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Wilej:
Thank you Adjo10 for all the useful information you've shared. I have a few questions:

1. How long did it take for you to get your passport after 1yr residency? I'm trying to get an idea of how long the paperwork takes.

2. Are there professional immigration experts in Brazil that can help speed up the process?

3. If one is coming to Brazil for 3 or 4 months, how much do you think they'll need to survive in a city like sao Paulo (accommodation and hospital bills not included)

4. Asides from this forum, where can one find Nigerians living legitimately in Brazil to with?

5. If you're well educated, know basic Portuguese and have permanent residency, how easy or difficult will it be to get a good job as a black African?

suxes2005:
Thanks for this update.

Since the embassy is reading this and they know that Nigerians are
trying to give birth in Brazil.

They should simply introduce Health Tourism or Birth Visa, so we can
apply for such easily - and we will not have to try get a tourist visa for
child birth purpose only.

And then, they can make something like a law stating we MUST use a
private hospital and all BILLS must be paid before the child can get the
passport or before the parents can get their PR.

I am sure the embassy will work something good out, soon.

SHALOM

afelouz:
A quick update.

I just submitted my brazilian visa application at the lagos embassy and here is my observations.

They are aware that Nigerians use that visa for child birth and its true that they can call you for interview and ask for pregnancy test. They will ask if you are pregnant despite seeing you not pregnant physically then minute somethings on the form which I didn’t see clearly.

I notice that the average women who submitted were lowkey pregnant and yet nobody is posting anything here.

Lastly, I think they know about this thread.
I cant even write somethings here.

I don’t know why Nigerian wont just go and use private hospital and atleast pay the bills.

If I receive any mail, I will update
Its well.

Adjo10:
If you wait and apply for the visa after your pregnancy is showing and then appear at the Consulate, then it is obvious that you are not going for tourism at that stage and your visa will be denied not because you are pregnant but because your real purpose of the visit could not be established by the VO.

If you are pregnant and not yet showing then you are good to go because pregnant women in their early stages are allowed to travel safely for tourism or whatever reason.

This is the difference. Some people apply for Brazilian visas late in pregnancy maybe because they did not know about this opportunity and some because Brazil is their last choice. I would say, if you want to give birth in Brazil, let it be your first choice. Brazil is the only country in the world that will make the entire family benefit from a child being born there. Why don’t you secure your entire family’s future first and then think of giving birth in the USA or Canada with your next child? After all, the Brazilian passport is as powerful as the American one.

You give birth in the US and then later denied tourist visa meaning you cannot even visit the country with your own American baby. That passport will be useless until your child turns 18 and can settle in the US alone.

I’m not saying don’t give birth in the US, all I’m saying is that set your priorities right. First things first. Now that my entire family is getting a Brazilian passport, my next child can safely be born in the US. With my Brazilian passport, i have a 95% of securing a US visa. Even if I’m refused, my child will still be Brazilian. Don’t follow the crowd.

I can even give birth in Chile without a visa on my current Brazilian PR or Passport and my baby becomes Chilean. A Chilean passport takes you to US, Canada and Australia visa free.

Your choices becomes endless with giving birth in Brazil. Be smart.

Cheers

Icesnow:
Can you visit Chile Visa free with Brazil PR? Also, I think there's a clause in dat Chile citizenship by birth. You have to be a resident if you are a foreigner for your child to qualify for the citizenship by birth. Can you throw more light on this ma?

Adjo10:
Icesnow you are right. I even mentioned it here previously that one parent has to be a resident at the time of birth. It is however easy to be a resident. Just attending a private language school entitles you to resident permit or visa.

If you use the land borders, then yes you can use your Brazilian PR to enter Chile. In fact, you can almost always just walk across the land borders in South America legally.

Unfortunately, i cannot give you any further info on this as i have never given birth in Chile before. I have not even been there before.
Thanks

Bimtonex:
Could you please help with such organisations if you won't mind please?

Adjo10:
Icesnow you are right. I even mentioned it here previously that one parent has to be a resident at the time of birth. It is however easy to be a resident. Just attending a private language school entitles you to resident permit or visa.

If you use the land borders, then yes you can use your Brazilian PR to enter Chile. In fact, you can almost always just walk across the land borders in South America legally.

Unfortunately, i cannot give you any further info on this as i have never given birth in Chile before. I have not even been there before.
Thanks

Adjo10:
Sorry if I always refers to the US and Europe. Those are the only 2 places i have lived for most of my life. I know their systems like the back of my hands. You make money in those countries and all goes on bills. You and your children are treated like 3rd class. Especially in Europe. Families are emotionally suffering but they will never tell you.

I know friends whose children were born in the US citizenship yet the parents are living in the country illegally and are being deported and separated from their children. Is that one too a country?

Experience how you are treated with your children in Brazil and you will realize that emotional peace is better than making money.

Brazil has won our hearts. If you only are looking for money, then maybe Brazil is not for you but if you are looking for a decent family life with full of happiness then come to Brazil.

Adjo10:
Hey afelouz. Thanks for the information. It is really sad that people are reading this thread and applying but not giving any updates.

Thanks for the update. Cheers

Adjo10:
Hello Wilej.

