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Rashduct4luv:
Before you continue first agree you are a liar.

You wrote deceiver but yet it was planner in three different translations.
I cant continue with a liar.

You even quoted a wrong Bible verse to discredit the Qur'an.

Bye. Till you get healed from telling lies.

He’s not lying. The true meaning of that word is to deceive

Waidh yamkurubika ladhina kafaru. Liyusbiyutuka aw yakitiluka. Wayaktiluka aw yahrijuka. *wayamkuruna wayamkullah wallahu Khaerul Makirun

ArchAngelos999:
you're attempt to feign ignorance is demoralising, i believe you've been more open minded than many others. scripture given to those before Mohammed refers to Jewish and Christian canonical texts: Genesis to Revelations which is Torah, Injeel, Zaboor, Corinthians etc Pentateuch which is actually part of Torah.

I think you did a separate Tafsir(exegesis) for our Qur'an. The Qur'an does not recognise the Bible. It mentioned by name Book of Moses, Book of David, Abraham,.... Injeel was the revelation given to Jesus not written by some disciples or external persons!

The Bible today contains words that look like that of God, that of a Prophet, that of an apostle/wise men and that of foolish people.
You can bring evidence to your claim that the "scripture" means Bible.

ArchAngelos999:
Bible version? the Hebrew texts were originally written in Hebrew, the New Testament in Greek. what you call Bible versions are translations into other languages like English. naturally there are many synonyms one could translate a word in Greek or Hebrew into, that's what you call versions. versions do not mean they are saying significantly different things

It is agreed there was no written scripture during the time of Jesus. Jesus spoke Aramaic so why Hebrew and Greek scriptures.
And versions sometimes matter in a large way. The Douay version of the Bible has extra Book from that of the Protestants.

ArchAngelos999:
the whole scripture points to one person --Jesus. Moses, Abraham, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Daniel etc all wrote in anticipation of Christ. interestingly in each of that segments of scripture you divide you can see prophecies of Jesus in them. what do you think Abraham's attempt to sacrifice his son Isaac was about? do u think God will actually tell a man to kill? no. Abraham got a vision of Christ death, burial and resurrection but he did not understand it. he thought God was asking him to kill his own son.

Where did you get this information? Abraham did not understand God's revelation but he was called the father of faith?

ArchAngelos999:
scripture was already made official as at 313AD long before Muhammed was born therefore there's no controversy as to what scripture means. we don't need to invent a meaning for it. so Allah said Muhammed should verify his vision with the Bible. so you must confirm islam with that insanely powerful Bible.
shalom-salam

Let's open the History of the Bible. The Scripture was made official by who? So you mean our Prophet referred to the Book of Corinthians and other Books written to foreign churches as scriptures? Also Books written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Paul are Scriptures?
This is error 404. A far cry.

NOL2dworld:
Wow!!! The best excuse to bail out.. But, that did not change the fact that your Muhammad pee like a girl when he was alive just the way Aboki's pee.. The amazing fact was he was poisoned to death by a Jew woman and dead in the hands of Aishat is 9 year old wife. If U need prove kindly ask.. Atleast he did his best to start a blood thirsty religion. The best religion ever.

So you have moved away from telling lies to maligning the Prophet. Alhamdulillah people have seen you for who you are.

Rashduct4luv:
I think you did a separate Tafsir(exegesis) for our Qur'an. The Qur'an does not recognise the Bible. It mentioned by name Book of Moses, Book of David, Abraham,.... Injeel was the revelation given to Jesus not written by some disciples or external persons!

are you trying to differentiate the word scripture from books if Moses and others? what is that to serve, what's the point?
the quran says Allah's word is very clear. no need for leg-over when explaining quran

. what did the quran mean when it said the word scripture in surah 10:84. do you mean allah told Mohammed to ask those given a non existent scripture to verify his so-called revelations? the burden of proof is on you to prove scripture is not Bible

scripture is something written, bible is a collection of what has been written

The Bible today contains words that look like that of God, that of a Prophet, that of an apostle/wise men and that of foolish people.
You can bring evidence to your claim that the "scripture" means Bible.

and they all point to Jesus

It is agreed there was no written scripture during the time of Jesus. Jesus spoke Aramaic so why Hebrew and Greek scriptures.
And versions sometimes matter in a large way. The Douay version of the Bible has extra Book from that of the Protestants.

israel was under greek rule beginning at Alexader the great's time around 300Bc, till it became the Roman Empire in Jesus time. they understood greek perfectly, they were multilingual. in nigeria the average educated person can speak English and their local language. there were Romans and Greeks at the time of the Jesus. therefore it was originally written in Greek so that everyone, both jew and gentile could understand it.

the Torah and the prophets were available long before Jesus came on the scene. what was Jesus reading here:

Luke 4:17
[17]And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Roman Catholics included those books to support their unscriptural doctrines. none of those books were written by the apostles or their secretaries. the Catholics elevate their tradition above scripture. that's why they worship Mary which is an abomination

Where did you get this information? Abraham did not understand God's revelation but he was called the father of faith?

