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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 12:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
Utin represented his club in their Europa League game on Friday.
Ebube Duru has completed a move to Enyimba.
Ogunbote has left Rangers for Lobi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 1:22pm On Jul 22, 2019
kellycute:
so you made your assertion based on the 5 naira comments from those 5naira people?. I thought u actually watched the game for you to have made that kinda statement. Abeg make season start before u go conclude. Leave matter for mathia.

You didn't have any source of any kind, on what basis did you disprove my assertion?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:24pm On Jul 22, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Former Nigeria U23 invitee Tosin Kehinde could make his professional debut very soon, allnigeriasoccer.com reports.

The attacking midfielder joined Danish Super Liga side Randers on a season-long loan earlier this month, and manager Thomas Thomasberg has given an indication that he's part of his plans after naming him on the roster for the first two matches of the new season.

Kehinde was a non-playing substitute against SönderjyskE (July 14) and Brondby (July 21)

The 21-year-old departed Manchester United in the summer of 2018 as he feared he may not play for the first team, but his situation did not change when he joined CD Feirense as he ended up playing for their U23 team last season.

Signed to bolster Randers attack, Kehinde is competing with Hammershøj-Mistrati, Kallesøe and Marvin Egho for one of the spots in the starting line-up.

Ahead of a potential debut in the coming weeks, he could feature for Randers reserve team when they tackle
Brabrand on Monday afternoon.

I made comments about this quite some time ago and as usual there were some that called it HATE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:34pm On Jul 22, 2019
DrLikita12:
Utin represented his club in their Europa League game on Friday.
Ebube Duru has completed a move to Enyimba.
Ogunbote has left Rangers for Lobi

Wow this is nice, i hope he get a move to a better league soon

His fellow former npfl guy ozonwafor really tried for him to join gala

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:36pm On Jul 22, 2019
komekn:


I made comments about this quite some time ago and as usual there were some that called it HATE.
grin who'd think you are HATING on your borough boys?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:38pm On Jul 22, 2019
andrew444:


Wow this is nice, i hope he get a move to a better league soon

His fellow former npfl guy ozonwafor really tried for him to join gala
Fear (apart from age grin) is that the lad may not develop at all enough to be in SE

But its great stuff that those two guys went from NPFL to starting 11s. Something some people never let us hear word on before

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 1:40pm On Jul 22, 2019
ChrisKels:


And u are gonna compare the Gabonese stars of 2010-2013 to these craps that make up the Taifa stars?

Fabrice Do marcolino 20goals for Angers ligue1

Moise Apanga ligue1

Andre Poko - Bordeaux ligue1

Levy Madinda - Celta Vigo laliga

Junior Ndong - Auxerre ligue1

Eric Mouloungui - Nice ligue1

Daniel Cousin who once scored 26 goals for Lens in the ligue1

Aubemyang the best striker in the ligue1 - Ettienne

Lyod Palun - Nice ligue1

Stephane Nguema who was a forward for PSG a season before that tourney, he also was a former Rennes striker

Ecuele Manga one of the best Centre Backs in the ligue1 from 2010-14

Ekwa Ebanega - Auxerre ligue1

In Didier Ovono, they had one of the best goalkeepers in Africa then and also like many of his teams mates was plying his trade in the ligue1


So bro what took Gabon that far was individual brilliance and sheer luck bkus the squad oozed class (experienced quality players) playing at the highest level, it has little or nothing to do with Rohr's tactical prowess. In fact it was Rohr's tactical ineptitude that denied them a place in the Semis. Compare this squad to Tanzania who can only boast of Sammata in the Belgian league, then u will understand Rohr didnt do anything remarkable. In 19 games with these names in the team, Rohr could only win a paltry 8

