Frankaka8:
what MESSI DID IN FIFA WORLDCUP 2014.... CR7 WILL NEVER DO IT. AS FOR SENIOR TROPHIES, ALL TANKS TO EDER AND GUEDES WHO HELPED PORTUGAL

U are so very ignorant... Everyone screams the name of maradona as the GOAT but did he score in the final of the only WC that he won ... U Messi fans are so so so so so pained that Ronaldo has won two international trophies while Messi can't manage one.... U guys keep on insulting higuain saying he is the reason y Messi failed to win an international trophy but u also failed to question y he himself failed to score in those finals... U with ur other mouth will scream that kanu led Nigeria to Olympics gold and is the reason we won it not minding that he dint score in the final but also use the other side of ur mouth to condemn Ronaldo, saying he only won it cos those players scored in the final ... U are a bloody hypocrite and totally biased

Frankaka8:
In FIFA WORLDCUP 2014, he dragged dem to final and lost. Yet won the best player of the tournamnet. Eder and Guedes helped portugal win senior trophies. Yet portugal cannot get to a worlscup semis

Lol...pls explain how Messi dragged Argentina to the final... Did he score any goal all thru the knock out?? Had only one assist... For ur info, Di Maria was the one that dragged them to the final... Unfortunately he got injured in the semi final while supplying the assist for higuain that made it 1.0 ... Argentina could not perform again or score till they lost to Germany...so stop living in ur world of illusions

Beverlyjean:


U are so very ignorant... Everyone screams the name of maradona as the GOAT but did he score in the final of the only WC that he won ... U Messi fans are so so so so so pained that Ronaldo has won two international trophies while Messi can't manage one.... U guys keep on insulting higuain saying he is the reason y Messi failed to win an international trophy but u also failed to question y he himself failed to score in those finals... U with ur other mouth will scream that kanu led Nigeria to Olympics gold and is the reason we won it not minding that he dint score in the final but also use the other side of ur mouth to condemn Ronaldo, saying he only won it cos those players scored in the final ... U are a bloody hypocrite and totally biased

I love Cristiano in his MAN UTD days tho
But why is Ronaldo the GOAT??
(That is what I cant figure out)

ReeLoaDead:
"Messi is like WiFi, he does not work well outside of Camp Nou" ... Zlatan Ibrahimovic

In Argentina and portugal's shirt respectively. Messi is still better than Ronaldo

Blabbermouth:

I love Cristiano in his MAN UTD days.
But why is Ronaldo the GOAT??

I have always maintained that individually when they both have the ball on their feet , Messi is more dangerous and better with the ball... But Ronaldo is more effective with the ball... Football is not only about mesmerising skills, it's about the end result first... If u watch Ronaldo for Portugal , he motivates the team , he inspires them... He encourages his team mates , gives them self belief... What he did in the final , no other player in football will do that stuff, Ronaldo will almost never fail when he is needed...Messi has failed to help his team in most cases when needed... The last time Messi won a big tournament was in 2015...4 years ago... U can't keep on winning la Liga and keep on mesmerising and scoring those la Liga teams and claim greatest ..that is absolute rubbish... Ronaldo lost the 2009 CL , the euro final in 2004 , the fa cup final in 2005 and the Copa de Rey final in 2013... Those are the only final he has ever lost in his entire career... But at the same time he has won countless finals ... Messi has lost nothing less than 10 finals in his career.... Barcelona has always been the best team in la Liga ,even when Ronaldo was there but Real Madrid seemed pretty good ,till he left( they became as useless as they were b4 his arrival) ... I am pretty sure that if it was Messi that joined juventus, he would not score more than 15-20 goals ...that's cos Messi is a system player... Ronaldo can adapt to any style of play

Frankaka8:
ur brain is full of relaxer

While yours is just empty!

