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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by JKisOK(m): 6:58am On Jul 04, 2019
EASY32:

w97 5/15 p. 5-6
Should You Believe in Reincarnation?

THE Greek philosopher Plato connected falling in love with the idea of reincarnation. He believed that after the death of the body, the soul, being immortal, migrates to what has been called the “realm of the pure forms.” Bodiless, it remains there for some time, contemplating the forms. When it is later reincarnated into another body, the soul subconsciously remembers and yearns for the realm of forms. According to Plato, people fall in love because they see in their beloved the ideal form of beauty they vaguely remember and seek.

Identifying the Source and the Basis

The teaching of reincarnation requires that the soul be immortal. The origin of reincarnation, then, must be traced to those peoples or nations that held such a belief. On this basis, some think that it originated in ancient Egypt. Others hold that it got started in old Babylonia. To create prestige for the Babylonian religion, its priesthood advanced the doctrine of transmigration of the soul. They could thus claim that their religious heroes were reincarnations of notable, though long dead, ancestors.

It was in India, however, that belief in reincarnation came to full bloom. The Hindu sages were grappling with the universal problems of evil and of suffering among humans. ‘How can these be harmonized with the concept of a righteous Creator?’ they asked. They tried to resolve the conflict between God’s righteousness and the unforeseen calamities and inequalities in the world. In time, they devised “the law of karma,” the law of cause and effect—‘whatever a man sows, that shall he reap.’ They worked out a detailed ‘balance sheet’ whereby merits and demerits in one life are rewarded or punished in the next.

“Karma” simply means “action.” A Hindu is said to have good karma if he conforms to social and religious norms and bad karma if he does not. His action, or karma, determines his future in each successive rebirth. “All men are born with a blueprint of character, mainly prepared by their actions in previous lives, though their physical traits are determined by heredity,” says philosopher Nikhilananda. “A man is [thus] an architect of his own fate, the builder of his own destiny.” The ultimate goal, however, is to be liberated from this cycle of transmigration and be united with Brahman—the ultimate reality. This, it is believed, is achieved by striving for socially acceptable behavior and special Hindu knowledge.

The teaching of reincarnation thus uses as its foundation the doctrine of the immortality of the soul and builds on it using the law of karma. Let us see what God’s inspired Word, the Bible, has to say regarding these ideas.

Is the Soul Immortal?

To answer this question, let us turn to the highest authority on the subject—the inspired Word of the Creator. In the very first book of the Bible, Genesis, we learn the accurate meaning of “soul.” Regarding the creation of the first man, Adam, the Bible says: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) Clearly, the soul is not what a man has but what he is. The Hebrew word used here for soul is neʹphesh. It occurs some 700 times in the Bible, and it never refers to a separate and ethereal part of a human but always to something tangible and physical.—Job 6:7; Psalm 35:13; 107:9; 119:28.

What happens to the soul at death? Consider what happened to Adam at his death. When he sinned, God told him: “You [will] return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) Think of what that means. Before God created him from the dust, Adam did not exist. After his death, Adam returned to the same state of nonexistence.

Simply stated, the Bible teaches that death is the opposite of life. At Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, we read: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to which you are going.”

This means that the dead are unable to do or feel anything. They no longer have any thoughts, nor do they remember anything. The psalmist states: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.”—Psalm 146:3, 4.

The Bible clearly shows that at death the soul does not move on to another body, but it dies. “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die,” the Bible emphatically states. (Ezekiel 18:4, 20; Acts 3:23; Revelation 16:3) Thus, the doctrine of the immortality of the soul—the very foundation of the theory of reincarnation—does not find any support in the Scriptures. Without it, the theory collapses. What, then, explains the suffering we see in the world?

Beautiful write-up, but conclusions are suspect and contradictory of the premise you yourself laid. It also knocks heads with the Gospel, with the Koran and with reality.

The whole of the book of Revelation is devoted to the fate of the soul, both the good and the evil. The Koran talks of Al-Janna. Traditional Religions speak of the world being the marketplace and heaven the final home. Surah Al-Jathiyah 45:26:
"Allah causes you to live, then causes you to die; then He will assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt, but most of the people do not know."

