good reason why we don't believe in the Watchtower doctrines-you would prefer to believe Sir Isaac Newton, he didn't change anything-no one had taken him seriously, as we can see, the bible is still written just as God had written it Himself-you would prefer to believe a fraudster then believe the Word of God.
This is why we have so many disagreements, you can't accept the bible as it is, but you would rather look into someone else's backyard to find some tool to destroy the truth that God had written in His Word, 'if you knew God-you wouldn't try so hard to destroy Him-but you don't know God-this is why you find it so easy to be like Sir Isaac Newton, he tried to destroy God's Word 'not knowing the power that lay's within the Scriptures ....

Janosky:
Your statement" the verse says I have manifested thy name..."
and your false claims,
"But JWs have to twist it to mean " I have manifested thy name. ..."
That's the proof that some thing is wrong with your brain.
Lie lie full inside.

Lying Pharisee, Jesus knew the actual pronunciation of his Father's name & revealed it to his disciples (Jesus said" I have made your name known to them" John 17:26, AMP) even if the actual pronunciation of God's name was lost centuries before he came.
*** Is Jesus a slave of Pharisees & Sadducees? Why should he obey a man made satanic law which forbids the pronunciation of God's name?
** John 17:26 is proof Jesus used & pronounced his Father's name.

Not everything Jesus did is written in the Bible ( John 20:30) but he himself confirmed he made known his Father's name (John 17:26).

Janosky:
** Whether you like it or not, everyone knows that Jehovah or Yahweh is transliteration of God's name ,written YHWH in Hebrew.
Lord is NOT YHWH anywhere.
But Jehovah & Yahweh is YHWH.

https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-16.htm

** LEXICON
" By common confession the mystery of godliness is great.
He appeared in the flesh......"

Here in the most ancient authorities, the word "God" does NOT occur.
We must, then,literally translate the Greek of the most famous and TRUSTWORTHY MSS as follows:
' He was manifested in the flesh'

Brocab lying Pharisee, Sir Isaac Newton spoke the truth.
You & your Trinity worshippers support your scam with the FALSIFIED version of 1 Tim 3:16.

Emusan:
Now you're shouting that God was inserted by Trinitarian.

Why was the word SON inserted by NWT in Acts 20:28 when it's not in the original manuscript?

I know you will come up with excuse that not only NWT have the word SON but don't forget the point here is from your own statement "We must, then, literally translate the Greek of the most famous and TRUSTWORTHY MSS"

Maximus69:
Wahala dey o!
Mr Maximus69, who don't doesn't want to see Christian comment on NL! Now i'm beginning to enjoy all of these!

Emusan:
Address my post if not be silent forever!

Maximus69:
You can't bully anyone here Sir,the era of the Pharisaic fears is gone now! Act 5:28

Now anybody can yarn anytime, anywhere, anyhow and any issue, this is social media Sir.

So respect yourself if truly you want to show that you're for Jesus! 1Peter 3:15

Emusan:
So there was a time you fear Pharisees. unbelievable!

So where did I forbid you not to teach in Jesus' name?



You know this is also applicable to you.



How should I respect myself?

Meanwhile, my question still remains.

Why did NWT insert the word SON in Acts 20:28 when it didn't appear in original manuscript?

After all, your brother is accusing someone of inserting the word GOD in 1 Tim 3:16 to propagate the doctrine of Trinity.

Maximus69:
I'm not obliged to address your questions Sir, if you're not an offspring of the Pharisees why are you always after Witnesses with countless questions? Luke 11:53-54

Emusan:
Meanwhile, my question still remains.

Why did NWT insert the word SON in Acts 20:28 when it didn't appear in original manuscript?

After all, your brother is accusing someone of inserting the word GOD in 1 Tim 3:16 to propagate the doctrine of Trinity.

Janosky:
* Contemporary Engl version (CEV
"..it is the flock he bought with the blood of his own son" Acts 20:28

** NET Bible
" The church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own son" Acts 20:28

*** Good News Transl'n (GNT)
" Which he made his own through the blood of his son"

1 John 1:7. 4:10,14 proves why Acts20:28 must be rendered as it is in NWT.


" The blood of Jesus,his son,purifies us from sin" 1 John 1:7
** The Father has sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins" .
1 John 4:10,14.

** It is noteworthy that GNT , CEV and NET Bible were published by Trinitarian translators but refused and rejected the trinitarian idea implied by KJV.

Emusan:
In defence of 1 Timothy 3:16 your point wasn't the list of others that translated it like KJV but the word GOD was dubiously inserted because it's not in the original manuscript.

Here you come, listing other versions having the same interpretation with the nwt, hypocrite!

