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| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Lordave: 10:02am On Jun 23, 2019 |
grrr:But he hardened the heart of Pharoa. Bible is just shít admit it and be free. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adakintroy: 10:03am On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:Your problem is that you want the bible to bend to your logic. The bible said god created this beast and gave to man to name. So they must be within range. A lot of things have happen in this world and many changes have occurred that we can't accurately measure. Even science do lots of theorizations. Which is wild guessing. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 10:07am On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:You tried, but you still need to re-read your post and make some modifications/corrections. The erroneous of them all is depicting the devil/lucifer in a manner that he knows God's plan for and about man...................... Thanks. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 10:09am On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:Here is how: First do you understand that all the pedigrees of dogs were differentiated from the same source wolves? If you do, then you will also understand that the genes you carry in your body today is is a flash drive containing the blue print for million of permutation of what could be you depending on where you find yourself and who you mate with. Even humans have been differentiated. For more understanding google "genetic optimisation algorithm" Summary: God did not need to save every specie of bears, flies, birds, etc according to what you see in the animal kingdom today. What you see today(like polar bears) is the differentiation and optimisation of what Noah had saved according to their requirement to suit their environment, engineered or effected through the process of reproduction. In between, did it occurs to anybody that beings the size of giants could have been quite unsustainable in terms of intake of organic matter as food. Unlike the increasing would population, it could have been a decreasing one from cannibalism. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by calebbintus: 10:09am On Jun 23, 2019 |
Funaki:Most ppl don't understand God. Look human knowledge cannot decipher God. Both the Christian and the Atheist are of God. You both do nit and cannot understand him. He is beyond human comprehension. He clearly said it "My ways are not your ways" "The wisdom of man is foolishNess to God". |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 10:14am On Jun 23, 2019 |
calebbintus:Two questions for you? 1)Who do you think is your creator? 2) Do you have access to your biological father/parents? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jiggaz(op): 10:17am On Jun 23, 2019 |
bixton:Satan was in the garden when God was pronouncing judgement for what Adam and Eve did. He heard when God said that the woman's seed will crush his head ... So from then he knew that God will send a Redeemer for man and he has been working hookline and sinker to Arrow that plan but he always fail.. Adam and Eve knew that a Redeemer will come for them too from that statement. So there's nothing to correct from the thread. What i posted up there is very correct. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jiggaz(op): 10:19am On Jun 23, 2019 |
grrr:Yes... The devil will always fail. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Funaki: 10:26am On Jun 23, 2019 |
calebbintus:Human knowledge cannot decipher God but we have many pastors all over trying to explain their own version of God. Are they not humans too? If God is mysterious like you said, that means nobody knows him. We're all just speculating. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 10:34am On Jun 23, 2019*. Modified: 11:06am On Jun 23, 2019 |
Funaki:The bible tells us that God created humans with free will. Just like God knew of our potentials for evil, he also knew of our potential for Good. And we are the only things he made whom he gave the option to choose! And knowing his capacity to save us again and yet again, He did not hesitate to make us. He loves us all, but for those few who would go out of their way to follow him He made us. For the Eunochs, Davids, Paul, Peter, Mary Mandaline, and maybe you, he still subjected the whole of creation to the evil that will emanate from men's heart, so that those few who will emanate goodness will be. An do not say he was shocked, no. He was at the point were we had effected one of our expected evil, it pained him, but does not mean He was not aware of what we would do. And he already had a plan. Just like he had a plan to restore the earth kingdom to (second) Adam, when (the first) Adam sold it to Lucifer for nothing by his choices. God made a plan, and had it restored thousands of years after, through Christ Jesus. That's why Lucifer could not understand the plan, he had been on the throne of earth for so long, he'd could not see how it could leave his grip. The other question you will ask. Is why make man with free will if it will bring a lot of evil. God has made so many things before man. Angels or Non-human beings on Autopilot who like robots can only do what he wants. Yet these were not sufficient company for Him. He then sought to make beings similar to him, not exactly him. Who had the mind to make choices, and the power to create. The question is what will they choose to create and do? So he set a trying ground for them to be/exist and differentiate themselves by their own choices. We may all be human, but we are different spirits, those who show the capacity for good will find further use in his next world were he plans to dwell with them in order to enjoy their companionship, those who do not will be destroyed just like chaff as they have no further use. But you need to understand His love for those who will be the out put of this process. Such a deep love, that He is happy to wait, an took time to make each and everyone "so