Q1. 3 to 6 months after submitting the required documents (i have heard of people who received it earlier than 3 months and some more than 6 months)

Q2. Yes. They can help you gather the necessary documents and application but their job ends once you submit the application with the immigration office. No one can influence how fast or slow your application is processed by the Policia Federal. Even a Brazilian President will be put to jail for trying to influence the process lol

Q3.(accommodation and hospital bills not included) 150-200 USD per person should be fine.

Q4. There are good Nigerians in Brazil, but Sorry, i don't hang with my fellow Nigerians here. When you come, you will understand.

Q5. If you meet the requirements for the job you should able to get it without any discrimination. Brazil has more Blacks than any African country except Nigeria. More blacks than any country in the world. More than half the Brazilian population are from black decent. Being black here is no problem.

Cheers

Adjo10:
For those interested in having a visualization of what Brazil looks like. A short 5 minute high definition video of 5 cities in Brazil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjwHao9R-0

Enjoy...

Adjo10:
Hello Wilej.

Q1. 3 to 6 months after submitting the required documents (i have heard of people who received it earlier than 3 months and some more than 6 months)

Q2. Yes. They can help you gather the necessary documents and application but their job ends once you submit the application with the immigration office. No one can influence how fast or slow your application is processed by the Policia Federal. Even a Brazilian President will be put to jail for trying to influence the process lol

Q3.(accommodation and hospital bills not included) 150-200 USD per person should be fine.

Q4. There are good Nigerians in Brazil, but Sorry, i don't hang with my fellow Nigerians here. When you come, you will understand.

Q5. If you meet the requirements for the job you should able to get it without any discrimination. Brazil has more Blacks than any African country except Nigeria. More blacks than any country in the world. More than half the Brazilian population are from black decent. Being black here is no problem.

Cheers

justwise:
Like i said before..the door will be slammed on free ride health tourism very soon, this is common sense, no country in the world creates a system whereby the rest of the world can come in and benefit without contributing a penny.

Nigerians/Africans can abuse any system to a point that even the blind can see and smell it.

Years ago SA welcome Nigerians and today they are killing us and sending us back to Nigeria.

Shallypop:
If Brazil isn't giving Visa, why not look at Chile. Don't go using public hospitals oo. Passport is even Visa free to US, Canada and Australia.

Shallypop:
If Brazil isn't giving Visa, why not look at Chile. Don't go using public hospitals oo. Passport is even Visa free to US, Canada and Australia.

Icesnow:
Can you visit Chile Visa free with Brazil PR? Also, I think there's a clause in dat Chile citizenship by birth. You have to be a resident if you are a foreigner for your child to qualify for the citizenship by birth. Can you throw more light on this ma?

Samuelsoma:
The Brazilian PR gives access to visit many of the Mercosul countries and Chile is one of them. Also, for your child to be a citizen of Chile, one of the parents must be a resident of Chile and Chile has flexible plans for you to obtain residency within a short period. Argentina also offers citizenship by birth to a child of foreign parents and the parents can as well obtain PR after the birth of their baby in Argentina.

swifteddy:
Good day to you all.please am new here.please I would like to ask,though on their website it states personal statement of account.should I assume that is required for some one who is under an employer.what if am the employer with a business name account statement (sole proprietorship) and company registration documents,cant both my business name account be used to sponsor my trip with my wife.Though my wife is an employee for another company of which she can use her salary account.But what about me as I don't have personal account.the business name account is my personal account.please I need everyone opinion.thanks

swifteddy:
Good day to you all.please am new here.please I would like to ask,though on their website it states personal statement of account.should I assume that is required for some one who is under an employer.what if am the employer with a business name account statement (sole proprietorship) and company registration documents,cant both my business name account be used to sponsor my trip with my wife.Though my wife is an employee for another company of which she can use her salary account.But what about me as I don't have personal account.the business name account is my personal account.please I need everyone opinion.thanks

Adjo10:
Sorry if I always refers to the US and Europe. Those are the only 2 places i have lived for most of my life. I know their systems like the back of my hands. You make money in those countries and all goes on bills. You and your children are treated like 3rd class. Especially in Europe. Families are emotionally suffering but they will never tell you.

I know friends whose children were born in the US citizenship yet the parents are living in the country illegally and are being deported and separated from their children. Is that one too a country?

Experience how you are treated with your children in Brazil and you will realize that emotional peace is better than making money.

Brazil has won our hearts. If you only are looking for money, then maybe Brazil is not for you but if you are looking for a decent family life with full of happiness then come to Brazil.

Adjo10:
Hello swiftedd. I think you will have a lot of explanations and convince to do. The truth is that they don’t trust us and in my opinion they have every reason not to. Creating a doubt in your application will not be good especially that “Personal bank account” has been put in bold on the the consulate’s website.

You can contact the consulate and ask them about it. Only them can give you a definite answer in this case. I will however suggest you get a personal bank account if you intend to travel anywhere in the future. Or better still, a joint account with your wife.

My opinion.

Cheers

inno4u:
Your company account can suffix in place of Personal Account, but it would have been better if you submit both personal and company statement of account.
Gurus in the house can add to this.

swifteddy:
I think I will try combining both.though the personal account doesn't have traffic of upto 6months.I will try and also attach that of my wife as well for herself to cover.since hers is savings and has a lot of traffic.thanks alot for the input

PastorMikenwab:
Adjo10, thanks for helping people out here, thanks for your invaluable time. Please, I want to know about Curitiba and Florinapolis, which is better compare to Sao Paulo? For a Nigerian who desires safety, low cost and integration.