And to that guy shouting that they beat Morroco, it was Chamakk's Morroco not Ziyech's. That Morrocan side was so poor, and player for player, they were no match for Gabon bkus Gabon paraded far better players individually. And they were not the Madagasis of 2012 thats so wrong bkus they had players, Madagascar doesn't. In fact some of our starters this year couldn't have started for that Gabonese side, at least I know that no reasonable coach would bench Auba for Ighalo or Manga of 2012 for Ekong of today grin


the Moroccan team had Chamakk, adel Taarbat, and much younger Nordin Amrabat, Benatia, Belhanda, Boussofa and El Amadi who are all still very much part of Morocco's team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:53pm On Jul 22, 2019
Odunayaw:
Fear (apart from age grin) is that the lad may not develop at all enough to be in SE

But its great stuff that those two guys went from NPFL to starting 11s. Something some people never let us hear word on before

Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:04pm On Jul 22, 2019
Rohr himself has told close associates that he is uncertain if he wants to carry on.

"A lot of things have been going on but he has taken it all because he does not want to cause any controversy," sources have told ESPN.

"But now, he is not sure if he will continue."

Rohr was noncommittal when asked if he would continue, simply telling ESPN with a wry smile: "I go away to rest now, and then we think about it and see what happens.

"I have a clause in my contract, I made sure I put it there, that it is possible I go any time if we agree."

Rohr is due to meet Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) president Amaju Pinnick this week as part of that assessment. And if both parties come to an agreement, a parting of ways might come sooner than most expect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:07pm On Jul 22, 2019
jihday:
Rohr himself has told close associates that he is uncertain if he wants to carry on.

"A lot of things have been going on but he has taken it all because he does not want to cause any controversy," sources have told ESPN.

"But now, he is not sure if he will continue."

Rohr was noncommittal when asked if he would continue, simply telling ESPN with a wry smile: "I go away to rest now, and then we think about it and see what happens.

"I have a clause in my contract, I made sure I put it there, that it is possible I go any time if we agree."

Rohr is due to meet Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) president Amaju Pinnick this week as part of that assessment. And if both parties come to an agreement, a parting of ways might come sooner than most expect
source https://africa.espn.com/football/club/nigeria/657/blog/post/3904414/rohr-debate-misses-the-point-about-nigerian-shortcomings?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:12pm On Jul 22, 2019
Olulong:



the Moroccan team had Chamakk, adel Taarbat, and much younger Nordin Amrabat, Benatia, Belhanda, Boussofa and El Amadi who are all still very much part of Morocco's team.

Chamak of Arsenal was crap, bousoufa of Anzhi was crap, Taarabt the black sheep that just came back from a self imposed international exile to flop in the Afcon, that finally ended his international career? El Ahmadi of Feyenoord? grin

Bros u just reeled out names without considering their form and status prior that tourney.


Morroco had nothing on Gabon in 2012 QED

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:23pm On Jul 22, 2019
For a record eighth time in their history, Nigeria came away from an African Nations Cup campaign brandishing bronze medals around their necks.


It is not just a record for Nigeria, but also for the tournament. No other country has more third-place finishes in the history of the competition.

When in the past this final podium place has been celebrated as a "golden bronze", this time emotions have been more varied. Nations Cup winner Segun Odegbami vehemently refused to celebrate it.

There are those, like Odegbami, who feel the Super Eagles should have done better than bronze with the quality of talent at their disposal, believing the team was held back by a conservative coach. Then there are those who argue the coach can do only so much given the broken structures in the country.

There is no "one size fits all" solution, but should Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr's position be the major issue of concern?

Calls for the German to be sacked have not exactly been muted. The major reason seems to be his perceived "lack of tactical nous" or, in other words, an "inability to read matches".

The argument here lies in an unfavourable comparison with the late Stephen Keshi, who is said to have led a more limited Super Eagles squad to the Africa Cup of Nations title in 2013.

That comparison loses some steam in the face of context. Keshi had an almost ready-made squad with just a few additions to be made. Rohr has had to build his squad from the ground up.

Keshi's knockout stage opposition in 2013 was Ivory Coast, Mali and Burkina Faso. Rohr had to battle against Cameroon, South Africa and Algeria. The Fennecs, who were described as "deserved Afcon champions" by Nick Ames reporting for ESPN, were taken within seconds of extra-time by the 2019 Super Eagles.

