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| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jarell: 12:08pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Good one op |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 12:09pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Judybash93:Just like any other artefact or archeological subject, evidences are rarer with time. However, there are evidences people have identified as proof of the flood, though not widely accepted. But a whole area of study called flood geology is dedicated to this. It is widely believed in the scientific community that the moon was much larger than it is now, yet there is no concrete evidence. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:Lol, and that the snake will no longer walk but crawl.... Lmaoo so the snake use to walk before.... U people ehn, bible is a tale for kids and clowns |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by alBHAGDADI: 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
driand:Your last sentence is wrong. Jesus was already planned to come and die for us even before the world was created. Revelation 13:8 (KJV) 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 1 Peter 1:19-20 (KJV) 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 12:15pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adakintroy:After the flood, Noah's family produced two black kids, male and female... Then gbam they travelled to Africa to beget the billions of people in afrca today. Then again the produced two Indian kids that trekked to India ..gbagam! Then the produced two Chinese kids that travelled to China, to start producing Chinese race... Gbagam Same for Arabs, Europeans, Kenyans, Koreans, Latinos, Fulani etc... And immediately all of them got to their respective locations, their memories were erased to remember their origin...they did not even mention it in their histories where they came from.. The Egyptians with records over thousand of years did not record it, the Chinese dynasty did not mention it. We all needed the Bible to remind us. To defend mumu story no easy... Well done sir |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 12:20pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:Ok.. another good answer but i think an occurrence of a few thousand years shouldn't be very difficult to come by since it was a global event as stated by the Bible... Moreover, what did the people know about earth's geography at that time...i think they used to believe that the earth was at the centre of the universe and an account from the story of the Israelites claimed that Joshua raised his hands and the sun stood still... My guess is.... It wasn't a global flood but a flood which occurred within their territory which they referred to their world... |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:Bros, take am easy na
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| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by owila4luv(m): 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
you said any human created by God Directly Is Called The Son Of God, and That Angels Were Not Created By God, (thats From The Top When You Were Explaining Giants) 2. Were Fishes also Destroyed? Since It Said All Living Creatures and There Was No Fish In The Ark |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 12:29pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:I will ignore your insults and focus on your questions. I believe if you do your research you will already know that genetics scientist already placed that all human beings came from the same two people, around whom they have a lot identity questions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/38613-genetic-adam-and-eve-uncovered.html So I would ask you how Chinese, Americans, Black, Red Indians came from such two people. The answers to your question is already in the open. Its the same way you and your siblings all came from your parents but have different faces, heights and hues. The scientist say they do not know these two people, the bible tells us who they are. The primary aim of sexes in reproduction is differention. A male combines genes with a different female to get an offspring who must be different from either the male or the female. Different in the sense that his gene set is a mix and match of the two. Since each gene set is a compressed file of many potential, even reminate features in one of the parents could suddenly be expressed. That is the way to solve the problem of optimisation using genetics. Otherwise we will all be hemophrodites, and reproduce our exact replicas, who will certainly not be able to survive our weak points and will die at some point of environmental challenge. If you still do not understand, take time to study Genetic Algorithm for solving Optimization problems in computing. It is used to search for and located even oil wells, it works and is amazing. One of the best forms of Bio-mimickery. 2. In case you missed it, the Dove Noah sent out, came back with a twig. So yes, they did wait in the ark until plants grew. 3. What about the marine animals? Did the flood kill them off too? While I can't be more definite, many marine animals would be trapped on land as the waters receded, and could have been food. And many would still be in pools and revers that receded gradually. