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Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by raphy(m): 5:28am On Aug 30, 2019 |
As a diehard Liverpool fan we say congratulations to our player..yes he never walk alone..this one will make him give his very best for the team anytime... |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Neimarjnr: 6:20am On Aug 30, 2019 |
maxwell530: i said world best not ballon d'or |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by coldFLARES1(m): 6:27am On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:. Origi's a part of the team. I like him a lot and is not mindful of the fact that he was the most most vital person that stood up to be counted when Salah, Mane and VVD were unavailable. I'd like to see him more this season. |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by lexy2014: 7:02am On Aug 30, 2019 |
DanXplore: Ur responses are at best ambiguous& very simplistic. "VVD is good but Messi& Ronaldo are better". Is that ur definition of "individual contributions"? "Messi is outstanding". That's very elementary& shallow 4a person who isnt confused when u are comparing one player with another. In simple English, in what way was Messi more outstanding than VVD in d season under review? |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 7:44am On Aug 30, 2019 |
uunwanaobong3:He won the Super Cup against Chelsea too |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 7:47am On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:Old man defending messi,when we messi win a trophy for Argentina? Its not by scoring Pk in barca,where was messi when Liverpool won the Champions league last season |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 7:47am On Aug 30, 2019 |
lexy2014: LMAO, are u indirectly suggesting I illustrate further? To do so, I would need to analyse Messi under the effect of his role on the team, playmaking, goal contributions etc. vis a vis VVD but this in all honesty is not worth my time. Please, enjoy VVD victory while it last. See you in september for FIFA awards and December for the prestigious BDr. 2 Likes |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by lexy2014: 8:08am On Aug 30, 2019 |
DanXplore: I am not "indirectly suggesting" that u illustrate further, am directly saying that u should illustrate further. If analysing Messi and VVDs contributions to their individual teams isn't worthy of ur time, then u saying "VVD is good but Messi & Ronaldo are better", shouldn't have been worthy of ur time except u saying u can't prove what u said. Whether VVD wins or not, doesn't bother me so I don't no d enjoyment u are referring. But if u say d guy doesn't deserve it more than Messi or Ronaldo, then u should b able to explain y. So far, u just couldn't do that |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Adjoyvi9: 9:11am On Aug 30, 2019 |
DanXplore: For Barcelona? And where did it lead them? All this Barcelona fans self, Liverpool no be una mate. |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Adjoyvi9: 9:14am On Aug 30, 2019 |
DanXplore: Even if dembele had scored d fourth goal, Liverpool will still score 5 1 Like |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Adjoyvi9: 9:21am On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real: Salah out classes both Messi and Ronaldo that season, go and check out his goals vs Tottenham, Watford, Southampton, arsenal, Manchester city, Porto etc. He did not win because he didn't win any trophy. He even scored a corner kick for Egypt. He dragged highest goal scorer with Messi and Ronaldo despite taking just one penalty for Liverpool. Remove Messi and Ronaldos pk for that season and see if Salah won't top both of them. |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Dizzyrascal(m): 10:14am On Aug 30, 2019 |
DanXplore:the award is not about who has had a better career. It is about UEFA'S best player of the year. This year UEFA decided Van Dijk should win it. Anybody who does not understand the reason for him winning it this year is not being sincere... |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Jaytecq(m): 10:30am On Aug 30, 2019 |
eskorelvis: some times people like u leave the context and show d level of lack of comprehension. for heaven sake this award is a yearly award no one is talking abt last season on 50 seasons ago. your questions show how shallow u ar in football. so winning a Uefa competition now guarantee u to be Best Player.... laugh. the times Messi and Ronaldo won d Award did dey won d Competition on all d occasion? bro speak with fact not just ur opinion or the way u feel on a Friday morning. learn to stick to context and not show ur ignorance in football. |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Jaytecq(m): 10:45am On Aug 30, 2019 |
Dizzyrascal: i really like how u narrow things down, but please tell me two things y u think VVD merit dis award dan Mane or Allison this season |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 10:55am On Aug 30, 2019 |
Adjoyvi9:Outclassed without winning any trophy!!! See your mouth like outclassed Messi and Ronaldo. And he was outclassed by Ramos right?? Since that is how you want us to define it!!! |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 11:07am On Aug 30, 2019 |
HIGHESTPOPORI:Nobody score 51 PK goals!! And Messi is older than meeee |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 30, 2019 |
EbukaHades10:Goals seal come backs not avoiding dribbling Goals win 97 points, not avoiding dribbling Goals produce 2 EPL golden boot winners, not avoiding dribbling Goals ensure Liverpool made it to the penalty shoot-out of the UEFA super cup despite conceding 2goals, not avoiding dribbling.. VVD, at his best, is the best defender.. He also have other good defenders as partner and have the best goalkeeoer in the World right now, who is always good with/without VVD as evidenced by Copa America win!!! To now put the whole achievement of the club on the guy that was not dribbled just because he was crowned the PFA player... To the extent that what Origi sealed, Arnold created, Mane braced In Super cup etc all becomes individual achievement shows how overhyped the whole setting is!!! VVD take credits for everything down in the team including the attack to the point that, he is being viewed by UEFA as a ayer better than Messi+Ronaldo combined in 2019!!! The points are comic relief!!!