How Algeria's defence made the difference in AFCON final

How Algeria's defence made the difference in AFCON final
While the African Cup of Nations final may have been tough to watch, Steve Nicol says Algeria's defence deserves a lot of credit for their victory.

All of these considerations might explain why Rohr himself has told close associates that he is uncertain if he wants to carry on.

"A lot of things have been going on but he has taken it all because he does not want to cause any controversy," sources have told ESPN.

"But now, he is not sure if he will continue."

Rohr was noncommittal when asked if he would continue, simply telling ESPN with a wry smile: "I go away to rest now, and then we think about it and see what happens.

"I have a clause in my contract, I made sure I put it there, that it is possible I go any time if we agree."

Rohr is due to meet Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) president Amaju Pinnick this week as part of that assessment. And if both parties come to an agreement, a parting of ways might come sooner than most expect.

If that were to happen, there will be many who will celebrate. But that would mean losing sight of what should be the more important conversation, one which should go beyond Keshi, Rohr or any other coach.


No team has more Africa Cup of Nations bronze medals than Nigeria's Super Eagles.
GIUSEPPE CACACE/AFP/Getty Images
Nigeria have had six coaching changes in the past five years. Samson Siasia, Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Siasia again in a stand-in capacity, Salisu Yusuf (also in a temporary capacity) and then Rohr.

Oliseh aside -- he resigned due to issues with the NFF -- the rest have been fired. And the same story goes back even further.

Clemens Westerhof, now acknowledged as one of Nigeria's greatest coaches, was hounded out and did not even bother to return home with the team after they were eliminated from the 1994 World Cup. His former assistant, Jo Bonfrere, who won the 1996 Olympic gold medal with the under-23 team, was fired as Super Eagles coach. Philippe Troussier was fired. Amodu Shaibu was fired multiple times, despite qualifying Nigeria for two World Cups. Christian Chukwu was fired. Austin Eguavoen was replaced by Berti Vogts, who ended up being hounded out. Same with Swede Lars Lagerback, who opted not to renew his contract with the NFF after the 2010 World Cup. It is a long, unending cycle of celebrating new appointments, then bemoaning their (in)competence before sending them on their merry way.

This unending coaching merry-go-round seems to mask -- however unintentionally -- the real issue. That the complete grassroots development of Nigerian football has been, and continues to be, totally ignored. There are no articulated programs to scout, identify, develop and train talent from a young age. No structured tournaments for children to take part in. No playing philosophy, nothing beyond a hit-and-miss approach relying on an entitled "we have abundant talents" narrative. It's an approach that relies on said talents flocking off to Europe before being called into the Super Eagles, or, even worse, the cadet teams.

The domestic league, which should provide a conveyor belt of ready-made talent, is running on life support, as club administrators push back against much-needed reforms.

As it stands, two influential players retired after Afcon: Captain John Obi Mikel and forward Odion Ighalo; John Ogu may have been a bit part player, but he is also almost certainly looking at the door.

Goalkeeping remains a major issue. Nigeria have struggled in that department since the departure of Vincent Enyeama. Francis Uzoho showed some stability at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, but was shaky after. Ikechukwu Ezenwa is in his 30s, and rarely gets playing time in the Nigerian domestic league, and Daniel Akpeyi does not inspire confidence among the fans. Some say even among the coaches.

Nigeria can sack Rohr now or hound him out. But precedent has shown they are unable to attract any real big-name coaches. The ones they do attract, they take months just to hire. When a coach is eventually hired, whoever he is, what is the guarantee he will spend more than two or three years before being hounded out like others before?

And after poppling around in a fresh hire-celebrate-hound-fire cycle, the country returns once again to blaming the coach for another campaign that fails to meet entitled expectations, expectations without a grounding in fundamentals.