Blabbermouth:

In Argentina and portugal's shirt respectively. Messi is still better than Ronaldo

CR7 has won for Portugal senior national team while for Argentina senior national team, Messi is busy blaming the pitch

Beverlyjean:


I have always maintained that individually when they both have the ball on their feet , Messi is more dangerous and better with the ball... But Ronaldo is more effective with the ball... Football is not only about mesmerising skills, it's about the end result first... If u watch Ronaldo for Portugal , he motivates the team , he inspires them... He encourages his team mates , gives them self belief... What he did in the final , no other player in football will do that stuff, Ronaldo will almost never fail when he is needed...Messi has failed to help his team in most cases when needed... The last time Messi won a big tournament was in 2015...4 years ago... U can't keep on winning la Liga and keep on mesmerising and scoring those la Liga teams and claim greatest ..that is absolute rubbish... Ronaldo lost the 2009 CL , the euro final in 2004 , the fa cup final in 2005 and the Copa de Rey final in 2013... Those are the only final he has ever lost in his entire career... But at the same time he has won countless finals ... Messi has lost nothing less than 10 finals in his career.... Barcelona has always been the best team in la Liga ,even when Ronaldo was there but Real Madrid seemed pretty good ,till he left( they became as useless as they were b4 his arrival) ... I am pretty sure that if it was Messi that joined juventus, he would not score more than 15-20 goals ...that's cos Messi is a system player... Ronaldo can adapt to any style of play

I learnt from your analysis. but if am toh be honest, I haven't seen a single reason as to why he is the GOAT
PS: 2009-2013 Ronaldo didn't win anything big. Drought come and go. Those finals won. in how many was Ronaldo decisive??

ReeLoaDead:
CR7 has won for Portugal senior national team while for Argentina senior national team, Messi is busy blaming the pitch

The trophy is for the whole team not a player.
Messi has a golden ball in both world cup and Copa America, Ronaldo has none.
{hope u know what a golden ball denotes}

Blabbermouth:

I learnt from your analysis. but if am toh be honest, I haven't seen a single reason as to why he is the GOAT
PS: 2009-2013 Ronaldo didn't win anything big. Drought come and go. Those finals won. in how many was Ronaldo decisive??

Ok...the ones that Messi won, which one was he decisive ?? Cos I know Ronaldo was decisive against juventus and he scored the decisive spot kick against atletico ... Mention the one that Messi was decisive in?? Pls don't mention Copa del Rey cos I dint mention those little cups in as much as Ronaldo was decisive against Barca and Messi 2ice and the fa cups and league cups in England or even the super cup against AC Milan

Blabbermouth:

The trophy is for the whole team not a player.
Messi has a golden ball in both world cup and Copa America, Ronaldo has none.
{hope u know what a golden ball denotes}

Will Argentina hang that Golden Ball in their trophy cabinet? Will Nigeria be celebrating if one of our players wins an individual award at AFCON but the fail to deliver the actual trophy .... you know the nice shiny trophy that makes you & the county the champion??
Messi and consistently failed to deliver Copa America trophies to Argentina.
Ronaldo and a bunch of relative no-names delivered ... Messi instead is blaming the pitch

Blabbermouth:

I learnt from your analysis. but if am toh be honest, I haven't seen a single reason as to why he is the GOAT
PS: 2009-2013 Ronaldo didn't win anything big. Drought come and go. Those finals won. in how many was Ronaldo decisive??

In 2009 -2013, Ronaldo was in a new real Madrid that were tryna rebuild ... Remember that real Madrid had not seen quarter finals of the CL since 2003/2004...

Beverlyjean:


I have always maintained that individually when they both have the ball on their feet , Messi is more dangerous and better with the ball... But Ronaldo is more effective with the ball... Football is not only about mesmerising skills, it's about the end result first... If u watch Ronaldo for Portugal , he motivates the team , he inspires them... He encourages his team mates , gives them self belief... What he did in the final , no other player in football will do that stuff, Ronaldo will almost never fail when he is needed...Messi has failed to help his team in most cases when needed... The last time Messi won a big tournament was in 2015...4 years ago... U can't keep on winning la Liga and keep on mesmerising and scoring those la Liga teams and claim greatest ..that is absolute rubbish... Ronaldo lost the 2009 CL , the euro final in 2004 , the fa cup final in 2005 and the Copa de Rey final in 2013... Those are the only final he has ever lost in his entire career... But at the same time he has won countless finals ... Messi has lost nothing less than 10 finals in his career.... Barcelona has always been the best team in la Liga ,even when Ronaldo was there but Real Madrid seemed pretty good ,till he left( they became as useless as they were b4 his arrival) ... I am pretty sure that if it was Messi that joined juventus, he would not score more than 15-20 goals ...that's cos Messi is a system player... Ronaldo can adapt to any style of play

