A40:
Lol you're making my argument for me. I'm not judging purely by decisions made by the coach. I'm just saying he is not as good as cracked out to be. Just look at the contract he gave CP3. You don't give a 33 year old a 4 year/$160m deal no matter what. I'm surprised his analytics didn't tell him that

The problem right now is the upside for the Rockets is almost nil! Should KD leave the Warriors sef it could be argued that the Rockets are somehow not best positioned to take advantage because they are capped out

Ohh and btw I won't blame him for taking a flier on Melo. It was a pretty low risk maneuver anyway

The rockets have a small window and its either pay chris paul or he bounces. Who do they replace him with then? They had to go all in especially since that deal was probably agreed before he signed.

KarnThornheart:


The rockets have a small window and its either pay chris paul or he bounces. Who do they replace him with then? They had to go all in especially since that deal was probably agreed before he signed.

Part of being a great GM is anticipating just not the present but the future. What were the odds that CP3 a year older would be better than he was last year? Would you bet on CP3 playing better in his age 34, 35 seasons when he is already showing glaring signs of decline?

Could it be that the sheer amount of workload and usage rate of Harden pretty much means he is doomed to fail come playoff time?

KarnThornheart:

I agree, its subjective. LBJ, Harden, Curry, Durant, Kawhi. Only players consistent/well established enough to be listed in this list in my books. Would have added westbrook too a while ago but.... yikes. Mind you brodie has done what jokic did this year and still doesnt make the cut. i guess your career just isnt as strict as mine. People throw the word superstar around too lightly.

The point is that was not even a Wait and see how he performs Tweet. That was a derisive and dismissive one which suggests that he didn't believe the Nuggets were a good team nor Jokic an elite player.

KarnThornheart:

You cant be a numbers guy and an experienced athlete at the same time, given how difficult that is its almost a paradox.

Analytics, Numbers, its always been there. Just that no one ever paid attention to it until recently.

Daryl Morey built the only team capable of rattling the warriors in the past couple of years and probably wouldve won it all if not for them.

Street cred has nothing to do with it. If i cite a research to a doctor and he dismisses it because he doesnt understand it or has never heard of it of course i would argue with him.

Morey has been the Rockets GM for eons. Credit for taking on the Warriors in this incarnation but he has been GM of that team for quite sometime and they didn't do much till they got Harden.

We shall see if he's able to build a roster that can compete when CP3 invariably starts aging and he cannot add any quality support cast to help Harden.

Of course credibility has a lot to do with analysis. How can he sit across to one of Kobe's teammates or Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs and say that Kobe never had an era. Won't they slap him silly?

smokers:
beginning to fall in love with nba daily. getting addicted to watching skip, Shannon Wright, Stephen a Smith and Max kellerman daily.
though yet to decide on an nba team to support any suggestions

I suggest you go with a team with actual history, like the Lakers and Celtics, and not teams that want to cheat the game like GS. Pathetic team

darkelf:


Ok. now I understand your type of person.

Black people that believe ridiculing black people make them smart, are the worst set of people in the world. In my own opinion, stay away from them.

steady986:

I suggest you go with a team with actual history, like the Lakers and Celtics, and not teams that want to cheat the game like GS. Pathetic team

This your statement makes you look like Ersan on haloperidol. Someone doing everything right is cheating the system. Lmao

ipledge10:
Black people that believe ridiculing black people make them smart, are the worst set of people in the world. In my own opinion, stay away from them.

Ooooh boohoo! Did I hurt your feelings small fry? Maybe learn not to take everything too personally. Did you miss the part where I ridiculed bird for being white? I have enough hate to go around.

smoosh20:
This your statement makes you look like Ersan on haloperidol. Someone doing everything right is cheating the system. Lmao

Lol. You sound like...Smoosh20...on paroxetine

So Chris Paul stopped curry from practicing his shot in the eve of game 6.