Rather than debating whether or not to fire a coach who has done more than most since Westerhof in 1989 to reboot the national team, conversation should be focused instead in a different direction.

How to reset the entire national football ecosystem in a manner that begins to produce and develop talent deliberately and consistently, one that will eventually lead to a playing philosophy that takes advantage of the in-bred self-expression of the Nigerian footballer as well as their natural physical attributes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 2:25pm On Jul 22, 2019
Odunayaw:
grin who'd think you are HATING on your borough boys?

Yea I wanted to ask the same question but I think he may have looked at it from a other standpoint
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:36pm On Jul 22, 2019
ChrisKels:


Chamak of Arsenal was crap, bousoufa of Anzhi was crap, Taarabt the black sheep that just came back from a self imposed international exile to flop in the Afcon, that finally ended his international career? El Ahmadi of Feyenoord? grin

Bros u just reeled out names without considering their form and status prior that tourney.


Morroco had nothing on Gabon in 2012 QED
never seen a tourney where Gabon will be rated ahead or Morocco tho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:51pm On Jul 22, 2019
jihday:
never seen a tourney where Gabon will be rated ahead or Morocco tho

Ok I hear u

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:22pm On Jul 22, 2019
jihday:
never seen a tourney where Gabon will be rated ahead or Morocco tho

Lol

I just dey look the guy since ,i no wan just talk

He is just trying to justify wrong thing,maybe because he dont like rohr , na him sabi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:34pm On Jul 22, 2019
ChrisKels:


And u are gonna compare the Gabonese stars of 2010-2013 to these craps that make up the Taifa stars?

Fabrice Do marcolino 20goals for Angers ligue1

Moise Apanga ligue1

Andre Poko - Bordeaux ligue1

Levy Madinda - Celta Vigo laliga

Junior Ndong - Auxerre ligue1

Eric Mouloungui - Nice ligue1

Daniel Cousin who once scored 26 goals for Lens in the ligue1

Aubemyang the best striker in the ligue1 - Ettienne

Lyod Palun - Nice ligue1

Stephane Nguema who was a forward for PSG a season before that tourney, he also was a former Rennes striker

Ecuele Manga one of the best Centre Backs in the ligue1 from 2010-14

Ekwa Ebanega - Auxerre ligue1

In Didier Ovono, they had one of the best goalkeepers in Africa then and also like many of his teams mates was plying his trade in the ligue1


So bro what took Gabon that far was individual brilliance and sheer luck bkus the squad oozed class (experienced quality players) playing at the highest level, it has little or nothing to do with Rohr's tactical prowess. In fact it was Rohr's tactical ineptitude that denied them a place in the Semis. Compare this squad to Tanzania who can only boast of Sammata in the Belgian league, then u will understand Rohr didnt do anything remarkable. In 19 games with these names in the team, Rohr could only win a paltry 8

And to that guy shouting that they beat Morroco, it was Chamakk's Morroco not Ziyech's. That Morrocan side was so poor, and player for player, they were no match for Gabon bkus Gabon paraded far better players individually. And they were not the Madagasis of 2012 thats so wrong bkus they had players, Madagascar doesn't. In fact some of our starters this year couldn't have started for that Gabonese side, at least I know that no reasonable coach would bench Auba for Ighalo or Manga of 2012 for Ekong of today grin


Fabrice Do marcolino never played in Ligue 1. He scored only 1 goal in Ligue 2 prior to the AFCON.

Moïse Brou Apanga didn't play a single match in Ligue 1 prior to the AFCON.

Levy Madinda played only one match prior to the AFCON and Celta Vigo was in La Liga 2.

Junior Ndong never played a single professional match.

Stéphane N'Guéma didn't play a single Ligue 1 game for 6 seasons prior to the AFCON.

Daniel Cousin didn't play a single match that season.

Aubemyang was an average player prior to the AFCON. He scored 6 goals prior to the AFCON.

Lyod Palun was a bench warmer prior to the AFCON.