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Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by EbukaHades10(m): 11:31am On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:Dis dribble avoidance u are still jumping on still baffles me. Did he not do his job of defending? Who cares if he got dribbled or not? Did the dribble lead to a goal? |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 30, 2019 |
EbukaHades10:He did his job as a defender, so was Matip and other defenders... In fact, Trent contributed in the attack when it matter most.. For the defending, aerial ability and conduct, VVD deserves to be the best defender in the world !! But the only stats that hype VVD to the level of the best player award, is that dribbling avoidance stat!! Opta brought that stat out just after the UCL final... That is what the media used to campaign for him.. They so much overhype that so as convinced people that he deserves to be the best player despite the fact he plays in an attacking team. A defender may be crowned the best player in an attacking team... 1 in 100 occasions.. Very rare.. . But such player cannot be better than a 50gials+, 20Assists+ kinda player... UEFA best player award should be changed to UCL winner representative award!!! But the truth is, with the way VVD is hyped he will win the Ballon d'or ahead of players who did well in Leagues, domestic Copa, UEFA Nations League and Copa America UEFA has overhyped him further with those points:
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Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Dizzyrascal(m): 12:18pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
MadCow1:can somebody shout hallelujah? H A L L E L U Y A H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen? AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by EbukaHades10(m): 12:24pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:Meaning judging by what u typed, UEFA and Balon d'or awards should be for only players who can score over 30 or 40 goals in a season so it should be for mainly attackers. Copa America is not a European competition FYI. Quagariella that got the highest goal scorer in seria a wasn't nominated but Ronaldo that was fifth was nominated. Is that one too not overhyped |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 12:31pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
EbukaHades10:Are you being theoretical here?? Point of correction, 50goals+, 20 assists+ a season, most MOTM a season !!! Quagrilera example is like comparing a Piatek with Raul! |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by eskorelvis: 1:16pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
Jaytecq: |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Adjoyvi9: 1:23pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real: U are just a bitter and pained Barcelona fan. Liverpool football club is not ur mate any time and day. If you meet them this year again, they will knock u out............ |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by EbukaHades10(m): 1:25pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:The award is given to the best player in his/her domestic league or any UEFA competition and his/her impact on and off the field. U said Vvd shouldn't have gotten it bcus he didn't score up to those goals and assists and I put it to u that Vvd wasn't the top scorer, Ronaldo wasn't top scorer in either Ucl or seria a. |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 1:35pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
EbukaHades10:Nobody expect VVD to score goals. He passed as a defender... But using dribbling avoidance stat to overhype him or to make him look greater than a 50 goals+, 20 assists + player is baffling... Messi has spoiled everyone, that stat does not look new to anyone because he always pull it off every season.. I put it to you that if Harry Kane has the same stat, 50 goals, 20 assist, win the EPL, win the European Golden shoe, win the UCL Golden boot, he will surely clinch the UEFA best award even if his team falter in the UCL semi final... VVD will not even be mentioned close to him because Harry Kane will have his PR team at full stretch... But a man like Messi, always making excellent stats look ordinary!!! . How come Opta did not come up with this "dribbling avoidance" stat from the group stage of the UCL?Offensive players would have pounced on him intentionally for real... They released the overhyped stat after the UCL final.. When someone is shadow marking, how would attackers know that he was on that trend?? Well, VVD will win the Ballon d'or now!!! The overhype is real.. Event: VVD says it is not bad if a female ref officiate the UEFA super cup Media: Wow! What an extraordinary speech. That is why he is the best in the game now Is that not