PastorAIO:


But the OP did not drag anybody here. You are the one that used your 2 leg to waka come here.

PastorAIO:


This is simply not true. Untrue on so many different levels.

For example many of us, obviously you are not included here, are compelled by facts and strong arguments to change our way of thinking and our choices. That you think that your thoughts are a matter of personal choice sheds a lot of light in many of your most idiotic utterances.

Then on another level it known scientifically that many of our supposed choices have actually been determined beforehand in our unconscious.

Originakalokalo:


Thanks.

God bless you.

PastorAIO:






Hopefully you'll understand. The dodgy reasoning is based on your conflating the pity the OP says he has for christians and the pity you have for the bereaved.

The irony part is that you are so upset that someone is proselytizing to 'christians' out of pity, saying people should be free to follow their preferred choices yet you can say this:



That's called hypocrisy.

Ihedinobi3:

LOL. I knew the ad hominem couldn't be that far behind.

As for your argument, who does the changing of our way of thinking and choices?

And who or what determined our choices in our "unconscious"? In fact, what is our "unconscious"?

this study is the first to show unconscious predictive activity in a region associated with decision making—the prefrontal cortex—according to Haynes. The results support the notion that unconscious brain activity comes first and conscious experience follows as a result, says Patrick Haggard of University College London, who was not involved with the study. “We all think that we have a conscious free will,” he says. “However, this study shows that actions come from preconscious brain activity patterns and not from the person consciously thinking about what they are going to do.”

Ihedinobi3:

The title went:

"I Really Pity Christians".

The post is in a public forum.

What more do you need me to say?

Ihedinobi3:

What can I say? I can't read for you, PastorAIO. I said:

"Christians think that you, PastorAIO, are spiritually lost and misguided so they pity you and preach to you and pray for you. If you think that it is okay to try to save Christians from their own choices, then it is only fair to accept that their preaching to you and praying for you is equally okay too."

That means that what you are supporting and Frank317 is doing here is hypocrisy. You can't in one breath complain that Christians stop you on the road and preach to you and in the next start threads to help Christians realize the error of their beliefs and "confusion".

There is no difference between "one" pity and the other.

Finally, how did you decide that I'm upset? Are you omniscient?

PastorAIO:


You are really trying to milk this fact that he told you that Christians stop him to preach to him. But of course you must lie. you now claim that he started this thread after he mentioned being stopped by christians.

Actually he mentioned being accosted by christians in response to what you said and not as a reason for why he started this thread.

And yes, there is a difference between one pity and the other. In one you could do nothing to alleviate the situation and in the other you can help to alleviate the condition. That is a big difference and central to the point I was making.

I get prayed for and preached to all the time by all sorts, from muslims, to catholics, to penterascals etc etc etc. In fact most of the time I enjoy the conversations, as you can probably tell I love discussing religion.


I am pretty close to omniscience, yes.

Ihedinobi3:

LOL. I knew the ad hominem couldn't be that far behind.

As for your argument, who does the changing of our way of thinking and choices?

And who or what determined our choices in our "unconscious"? In fact, what is our "unconscious"?

PastorAIO:


I'll hand you over to experts.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unconscious-decisions/



You forget where you were calling me a weirdo on the other thread. Continue feeling sorry for yourself, you hypocrite. Ad hominem ko, Ad hominem ni.

PastorAIO:


I don't need you to say anything.
Say nothing until you read the OP perhaps. But only if you care to, personally I'm not bothered.

There are millions of religious tracts published in the public domain. Many of those literature attack other religions and atheists etc. I repeat, nobody forced you to enter this thread. If you feel insulted by his pity just pass him by. I'm sure neither of you will miss each other.

PastorAIO:


You are really trying to milk this fact that he told you that Christians stop him to preach to him. But of course you must lie. you now claim that he started this thread after he mentioned being stopped by christians.

Actually he mentioned being accosted by christians in response to what you said and not as a reason for why he started this thread.