This is contrary to your false claims, Rohr's Gabonese team were average players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 3:40pm On Jul 22, 2019
Morrocco is courting Gernot Rohr

If I hadn't known better would I would wish him to go so some fools could search across Africa for someone who can keep 30 rich egos on their toes for 3 years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 3:44pm On Jul 22, 2019
Sportilitica:
Who are these ones
u-17
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:51pm On Jul 22, 2019
andrew444:


Lol

I just dey look the guy since ,i no wan just talk

He is just trying to justify wrong thing,maybe because he dont like rohr , na him sabi
yh, he doesn't like him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 3:51pm On Jul 22, 2019
Please guys, is it true that the training Rohr will be going for in Germany will cost the Nff $1million??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
Lol

I just read a news that morocco national team want rohr to replace outgoing renard as their coach

If this news is true, this life is that you dont know what you have untill you loose it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
Gernot Rohr: Super Eagles top stars urge German boss not to dump Nigeria Read more: https://www.legit.ng/1250206-gernot-rohr-super-eagles-top-stars-urge-german-boss-dump-nigeria.html
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
Morocco: Afcon 2019 Fallout - Morocco, Three Other Countries Want to Hire Rohr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:56pm On Jul 22, 2019
exactly my brother. you don'tvalue what you have until you lose it. it seem the man wants to leave and there is rumors of him not on the same page with pinnick anymore
andrew444:
Lol

I just read a news that morocco national team want rohr to replace outgoing renard as their coach

If this news is true, this life is that you dont know what you have untill you loose it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:01pm On Jul 22, 2019
charlesemeka85:
exactly my brother. you don'tvalue what you have until you lose it. it seem the man wants to leave and there is rumors of him not on the same page with pinnick anymore

Even if super eagles employ another coach dem go still complain

I remember france people calling for the sack of dider deschamps during the 2014 world cup saying he is too defensive, but he ended up in the euros final 2 years later and ended up winning the 2018 world cup, if they had sack deschamps they might not have won the world cup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:10pm On Jul 22, 2019
ChrisKels:


Our league? Gala does not play in the NPFL. It is a Turkish giant located in the beautiful city of instanbul not Lagos

Is he not from NPFL?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:21pm On Jul 22, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Odegbami: I Cannot, And Shall Not, Celebrate This Bronze medal.

We can have a few other things to celebrate, surely, out of Egypt, but please, I beg, and I repeat, I beg, not for the reason adduced by the NFF and Gernot Rohr that the German coach and the team achieved the goals of Third-place set for them. No, please!

As a sportsman and an Olympian, one that believes only in celebrating the best that one can be, I shall not celebrate this Bronze Medal. I am sorry folks.

Classic.

Best sports article I have read this year and the last paragraph says it all.


As a sportsman and an Olympian, one that believes only in celebrating the best that one can be, I shall not celebrate this Bronze Medal. I am sorry folks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:28pm On Jul 22, 2019
Earthquake2:
Morrocco is courting Gernot Rohr

If I hadn't known better would I would wish him to go so some fools could search across Africa for someone who can keep 30 rich egos on their toes for 3 years

I hope he doesn't ooo.

I'm a supporter of such good manager albeit with better tactical acumen or a good tactical assistant
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:29pm On Jul 22, 2019
andrew444:
Lol

I just read a news that morocco national team want rohr to replace outgoing renard as their coach

If this news is true, this life is that you dont know what you have untill you loose it

I hope Rohr accepts the job and goes. I doubt he will go.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:31pm On Jul 22, 2019
Triniti:
Please guys, is it true that the training Rohr will be going for in Germany will cost the Nff $1million??

What I hope this is not true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:32pm On Jul 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Classic.

Best sports article I have read this year and the last paragraph says it all.


As a sportsman and an Olympian, one that believes only in celebrating the best that one can be, I shall not celebrate this Bronze Medal. I am sorry folks.

I can understand that he is holding the team to high standards but the fact that we came from two consecutive non qualifications to bag a bronze medal deserves some accolades. Although, we could have done better

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