what you call conduct off the field?? Best Player award should be restricted to performance on the field, and not emotionalism!!! |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by OGHENAOGIE(m): 1:43pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:you are just an obsessed messi fan simple... the game is not about attackers alone.... VVD has done well and would still do well this season...you are not intelligent than coaches and journalist who voted for VVD.... u keep repeating without others VVD won't have won nothing... can Messi play alone is it not someone that ll give him a pass to score....a man who best player in England yet u think he is worth to beat a LA liga champion... |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Adjoyvi9: 1:47pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real: U keep shouting dribbling avoidance... The video is on YouTube van dijk bullying all the stars, Ronaldo, Messi, mbappe, neymar, aguero, kante, hazard, Suarez, etc .. Go and watch pained Barcelona fan. :-P:-D:-D |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 1:53pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
OGHENAOGIE:Goals with games! Goal seal a major come-back after Liverpool was down with 3 goals.. Avoidance of dribbling is not responsible for that!!! That match make the difference for Liverpool, without the come back, they would end the season trophyless!!! How VVD become better than Ronaldo+Mane+Salah+Allison combined is very baffling... May be I am obsessed with the POINTS from the "experts".. It is time for a defender to win it, they said... I see a goalkeeper winning the next Ballon d'or because VVD is the man good enough to equal Ronaldo Ballon d'or status in the EPL!!! Nice Points tho! VVD is 6 times better than Mane in 2019!
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Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Nobody: 2:03pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
Adjoyvi9:How can someone that shadow Mark bully stars... . So you are saying that Nicolas Pepe is better than all those stars, that is what make him to be the first player to officially (Gnabry, Silva, did that in the UNL tho) dribble him... Why did they hid this overhyped stat until the end of the UCL.. All Stats are always in full view.. Especially attackers and midfielder stats.. There is a lot of competition among them.. That is why you see strikers stretching themselves to overtake another player.. If normally they should just score 1 goal, they might have to stretch themselves to score 2 more just to compete with other guys. They play beyond their normal jobs... They play to defend their stats.. Why was VVD dribbling avoidance stat hidden till the end of a season.. If they brought it out from the group stage, I am sure it will be long destroyed. It is a meaningless stat for a defender!! Especially the one that love calling other defenders to mark wheile he shadow marked!! ! That does not take anything from him as the best defender in the world.. . But to be the best player in the world against a 50gials+ 20 assist+ players, it has to be more than Puyol and Sergio Ramos combined level!! It has to be more than a Maldini level It has to be more than Vidic+Terry combined level!!! VVD is the player that break Ronaldo Ballon d'or record in EPL. Wow, he should be the Liverpool GOAT then!!!. Overhyped |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Dizzyrascal(m): 2:18pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
Jaytecq:Ok then, I agree that all the players on the list performed well in their own right, but in any award there can only be one winner. Ask any Liverpool fan about who their choice for the award should be and the result would be unanimous.. Remember that this is not his first award. He cleared the domestic awards in English top flight football for the same period under review. Liverpool let in the least amount of goals in the top flight last year. Two people were responsible for that, the defensive masterclass called Van Dijk and the goal keeping brilliance of Allison. If you take matters again to the public jury as to who was more significant between both the answer would be unanimous. Some years ago, a player like Van Dijk wouldn't even be in the conversation, because he is a defender. If people are upset because a defender won it,then it's time to get used to it because perceptions about their importance has changed. Good defenders are becoming just as expensive as attack minded players.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Van Dijk Beats Messi & CR7 To UEFA Men's Player Of The Year by Dizzyrascal(m): 2:57pm On Aug 30, 2019 |
eni4real:whatever level Van Dijk reached it, was enough to give him the award. History can judge the rest.... |
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