If u really watch football and don't judge by news and livescore. Did u see wat messi did in WORld cup 2010??. He didn't score a single goal but!!!!! Messi was still being messi. and maradonna wasn't using any of Barca system of play.
I said this to refute the fact that Messi wouldn't fit in other system of play.
With your "Ronaldo deliver when they needed him most" cry. I could list out a lot of crucial matches where Ronaldo was nowhere to be found (even tho his team later wins some of them).
But take the UNL for example, b4 the min guedes score, the team needed Ronaldo to deliver but he didn't.
If there is something I love Ronaldo for is he is wise. Messi to turn up when u need him, the moments are always breathtaking and at the same time physically demanding. Because messi is aging those 'take the game by the scruff" moment has really reduced bcus of his own style of making things happen. All Ronaldo needs is wait in the box 18 for a tap-in or header. if they don't work, he would apply the dark art of forcing penalty.
well Messi doesn't do tap-ins and dark arts.
Take d Liverpool comeback 4 example;. Messi was so desperate to score a goal, he made abt 4 solo runs trying to do the Maradonna-messi but the little man's body wasnt like b4. Did u see d moment he Had abt 5-6 Liverpool player crowding him alone , with a lot of harsh tackles. Ronaldo would have waited for a tap-in or force a stupid penalty to make tins happen

Beverlyjean:


In 2009 -2013, Ronaldo was in a new real Madrid that were tryna rebuild ... Remember that real Madrid had not seen quarter finals of the CL since 2003/2004...

Excuses. I have a lot I could Cook up 4 messi too. The summary is this happened . So don't use d fact that Ronaldo evergreen moment was 2016-2018. to down talk Messi.

ReeLoaDead:
Will Argentina hang that Golden Ball in their trophy cabinet? Will Nigeria be celebrating if one of our players wins an individual award at AFCON but the fail to deliver the actual trophy .... you know the nice shiny trophy that makes you & the county the champion??
Messi and consistently failed to deliver Copa America trophies to Argentina.
Ronaldo and a bunch of relative no-names delivered ... Messi instead is blaming the pitch

That trophy is in Messi's name to show his individual greatness and Ronaldo has none to his name. Not even in this UNL.
So Messi performed better on national level

Beverlyjean:


Ok...the ones that Messi won, which one was he decisive ?? Cos I know Ronaldo was decisive against juventus and he scored the decisive spot kick against atletico ... Mention the one that Messi was decisive in?? Pls don't mention Copa del Rey cos I dint mention those little cups in as much as Ronaldo was decisive against Barca and Messi 2ice and the fa cups and league cups in England or even the super cup against AC Milan

2009 and 2011 UCL FINALE. deal with that first.
By the way, Ronaldo never ousted messi in any competition
And isn't a threat to Maradonna and Pele GOAT claim , Unlike Messi

Beverlyjean:


U are so very ignorant... Everyone screams the name of maradona as the GOAT but did he score in the final of the only WC that he won ... U Messi fans are so so so so so pained that Ronaldo has won two international trophies while Messi can't manage one.... U guys keep on insulting higuain saying he is the reason y Messi failed to win an international trophy but u also failed to question y he himself failed to score in those finals... U with ur other mouth will scream that kanu led Nigeria to Olympics gold and is the reason we won it not minding that he dint score in the final but also use the other side of ur mouth to condemn Ronaldo, saying he only won it cos those players scored in the final ... U are a bloody hypocrite and totally biased

hope u can now see my message clearly. Mara dona dragged Argentina to a world cup Final 1986 either with his Goals or MOTM worthy performances. Messi dragged Argentina to a world cup final with his goals and MOTM worthy performance 2014. in the final '86 maradonna couldn't score but another player stepped up. in the final 2014, Messi couldn't score and no one else stepped up. Maradonna won a world cup. and messi lost a world cup.
Maradonna won '86 golden ball. Messi won 2014 golden ball
Maradonna became the GOAT, but messi became a National Bastard (till future decides otherwise)
Can u see hw unfair stats and irrational human reasoning can be

Blabbermouth:

That trophy is in Messi's name to show his individual greatness and Ronaldo has none to his name. Not even in this UNL.
So Messi performed better on national level

No one gives a flying fork about individual honors, will you commot your pant and celebrate if Ighalo comes back with the golden boot?? ... Argentinians desperately need a trophy and Messi has failed to deliver a Copa America to them (forget WC). Meanwhile delusional Messi fan girls are busy celebrating individual honors that Messi is hanging in his house. CR7 is a national hero ... he and his mates delivered a trophy while Messi is busy delivering excuses: bad pitch, bad team doctor etc etc