Jesus Himself came as a body, in the flesh, John 1:1-14. Does it mean that when He died He was extinguished? No. Reality is that He came back, and had post-resurrection interactions with living human beings! In fact, he became a model of what was to come -and the scriptures called Him the firstfruits from the dead. Fact!
1Corinthians 15:20 "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."

In John 14, after His resurrection, He made post-life promises:
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

So the soul dies but lives to face judgement. Thereafter, it either lives with God in eternal bliss or lives forever in the lake of fire, a fate worse than death.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Harrynight(m): 7:00am On Jul 04, 2019
The teaching of reincarnation isn't true because
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 clearly says
"For the living knows that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
6. Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun."


Btw; Satan has power and can make some kind of unusual things appear so real to convince people believe what isn't real.
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by megareal: 7:05am On Jul 04, 2019
Man is a tripartite being. Body, soul, spirit. Body (flesh) dies and never wakes again. Soul is judged and either lives or die depending on judgment, spirit returns to God, it never dies it is eternal. We know spirits can be summoned as Samuel's was 1st Sam 28, meaning they are not under lock and key and may transcend worlds. My grand ma in-law claimed to be a reincarnated soul. When she was but a child, She told her family where she was originally from, the number of children she had and named them, she also described her compound, the special tree she planted to honor the birth of her first son, husband and former relatives. The family traced her claims to three villages away and realised it was truth. The manner in which she died was confirmed, and her former children when they saw her screamed and raised alarm. The whole village agreed that she was indeed who she said she was. She was calling names, asking about some folks who had died and recognized people in her age grade who were still alive. Her first children used to come visit her at her husband's house till they passed on.

The truth is there is a lot we do not know as even the Bible reveals this truth in mysteries . If the flesh dies and soul and spirit aren't dead, there is a possibility they may come back.

My occultic relatives can summon dead people to tell them things. Some call it familiar spirit which is the mirror spirit of the clean spirit of man. Deliverance ministers argue that it is the familiar spirit that is "reincarnated'' and it is the familiar spirit which people see in dreams and as ghosts. I personally am deeply spiritual and I live in a constant world of de ja vu. I always feel I have lived most experiences before and can predict an outcome based on my latent knowledge.

It is a mysterious world we live in. Things are happening but it's only the higher beings that can understand. God is a wise God and he shrouds everything in mystery.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by luvme0702: 7:06am On Jul 04, 2019
Whether we believe in reincarnation or not, it doesn't stop the fact that it exists.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by charlsecy(m): 7:08am On Jul 04, 2019
Rapmoney:
I wonder why humans have so many beliefs where the soul of man goes to or what happens to man after death but has none as regards the end of animals
Some do.
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Kk4(m): 7:08am On Jul 04, 2019
mysticgal:
3 times it happened to me

8 years ago a friend of mine died. the day she died, I never knew she had died but my parents did because we were all friends. I w3nt to the market to shop and I was surprised i saw her because, she stayed very far away from my place so I hugged her and we talked, promising to talk to her some other time. I got home and my mum told me my friend was dead. I said which friend? she said so so so of this family. I laughed because I believed she was lying. well, it turned out that, my friend was killed by her roomate and she went roaming. may she rest on peace sad

second one, In the university, I fought with this particular girl at a choir practice and that caused a rift that even if I see her, we just eye ourselves and pass.

then one Sunday I was coming from church only for her to see me, run to me and hug me but then my mind was like new year new life so we got gisting.
she asked when I'd resume school, I told her, I asked same question and she said did not know for that particular period. I even had to ask why she was at the area and she said she came to shop at Shoprite cause Shoprite was close. I told her I was staying with my friend who happens to stay behind Shoprite who was a medical student. we concluded, hugged and went our way.