“According to Thompson, Curry had reserved practice time on the Rockets court on Thursday night from 7 p.m. to 8 p.m. Paul reportedly got wind of it and went to the arena to deny Curry's practice time. From Thompson:

"On the night before Friday's Game 6 of the Western Conference semifinals, after arriving from the Bay Area, Curry wanted to get some shots up at Toyota Center. The Warriors' do-it-all manager, Eric Housen, booked the court from 7 p.m. to 8 p.m. so Curry could work on his shot. Somehow, Rockets guard Chris Paul got wind. He decided to go to Toyota Center to get shots up, nixing Curry's reservations. The Warriors' point guard offered to stick to half a court, but Paul wasn't having it. Curry was kicked off the Toyota Center court."

According to Thompson, after the Warriors beat the Rockets, Curry yelled to Draymond Green, "Kick me off the court again, boy!" Green replied, "Kick him off! Kick him off!"

That guy no get sense!!

Why I love this game

etidy:
Anyone who calls Nick Wright a basketball analyst is a joker. The guy makes my ears bleed everytime I listen to him, at least with Chuck you know he's either trolling or being plain dumb but Nick Wright actually believes the nonsense he's saying.

So happy for the warriors showing up tonight. I don't mind any other team winning the playoffs this year but definitely not the rockets. I can't stand them and their shitty brand of basketball.

He is the worst analyst on TV bar none.

steady986:

I suggest you go with a team with actual history, like the Lakers and Celtics, and not teams that want to cheat the game like GS. Pathetic team

thanks bro I'll wait for the off season to see how the teams shape up. LA is a mess right now and Boston is not far away from a mess.

Khanben:


Big time chokers.
Another thing that Nick got right IMO, I recall him saying that if the rockets don't beat the warriors out and win a championship in the first two years of CP3's contract, then said contract becomes the 2nd worst contract in the NBA behind John Wall's contract.

You can see why I don't take this guy serious

A40:
That is my point. The idea that you need a regular season MVP award to validate how good or dominant a player was in a certain era is rather erroneous to me. There has to be a healthy combination of Regular and post season excellence for you to tell me a player was consistently dominant

Kobe between 1999/2000 to 2010 only had 3 seasons where he didn't finish in the top 10 in MVP voting. In fact on 6 occasions he finished top 5. When you also consider he was also the best or second best player to teams that went to 7 Finals between that timeframe and the best playoff performer overall then suggesting Kobe didn't have an era is borderline irresponsible

Same argument can be made for Tim Duncan and he had two MVP's to show for it. Tim Duncan finished in the top 10 for twelve straight seasons so how can that era be termed the Kobe era when he had more MVP's and finals MVP's than Kobe
Using MVP win shares both shaq and Duncan from that era are also ahead of Kobe

steady986:

Lol. You sound like...Smoosh20...on paroxetine

Wrong drug. Try again..

"Warriors are cheating", because they drafted and developed three all stars, traded for Iguodala and signed KD in free agency. All these nonsense about the Warriors plus your zero knowledge about the NBA and as Nick Wright's spokesman, you really need to stop talking about basketball and go learn. It's simple. And I'm not throwing insults or being immature here.

smokers:


thanks bro I'll wait for the off season to see how the teams shape up. LA is a mess right now and Boston is not far away from a mess.

A team like the Lakers will always return to glory, no matter what. But if you choose a team like GS, your happiness might just last two more years, and after that, they go extinct until probably two decades from now. And I'm quite sure you wouldn't want to wait that long.

smoosh20:
Wrong drug. Try again..

"Warriors are cheating", because they drafted and developed three all stars, traded for Iguodala and signed KD in free agency. All these nonsense about the Warriors plus your zero knowledge about the NBA and as Nick Wright's spokesman, you really need to stop talking about basketball and go learn. It's simple. And I'm not throwing insults or being immature here.

All these newbies. When they get a little knowledge about basketball they want to confront their elders. I can swear you started following bball within the last five years, like all GS fans in Nigeria. And I'm not throwing insults or being immature here.