God cannot tell a man to commit murder

James 1:13
[13]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

the gospel was preached to Abraham

Galatians 3:8
[8]And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Let's open the History of the Bible. The Scripture was made official by who? So you mean our Prophet referred to the Book of Corinthians and other Books written to foreign churches as scriptures? Also Books written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Paul are Scriptures?
This is error 404. A far cry.

when i say official in 313AD i mean that even those in the general world who were not christians knew what Bible referred to. however it was all ready being used by christians long before that time. there's no need for gymnastics when trying to identify what Bible means. in 313AD in the council of Nicea, for Rome they recognized the Bible. there are many things your prophets got from listening to people's gist that he didn't fully understand being an illiterate.

your prophet said Jews called Ezra the son of God. this alone is proof of his illiteracy as no such thing ever happened.

Rashduct4luv:
So you have moved away from telling lies to maligning the Prophet. Alhamdulillah people have seen you for who you are.

Lies.. ? Lol.. I was born a Muslim, my Dad was a Imam in Apesin Mushin..

I grew up reading the Quran.. I will give U all the prove U need to back up my allegation about the Prophet SAW.

All he teaches is violent. If u need prove let me know.

following

tencobrown:
may you accept Islam on no distance time.

Even if I say Amina to your prayer, it wouldn't still happen in a decade.

Kokoebapluse:
. Guy why you always like to disgrace cross rat ? Who told you (Yahweh) is God? Where in ot Jesus call God (Yahweh) ? Yahweh is Idol and he belongs to isreal only.

Can you show me in your Bible where God said I am (Yahweh)? Can you show me in Bible where (Yahweh) can be found? What is the meaning of (Yahweh) ?


Allah above all nonsense. You are in great confusion

Did you read where I ever said that Yahweh is God Almighty? Why are you jumping to conclusion na? Both Yahweh and Allah and billions of beings were created by God Almighty, so never quote me wrong.

Saka4luv:
Allah is the most supreme He knows all that is hiding and over sees and hears all in and out of the Universe. Religious books clarification aside, which Religion is more homogeneous, oneness, peaceful, universal and truthful. Islam is till the only religion with no difference go to America Africa Asia all practicing same things, they prayer same way you can even enter any mosque to pray, speaks same words Arabic words of Holy-Quran, non alterations in any form as ever take place in The Quran the only Book that still stand it full original foam. Many facts and normal reasons as such for an intelligent person to see that Islam is the way because no any other religion as oneness unity perfectly same way of worshipping and same words of the Only Book in it originally foam like the Islam and the Quran.... if you reason my words you will know it not just comment but the fact. MA sallam may Allah guide us to the right path...