Blabbermouth:

hope u can now see my message clearly. Mara dona dragged Argentina to a world cup Final 1986 either with his Goals or MOTM worthy performances. Messi dragged Argentina to a world cup final with his goals and MOTM worthy performance 2014. in the final '86 maradonna couldn't score but another player stepped up. in the final 2014, Messi couldn't score and no one else stepped up. Maradonna won a world cup. and messi lost a world cup.
Maradonna won '86 golden ball. Messi won 2014 golden ball
Maradonna became the GOAT, but messi became a National Bastard (till future decides otherwise)
Can u see hw unfair stats and irrational human reasoning can be

Go tell that to Hilary that lost to Trump despite winning the popularity vote

Blabbermouth:

2009 and 2011 UCL FINALE. deal with that first.
By the way, Ronaldo never ousted messi in any competition
And isn't a threat to Maradonna and Pele GOAT claim , Unlike Messi

U are so funny with the talk of Ronaldo never ousted Messi in any competition... It shows I was even wasting my time on a lost delusional sheep... By the way, eto 09 , Pedro 1st goal and villa winning goal made the difference in 2011, Messi just added the 3rd... He never scored an opening goal, equalising goal or winning goal in those u mentioned... That's what they call decisive

Beverlyjean:


Lol...pls explain how Messi dragged Argentina to the final... Did he score any goal all thru the knock out?? Had only one assist... For ur info, Di Maria was the one that dragged them to the final... Unfortunately he got injured in the semi final while supplying the assist for higuain that made it 1.0 ... Argentina could not perform again or score till they lost to Germany...so stop living in ur world of illusions

Di Maria kor, Di Matteo ni.... so why did Officials,Coaches and Analyst vote Messi as the BEST PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT (GOLDEN BALL). AFTER HE HAD THE HIGHEST MVP IN THE TOURNAMENT.

Frankaka8:
Di Maria kor, Di Matteo ni.... so why did Officials,Coaches and Analyst vote Messi as the BEST PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT (GOLDEN BALL). AFTER HE HAD THE HIGHEST MVP IN THE TOURNAMENT.

MVP that dint make team of the tournament... Part of the criminal offence by Blatter

ReeLoaDead:
Will Argentina hang that Golden Ball in their trophy cabinet? Will Nigeria be celebrating if one of our players wins an individual award at AFCON but the fail to deliver the actual trophy .... you know the nice shiny trophy that makes you & the county the champion??
Messi and consistently failed to deliver Copa America trophies to Argentina.
Ronaldo and a bunch of relative no-names delivered ... Messi instead is blaming the pitch

Bernado. Silva that is voted the BEST PLAYER IN THE NATION LEAGUE IS NO NAME BAH?? Below are the players that gave Portugal the 2 major trophies. Sadly no one could help Messi in 5 finals

Beverlyjean:


MVP that dint make team of the tournament... Part of the criminal offence by Blatter

The same Batter that extended vote for cr7 to win after the worldcup playoff against sweden where he shined. SO WHY HAS CR7 NEVER BEEN TO A FIFA WORLD CUO SEMIS? OR BETTER STILL WIN THE BEST PLAYER OF A TOURNAMENT? i guess, its because Eder and Guedes help him score the trophy winning goals.

Frankaka8:
The same Batter that extended vote for cr7 to win after the worldcup playoff against sweden where he shined. SO WHY HAS CR7 NEVER BEEN TO A FIFA WORLD CUO SEMIS? OR BETTER STILL WIN THE BEST PLAYER OF A TOURNAMENT? i guess, its because Eder and Guedes help him score the trophy winning goals.

Sorry to disappoint u...but Ronaldo first played in the semi final of a WC b4 Messi

Frankaka8:
Bernado. Silva that is voted the BEST PLAYER IN THE NATION LEAGUE IS NO NAME BAH?? Below are the players that gave Portugal the 2 major trophies. Sadly no one could help Messi in 5 finals

Who gave Argentina the 86 WC??

Beverlyjean:


Sorry to disappoint u...but Ronaldo first played in the semi final of a WC b4 Messi

Excuse me? What year. And which opponent? Gimme the lineup?

Frankaka8:
Excuse me? What year. And which opponent? Gimme the lineup?

U guys keep on underrating him cos u guys are not well informed... Go to Google and check... He lost to France 1.0 in 2006 courtesy a Zidane goal

Frankaka8:
Excuse me? What year. And which opponent? Gimme the lineup?