Khanben:



Same argument can be made for Tim Duncan and he had two MVP's to show for it. Tim Duncan finished in the top 10 for twelve straight seasons so how can his era be termed the Kobe era when he had more MVP's and finals MVP's than Kobe

But Kobe waxed the Spurs almost everytime they faced. Their playoffs H2H was 4-2 with Kobe easily being the best player in Lakers uniform for probably all 4 of their wins.

Btw if you say it was Duncan's era, that is also accurate. Between 2000-2010 they were the two best players in the league within that timeframe, though I give slight edge to Kobe. Somebody used a perfect example anyway, Messi and Ronaldo

A40:

The point is that was not even a Wait and see how he performs Tweet. That was a derisive and dismissive one which suggests that he didn't believe the Nuggets were a good team nor Jokic an elite player.

Its a hot take, we see it from media personalities every day. Why should his be any different?

Morey has been the Rockets GM for eons. Credit for taking on the Warriors in this incarnation but he has been GM of that team for quite sometime and they didn't do much till they got Harden.

We shall see if he's able to build a roster that can compete when CP3 invariably starts aging and he cannot add any quality support cast to help Harden.

Of course credibility has a lot to do with analysis. How can he sit across to one of Kobe's teammates or Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs and say that Kobe never had an era. Won't they slap him silly?

I think hes played his cards right so far. CP3 is definitely going to be a big factor in their future for better or worse.

These teammates are not exactly objective themselves are they? These guys often rely on the eye test and rhetoric more than anything else.

A40:
But Kobe waxed the Spurs almost everytime they faced. Their playoffs H2H was 4-2 with Kobe easily being the best player in Lakers uniform for probably all 4 of their wins.

Btw if you say it was Duncan's era, that is also accurate. Between 2000-2010 they were the two best players in the league within that timeframe, though I give slight edge to Kobe. Somebody used a perfect example anyway, Messi and Ronaldo

My stance is I've heard of the 2000's been called the Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/ AI era and I completely agree with that cause these guys defined those years.

A40:
But Kobe waxed the Spurs almost everytime they faced. Their playoffs H2H was 4-2 with Kobe easily being the best player in Lakers uniform for probably all 4 of their wins.

Btw if you say it was Duncan's era, that is also accurate. Between 2000-2010 they were the two best players in the league within that timeframe, though I give slight edge to Kobe. Somebody used a perfect example anyway, Messi and Ronaldo

Like your analysis but it's your opinion that Kobe was slightly better, there are others who believe that Duncan or Shaq were better.

smokers:


thanks bro I'll wait for the off season to see how the teams shape up. LA is a mess right now and Boston is not far away from a mess.

I will advise u to join the team of ur favorite player. I don’t mean u should start following him all around like Lebron fans. I started supporting Chelsea after lampard performance in Euro 2004. I have been supporting Chelsea since then

A40:
Part of being a great GM is anticipating just not the present but the future. What were the odds that CP3 a year older would be better than he was last year? Would you bet on CP3 playing better in his age 34, 35 seasons when he is already showing glaring signs of decline?

Could it be that the sheer amount of workload and usage rate of Harden pretty much means he is doomed to fail come playoff time?

The truth is the future is filled with too many unknowns if CP3 leaves. At least him staying allows them to compete for a year or 2. It all comes down to Chris pauls ability to keep playing at a high level. I think his game ages well, hes never relied on athleticism. Hes a good shooter and a good passer and guys like him tend to keep playing at a very high level for a long time. They should be more worried about potential career ending injuries.

Khanben:



My stance is I've heard of the 2000's been called the Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/ AI era and I completely agree with that cause these guys defined those years.

From 2000/2001 season to 2010/2011 Kobe never failed to make All-NBA team and only finished outside the All-NBA second team once! This is who Nick Wright said didn't have an era? Naa that man is mad

Khanben:


Like your analysis but it's your opinion that Kobe was slightly better, there are others who believe that Duncan or Shaq were better.

That's their opinion to be honest and they are entitled to it. However to me, I rate Kobe ahead of both and if you look at their entire body of work for that timeframe (2000/2001 to 2010/2011) it's not hard to see why

steady986:

All these newbies. When they get a little knowledge about basketball they want to confront their elders. I can swear you started following bball within the last five years, like all GS fans in Nigeria. And I'm not throwing insults or being immature here.