I can give you different reasons why the word GOD was inserted in 1 Tim 3:16 and other translations other than KJV that have the word GOD in them.

But see how you keep exposing your fraudulent hypocritical attitude to the world.

Tell us why the word "SON" in Acts 20:28 which was not in the original manuscript was dubiously inserted by your organization?

Emusan:
If you're not obliged to address my question, why can't you just shut up your mouth and stay off of my mention?

If I'm offspring of Pharisees because I asked questions, same with you and your brothers. Only an hypocrite will accuse other of what they do best.

Before you divert our attention from the main point.

Why did NWT insert the word SON in Acts 20:28 which does not appear in the original manuscript? Is the question!

If you can't answer, then sway!

Janosky:
*Jesus the son of his Father told you God sent him to offer his blood as a ransom to save mankind ,John 3:16.
Your fictitious claims gives you away as unbeliever , a pharisee who disdain Jesus words in John 3:16. in other words, you're saying Jesus lied in John 3:16.

*** Your fellow Trinitarians (GNT, NET Bible, CEV) studied the Bible thoroughly and found out that the KJV version of Acts20:28 is against Jesus revealed truth at John 3:16 which supports 1John 1:7. 4:9-11,14.

God NEVER offered his blood to sit at the right hand of himself.
Hebrew9 :9,12.
Or you mean that God was crying out to himself: "My God, my God why have you forsaken me ?" Matt27:46.
Mr lying Pharisee, scriptures confirms scriptures.- John 3:16, 1st John4:9-11& 1:7 supported each other.
No wonder that pagan Roman army officer & his fellow soldiers get sense pass you wey dey form Christian! Matt 27:54.
Lol.

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses will never ask you countless questions for NO benefit.
On the other hand it's you and other offspring of Pharisees that has kept opening one thread or the other just to get JWs say something that you can use against them! Luke 11:54
You're always with one question or another and when JWs present their explanation, you start arguing as if all your folks claiming Christians believe exactly the same doctrine whereas you're all contradicting one another! Matthew 22:23,34 Act 23:8
Well i also joined Nairaland to make jest of JWs but i repented after noticing that it's out of contention that we're all questioning them. The other time i noticed Olaadegbu demanding that JWs should perform a sign to make him believe them! Matthew 16:1
You can continue with your agitation against them, i'm through with all the deceit Satan has been using to blindfold people into fighting against the TRUE followers of Jesus!

Emusan:
All these tactics to divert attention from the subject matter won't work, Mr hypocrite!

Tell your brother to show us where the word SON appear from the original manuscript in Acts 20:28 is what I ask for.

Since you're so dull to provide answer to my simple question.

Maximus69:
You asked and he might feel obliged to answer so you'll have his attention!

"Greek text interlinear 1tim3:16
**
"And confessedly great is the of godliness mystery: Who was revealed in the flesh....."

https://biblehub.com/text/1_timothy/3-16.htm

**The word "God" was dubiously inserted there in Textus Receptus Bible such as KJV, Darby etc.
It's a well known FRAUD in the holy scriptures. No be today ee start."

"https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-16.htm
** LEXICON
" By common confession the mystery of godliness is great.
He appeared in the flesh......"
Here in the most ancient authorities, the word "God" does NOT occur.
We must, then, literally translate the Greek of the most famous and TRUSTWORTHY MSS as follows:
' He was manifested in the flesh'"

Emusan:
Now he can oblige but can jump around peddling lie and call other fraud for what your organization also did.

Hypocrisy and JWs are 5&6

These are his word and compare it with the answers he had given:



Also;



His point was centered on the original manuscript not the reason why other translations inserted the word GOD and he went further to this a FRAUDULENT ATTITUDE.

Now this is the original Hebrew interliner of Acts 20:28:
"Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock among which you to the Spirit has set overseers, to shepherd the church of God, which He purchased with the own"

Suddenly, he change his argument from how MSS should be translated literally to the reason why it should be translated that way.

Isn't this dishonesty and hypocrisy?

Obviously, what he accused other people for as fraud also applicable to his own translation...yet he couldn't hide his face in shame.

Maximus69:
So if only he could just COVER or HIDE his face in SHAME, you will be happy?

Emusan:
Being hypocrite shows you lack integrity and desperate.

What leads people to the truth is to see issue the way it is. The moment you begin to bend issue just to satisfy your curiosity, then you're not presenting truth.

Now answer me, is there any difference BTW the people who insert God in 1 Tim 3:16 and NWT translator who inserted SON in Acts 20:28 when neither of the words was found in the original manuscript?

Janosky:
Brocab lying Pharisee, Sir Isaac Newton spoke the truth.