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Apina:
Shut the fvck up! There's nothing Godly about a serial molester

SHOPPERS:
Go and read your Bible again Jo.

Paul was called, trained and commissioned.

sweetrace:
And the above is one of the problems with today’s Christianity. Greater works than Jesus is what Christians are called to. Paul was a Christian that was totally committed. The same level of commitment you’ve been called to.

AmazonTopaz:
Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

IamLEGEND1:
Well before his missionary work began, Paul was an extremely brilliant, highly educated, & talented writer & orator with a deep understanding of the Torah and Jewish customs. That's the least you'd expect from someone who was trained under Gamaliel ; probably the most important Rabbi of his time. So, in terms of education, Paul was head and shoulders above every apostle of his time.

sweetrace:
Do we need an education to have a relationship with God?

sweetrace:
Is this how Pail corrected Peter?

djon78:
Like I stated, if the case is true
Then the law should be brought hard against him.
Those that were molested should bring it to the law.
But Coming to social media is a no no

AmazonTopaz:
Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

sweetrace:
Do we need an education to have a relationship with God?

femi4:
Gal 2:14

14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

femi4:
14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

eni4real:
Religion and morality are interwoven. You may be ignore the morality offered by Religion but there is no better place to get moral instructions than in religion tenets...
You may discard it tho... As a shild of the world

agbekeOreke86:
oooooohhhh...exactly ma point!!!!you are blessed!!!!!

sweetrace:
I don’t know this pastor or if the allegations are true. What I do know is that Timi has no right to tarnish anyone’s image without any evidence. If Timi actually has evidence, the Bible says to go to a brother in sin and correct him. Not use it as an opportunity to trend on social media. Timi can tell the pastors of his church and they’ll talk to the pastor in question. Plus what is this broken heart nonsense? Don’t the women know that he is married? If they decide to sleep with him thinking he’ll leave his wife for them, then they’re indeed crazy. If he rapes them, then that’s totally different. They should sue him.

IamLEGEND1:
I think you're missing the point here. Paul's (or anyone's) education might not be relevant when it comes to his relationship with God, but it definitely matters when it comes to his missionary work & establishing doctrines. At least then people will rest, assured that he isn't just pulling random ideas out his_ass.

The same goes for today's religious leaders. It's stupid to have a Pastor who hasn't been properly indoctrinated (maybe not at all) stand on a pulpit and be expected to be taken as an authority in matters concerning his religion. It's a quintessential case of the blind leading the blind which, needless to say, has been the catalyst for the woes of today's church.

DeeMain:
Your first points were good, speaking from a biblical point of view. The rest are a complete hogwash.

A pastor is a shepherd with sheep's or flocks coming to him for guidance, direction, protection and healing. A sheep means helpless, hopeless, powerless, broken, wounded, damaged. If a shepherd feasts on his wounded or broken sheep then he is of all men most despicable.

It doesn't even matter whether the sheep seduced the shepherd or gave him or her green light because the sheep is broken. The pastor has used a position of power, authority and trust to take advantage of a wounded sister or brethren and driven them into a deeper darkness and pain than the one they are coming from . And that's abominable.

The church must find a way to renounce and rid our churches of such men instead of playing the ostrich like the Catholic church did to children who were victims of sexual abuse for many years.

And no, this is not me saying that what Timi wrote is true or not but clearing you of a misconception.

AmazonTopaz:
So before religion came in how were the people of early times faring?
You do know that in some religions child marriage is moral,killing of twins is moral? Moral to convert your enemies wife, waging war and bloodshed is moral and so on.
Oga religion and morality are two different things your brain should be the one to code. Your humanity is the decider of that.

AmazonTopaz:
Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

sweetrace:
There’s no where I wrote the pastor was right to do what he did. However, Timi wrote about the pastor leaving behind broken hearted women everywhere. My point is that the women all knew he was married before they slept with him. Why are they broken hearted? Did they expect him to leave his wife for them?

femi4:
Wrong teaching, That's what happen when you isolate yourself from other believers. You fall into wrong teaching. Even Peter that Jesus said he's building his Church upon cannot claim that "Church lives in him"

No check and balances.....you will be in all manner of error and still be doing strong head just like you are doing now

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

A pastor is a shepherd from God with sheep or flocks coming to him for guidance, direction, protection and healing. A sheep means helpless, hopeless, powerless, broken, wounded, damaged. If a shepherd feasts on his wounded or broken sheep then he is of all men most despicable.

It doesn't even matter whether the sheep seduced the shepherd or gave him or her green light. You know why? Because the sheep is broken and came to the church for help.

The pastor has used a position of power, authority and trust to take advantage of a wounded sister or brethren and driven them into a deeper darkness and pain than the one they are coming from . And that's abominable.

The church must find a way to renounce and rid our churches of such men instead of playing the ostrich like the Catholic church did to children who were victims of sexual abuse for many years.

And no, this is not me saying that what Timi wrote is true or not but clearing you of a misconception.

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

sweetrace:
agbekeOreke86 responded to my question to you with the following. I found it so apt I decided to quote her here.
“naaaaaa....at all!!!! we dnt!!!when God is really ready to arrest u like he did Paul,HE definately will....'HIS ways are not our ways,we look at the outwards,my GOD looks at the inwards..'besides,all the acclaimed wisdom and education of humans is foolishness in the sight of God....!!!!!”
Sometimes, in missionary work, one’s education may prove to be a hindrance. God knows this and gives the right leader or pastor to a group.

djon78:
In front of his fellow brethren and body of believers not in front of the whole Roman empire. Peter was trying to segregate from gentile believers and Paul corrected him before everyone.

Not social media, before people who have no regard or respect for God

kolnel:
lol
Gullible black men worshipping the white god
Still expecting to fly to heaven without a rocket or air plane just by rapture


I wonder if we are cursed for liking anything Tokunbo
Tokunbo car, Tokunbo god

Kudos to the pastor keep firing , I envy him

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

AmazonTopaz:
So before religion came in how were the people of early times faring?
You do know that in some religions child marriage is moral,killing of twins is moral? Moral to convert your enemies wife, waging war and bloodshed is moral and so on.
Oga religion and morality are two different things your brain should be the one to code. Your humanity is the decider of that.

djon78:
Like the humanists that condone same sex marriage abi?

eni4real:
Let's take Christianity, Islam and Africa trad Religion for instance. They all preach morals. But it is left to you to abide by the tenets or choose to be distraught by ills of some characters in the religion...