I got to the house and my friends were just talking about a student of the school that was crushed by trailer in the morning while going to church but I didn't pay mind till my friend now said that the lady I fought with a year ago was dead, I said which one? the said so so so person..I fainted twice that day

happens I'm not the only one she met, she met a lot of people including her twin brother just that she appeared in different clothing, one that the person knew her for. Besides I think the reason I met was because I was going to the teaching hospital where I stayed with my friend which is where her body was deposited. And also that is behind Shoprite she claimed to be going to shop at. May she rest in peace.

Third one, A classmates mum died and for the first time in my five years of degree schooling, I decided to go for a burial. went for the stuff and even gisted with my classmate. No sobriety no nothing. only for me to go home, at night in my dreams, the lady appeared to me and asked me to give a message to my classmates. I asked why?
she said I should just do. I told her I won't. this woman kept pestering me that I asked her how do her family know I'm saying the truth. she described an event and showed me her favourite George wrapper she was wearing. I told her to go straight to her family that I wasn't doing abeg angry

Do you know I not only wake up sick, I spent almost 2 weeks in the hospital sad. Besides my people kept seeing vision of death. People said it was because I gave her hope by asking her how her family would know I'm saying the truth. but who cares?

I had to go for deliverance. i was even looking for cele church let them use came and wipe every eye I use in seeing dead people undecided

hallelujah I am free embarassed
You be dead people magnet or ghost whisperer!?
Your Chi is on another level

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by DateMynd44(m): 7:08am On Jul 04, 2019
pDudd:
Willie Willie things grin
that movie been dey send chills down my spine when I was a kid.
how I fit watch that movie again?
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by DateMynd44(m): 7:09am On Jul 04, 2019
luvme0702:
Whether we believe in reincarnation or not, it doesn't stop the fact that it exists.
stop being decieved. it doesn't
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by InvertedHammer: 7:13am On Jul 04, 2019
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No human being knows the answers to these questions. The best most people would do is to speculate. There are roughly 4200 religions in the world but with 12 only in the majority. Each religious sect will try to explain it based on their doctrine with each group claiming to have the infinite knowledge and wisdom. The fact remains that nobody knows.

What are the chances that you would have been a christian if you were born in Saudi Arabia? Zilch! Roll with whatever you find yourself and leave the rest to God.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Dnockeror333(m): 7:20am On Jul 04, 2019
JKisOK:
During a Sunday School session in a Christ Apostolic Church at Surulere, Lagos, a matter cropped up about someone who saw her dead father in dreams, giving her instructions on some matter.

Several suggestions were made to explain the phenomenon, with the Pastor dismissing it as demonic because it contradicted Heb 9:27, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment."

The Pastor rather confidently generalised and categorised as evil all stories of departed souls being seen in unfamiliar environments, and the tendency for families to name new babies after a departed relation, in the belief that such were reborn. Can such cases be pinned on demonic body thieves?

Preferring to only listen, I wished I could tell the church that Jide Kosoko, yes, the Nollywood actor, had his maternal lineage enmeshed in such a story. His cousin, my friend, told me. And I am told the man produced a movie on the subject.

Today, a lady, told me of her Dad, a wealthy Igbo businessman, was matchetted to death in ethno-religious riots in Zaria in the 1960s. When the man's pregnant wife delivered, the baby girl bore dark marks all over her body that looked like machete cuts. That baby grew and always told her siblings and mum that she was their father and husband and had returned to continue the assignment of catering for them, which he was prevented from doing by his untimely death.

Can dead people return with repaired bodies? The Bible cites one instance, Matthew 27:52-53, "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

Really, do we totally understand this subject of dead people having a second chance at life? Have we exposed everything about the cycle of life?

Abi, did the Bible not say in 1 Corinthians 13:9 "For we know in part..." and " Deuteronomy 29:29 "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law"?

What are your thoughts? Share factual experiences, please.