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 12:46pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:I like the maturity in your response.. Now let us scrutinize this together and I will appreciate your sincere response. Noah's ark happened about 5000 years ago meaning the population of the total humans on earth 5k years ago was just 8 people... Noah's children were 3 plus 3 wives... Meaning these 3 couples alone populated the whole earth we have today..based on the story, The 3 couples produced the Chinese, Indians, Arabs, blacks and all great ancient civilizations emerged from them. According to the story. but in reality, with the facts on ground, 5000 years ago, Africa's population alone was less than hundreds of thousands.....even the tribes and cultures trace their histories to tens of thousands , at no point in time did they reduce to 0 population. Unquestionable facts on ground speaks of Egyptian civilisation with well preserved histories up to 10k years, they did not know anything like Noah.. How is it possible that Chinese dynasty existed during the period of the so called flood. If the flood truly happened, all these cultures and civilizations won't be in existence at that time... Remember, only 8 humans on earth... But on the contrary, there were cultures, civilisations, wars, disasters, festivals and hundreds of thousands of humans all over the world living their lives. In addition, simple logic says that 5000 years is far too small for even a population of 1000 people to repopulate earth to what we have today. In addition, a family of 8 can never produce the different races we have today in not even 100,000 years not even evolution not to talk of mutation ... |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:01pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:To say u mumu will be an understatement of the year, so u are comparing siblings with races. Do you know the differences in races, so why u never born Chinese.. Can a Chinese couple born an Indian.? We are talking of differences like heights, bone density, hair texture, skin texture, colour of eyes...blacks will always be Blacks and cannot born Chinese or Indian. So why after Noahs ark, that year wey that flood happen and Noah born all the races for earth today, since then, nobody don born green pikin or red human being.? Na only Noah sabi born different new races ba 2. So they waited till the plants grew, so wetin dem tiger, lion, cheetah come dey chop, dem wait for the goat to born, then the goat wey dem born come grow and born more goats... Oga if dem no teach u, you suppose know say that food chain no dey possible. 3. Now I confirm your education fees has to be refunded with interest.. So u think if the whole world becomes flooded, then salt water mix with fresh water... Stop watching Africa magic., start watching national geo... Even if u do fish farming, u will know that two different fishes can't survive under same condition.. Difference in temperature, salinity, density, affects aquatic animals and many fishes would have perished today... Oga, your brain is for thinking, so water wey cover Mount Everest,, where did that water disappear to, the water just enter ground ba and you think u are smart. ![]() |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adek15(m): 1:02pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
grrr:lolz.. I won't regret it if I know the past, the present and the future. Remember God knows everything, shouldn't he know man would go astray? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adek15(m): 1:05pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
bixton:reading the post made it seem like Satan is as powerful or even powerful than God. As ifGod is powerless when it comes to Satan,A being he created and knows his beginning and ending o |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Stupidmodes: 1:07pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Funaki:Moses wrote the aspect you quoted, a story which stems from creation. Moses was not there but wrote according inspiration of the spirit but in human nature. That is why we must commit ourselves to the knowledge of the spirit so as to allow Him teach is to understand the spirit of the word and not the letters of the word. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Stupidmodes: 1:09pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz: |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Joshmodest(m): 1:13pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Judybash93:There's actually an evidence pointing to the global flood , the Rainbow you and I see after a heavy downpour , is an evidence that God would never destroy the world with flood again !!! Just like the every tale , there's a good point to back it up at the end , E.g it's believed as a child that India beat Nigeria 100 - 1 with jazz ..and the evidence is that India were banned by Fifa for that reason ! or the tale of dog throwing tortoise wife's grinding stone away not knowing it was tortoise , and the evidence to this is dog is always digging the ground , supposedly looking for it ..... The evidence of the global flood is a "rainbow" - I'm feeling your points bro , arguing with this folks , can make you lose some pounds of reasoning !! |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:14pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz:Key to your logic is the interpretation of biblical years. A major area of contention even among biblical scholars. I am of the opinion that biblical years are not to be taken in literal sense, just like the six days of creation were the bible called days when the sun was not yet created, so obviously not earth days. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:18pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adek15:God knows man could go astray. But not all of Mankind. Book of Revelation tells us God even knows as of today who and who will meet his requirements of salvation, hence will be his harvest. And for these, he still made man with all his potential for good and evil. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 1:18pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Joshmodest:Lol..... Boss.... Abeg abeg ![]() |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:20pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Joshmodest:Lmao just imagine. A full grown man believing rainbow is a sign God won't flood the world again... ![]() Why did Yahweh have to flood the world in the first place, couldnt he have just seized the heart of all the humans he wanted to kill. He could have just taken away their breath and they all die... Or what sins did the plants and animals commit...that would have saved the stress of flooding, building an ark... And saving 2 species each of the animals. Theses are the people the Christians won't think of when their evil god killed everyone. 