Sorry o Baba, even if you're 55, I'd call you a novice and an ignorant fellow (it's not an insult. It's a description of someone who doesn't know and doesn't want to) about this basketball thing. Cos none of your predictions made sense and when we tell you, you'll argue and say folks are insulting you. If you have no knowledge about things, ask. Anyways you're wrong as usual about when I started watching the NBA and how I became a Warriors fan. You're wrong and has always been when it comes to basketball. You should ask questions more often. An elder should know these things

How is it a problem, if anyone developed interest in the NBA, a few years ago courtesy of the beautiful game the GSW play? Do you get a trophy for following the NBA for over 20 years?, given this technology age, do you think any interested person cannot find materials about the NBA over the last 20/30 years? What you wan claim that is not available on the internet. Elder ko, Elder ni.

steady986:

All these newbies. When they get a little knowledge about basketball they want to confront their elders. I can swear you started following bball within the last five years, like all GS fans in Nigeria. And I'm not throwing insults or being immature here.

A40:
From 2000/2001 season to 2010/2011 Kobe never failed to make All-NBA team and only finished outside the All-NBA second team once! This is who Nick Wright said didn't have an era? Naa that man is mad

What he means by Kobe never having an era IMO, is simply that there was no stretch of time that Kobe alone was absolutely the best player in the league.

steady986:
One thing about Houston is that they can have a bad day beyond the arc and still sneak a win (which they almost did in game 1&2), but GS, they could do it but it's always a struggle for them. It's clear in this series that if ever shoots significantly better than GS on 3s, they're likely to win that game.

Damn, I had to go back to find out that I didn't even start up this discussion with you.

steady986:

Lol, I like the way you analyse things from a glass half full perspective. But if I were you, I'd press that panic button now. Don't you get it that the threes ain't dropping? I said here before the PS that everything would eventually come down to how well the splash brothers shoot threes. Live by the three, die by the three.

Nick Wright has spoken so please come and educate us on what happened.. Or did the Warriors just cheat as usual?

KarnThornheart:


The truth is the future is filled with too many unknowns if CP3 leaves. At least him staying allows them to compete for a year or 2. It all comes down to Chris pauls ability to keep playing at a high level. I think his game ages well, hes never relied on athleticism. Hes a good shooter and a good passer and guys like him tend to keep playing at a very high level for a long time. They should be more worried about potential career ending injuries.

That is the problem. They are or were playing safe. If CP3 leaves they would have had cap room to replace him. With this coming free agent window they could have been in play for an AD or a Kemba or guys that could provide dynamic offense to take the load of Harden and bail him out when he has his inefficient nights.

CP3 and Capela spent significant time on the treatment table in the regular season and then could not deliver come playoffs. Capela a complete non factor.

You have known Chris Paul how many seasons now. Remind me how many post-seasons he's suffered season ending injuries then tell me what were the odds it would suddenly get better at 34.

CP3 relied on his quickness in the past. However if you watched the Rockets closely you would notice CP3 has already lost a step, he can barely blow by his man anymore

Now maybe he ages like Duncan but how confident do you feel about CP3 moving forward with younger cats like Dame Lillard, Jamal Murray and Steph of course battling it out in the same conference

Khanben:


What he means by Kobe never having an era IMO, is simply that there was no stretch of time that Kobe alone was absolutely the best player in the league.

This is debatable at best and at worst speaks more about the Competition.
Based on their body of work between that timeframe I posted can you show me any player who was better?

And I would ask again, are we in the Ronaldo or Messi era?

GSW were 8th in 3pt attempts this season, so this narrative that they live and die by the three is false. The rockets on the other hand were 1st and they are the sole team whose style of play fits that phrase.
The bucks who were 2nd in 3pt attempts only took that number as a means to open the lane for the Freak to dominate.
PS: sometimes I wonder what practice sessions in Houston are like. Will it just be Harden iso, then Chris Paul iso. Then that was a great practice guys.