fearfully and so wonderfully" as the bible said. Once men have differentiated themselves, the rest is just waste from the the lab, to be burnt and discarded away. So we must choose wisely what we want. Also look at the nature of the trying ground - the world. It is so difficult you cannot pretend to be good when you are evil. It is easier to be evil. Yet he grants grace that those who are good might still survive at loss of the glitters of this world. It has both physical challenges and spiritual ones. Notice, he chained up all the fallen angels whom we could not directly deal with, but left us the subdued leftover spirits of their offsprings to deal with ( Book of Eunoch). Everything around us, from the joys to the pains is well thought out and schemed. Bottom line: this is a temporal place. A testing ground. Key to understanding what I wrote is that 1. time is not a limitation to God. Either forward or backward, "A thousand years in His sight is but a second" 2. Adam or humanity is like a compressed file, slowly being decompressed in generations. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by KendrickAyomide: 10:39am On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:so why are new species not formed today according to your Logic? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by KendrickAyomide: 10:41am On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adakintroy:since they were within Range, how did they travel Millions of Miles away ? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Barrywest(m): 10:44am On Jun 23, 2019 |
grrr:Wow, This answer has renewed my faith.... You have a sound mind. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adakintroy: 10:49am On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:The same way humans started to travel million miles out themselves after the fload. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 10:50am On Jun 23, 2019 |
[quote author=jiggaz post=79594747]Satan was in the garden when God was pronouncing judgement for what Adam and Eve did. He heard when God said that the woman's seed will crush his head ... So from then he knew that God will send a Redeemer for man and he has been working hookline and sinker to Arrow that plan but he always fail.. Adam and Eve knew that a Redeemer will come for them too from that statement. So there's nothing to correct from the thread. What i posted up there is very correct. [/quote] I hope so. No sinner knows God's plan and Adam was one. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 10:57am On Jun 23, 2019*. Modified: 12:42pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:Species? Are black and white humans of same specie? I talked of differentiations not species. If their was not difference between species, God would have only saved one animal to recreate every other thing. Further Definition of specie is based on limits of sciences. We know their are animals hugely dissimilar, but cannot for sure say where genetic similarity starts and ends. All animals adapt or get optimised to their environment. It takes time but happens. Example is animals trapped in the formation of deep carvens or caves becoming translucent, compared to their relatives under sunlight. I am also worried that the prevalence of cancers in humans today might be an ongoing change due to drastic changes in what we eat. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 11:12am On Jun 23, 2019 |
calebbintus:Yes, some people still hear directly from God. Infact, most people can hear directly from God, but hardly pay attention to their dreams and visions. He has not given everyone the same ability, but he has given many. And most times hearing from Him does not start with you automatically. It starts often with you believing in Him, obeying Him, an His spirit begins to reside in you and start to reveal Him to you even beyond the words written in the Bible. Ofcourse some people start with gifts of sight from the day they were born, but they are few. If you start the Journey of seeking Him out today, you will be surprised by how much he has laid up already waiting for you. God is not fiction, he is real, physically and spiritually. Some people may not hear Him because of thing they have been associated into. It sounds as noise and blocks out the subtle communications from God. A common feature here in Africa is so called Witchcraft. It is simply a virtual world, shared by several people, were their consciousness gathers to meet, share, and received directives often for gang ups and evil. It is a place of the mind shared by several people consciously or unconsciously. Ultimately, it interferes with your dreams and blocks the voice of God out. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 11:16am On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:It takes an 100% idiot to believe Noah's story, even my illiterate old grandmother does not believe it |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by 1stbest(m): 11:20am On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide:Lol |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 11:23am On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:Oga stop saying nonsense, Noah's story is a pure myth that could never have happened.. How did Chinese, Indians, Egyptians, blacks all come from a family of Noah. What kind of scientific explanation can ever explain that, it is simply not possible. And how did the animals survive after the flood, what were the carnivores eating, the food chain couldn't have been possible... Did all the canivors in the world wait for the herbivores to populate before they start eating them for food, and how did they herbivores survived, did the herbivores wait months before the plants grow before they could start eating. And how come Egypt, Chinese dynasty never made mention of Noah, and their was never a disconnect in their histores well documented over thousand of years before the said flood to date. Stop believing nonsense because it was written in the Bible... The Noah's flood is a pure myth and only an idiot will believe it word for word |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 11:26am On Jun 23, 2019 |