PLEASE, CAN YOU HELP PUSH SO WE CAN GET ANSWERS? GOD BLESS YOU GUYS AS ALWAYS

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by starbuck(f): 7:25am On Jul 04, 2019
I have modified oooo

Check my earlier comment

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by sharpwriter(m): 7:26am On Jul 04, 2019
mysticgal:
3 times it happened to me

8 years ago a friend of mine died. the day she died, I never knew she had died but my parents did because we were all friends. I w3nt to the market to shop and I was surprised i saw her because, she stayed very far away from my place so I hugged her and we talked, promising to talk to her some other time. I got home and my mum told me my friend was dead. I said which friend? she said so so so of this family. I laughed because I believed she was lying. well, it turned out that, my friend was killed by her roomate and she went roaming. may she rest on peace sad

second one, In the university, I fought with this particular girl at a choir practice and that caused a rift that even if I see her, we just eye ourselves and pass.

then one Sunday I was coming from church only for her to see me, run to me and hug me but then my mind was like new year new life so we got gisting.
she asked when I'd resume school, I told her, I asked same question and she said did not know for that particular period. I even had to ask why she was at the area and she said she came to shop at Shoprite cause Shoprite was close. I told her I was staying with my friend who happens to stay behind Shoprite who was a medical student. we concluded, hugged and went our way.

I got to the house and my friends were just talking about a student of the school that was crushed by trailer in the morning while going to church but I didn't pay mind till my friend now said that the lady I fought with a year ago was dead, I said which one? the said so so so person..I fainted twice that day

happens I'm not the only one she met, she met a lot of people including her twin brother just that she appeared in different clothing, one that the person knew her for. Besides I think the reason I met was because I was going to the teaching hospital where I stayed with my friend which is where her body was deposited. And also that is behind Shoprite she claimed to be going to shop at. May she rest in peace.

Third one, A classmates mum died and for the first time in my five years of degree schooling, I decided to go for a burial. went for the stuff and even gisted with my classmate. No sobriety no nothing. only for me to go home, at night in my dreams, the lady appeared to me and asked me to give a message to my classmates. I asked why?
she said I should just do. I told her I won't. this woman kept pestering me that I asked her how do her family know I'm saying the truth. she described an event and showed me her favourite George wrapper she was wearing. I told her to go straight to her family that I wasn't doing abeg angry

Do you know I not only wake up sick, I spent almost 2 weeks in the hospital sad. Besides my people kept seeing vision of death. People said it was because I gave her hope by asking her how her family would know I'm saying the truth. but who cares?

I had to go for deliverance. i was even looking for cele church let them use came and wipe every eye I use in seeing dead people undecided

hallelujah I am free embarassed

Your second story shook me (very emotional)

Your last story made me laugh... And was the message bad that you couldn't deliver it? I know it's not easy though... Who would want to have dealings with the dead anyway ? cheesy

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Benekruku(m): 7:26am On Jul 04, 2019
four4:
Base on our two major religion perspective (both Christian and Islamic), it is not possible they called it demonic but base on our traditional religions and believe it is possible


God bless you!
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by enemyofprogress: 7:27am On Jul 04, 2019
eneojoedu:
let's wait for the elders to come.
the elders have gone to COZA meeting with pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by formular2002(m): 7:30am On Jul 04, 2019
Friends,
We are all at liberty to believe whatever we intend to believe but the standard remains the SCRIPTURE.
It is appointed unto man to die once, after that, is judgment.
Have u ever pondered on the concept and existence of "familiar spirits"? Its basically their handiwork.
Instilling fear into humans by bringing memories and images of dead relatives.
Once in a while, the images of departed souls may come around in our dreams probably due to our lines of thoughts before sleeping but that does not validate their existence. They are all figments of our imagination. I have been looking for opportunity to see my late dad again since he passed on last year but till now, NO SHOW
He is gone and rested forever.........till we meet in glory.
Traditions of men passed across in movies, tales and write ups also contributed to the spread of this fallacy.
I have also watched many of such movies and have always pointed out to their inconsistent nature of presenting the stories.
Dear friends, a man is meant to die once, and NO COMING BACK