1. Babies still sucking breats 2. The disabled 2. Little children 4. Old men and women. Even innocent ants, innocent birds living their lives But Yahweh killed them all! Very wicked |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:21pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adek15:Well no one knows how he came about such. There are so many faults in his write up and that alone gives reason to those with no understanding to say whatever they like. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:38pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes. Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly. Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish. Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure. Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by aytuns(m): 1:38pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz:When ever I read pieces like this, I'm joyful in my spirit.. Lovely exposition. Lovely message |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 1:40pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:When being bombarded with series of logical questions, then the Christian apologetics was founded with the idea to find excuses for the ridiculous biblical claims.... This is exactly what you are doing, hiding under excuses in what is obviously a ridiculous claim. Why can't the Bible which is supposedly the perfect book of all time inspired by God himself, the almighty God not get the stories right without the need for complex explanations. Ok, aside the timinig issue... After the flood, we had two of every kind of animals left just in one locality.....but we know all animals cannot survive in same environmental conditions... How did the kangaroo survive under same condition with polar bear? did the animals start journeying to their different natural habitals all over the world... How did they travel back without no record of their fossils ever found on their way back.? How did they survive? What did the animals eat? Did the lion eat the zebra? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Joshmodest(m): 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:This Noah's story is just one out many my friend. Do you remember : * The day sun shined for 24 hours * The day water flowed everywhere and rain didn't fall * The talking donkey. * The Ascension of Jesus to the heaven through the sky , when he came through a woman's womb . * The water that turned to Ace of spades. * The Red sea that divided into two . * The fish that swallowed Jonah * The bird that brought food for Elisha . * The Angels that came to sleep.with girls they created. And the Bible says the wisdom of men , is foolishness to Yahweh.... so doubting this stories makes you a fool and a candidate of hell ... |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:I know your types in school, they will ask for extra sheet and still get "E". Wow, I've never seen a more beautiful nonsense. What you wrote up there is complete trash.... |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by grrr: 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Funaki:Well firstly, He also knew the devil will betray him why did He still create the devil? Like it was written that a person will betray Jesus, why did God still create that person? The truth is what He has said in His word "My ways are not your ways, my thoughts not your thoughts" As far as the heavens are so are His ways higher than ours. God has a plan in all of this which our small minds still tries to rationalize but sadly it cant comprehend! I know where this is leading to, that there is no God and if there is a God, why will He allow things like this to occur. You can never understand His ways. Our little questions here are not questions but a way to challenge Him Well like I said over a billion people cant be wrong |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:48pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:No one can ascribe a name to God that does not have a resemblance of any of His names as recorded in the Bible. God created man giving him the free-will to ask questions even in man's stupidity. Yet over the years God has made Himself known to man in different ways but man have refused to acknowledge it. There's no other religion that allows man to ask stupid questions even if you're a free thinker..................... Now If I may know: What are your beliefs as to the creation of the world and how did man come into being? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:50pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:I know your types in school, they will ask for extra sheet and still get "E". Wow, I've never seen a more beautiful nonsense. What you wrote up there is complete trash.... let me help u a bit, the writer of the Bible wrote from a flat earth perspective..now u understand when they say windows of heaven were opened. The Bible was written with the concept of the earth being the centre of the universe, flat earth theory, they did not understand the concept of rain formation and precipitation.....now u dig, u ignoramus. Bringing in genetic optimisation, you are shooting yourself on the foot as it is dead on arrival... DOD. If really u understand what you say, you will realize it is further disintegrate, negate, scatter, destroys and bury your own side of the argument for good...and Noah's ark remain a myth where it belongs |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by aytuns(m): 1:54pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:With all due respect sir, your answers are interesting, and I appreciate how you've been able to search out scientific proofs of biblical occurrences.. I've realised anyway that arguing with people who claim not to believe in God is usually a waste of time.. Cos the more they claim disbelief in God and the Bible, to more foolish they sound. These are people that their very existence points to the workings of a supreme being.. I wish you could write another thread talking on scientific proofs of biblical history.. It's a request. |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:55pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd:How did you arrive at the bold? |
| Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:57pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
aytuns:And you find his argument amusing talk of birds of a feather |
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