Funaki:the writers of scriptures at certain times expressed their own thoughts in scripture. An example is when Job said God wasn't with Israel in the wilderness. they sometimes wrote expressing their lack of faith. Jesus is the lens with such we understand scripture |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 11:27am On Jun 23, 2019 |
kullozone:it's reassuring and full of hope |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 11:31am On Jun 23, 2019 |
quote author=KendrickAyomide post=79595281] since they were within Range, how did they travel Millions of Miles away ?[/quote] Adakintroy:And in addition to that, the drifting of the tectonic plates. So even those who did no move were moved. Some Plants and animals on the island of Mauritius are so vastly different from any thing in nearby Africa. Some parts of the British Isles have rocks with fossils from marine organism that only live in tropical waters, showing those rocks use to be in the tropics. The earth is largely liquid with severely cracked solid outer shell, which tends to swim around so gently that nobody notices. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 11:34am On Jun 23, 2019 |
driand:i don't see why you think it's wrong that satan thought messiah will come from abel salvation is the original plan. salvation is more than escaping hell. it is being brought into divinity. why do you think Adam was offered the tree of life in the garden? Christ is the life. The tree of life is not mango tree. It is Christ. to say salvation is not the original plan is to say God is plan b because God himself is salvation. the lamb was slain before creation Revelation 13:8 [8]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 11:36am On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:It's not about the atheists. You guys make a ridiculous claim and you never want it challenged or scrutinized nor questioned...then anybody who dares it is satanic. Is that not an unintelligent and irrational way of reasoning? Attack the point not the personality, Noah's story fails every test of scrutiny infact, a simple common sense speaks volumes that it did not happen but you want us to just swallow it without questions. Anything that can't stand test of scrutiny isn't worth believing, the truth is never afraid to be questioned. Like people with common sense have always asked, how did the animals survive after the flood, how come facts and histories of several civilizations point to a simple fact that at no point were all families on earth wiped out by flood...you see thess evidences with your very eyes yet can't reason.. You hear of Babylon, Egyptian civilisation, Sumeria. Even you yourself are a living evidence you couldn't have been a descendant of the Jewish family Noah or are you a Jew? This isn't about going sentimental, all these get behind me Satan isn't answering any question... Simply address the issue like a matured mind and sensible person |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 11:37am On Jun 23, 2019 |
BanevsJoker:God did not dictate or upload the Bible into the heads of the writers. they sometimes expressed their thoughts in it. God knows the end from the beginning, he wasn't shocked. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Tejiriseth(m): 11:38am On Jun 23, 2019 |
Yes you are very correct. you have to have the mind of a toddler.. Of a Child to believe Such stories. Such fair tales You are very correct. . Just take a trip to those places mentiond in the Bible and see If they even take it serious . Evidence and reasoning makes us believe things without seeing.. We have bones of Dinosaurs.. Bombs and machines from world war. Structures from ancient Egypt and Rome.. Yet the only claim for everything in the bible, is actually the bible.. How Laughable. . grrr: |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 11:46am On Jun 23, 2019 |
tstx:bros na nonsequitor full your article. reason, if the flood story is corroborated by other tribes or religion it is actually a pointer to the validity of the flood. Yes there are over 200+ accounts if a global flood. naturally the descendants of Noah would document and tell stories of it. it's not plagiarism. creation story falls into the same category Trinity is not in the Bible. a lot of Christians don't understand father, son, Holy Spirit. they are not three. God is a Father, He became a man(son) and he is not flesh but Spirit. vastly different from father mother son gods in paganism |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 12:00pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz:Ask your question, let's reason together. 1. Noah is not just a father to Jews. By Definition, Jews are the decendants of Issac, who is plenty plenty years down the line from Noah. 2. Scientific evidence tells us of a certain ice age that wipped off many species. So its not true that nothing has happen on earth that did not have same semblance of the flood to kill off all most all that was on the earth. 3. The civilisation you are pointing at are quite young in the scheme of things. Babylon ruled at the time of the kings of isreal, very much after Noah. Egypt was in power at the time of birth of Joseph, who came even after Issac talkless of Noah. Romans were in Power at the time of Christ, just 2000 years ago. Literarily counting there is at least half a millennium between Noah and Abraham. But if you consider that Noah was said to have lived for almost 1 millennium 950 years, the gap is likely much more as the years may not be counted in literary terms. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 12:02pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
grrr:Good point... But...we have evidences of events that occurred thousands and even millions of years locked up in dirt over the years..... why can't we get evidences pointing out the occurrence of a global flood even after much research.... |
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