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by sharpwriter(m): 7:33am On Jul 04, 2019
megareal:
Man is a tripartite being. Body, soul, spirit. Body (flesh) dies and never wakes again. Soul is judged and either lives or die depending on judgment, spirit returns to God, it never dies it is eternal. We know spirits can be summoned as Samuel's was 1st Sam 28, meaning they are not under lock and key and may transcend worlds. My grand ma in-law claimed to be a reincarnated soul. When she was but a child, She told her family where she was originally from, the number of children she had and named them, she also described her compound, the special tree she planted to honor the birth of her first son, husband and former relatives. The family traced her claims to three villages away and realised it was truth. The manner in which she died was confirmed, and her former children when they saw her screamed and raised alarm. The whole village agreed that she was indeed who she said she was. She was calling names, asking about some folks who had died and recognized people in her age grade who were still alive. Her first children used to come visit her at her husband's house till they passed on.

The truth is there is a lot we do not know as even the Bible reveals this truth in mysteries . If the flesh dies and soul and spirit aren't dead, there is a possibility they may come back.

My occultic relatives can summon dead people to tell them things. Some call it familiar spirit which is the mirror spirit of the clean spirit of man. Deliverance ministers argue that it is the familiar spirit that is "reincarnated'' and it is the familiar spirit which people see in dreams and as ghosts. I personally am deeply spiritual and I live in a constant world of de ja vu. I always feel I have lived most experiences before and can predict an outcome based on my latent knowledge.

It is a mysterious world we live in. Things are happening but it's only the higher beings that can understand. God is a wise God and he shrouds everything in mystery.

You're talking bro... Chop kisses
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by goooze(m): 7:34am On Jul 04, 2019
There are lots of mysteries about God that the bible did not explain. And the same bible tells us that "the way of man is different from the way of men" Ask any pastor to explain the verse "my people perish for lack of knowledge" to you they will refer to this "knowledge" as knowibg the word of God it is a lie . The knowledge is very deep and its beyond human comprehension it includes reincarnation, seeing a dead person having a family somewhere far away, praying in certain way by calling God's real name to avert or prevent certain evil occurrences, Some of these pastors knows all these things but they won't tell you the truth. Can you believe that certain things you come in contact with everyday e.g "salt" has a lot spiritual usefulness if you have the knowledge of how it works? If you do it your pastor will tell you it's not Godly whereas it's being mentioned several times in the bible the important of salt.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Kingsaeedibn: 7:35am On Jul 04, 2019
Dead and gone... That's all
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Nobody: 7:39am On Jul 04, 2019
Lumina1702:
Christians will be quick to dismiss the idea of reincarnation as a farce but in truth it's a reality. My brief stay in the village prior to my NYSC exposed me to the stark reality of reincarnation/returning bodies in our time...My dad passed on in March 2002 and my uncle's wife put to bed a son in August.... During my first visit to his house on independence day 2010; he said to me "See your father".... The boy was a carbon copy of my dad,behaved gently and differently from others and already had same stylish writing as my dad ...I left for my house with many questions to ask on the last day

Seriously?? resemblance and behavior is ur own proof of reincarnation??
I’m not saying reincarnation isn’t real, but ur point isn’t proof... that’s just geneotypic and phenotypic transfer of traits..across generation.
A father has diabetes and cancer and a music legend and one of the son or daughter has it too and also like music doesn’t mean the man reincarnated..

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Dnockeror333(m): 7:39am On Jul 04, 2019
The man on that alter (you call them pastor's? Good) do not know what his masters knew, he is a slave, so enslaved who cocked his head in a said book.

Re-incarnation is true. We might either return in one body or in another body. We might either ascend into other worlds than these Earth or return. We are like The Great God of Creation of billion worlds other than this! For in His image, not really like Him, but His image, man was made.

"The Bible is fiction, stories, allegories, and real life situations turned inside out. Some were truth stolen from Africa against whose natural colours they turned them white to deceive many and be deceived"~ Anonymous.

What is man that He is mindful of him.....? Would he not die, live this body into another and another continuesly until he find rest?

(That REST, is what we are all seeking for in our day to day work which He the great one gave us to do.)

Religion had become a god over which mans blood are casted in tares and gory!

