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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Longluk: 6:32pm On Jun 20, 2019
franchasng:
without engineering and technology, medical profession is as good as a dead corpse; who made the tetescope, the test tubes, the thermometer, the BP apparatus, the equipments you use to carry out diagnosis and operations

Its just that Nigeria is a messed nation with zero engineering innovation and contribution, because in more advanced nations, some engineering courses get more respect and pay than medical practitioners like docs.

Have you heard of biomedical engineering Robotics, etc

With the new 5G internet network now, you can perform any medical operation from even another continent without being there physically, who made it possible Engineering and technology!!!

For your info, research is on going to bring new innovation into medicine that will create artificial doctors using AI and other high tech engineering and technology, and if this breaks through, lots of doctors will be rendered jobless by engineering and technology.

All these macho amd superior formings by doctors happen mostly in Nigeria and 3rd world nations.


All over the world, doctors are usually the highest. A new doctor in Nigeria (House officer) is earning just 180k per month. If you compare the works this dudes do in the hospital, u will pity them. It's not good to judge for afar.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Eberex(m): 6:33pm On Jun 20, 2019
The extra years spent. by medical students represents grade 09, 10, 11, 12

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Areaboyfriend(m): 6:35pm On Jun 20, 2019
Doctors’ salary and entry level has been an issue of concern to alot of folks, including other healthcare professionals.
However, it is worth noting that MBBS is a double degree and used to be equivalent to a PHD.
Also, the criticality of their jobs and services earn them the right to live well and be well fed.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Longluk: 6:41pm On Jun 20, 2019
A study showed that a PhD holder spent about 285weeks to complete his program, while MBBS holder spend a total of 295 weeks. Yet you felt they don't deserved all the treatment

Pls let be fair to ourselves.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by eltata(m): 6:42pm On Jun 20, 2019
Tboysalau:
Medical school is hell
Especially in Nigeria

Level 12 is just some form of compensation
Its peanuts compared to what other doctors earn overseas
Please stop comparing First world countries salaries and a third world country's salary like Nigeria.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Collins4u1(m): 6:46pm On Jun 20, 2019
adioolayi:
MBBS na double degree....Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery.....Don't compare them with a single degree.

And you think Elect Elect is single degree

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by bixton(m): 6:47pm On Jun 20, 2019
Longluk:


All over the world, doctors are usually the highest. A new doctor in Nigeria (House officer) is earning just 180k per month. If you compare the works this dudes do in the hospital, u will pity them. It's not good to judge for afar.


Please can you highlight the type of job doctors do?
You forget, a hospital does not only have doctors.

Have you ever assumed what kind of work "bankers" do?

Every job is as important as the other but society have categorized some above others.


It's the educated ones who cause and bring undue disparity in the fields of study.
And if anyone thinks some courses are simple while some are hard,........

Kindly try farming of any nature and lets know..........

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by bryanyaouh581: 6:49pm On Jun 20, 2019
Ninethmare:
I was going through the Nigeria Prison Entry Level for graduate and I noticed that those with M.B.B.S or Doctors are automatically on Level 12 immediately they are recruited.

Other medical courses are giving more preference in Level than others

Considering the years it will take for someone on grade 08 to reach grade 12 in Federal Government Job you will know that it's quite not fair

But what confused me was Almighty Engineering courses were placed on level 08

It's quite disheartening that we that studied Engineering for 5yrs, solved all those mathematics and spent so much are placed with other courses who studied 4yrs on the same entry level which is level 8 in Federal Jobs

Please I need your taking on this

Why is M.B.B.S placed so high and Engineering not given preference?


......This is the problem Nigerians have...how can you be taking one important than the other...they shouldn't have done that...we are talking about the m.b.b.s own you are still talking about engineering..
you are supposed to talk about other professional courses and how to rant on it to stop it...cos there are other good courses that are better than what they take more important here.....and u are making noise on engineering..u are increasing the problem..(even abroad nurses are more important and paid more than doctors here)...let's assume now that you did mechanical engineering.. if I ask you now.. can you do, or make an ordinary bicycle..(I know u can't, not to talk of other automobiles)..the society is bad and the education system is bad...no engineering student in Nigeria can invent a good products...even the doctors in Nigeria can't do findings n discoveries...the problem is from the head....if the root is bad...the branches will be bad...
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by babyfaceafrica: 6:52pm On Jun 20, 2019
Anfieldboss:


Yeah you're right on that, personally I spent about 300k to get mine (i.e both NSE and COREN)
imagine!!!
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by babyfaceafrica: 6:55pm On Jun 20, 2019
Longluk:
A study showed that a PhD holder spent about 285weeks to complete his program, while MBBS holder spend a total of 295 weeks. Yet you felt they don't deserved all the treatment

Pls let be fair to ourselves.
links to the study?


and you forget for PhD
.you need:

B.A 4 yrs
M.A 2 yrs
PhD 4 yrs( may be more)

10 years..please how.many yrs is MBBS?

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Sirwallace(m): 6:56pm On Jun 20, 2019
bixton:



Wonderful statements from an engineer.
It must have been hard for your lecturers to impact knowledge on you.
It must be a waste of time and effort to have even studied such and to have graduated.
Please which of the engineering divisions do you belong to?

You are one of those morons coming really hard on the poor guy because of his opinion and maybe a little glitch in the write up. Well to set the record straight, some of us studied engineering not because of the fun of it or to cram and memorize all day like the medical guys do but for the love of technology and innovation. No thanks to the stupid government and the ineffective NSE who did not implement the SITSIE recommendation of the NSE. That would have placed us on the same level with the doctors.

Notwithstanding, with little or no support from the govt, some of us are doing so great with the useless mathematics you call it.

Google the name of africans working in silicon valley, if at all your dumb ass know where that is, and you will be amazed how the neglected nigerian engineers are making us proud.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Samcent: 6:56pm On Jun 20, 2019
Temidayo9:
Even in states level Doctors - Level 12 Lawyers- Level 10
Na so we see am o
In my State, Doctors - Level 13
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by bryanyaouh581: 6:57pm On Jun 20, 2019
Longluk:
A study showed that a PhD holder spent about 285weeks to complete his program, while MBBS holder spend a total of 295 weeks. Yet you felt they don't deserved all the treatment

Pls let be fair to ourselves.

Nigeria makes things hard for themselves.. abroad. they make things easy for their citizens and their medicine is 3years and.....but Nigeria here is 8years..
what are they doing that the whites abroad haven't done and gone far..they spe and such years..still they don't know anything nor be good in deeper practicals...upon all...you wana do treatment...most people still fly abroad for treatment.. why didn't they treat themselves here in naija....come to think of that....
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by bixton(m): 6:59pm On Jun 20, 2019
Sirwallace:


You are one of those morons coming really hard on the poor guy because of his opinion and maybe a little glitch in the write up. Well to set the record straight, some of us studied engineering not because of the fun of it or to cram and memorize all day like the medical guys do but for the love of technology and innovation. No thanks to the stupid government and the ineffective NSE who did not implement the SITSIE recommendation of the NSE. That would have placed us on the same level with the doctors.

Notwithstanding, with little or no support from the govt, some of us are doing so great with the useless mathematics you call it.

Google the name of africans working in silicon valley, if at all your dumb ass know where that is, and you will be amazed how the neglected nigerian engineers are making us proud.

It's good to hear that some morons are doing great in the profession even with the useless and dumb ass mathematics.
Kudos.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by peterwhite247: 7:02pm On Jun 20, 2019
wat abt pharmacists?
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jun 20, 2019
Nairaland Federal Government, over to you!!!

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Damfostopper(m): 7:05pm On Jun 20, 2019
Almighty engineering indeed..... engineering that can't produce calculator.... is that one an engineer??......




comparing engineering with the medical profession is sickening
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 20, 2019
111sunshine:
Start your engineering firm

Working in the civil service as an engineer is waste of time. I will rather start my company get get contracts. You only start enjoying the job of a civil servant when you finally climb to the top.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by SkengRay: 7:05pm On Jun 20, 2019
obynno7:
medical laboratory science was placed on what level?
Someone should please answer

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by kuuljay(m): 7:07pm On Jun 20, 2019
paiz:
Before Someone on level 08 can reach level 12 in Federal Jobs it will take not less than 15yrs.