And yes, there is a difference between one pity and the other. In one you could do nothing to alleviate the situation and in the other you can help to alleviate the condition. That is a big difference and central to the point I was making.

I get prayed for and preached to all the time by all sorts, from muslims, to catholics, to penterascals etc etc etc. In fact most of the time I enjoy the conversations, as you can probably tell I love discussing religion.


I am pretty close to omniscience, yes.

frank317:


See ur life...ur hypocrisy has been exposed

Ihedinobi3:

Why does it take some scientists so long to figure out the obvious? Then when they do, they totally misinterpret it too. And then acolytes like you begin to spread the nonsense everywhere.

Ihedinobi3:

As for calling you a weirdo, I remember saying that you are weird. Perhaps the two are the same. But here you are justifying your ad hominem with my staying that you are weird. Do you want a list of all the insults that you were vomiting at me on that thread? And you think my saying you are weird is justification enough for you to bring the same bile to another thread?

Ihedinobi3:


I have explained what I was doing in another post.

Your difference is spurious. The same way that you might give alms or spend time comforting the bereaved is the same way that you might try to argue someone out of what you may perceive as intellectually lost. You may not reverse the poverty or the bereavement but you also may not succeed at "finding" the intellectually lost.

I don't know about you loving to discuss religion. In my experience with you, discussion was a barrage of insults and personal attacks from you. So, I can't really credit what you say here. Nor do I find it particularly relevant to the issue since Frank317 whose position you are defending was not as enthused about Christian "harassment" (my term, not his) as you claim to be.

Congratulations on your achievement, PastorAIO.

Ihedinobi3:

I don't expect you to see the truth much less agree with it.

But would he ever admit that? Truth, any kind of truth, is very unpalatable for your kind, PastorAIO.

Ihedinobi3:

The Bible expressly told me not to offer the Truth to people who don't want it. So I try not to. If other Christians are doing it, well, we all make mistakes.

Ihedinobi3:

I don't know about you loving to discuss religion. In my experience with you, discussion was a barrage of insults and personal attacks from you. So, I can't really credit what you say here.

frank317:


Finally, all u are here talking is not what the op is all about

PastorAIO:


You may find my words insulting but I think that they are just facts about you.

Sometimes the truth can be so hurtful.

PastorAIO:


I so sorry to bother you with the nonsense of Scientists who have spent their life times studying neurology. I forgot that you by default are of much superior intellect that everybody else. pele, forgive me. Forgive the stupid scientists.

PastorAIO:


You may find my words insulting but I think that they are just facts about you.

Sometimes the truth can be so hurtful.

frank317:


Finally, all u are here talking is not what the op is all about

frank317:


This is exactly what I was talking about... When ur belief is question u rudely beg that one should stop and park on his lane.
Nobody has forced anyone here, I understand why u sound angry though...
If you want athesits to keep quiet, u have to first of all practice the art of keeping quiet. U guys believe it's ur duty to preach to the world, knock on people's door, disturb passengers in the bus, stop passers-by on the road, build churches everywhere, put out ur speakers and disturb people in their homes. now u are asking me to stick to my belief... U are simply begging because u lack the ability to embrace the reality that is facing u.

PastorAIO:


What Truth? What do you have to do with the Truth? Have you any concern with the Truth? Do you intend to contribute any Truth here?

The answer each time is No, No, No, and No.

Furthermore you admit it and are proud of it and declare confidently that you are not here to discuss Truth.




So your modus operandi when you meet such a person that you consider to be an 'anti-christian' is not to discuss the Truth of any matter, but rather to obfuscate and reduce the discussion into a very unmerry-go-round of idiocy and nonsense.
You are a peddler of nonsense and you are proud to declare such as your modus operandi.

PastorAIO:


In your experience. You should ask yourself why it is your experience but hardly the case with anyone else.

frank317:
Sadly I still pity Christians... They are not only slave to their thoughts, but slave to their fake pastor.... And u would wonder why Busola will open her legs to a man of God to molest her even when she didn't like it... Yet people wonder why i pity Christians.