Religion had brought dogma, laws, and obligations and called them 'Gods'! Those are not God's, they are man made. The Great Creator of Worlds had made man a free being, free to do all things in peace if not for the evil that stair us in the face- brought about by that same religion, WE WOULD HAVE PAST THESE WORLD IN PEACE!

REINCARNATION/ RETURNING BACK or THE AFTERLIFE are true. Never you believe it if a man, a son of man, a man of flesh, told you against your thought that ANYTHING you think of, if not sinful, is demonic.

That man who said this, still sleeps under the load of Ancestral slavery, depending on books instead of the Spirit and his own heart.

Thank you.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by femi4: 7:41am On Jul 04, 2019
If animals don't reincarnate why should humans do
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by victorazyvictor(m): 7:42am On Jul 04, 2019
OJODEL10:
biblically, once some died that's all. but there is something of note in the book of hebrew concerning having trait or information from ones ancestors. HEBREW 7 : 8-108-10
8 In the one case, thetenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.9One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham,10because whenMelchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor. the soul is not coming back; but the spirit. John came back in with the spirit of Elijah. so the possibility of carrying over the information from past life is possible is not at the same time. note the behaviour of some children or people, all most similar with their ancestors. not really the soul of the any of the ancestors but one of their spirit.

God bless you richly.
I always know even when no one has come up with a face.

Spirit is of God, His nature he deposited in man, man's destiny, purpose of coming to the earth.


Therefore, when a man dies without fulfilling his destiny, God do send another body with the same spirit but different soul. Is like same wine in different bottle.

Body = Earth
Soul = Identification Number
Spirit = God
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by DimIsaac10(m): 7:43am On Jul 04, 2019
Read your Bible very well , Saul summoned Prophet Samuel dead body and he returned... They spoke.... Make some people dey talk well o.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by hope4life: 7:44am On Jul 04, 2019
Reincarnation and transmigration of soul is NOT true biblically. Op the portion you cited about souls coming out of grave after Jesus resurrection is an exception. You can't find it elsewhere. Even Samuel dead body appearing to the witch of Endor for Saul was also different. Heb.9:27 as you've quoted settles it.If this people really reincarnate why can't they continue the life they were leaving before.Stories we've heard say that once they see someone who knows them,they disappear. If you know how crafty Satan is,you will.know that it is demon who assumes the figure of the individuals to deceive people.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Fkhalifa(m): 7:44am On Jul 04, 2019
JusticeSeeker:
Have you heard about the demonic practice of necromancy?
lecture us on it please.
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Nobody: 7:45am On Jul 04, 2019
I'm interested in this topic

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by SEGLIZ: 7:45am On Jul 04, 2019
Dickhead02:
John 5: 28 disagree with this comment undecided

you've just got it wrong, miss quote and miss interprets the Bible.
that place is talking about THE RESURRECTION.
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by skukimania(f): 7:47am On Jul 04, 2019
I think reincarnation is real. There was an incident that happened in my hometown in Ekiti some years back.
A guy (tenant) living in a house had a terrible accident that afternoon, which the whole town is aware of as a result of it's horribleness and he was buried that evening being a single guy.
But, later that evening when everyone was in his/her room and the main doors (not a gated building) have been locked, this guy came knocking, fuming and asking why they would lock the door when they know he hasn't entered the house ( they all had good rapport).

It's a story building, they were awaken by his incessant knocking and they all heard his voice clearly only they were scared to open the door for him because they all went for his burial earlier in the evening of that day.

When he kept on knocking non stopping-everyone in the house already gathered downstairs- they opened the back door and ran away. None of them slept in that house that day. I am sure if they had opened the door for him, they would have all seeing him because he himself didnt know he was already dead.

But the following morning, so many people already gathered there with some of the runaway tenants and the guy was nowhere to be found again.
They can't all be lying now. Infact, everyone of them moved out of the house including the landlord's daughter.

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Infomaz(m): 7:48am On Jul 04, 2019
Biblically speaking the dead knows nothing.