I think Engineering should be above level 08 for a graduate entry

The distance is too much
9yrs bro,remember there is no grade 11 in core civil service.iam a level 12 officer I came in 2009

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Longlife234: 7:07pm On Jun 20, 2019
Engineering is now Level 9. It has been fixed since last year I think.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by bryanyaouh581: 7:08pm On Jun 20, 2019
Jaqenhghar:
Yaaawn. People want to be employed because of what they studied not because they contribite anything useful

Guy..oil dey ur head bro....
u get sense...na the problem wey naija pipu dey face be that...
what of those that travel out for just medical check ups....they don't dare go to Nigerian doctors...
they themselves know was up even the politicians know... na people wey no know go they argue am here...outside nurses are more Important n paid more than doctors..cos they offer their time and care n energy more than doctors there....even a horticulturist gets cute money there and taken important abroad sef....but Nigeria here...they talk of doctors...shit

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Ijawwomaninoyo: 7:08pm On Jun 20, 2019
Naijabigboi:
Bros... If not medicine or nursing.... School Las Las na scam.

Your testimony is just 1 in a million.

Adeleke listened to someone like you, that's why he is in and out of court instead of preparing for his inauguration.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by BravoDe: 7:09pm On Jun 20, 2019
Abeg what level is pharmacy?
PHARMNNAJI, spiceadole, DrTee1,
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Tundethegood: 7:09pm On Jun 20, 2019
Ninethmare:
I was going through the Nigeria Prison Entry Level for graduate and I noticed that those with M.B.B.S or Doctors are automatically on Level 12 immediately they are recruited.

Other medical courses are giving more preference in Level than others

Considering the years it will take for someone on grade 08 to reach grade 12 in Federal Government Job you will know that it's quite not fair

But what confused me was Almighty Engineering courses were placed on level 08

It's quite disheartening that we that studied Engineering for 5yrs, solved all those mathematics and spent so much are placed with other courses who studied 4yrs on the same entry level which is level 8 in Federal Jobs

Please I need your taking on this

Why is M.B.B.S placed so high and Engineering not given preference?


Talent overrated

Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jun 20, 2019
Sirwallace:


You are one of those morons coming really hard on the poor guy because of his opinion and maybe a little glitch in the write up. Well to set the record straight, some of us studied engineering not because of the fun of it or to cram and memorize all day like the medical guys do but for the love of technology and innovation. No thanks to the stupid government and the ineffective NSE who did not implement the SITSIE recommendation of the NSE. That would have placed us on the same level with the doctors.

Notwithstanding, with little or no support from the govt, some of us are doing so great with the useless mathematics you call it.

Google the name of africans working in silicon valley, if at all your dumb ass know where that is, and you will be amazed how the neglected nigerian engineers are making us proud.

Engineers will do better if we had more pratical training we aren't lazy and one of the smartest set of students. We blend everywhere.

Na engineering students they Do machinery for school both Art and Sciences.

Don't mind our NSE, we don't really have a strong Union like the doctors and lawyers.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by nextdoor84(m): 7:10pm On Jun 20, 2019
In the Nigerian civil service, the top guys are as follows:

DVM (Doctor of Veterinary medicine) = Level 12 (6 years in school)
MBBS (Bachelor of medicine and surgery) = Level 12 (6 years in school)
BDS/Dentistry (Bachelor of dental surgery) = Level 12 (6years in school)

These are the big boys in the civil service.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jun 20, 2019
kuuljay:
9yrs bro,remember there is no grade 11 in core civil service.iam a level 12 officer I came in 2009


Imagine 9years.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by kuuljay(m): 7:12pm On Jun 20, 2019
Temidayo9:
Even in states level
Doctors - Level 12
Lawyers- Level 10

Na so we see am o
lawyers level 9 bro.
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jun 20, 2019
nextdoor84:
In the Nigerian civil service, the top guys are as follows:

DVM (Doctor of Veterinary medicine) = Level 12
MBBS (Bachelor of medicine and surgery) = Level 12
BDS/Dentistry (Bachelor of dental surgery) = Level 12

These are the big boys in the civil service.

I have a a guy who studied vet medicine omon the guy is struggling.

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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Temidayo9(m): 7:14pm On Jun 20, 2019
kuuljay:
lawyers level 9 bro.
for my State, Lawyers start in Level 10

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