He even scored the penalty that sent them to the semis against England

Frankaka8:
Bernado. Silva that is voted the BEST PLAYER IN THE NATION LEAGUE IS NO NAME BAH?? Below are the players that gave Portugal the 2 major trophies. Sadly no one could help Messi in 5 finals

So you are trying to tell me that Chile had a more talented team than Argentina in those two finals??
Ha ha ha, Messi blaming the pitch and Messi fan girls blaming the other players & team doctor ... desperation because senor Messi forked up again
CR7 has delivered a trophy for Portugal while Messi and his cast of stars in Argentina have delivered failure after failure at Copa America forcing the Messi-fangirls to scramble with excuses

Football enthusiasts, let conduct a little experiment, shall we?

Remove Messi from the picture. Like completely. Alright. Bring Ronaldo forward. I mean the Portuguese Ronaldo. Compare him with all-time greats such as Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo de Lima, Rivaldo. Now be honest with yourself. With all those trophies he has won for both club and country, would he measure up with these five I just mentioned? Just try your best to be honest.

Now, bring in Messi again. Here's a man whose profile lacks a major international trophy, and who might never win one throughout his career. Still, he's in this league of greats....in fact he's considered better than some of that five, if not better than all. Trophies are hallmarks of a great football career, but it is important to also note that they are the pleasing product of brilliant teamwork and coordination. That's the mistake pundits make in argument, either due to ignorance or some other factors. Afterall, if the GOAT title would be determined solely by the number of trophies won, even Dani Alves would stake a claim.

In conclusion, there's a reason why Messi would be mentioned in the list of all-time football greats. He's clearly the best individual footballer the world has ever seen. A complete package- playmaking, dribbling, assists, goalscoring...only Maradona came close. Pele wasn't that phenomenal(I've watched some of his clips and I don't see what's so special about him). Zidane was majorly a playmaker. Ronaldo de Lima never reached his full potential due to injuries. C. Ronaldo...an elite goalscorer, but an average playmaker. If the GOAT title is an individual award, the best individual player ever is the one who deserves it. And in my opinion, that player is Messi.

Jeferious:
Football enthusiasts, let conduct a little experiment, shall we?

Remove Messi from the picture. Like completely. Alright. Bring Ronaldo forward. I mean the Portuguese Ronaldo. Compare him with all-time greats such as Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo de Lima, Rivaldo. Now be honest with yourself. With all those trophies he has won for both club and country, would he measure up with these five I just mentioned? Just try your best to be honest.

Now, bring in Messi again. Here's a man whose profile lacks a major international trophy, and who might never win one throughout his career. Still, he's in this league of greats....in fact he's considered better than some of that five, if not better than all. Trophies are hallmarks of a great football career, but it is important to also note that they are the pleasing product of brilliant teamwork and coordination. That's the mistake pundits make in argument, either due to ignorance or some other factors. Afterall, if the GOAT title would be determined solely by the number and trophies won, even Dani Alves would stake a claim.

In conclusion, there's a reason why Messi would be mentioned in the list of all-time football greats. He's clearly the best individual footballer the world has ever seen. And if the GOAT title is an individual award, the best individual player ever is the one who deserves it. And in my opinion, that player is Messi.

I still don't agree with u... Forget alves in this discussion cos u are meant to understand that in every team, there is that one great player that all have their eyes on , u can't bring in alves to that effect... Henry win everything as well in football just like zidane but zidane will always b ahead of him... Ask urself this question, y were those players mentioned ?? Now Pele was outstanding for Brazil and Santos ,won titles with them, maradona was outstanding as well , won titles with Argentina ( 2 Copa America and a WC) and lowly Napoli , zidane WC ,euros ,WC and champions League with real Madrid and league titles with juventus, don't forget when he said he had to win the CL to b mentioned amongst the greats after loosing back to back CL final with juventus ... Cr7 is the first player in history to win league titles in the 3 major Leagues and was the outstanding player in those teams, winning top scorer for those teams and winning best player in those leagues, also won the euros and nations league with lowly Portugal, a team that had never featured in any major final in history till he was called up , a team that had only previously featured in 3 WCs b4 he joined the team .... He is the second highest goal scorer in the history of world football ahead of GERD Muller (Germany ), Pele ( Brazil) and Messi ( Argentina) ... It's unfair to say that a Messi that has only done extremely well for Barcelona is a better player... Ronaldo wasn't just in those teams , he was the best player in those teams ... U guys are just so hateful and so biased