Eccl 9"5-6

For the living know that they shall die: but the DEAD KNOWS NOT ANY THING , neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

The solution to death in the Bible is RESURRECTION, not reincarnation.

John 5:28-29
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Resurrection is the Christian hope.

2 Tim 4:7

I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

1Cor 15:51-54

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Thess 4:13-18

13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


THE BIBLE POSITION IS VERY CLEAR.... THE DEAD ARE DEAD!

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Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by victorazyvictor(m): 7:48am On Jul 04, 2019
hope4life:
Reincarnation and transmigration of soul is NOT true biblically. Op the portion you cited about souls coming out of grave after Jesus resurrection is an exception. You can't find it elsewhere. Even Samuel dead body appearing to the witch of Endor for Saul was also different. Heb.9:27 as you've quoted settles it.If this people really reincarnate why can't they continue the life they were leaving before.Stories we've heard say that once they see someone who knows them,they disappear. If you know how crafty Satan is,you will.know that it is demon who assumes the figure of the individuals to deceive people.

Reincarnation is real bro.....
Body is for the earth
Soul is for judgment
Spirit is for God (can reincarnate to fulfill destiny)
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by Nobody: 7:49am On Jul 04, 2019
Factfinder1:
Hebrews chapter 9:27, “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”
The assumption is that God is restricted to only 2 judgements either go to hell or come to heaven, the reality could not be further from the assumption; God has limitless ways and means of teaching an erring soul...
Re: Returning Souls Or Body Stealers: Can Dead People Return? by sharpwriter(m): 7:49am On Jul 04, 2019
starbuck:
I don't have any biblical backing but from what I have seen and experience so far, reincarnation is real, the world is really mysterious....


2018 and above really thought me about spiritualism and Co...


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The 1st encounter I had was that of my aunt (dad's younger sister)... I dreamt of an accident that killed a co tenant of mine, his car was hit out of nowhere, he didn't die instantly after the 1st somersault, then the 2nd somersault made him sustain a neck injury, I was beckoning on other neighbours including the man's wife to help me take the man to the hospital but they were all looking at me like nothing happened, then I had to get a wheel barrow to take him to the hospital (all these were in the dream).. The 1st hospital rejected him telling me that they can't treat him and I had to take him to the next hospital, which later took him in, I was like let them commence treatment, lest I forget, that particular hospital was very crowded and for sometime I started looking for a doctor to ask about the man... A man approached me and I told me that I don't belong here that I should leave asap, that he would relate with me If something good comes out of it.. I gave myself sense and left and was like after all, why would I carry the matter for head since the man ain't my hubby.. I left the hospital and met the man wife but she cared less about the incident..

I had another dream pertaining my kid after the 1st dream which made me cry and woke up and also found myself crying... I called my mom and narrated the dream to her but for our selfish reasons, we only prayed against the death of my son as I saw it in the dream.. Only for my mom to call me 2 days later, that my aunt died in an accident as exactly as I saw it my dream, the 1st hospital rejected her that she should be taken NAUTH but on reaching there, she was confirmed dead.. (A car hit her car out of nowhere and she somersaulted and a neck injury with other internal injuries)....

On reaching mortuary to see her, I went unaccompanied, BELIEVE ME I saw my aunt sitting on a rock near the building of the mortuary, she was looking at me eye to eye, I was frozen to death.. And since then I blamed myself for her death...



More stories still coming, let me attend to my kids

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Whao, this is powerful.... Though I learned the strength to get up and rebuke bad dreams after getting up during fellowship school days, you've just made me learn another. And that is : understanding that the person seen in a dream may be cloaked and masked and not be the real person an event will happen to. It may even be one's self aside siblings. And we mustn't take it lightly because the dream came for a reason and we would deny our self good not to pray for the person we saw and rebuke evil generally. I can't imagine your feelings when you saw her staring at you (Chai... Pain, sorrow plus great fear mixed together.... Sorry). Also interested in what happened after you both saw sha.... Maybe she disappeared or you take style reverse away from the place.

Thanks for cooperating and sharing this. I've gotten something today. Waiting for more though wink

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