Common Era II
Chapter One

1. Now between the 280,500th year of the homo sapiens era and the 281,000th year, many things had happened on the earth. Many popular religions had become unpopular and many new religions had emerged.
2. Now Islam, being the religion containing the philosophies of Allah emerged within this period. In those days, a man named Moh, being a Zoroastrian, sought for a child, being married to Ramata his wife for twelve years.
3. He had rendered prayers to Mazda his god from time to time, but he had no child. Now at the twelveth year, Ramata the wife of Moh conceived and had a son in the 280,567th year of the homo sapiens era, which is also called the 567C.E.
4. When Moh had seen his son, he named him Ahmad, saying, I will thank Mazda my god continually.
5. And so was the child called Moh-Ahmad born in Yanbu, which was not far from the lake called Yanbu.
6. Now a man named Abd-Allah, being also a reincarnate of Allah, had no son. And Abd-Allah was a man of many words, having written a lot of philosophies. Now in those days, the people of the Arabians gathered before Abd-Allah to learn his words, for they regarded him as a god.
7. But the Zoroastrians and those who worshipped Illat and Hubab hated him, saying, why does Abd-Allah, a mere man, equate himself with a god? He shall die suddenly for this.
8. However, Abd-Allah continued to get stronger. And those who learnt his philosophies submitted themselves to him to be his slaves. And he said to them, all humans are my slaves, for they shall know it and become so in their souls.
9. Now when Moh had heard so much concerning Abd-Allah, he left Yanbu with Moh-Ahmad his son and came to Medina to see Abd-Allah to learn from him. Then Abd-Allah began to speak great words.
10. And he said to Moh, your son is one who shall make known my words to the world. Therefore I have laid hold on him and you cannot return with him anymore.
11. Now Moh bowed his head before Abd-Allah and said, blessed be you Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial. For you have chosen my lowly son out of thousands of people.
12. You have said, let Moh-Ahmad be the propagator of your words. Who is Moh-Ahmad my son to be privileged to bear your words? He is like an ant before you. Take him with you and use him as you wish.
13. Now Abd-Allah put his right hand on the forehead of Moh and said, your name shall be famed together with the name of your son Ahmad forever, because you have chosen not to withdraw him from my presence, but rather, you have released him to me Allah, the greatest.
14. Now return to your land in peace while Ahmad your son shall remain with me. And Aminah my wife shall take care of him. I can assure you that there shall be no sufferring come upon Ahmad your son.
15. And Mohammad shall his name be called forever.
16. Now Mohammad was Seventeen years old when he came to be with Abd-Allah. And Abd-Allah taught him all his philosophies, saying, you must observe all of it.
17. Now when Moh had returned to Yanbu his land of nativity, Ramata his wife asked, saying, where is Moh-Ahmad our son whom you took with you to Medina? Then Moh said, do not call him our child anymore, rather, call him the slave of Abd-Allah our god.
18. For he is now a slave to Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial, whose seat is in Medina.
19. Now Ramata said, what have you done O Moh? Why have you decided to take our son away to be adopted by another man who has no child? Have you forgotten how we suffered for many years before having our only child Ahmad?
20. You have behaved foolishly in this matter, O Moh, for you have exchanged the glory of Mazda the Almighty with Abd-Allah a mere human being.
21. Now bring our son back, else both you and me shall not have rest of mind in this house.
22. Now Moh said, Ramata my wife, you have spoken ill of the only one god and you shall not escape being punished for this. For you disbelieve Abd-Allah as God.
23. So Moh reported Ramata his wife to Abd-Allah, who was also known as Allah. Then Allah sent his slaves saying, go towards lake Yanbu and take Ramata forcefully, for she has spoken blasphemy and she shall die.
24. So Ramata was taken forcefully by the slaves of Allah. Then she was tied to the stump of a tree. Then Allah commanded, saying, cut off her left breast. So they did,even before the presence of Moh-Ahmad her son.
25. Also Allah said, cut off her feet. So they cut them off also.
26. Now when Moh-Ahmad saw this, he cried aloud and struggled with the executors. But they overpowered him and pushed him aside. Then Allah commanded that the head of Ramata be cut off.
27. So her head was cut off. Then she died and her blood was mixed with the food of the cows and rams. Then the people rejoiced and made merry.
28. And Allah said, she has paid for her own sins. For no one struggles with me, Allah and go free.
29. Now Mohammad(as he was called) grew as one of the slaves in the court of Allah. There he was being indoctrinated with many of the things which Allah had written.
30. Now the memory of the masacre of Ramata his mother continued to haunt Mohammad, even when he was thirty years old. And he ran away when the slaves of Allah went to fight against the Zoroastrians.
31. And Allah said to his other slaves, go after him and make sure that he does not escape. So Mohammad was caught and brought back to the court of Allah. And he was flogged with many stripes. Then he was chained like a dog and fed likewise.
32. And Allah said to him, you cannot escape from me. For you shall be the one to make known my words after I might have departed this earth. For the souls of every one is in my hands.
33. And if you refuse to do according to my will, you shall die and be cast into a burning fire forever.

You have been lied to. Allah was once a human being before |Moh Ahmad deified him. Go and read the book of Comoon Era and you will be enlightened.

tintingz:
I like this revelation.

May almighty Otem forgive us and forgive the gods(Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu, Eledumare and co).

I am not Almighty o. I am a very very very insignificant fragment of God Almighty, same way as you, Allh, Yahweh, Planets, Solar Systems etc are when we take each in isolation. God Almighty is the totality of existence and no religious god is up to one part per googleplex of God Almighty. Dem no born the combination of Jehovah and Allah well to come near God AAlmighty in power and energy.

0temSapien:
Did you read where I ever said that Yahweh is God Almighty? Why are you jumping to conclusion na? Both Yahweh and Allah and billions of beings were created by God Almighty, so never quote me wrong.

After Allah there is no any other God. Allah is creator, founder, originator, producer, manufacturer, provider, of 7 heavens and earth and all what inbetween them. Allah is God

Afospecialk:
Why ur god was robed with a great glory ?
And what's ur god relationship with Pharaoh ?

I am the god robed with great glory in that passage. Also, Atum the god of Egypt is my role model.

Kokoebapluse:
After Allah there is no any other God. Allah is creator, founder, originator, producer, manufacturer, provider, of 7 heavens and earth and all what inbetween them. Allah is God

Is it possible for God to be caged? But I am authoritatively telling you that Allah is currently in a spiritual cage, so he isn't God Almighty his creator.

Kokoebapluse:
After Allah there is no any other God. Allah is creator, founder, originator, producer, manufacturer, provider, of 7 heavens and earth and all what inbetween them. Allah is God

How did you know Allah is the only God?